All Elite Wrestling Discussion Thread

"Dark EPISODE 4: PITTSBURGH, PA"



Peter Avalon is just not doing very well with this Librarian gimmick, it isn't like he isn't entertaining. I use to watch the guy on Championship Wrestling for Hollywood when he use to tag team with Ray Rosas. My main objective in the woman's fatal four way was to see how good Sadie Gibbs is. I'd have to say the jury is still out, I need to see another match with her in it. Then the main event was just okay. Sometimes the main events are really good on AEW Dark but it never changed my tone of emotion. I never got locked into the match but there was a fun finish. Show Grade: 55 out of 100 I will have to record AEW Dynamite again this week due to Game 7 of the World Series.

AEW Dynamite 10/30/19

There was some gimmick entrances this episode due to it being Halloween week. So there was gimmick match that I wasn't really into. But I loved to see my girl Hikuru Shida back in action. We had a lot of typical American Pro Wrestling TV angles. Contract Signings, random beatdowns all over the arena. But the main point of the show was to crown the first ever AEW Tag Team Champions.



Show Grade: 72 out of 100

AEW Dark Episode 5 - Charleston, WV



Well we got another comedy match in AEW Dark, at least it is what it should be. We got some more Sadie Gibbs and slowly I'm very much increasing my interest in her. The Woman's tag match made up for the gimmick match, could of gone a bit too long though. Sadly the main event we had to deal with more Marko Stunt. My least favorite on the roster. MJF being on announce team though this episode deserves some points as well.
So I'm going to with a Show Score: 55 out of 100. Which is the same as last week.

AEW Dynamite 11/06/19

Besides the squash match with Spears vs Cutter. All these matches were at the quality you'd want for the main show. Then my mind is so blown with how amazing their controlled chaos was at the end of the show. This was a true go home show for the PPV this weekend. It builds on a lot of matches on the card and I am all too hyped for this event now. I can't believe I'm doing this but I believe this Dynamite was slightly better Power Struggle for New Japan.


Show Grade: 83 out of 100

AEW Dark Episode 6 - Charlotte, NC



I was a bit caught off guard with this airing on Friday but with the PPV coming up I guess it would be a bit weird to have matches that are Pre-PPV going on Tuesday. I see my girl Hikaru Shida in the thumbnail. That already put this episode in a upward direction. I got a bit disengaged during the woman's tag match but the Trios Match at the end of the show had some top talent in there. This is the 2nd time they've don a Trios of Kip Sabian and Evans&Angelico. Are the teasing a 3-man tag title eventually? They are allied with AAA. Show Score: 60 out of 100

AEW: Full Gear 11/9/19

Starting off with the Young Bucks, it is a common play card for AEW and it worked out again. They do need to be careful with this ramp, someone lands bad on their back they will take a major spine injury. We've seen enough of them in past decades.


I was so into the last match that I found my attention drifting a bit for Page vs PAC. That was just a me thing, nothing wrong with the match. The only thing that would of made this match better if it was an epic 30+ main event. I do notice a lot of discussion with the commentary over these rankings that were released recently. TNA use to have Power Rankings but eventually they got lazy with it. Will see how AEW handle them.

I am a bit disappointed that Shaun Spears didn't come out with his white eyes. I felt that could of been a great PPV look for him. On the other side Joey Janela is just so crazy, we keep seeing spots that I haven't seen in my life. But from a story line perspective. You see the beer belly on Janela. You can see why Spears wouldn't take him seriously or many people be willing to.

Triple Threat Tag Team matches always have a higher probability of going wrong and the early portions of this match were pretty solid but there was a point of the match where I forgot who the legal men were and that simple cannot happen.

Now I always expected this to be the least anticipated match on the card. Which I don't mind because it is nice to have a bit of a cool down before the two major matches on the card.

Cody vs Jericho isn't the Main Event? That is surprising, it is the world title you know. Well these are the two matches we bought the card for and the highest weight for the overall score.

