| Feel free to discuss whatever you want here, but I have a few things I personally wanted to mention. 1) MAL Score Kinda frustrates me but I'm frankly not worried about it. This story is definitely a slow-burner and I believe it will attract more and more people as the season progresses. It's just... there's really been nothing wrong with this so far, so I don't understand why the rating is so low. 2) Soundtrack Talk about disappointing... For people that have read the original VN, it's actually super disappointing considering we were praying that they'd use the retro 8-bit tracks or at least remixes of them, but what we have instead is an almost completely anime-original score, asides from a few specific instances. Furthermore, it feels like they're just rotating between the same 3 tracks... The one thing that does give me hope, though, is that the composer is the guy who did the Violet Evergarden soundtrack, which was freaking incredible. I'm hoping they're just purposely holding back on the music now. We should see next episode if the music will get more diverse because there should be a lot of emotion upcoming. 3. Directing I just gotta say.... What an absolute pleasant surprise this has been! When I originally read the director's thoughts months ago on the show I was prepared for the absolute worst, especially considering the only notable thing he's done is Grimoire of Zero which was a trainwreck. But... the directing so far here has been the strongest point of the show. Everything is subtle, tons of visual foreshadowing, great scene direction. 100% satisfied with the direction and very, very happy. ---------------- Overall I think this is shaping up to be quite the nice anime adaptation. Some of the stuff has deviated from the VN but ultimately I think these changes are important for it to become a good anime, not simply just a faithful adaptation. Curious to hear thoughts from anime-only watchers as well! |
phiraethApr 12, 2019 12:28 PM
| From a reader of the original VN I see that someone is missing, in general the mood it's less darker and scary, and the music yes, it's not what I expected, but it's not bad for now, I expect to listen more during some climax. In general I'm disappointed about the score on MAL, I hope that it will be higher when next episodes will come out, personally I don't give never a personal score until the anime is finished. For the directing I'm not such an expert to say, but it seems good, it would be nice if they brought the first trailer scene in some of the episodes, that is also the introduction of the VN as we readers know. |
 My visual novel list https://vndb.org/u152159 |
| While the score so far is disappointing, if you click on the stats tab which shows the scores broken down, it looks like there's still hope. There's not really too many that voted a 1 or 2 (roughly 100, which is small since we're talking in thousands), it's just there seems to be a lot of votes for 6 which is lagging it down. Plus the obvious factor like people waiting till its finished to cast their vote, this means that only a small portion have voted. 2,515 votes out of roughly 13,668 listed viewers, so only a percentage of around 18.4% have actually voted so far out of the people listed as watching. (Which those numbers will be slightly skewed from not considering the people who put "on hold" or "dropped.") |
| Signature: I prefer comedies, horror, hentai, and combinations of such. Anime with a lack of fan service is a disservice. |
| I want to comment on the show's pacing. It seems very slow. Not only that, but the episodes are really boring too. The only good part I've seen is the last quarter of the first episode. Maybe that's just how this show is. Hopefully it becomes better as the story develops. I'm definitely gonna stay for at least the next few episodes though. |
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| "there's really been nothing wrong with this so far, so I don't understand why the rating is so low." When are people going to understand that 6.5 doesnt mean that there is 'something wrong with the show'? It means it was either mediocre or above average for most people. Actually,most people rated it a 7 so far |
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Nostalgik said: "there's really been nothing wrong with this so far, so I don't understand why the rating is so low." When are people going to understand that 6.5 doesnt mean that there is 'something wrong with the show'? It means it was either mediocre or above average for most people. Actually,most people rated it a 7 so far Because most stuff that's worth watching is rated over a 7. |
