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Kinda annoying that the Radiant Manga isn’t on here.

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Jan 2, 2019 7:59 AM
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Let’s be honest, it’s a manga in every way other than where it’s originally made, and even then it’s published in Japanese too. The physical volume was in the manga section of my local book store, it’s undoubtably a manga in terms of style and appearance, it’s published by Viz and it’s got an anime adaptation that is on here. It’s just a bit of a pain that I can’t catalogue it on here like I do with every other manga I read, and talk about the chapters, etc. ‘Specially since it’s main audience is probably on here.

Edit: just realised, we have Manhwa and the like on here in their own separate category on here, maybe we could get a “Foreign Manga” one so there’s no need to argue semantics.
Oni_ZokuchouJan 2, 2019 8:30 AM
Jan 2, 2019 9:50 AM
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I would to see the Radiant manga on here too, also the Lumine eventhough it is a manhwa it could be great having it here
Jan 4, 2019 9:50 PM
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it's not a manga. maybe if you stopped see it as so you'd under why it's not here.

looking like mango =/= mango. manwha is added because it is asian. therefore it's not foreign.
Jan 4, 2019 10:32 PM
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TomDay said:
it's not a manga. maybe if you stopped see it as so you'd under why it's not here.

looking like mango =/= mango. manwha is added because it is asian. therefore it's not foreign.

Not really that relevent, but just so you know, asian countries are indeed foreign to each other...they don't even speak the same language bro.

Source: I am Asian
Jan 4, 2019 11:54 PM
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You know it's French, yes? That's like asking why isn't devil's candy not here.
Jan 5, 2019 9:18 AM
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i think it has to have been released in japan because those are the rules to add manga on here but i am not too sure on that exactly what the guidelines are.
Jan 5, 2019 9:21 PM
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N30-R3TR0 said:

Not really that relevent, but just so you know, asian countries are indeed foreign to each other...they don't even speak the same language bro.

Source: I am Asian

foreign meaning outside of asia, not japan.
Jan 6, 2019 5:57 AM
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aybekay said:
i think it has to have been released in japan because those are the rules to add manga on here but i am not too sure on that exactly what the guidelines are.


It has been released in japan. It’s translated and published over there, almost as much as the French version, and way ahead of the English version.
Jan 6, 2019 6:02 AM
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TomDay said:
N30-R3TR0 said:

Not really that relevent, but just so you know, asian countries are indeed foreign to each other...they don't even speak the same language bro.

Source: I am Asian

foreign meaning outside of asia, not japan.


Manga isn’t Asian (as a whole) tho, it’s Japanese? Hence Manhwa is foreign manga, since it’s made outside of Japan. So there’s no reason why Radiant can’t also be classified like manhwa are. The only thing that classifies manga is the fact that it’s made in Japan exclusively, yet you’re extending that to the whole of Asia which is already outside of the definition, so why stop there? We’re just pointlessly arguing semantics here, which the whole reason I said we should get another category for stuff like Radiant; so people like you don’t waste time with these same pointless recycled points that are full of holes.

Go ask the Japanese if they think Radiant is a manga, and I’m pretty sure we both know the answer we’d get. But nevermind that.
Jan 6, 2019 11:12 PM

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Oni_Zokuchou said:


Manga isn’t Asian (as a whole) tho, it’s Japanese?

i wasn't talking about manga. i was talking about asian content, which MAL allows as a whole. therefore, manwha is not foreign.

Hence Manhwa is foreign manga

•1 it's not a manga. there can't be a foreign "manga" since it's only japanese, which manwha isn't
•2 it's not foreign.

So there’s no reason why Radiant can’t also be classified like manhwa are.


you're just being blinded by your own views instead of just reading MAL's rules, which are rather simple. chinese, korean and japanese content are allowed because they belong to the asian continent. you're like the same people that come here making wasted time and arguments over why RWBY isn't classified in the anime section because it simply looks like an anime, which is unbelievably ignorant.