If you were going to have a hardcore match end the PPV. This had the level of brutality for that and they did some spots that you don't normally see, which we've gotten accustomed to in other hardcore matches

Match of the Night: Cody vs Chris Jericho
Show Score: 87 out of 100

So I do want to mention that my scores will verify between PPVS and TV. They are on different rating scales. The TV is there to help build towards the PPV, thus the PPV will be looked upon more harshly. But this show didn't have to worry about that as the last two matches fit the billing. I still don't know how I feel about Jericho vs Cody. I could give it a 5 star match but I do have some things holding me back on it. It is something I need to think about.

AEW Dynamite 11/13/19

Between the squash matches and the amount of commercial breaks this episode was the most disappointing experience. AEW have crossed one of my big pet peeves and are skipping entrance music and doing these side-by-side commercial breaks. Does that mean we get to watch the PAC and Hangman match without commercial break? NOPE. Does that mean we get to watch the Main Event without commercial breaks? NOPE. Then they even did one during the backstage beat down...this is so overboard on the commercials. Then the main event started with only 10 minutes left in the show as well. No benefits and only frustrations. It puts me in a sour mood for your whole show. The only real positive thing was
I'm sorry but I'm giving this show a score of a 47 out of 100

AEW Dark Episode 7 - Nashville, TN



Good first match. Quality Tag Teams will get the job done on keeping you entertained. We keep seeing a lot of Big Swole lately. I'm thinking Tony likes her ring quality but she is still around the bottom of the barrel on the card. Doesn't help she had to go against two of the top woman in the division. Then we got to the main event and we all know that Cima's boys need to get a win but getting one over The Young Bucks is a tall order kayfabe and believability. So it was a main event where there wasn't any doubt ever what the result would be. So I'm really only looking at a Show Score of a 59 out of 100 That being said I might enjoy this more now then the main show with how they are handling their commercial breaks. But obviously the quality isn't as good as the main show most of the time.

AEW Dynamite 11/20/19

I can happily say that the commercials weren't as badly placed as last week but the problem this week was there was too many matches where the endings of the match lacked cohesion and broke immersion. An example would be there was a moment where Private Party and Proud and Powerful where apparently the non-legal man was the one getting pinned. That is at least what Jim Ross said and it looked like a botch with how everyone was reacting. It takes you out of the flow of the match. Seeing a Young Buck in a singles match is odd but the story is Matt's back is hurt again from the beat down he received.


Show Score: 68 out of 100

AEW Dark Episode 8 - Indianapolis, IN



Personally I don't feel Jack Evans and Kenny Omega have the best chemistry. I could never really get into their match and there never seemed to be a direction they were trying to take the match. It felt like a jigsaw puzzle where the pieces just doesn't fit. On the other hand Trent vs Pentagon Jr was a great match. Something that could of been on the main show. [spoiler]Big Swole had a big mess-up at the end of her match as well which soured the match as well. [spoiler] So overall I felt this week wasn't the best and only can give it a Show Score: 56 out of 100

AEW Dark Episode 09 - Chicago, IL



Compared to MJF and Shawn Spears. Nyla Rose was quite poor on commentary. I don't feel she was adding much to experience. As for the matches, I felt the first match was actually the best and there was a nice little story after it. Nothing really stood out this week on AEW Dark. So I'll have to say it was a Show Score: 50 out of 100 There was one average match and two below average.

AEW Dynamite 12/4/19

Well I very much enjoyed the first hour much more than the second hour. I just felt the quality of matches were much superior than what we got during the second hour. Minus Nyla Rose being in a squash match. Its December and were still having Nyla in squash matches, not very interesting. Once again though we had 10 minutes of TV Time left for the main event and THEY STILL had to do a commercial break. Can we at least have a main event without an interruption? Then we has more information on Awesome Kong and Brandi Rhodes and their gimmick is just so similar to Dark Order its not very appealing. I've never been too big into the Dark Order to begin with but I was fine with them getting more backstory but to have two groups of cults where they are asking people to pledge to them...is a bit much. Then we also have the Blade, The Bunny, and the Butcher. Are we back in Halloween? I'm starting worry about the lack of variety in AEW. All these new things are starting to mesh together. So even though the match quality was good as always, everything else drags it down to a Show Score of 62 out of 100. This is the first time I'm feeling 2009-2012 TNA with some of the new developments in AEW.