ycleped said: Yeah I'm aware of that. But that also depends on how many people score the show, and who scores the show. For most people on MAL, 7 is average, and considering this is a 'slow burner', it doesnt seem too weird for most people to rate it either as average or as simply "Good"(what the 7 score actually means). So, as you said, if this anime actually pays off as the viewer progresses with the story, it's sure to pass the 7 mark. Nostalgik said: "there's really been nothing wrong with this so far, so I don't understand why the rating is so low." When are people going to understand that 6.5 doesnt mean that there is 'something wrong with the show'? It means it was either mediocre or above average for most people. Actually,most people rated it a 7 so far Because most stuff that's worth watching is rated over a 7. It's also worth noting that I've noticed that over time more and more series have been having a score below 7, especially at the beginning of each season, which is great because it means more people are actually paying attention to what's written by each score's number x) Fairy Gone for instance, didnt see many people calling it a "bad" show, but it's still at 6.6 |
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Nostalgik said: Yeah I'm aware of that. But that also depends on how many people score the show, and who scores the show. For most people on MAL, 7 is average, and considering this is a 'slow burner', it doesnt seem too weird for most people to rate it either as average or as simply "Good"(what the 7 score actually means). So, as you said, if this anime actually pays off as the viewer progresses with the story, it's sure to pass the 7 mark. It's also worth noting that I've noticed that over time more and more series have been having a score below 7, especially at the beginning of each season, which is great because it means more people are actually paying attention to what's written by each score's number x) Fairy Gone for instance, didnt see many people calling it a "bad" show, but it's still at 6.6 It's a good thing imo that scores are decreasing all across the board, but that won't fix scores that people have given for the past forever lol. |
| The MAL rating is actually laughable so i have started to not giving a fuck about that for this show. I expected this show to be my AOTS and so far it's my AOTS. Expected more of the music as well but what can you do. The plot and the characters are the strong point of this for me so far, the MC is really good. Been rewatching the first two episodes once each and will continue with that, i usually don't do this but i think, it'll pay off in the end. |
Smudy said: The MAL rating is actually laughable so i have started to not giving a fuck about that for this show. I expected this show to be my AOTS and so far it's my AOTS. Expected more of the music as well but what can you do. The plot and the characters are the strong point of this for me so far, the MC is really good. Been rewatching the first two episodes once each and will continue with that, i usually don't do this but i think, it'll pay off in the end. I'm especially glad to see you're enjoying this, specifically since we have very similar interests in anime. I'm sure the rating will go up once the story starts to heat up! |
| So far I think the score on MAL (6.50) is fair. It was not interesting at all, the development seems kind of cliche/common and none of the characters have anything special. We raised many bad flags all over the place and I can't stop felling that at any momment they gonna come with a cheap "shock factor". So far I gave the show 5 but that's certainly not definitive, everything can change (for worse or better). |
shiro_kai said: So far I think the score on MAL (6.50) is fair. It was not interesting at all, the development seems kind of cliche/common and none of the characters have anything special. We raised many bad flags all over the place and I can't stop felling that at any momment they gonna come with a cheap "shock factor". So far I gave the show 5 but that's certainly not definitive, everything can change (for worse or better). There's no cheap "shock factor", I can assure you. All the pieces of the puzzle towards the end of the first cour will start coming together and BOOM you'll understand everything that's happening. I just don't see how the score is going DOWN at this point, the episodes keep getting better. |
ycleped said: shiro_kai said: So far I think the score on MAL (6.50) is fair. It was not interesting at all, the development seems kind of cliche/common and none of the characters have anything special. We raised many bad flags all over the place and I can't stop felling that at any momment they gonna come with a cheap "shock factor". So far I gave the show 5 but that's certainly not definitive, everything can change (for worse or better). There's no cheap "shock factor", I can assure you. All the pieces of the puzzle towards the end of the first cour will start coming together and BOOM you'll understand everything that's happening. I just don't see how the score is going DOWN at this point, the episodes keep getting better. The pace is not helping probably. Maybe binging it all togeter in the end will make it better, cause one boring settup episode per week is not what people usually look at when looking for an "entertainment", I think. |
shiro_kai said: The pace is not helping probably. Maybe binging it all togeter in the end will make it better, cause one boring settup episode per week is not what people usually look at when looking for an "entertainment", I think. I personally don't see an issue with the pacing. |