The only thing that classifies manga is the fact that it’s made in Japan exclusively


you're onto something here!

yet you’re extending that to the whole of Asia which is already outside of the definition, so why stop there?

i am not extending shit. it's called reading and understanding the rules, which i didn't make and had less than 0 involvement in.


We’re just pointlessly arguing semantics here

eh, i'm not really arguing. i'm just telling you the facts and you're just ignoring them.

which the whole reason I said we should get another category for stuff like Radiant; so people like you don’t waste time with these same pointless recycled points that are full of holes.

you do realise that with this being done, anything published on the planet that simply imitates manga illustration will be included, right? what sense is that?

Go ask the Japanese if they think Radiant is a manga, and I’m pretty sure we both know the answer we’d get. But nevermind that.

the japanese have no more say in it than you or i do. it's MAL's rules, which i suggest you read up on pronto.
Jan 7, 2019 3:25 PM
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Whatever man, I didnt need you to do exactly what I said is pointless and has been done countless times before like clockwork, and with the same needless snark too. Since it’s not the rules rn, maybe its about time they got updated, since as we can see with radiant, they’re a bit outdated. With this being one of the main places of discussion and somewhat credible reviews, it’d make sense and just be better for everyone involved if it was on here. And clearly it wouldn’t be in the hyperbolic way you put it, there’d have to be better classification than just “made in Asia”, but that also means better classification than “anything that imitates manga”.

Go ahead and waste your time deconstructing this reply or making a short sarcastic and witty reply, it’s not what I made this post for in the first place anyway. And if you’ve got nothing to do with the rules, don’t bother preaching to people about them, they’ll just get annoyed and not care, especially with the tone you use, mate. Please go take your paragraphs somewhere else.
Oni_ZokuchouJan 7, 2019 3:33 PM
Jan 8, 2019 3:05 AM

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The problem is that Radiant is just one series, rules shouldn't be changed for one series alone. You have to think of the bigger picture, how many more of these foreign series can you name that you think actually interests the userbase of MAL? Both manwha and manhua typically follow a lot of the same storytelling techniques that manga traditionally uses, so they naturally have a lot of overlap in whether there's an interest from the users here. I don't really think the same can be said for most foreign comics.
Jan 8, 2019 7:28 AM
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Dysisa said:
The problem is that Radiant is just one series, rules shouldn't be changed for one series alone. You have to think of the bigger picture, how many more of these foreign series can you name that you think actually interests the userbase of MAL? Both manwha and manhua typically follow a lot of the same storytelling techniques that manga traditionally uses, so they naturally have a lot of overlap in whether there's an interest from the users here. I don't really think the same can be said for most foreign comics.


I just think it’s a shame for they few series that do. I think instead of changing the overall rules completely, just have an exception clause for series like radiant. As long as it ticks all the boxes except for area of origin, it should be added as an exception. Said boxes would obviously be stuff like published by a manga publisher (like Viz), read right-to-left, official Japanese localisation, etc. And with a rule like this, you wouldn’t have to sort through foreign series that aren’t eliblge with much difficulty. Plus it’s not that difficult to do background checks on series these days.
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Oni_Zokuchou said:
I just think it’s a shame for they few series that do. I think instead of changing the overall rules completely, just have an exception clause for series like radiant. As long as it ticks all the boxes except for area of origin, it should be added as an exception. Said boxes would obviously be stuff like published by a manga publisher (like Viz), read right-to-left, official Japanese localisation, etc. And with a rule like this, you wouldn’t have to sort through foreign series that aren’t eliblge with much difficulty. Plus it’s not that difficult to do background checks on series these days.

I understand the feeling more than well. I'd love to be able to add cool stuff like Lastman and Ryuko to my list, but I get why I can't.

I'm not a fan of trying to set guidelines for exactly what defines a series as being foreign manga. That, and the manga database already has a huge backlog, so I'm not sure it needs the gargantuan task of having to start verifying which foreign comics are and aren't valid added to it.

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