AEW Dark Episode 10 - Champaign, IL



The matches felt much shorter this week or there was just so much in-between that it made them feel shorter. The first match was decent thanks to Scropio Sky. Then the tag match was a complete throw away. We had no woman's match this week which is a shame. We ended with Kenny Omega in the main event but having a 30+ minute break between match 2 and 3 for so much review is quite ridiculous. Of course I ended up just skipping over most of it, the only thing I watched was to get Big Swole's backstory. Show Score: 57 out of 100

AEW Dark Episode 11 - Garland, TX



Well this was one of the better Darks in awhile. We had two tag team matches where for the most part had real tag teams. Pac and Hybrid 2 would be the only mish-mash team. Both matches were rather satisfying for the in-ring quality. But the best part of the episode was the woman's matches as these were a preview of what are going to see today on Dynamite with the No1 and No2 in rankings both getting a tune-up match before their No1 Contender Match. I can't remember the last Dark where I felt a good amount of purpose was shown for what is happening. That leaves me with a Show Score: 65 out of 100, which is the highest I've given to a Dark on this thread. Sadly with having 3 creepy factions on the roster...I don't know if Dynamite will follow-up will a high score today.

AEW: Revolution 2/29/20

I was watching the show with my brother last night so I wasn't taking notes like I usual would watching alone. Thus is why I'm writing this the day after.

Dustin Rhodes vs Jake Hager

This was pretty weird of a match to start off the show. It was a slower paced match with two taller wrestlers. Jake Hager felt like a MMA fighter in a wrestling ring, which is what they want but it doesn't lead to anything special. Not to mention submissions moves just don't feel the same as they do in New Japan. Not as much emotion. So for me it was just an average match.


Darby Allin vs Sammy Guevara

This is the match that we thought would start the night. Darby had a big scare when his foot caught the bottom rope when he was doing a suicide dive. Besides the table spot I don't really remember much of the match the day after...I guess that is a bad thing. But it wasn't like this match wasn't entertaining.

Kenny Omega and Adam Page(c) vs The Young Bucks

Hand down match of the night. This wasn't as good as The Young Bucks vs Kota/Omega back in 2018 but it is damn well close. I have been struggling if I want to give this a 5-star or not. I felt that there wasn't enough focus on finishing the match. It took a very long time until someone even attempted their finisher. There could of also been more focus on the storytelling of the match. It was there but not as much as the The Young Bucks vs Kota/Omega match which is a 5-star in my opinion. But at the same time I can't put AEW matches under the same lenses as New Japan where Naito will attempt his Destino 4 times before actually hitting it for the win. It is definitely more preferred because it is more realistic that you'd want to hit your finisher earlier than 20+ minutes in.


Kris Statlander vs Nyla Rose(c)

This was the hump of the show and the cool off match. Thus I was mostly eating during this match. I had no expectations Nyla Rose would lose. I doubt anyone else did here so I'm not even going to spoiler tag.

Maxwell Jacob Friedman vs Cody Rhodes

Story-telling wise this was the best match. MJF continues to show he is the best heel in the business. Cody Rhodes tattoo is a bit weird and kinda distracting.


Orange Cassidy vs PAC

Personally Orange Cassidy is not my cup of tea. I get it. He is the King of Sloth Style. His matches are comedy matches. I really enjoy Toru Yano vs Colt Cabana but even they are more serious than Orange Cassidy. What I can say is he kept my attention the whole match in anticipation of when he was going to kick it up a notch. So I guess that is a compliment.

Chris Jericho(c) vs Jon Moxley

This was a good main event. Even before this match started I felt the buy was worth it.



Match of the Night: Kenny Omega and Adam Page(c) vs The Young Bucks
Show Score: 80 out of 100

There were 3 average matches on this card that kept the score from reaching as high as Full Gear. But your always going to get a quality card from AEW but The Elite are still the ones doing the heavy lifting. I hoping to not say that for the next PPV. MJF is moving up the card but who else?

I'm going to pull the 5-Trigger on this match for two reasons that was said in this video. First is that the match rewarded you for paying attention to other Tag Team matches involving these four and there really wasn't much down time during a 30-minute tag team match.