| The only REAL problem of the series is music now and it bothers me because the soundtrack of the game is beautiful. And all the other complaints are the typical complaints that you find in all the series until they end shiro_kai said: ycleped said: There's no cheap "shock factor", I can assure you. All the pieces of the puzzle towards the end of the first cour will start coming together and BOOM you'll understand everything that's happening. I just don't see how the score is going DOWN at this point, the episodes keep getting better. The pace is not helping probably. Maybe binging it all togeter in the end will make it better, cause one boring settup episode per week is not what people usually look at when looking for an "entertainment", I think. That has a trap, I can perfectly have fun playing a Dynasty Warrior and the next day have fun reading 3 hours of Utawarerumono. |
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| So far, I personally really like the vibes I'm getting. Really reminding me of Steins;Gate in terms of tension for me, and it's definitely one of my favorites so far this season. |
| If the anime is good it will even out once the once who dropped it early no longer have their score counted. you just need to stop obsessing over it the beginning is really nothing earth shattering to get a high rating at this point. Also just because the VN was good doesn't mean the anime will be good as well bad VN adaptations are pretty common. |
Whiplash93 said: From a reader of the original VN I see that someone is missing, in general the mood it's less darker and scary, and the music yes, it's not what I expected, but it's not bad for now, I expect to listen more during some climax. In general I'm disappointed about the score on MAL, I hope that it will be higher when next episodes will come out, personally I don't give never a personal score until the anime is finished. For the directing I'm not such an expert to say, but it seems good, it would be nice if they brought the first trailer scene in some of the episodes, that is also the introduction of the VN as we readers know. so I started watching this and it seems interesting but I found out it's based off a adult vn. was a hentai too. judging by 1st ep mc has been sexually active. wondering if this anime adaptation will cut out the sexual content like anime adaptions like fate stay night grasalia have done... |
Whiplash93 said: From a reader of the original VN I see that someone is missing, in general the mood it's less darker and scary, and the music yes, it's not what I expected, but it's not bad for now, I expect to listen more during some climax. In general I'm disappointed about the score on MAL, I hope that it will be higher when next episodes will come out, personally I don't give never a personal score until the anime is finished. For the directing I'm not such an expert to say, but it seems good, it would be nice if they brought the first trailer scene in some of the episodes, that is also the introduction of the VN as we readers know. I think so, and I'm sad about it, because in the original VN the most times the sexual scenes had context and they were emotionally powerful, really. I don't know how it is the VN remake or how it will be here, but I hope that it will be worth it! |
| My visual novel list https://vndb.org/u152159 |
| The show just got added to Crunchyroll (well, the US Crunchyroll at least,) so that should bring an influx of viewers which may get a more solid grasp of what the eventual score would be. |
| Signature: I prefer comedies, horror, hentai, and combinations of such. Anime with a lack of fan service is a disservice. |
sexyzombieroo said: The show just got added to Crunchyroll (well, the US Crunchyroll at least,) so that should bring an influx of viewers which may get a more solid grasp of what the eventual score would be. Crunchyroll jsut means more editing low ratings rip. |
Nostalgik said: "there's really been nothing wrong with this so far, so I don't understand why the rating is so low." When are people going to understand that 6.5 doesnt mean that there is 'something wrong with the show'? It means it was either mediocre or above average for most people. Actually,most people rated it a 7 so far 6.5 is below average on MAL. The average rating for shows on MAL is 6.87 https://graph.anime.plus/s/globals So yes... 7 is about the average score for a show on MAL. |
ycleped said: I just gotta say.... What an absolute pleasant surprise this has been! When I originally read the director's thoughts months ago on the show I was prepared for the absolute worst, especially considering the only notable thing he's done is Grimoire of Zero which was a trainwreck. Why was it a trainwreck? |
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bastek66 said: ycleped said: I just gotta say.... What an absolute pleasant surprise this has been! When I originally read the director's thoughts months ago on the show I was prepared for the absolute worst, especially considering the only notable thing he's done is Grimoire of Zero which was a trainwreck. Why was it a trainwreck? I shouldn't call something a trainwreck that I haven't even seen. My apologies. |
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