Is it not against the rules of the "universe" (in which this "spin-off" is presumably set in) to cause harm to one's master?
| You are late like two weeks for flame, the show is losing trolls and discussions are no more fun just give up no one care. |
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| Where did you get that from? Servant can kill their Master whenever and however they like if they don't find them satisfying enough and it won't be against any rules. |
| What fucking proper fate series have you been watching? |
| If a servant couldn't disobey a master, the command spells would not exist in the first place... They are heroes from legends, you can't expect them to be blind fools who follows orders from masters who not even once have been to war. This has been stated so much trough out Fate, that servants only obey a master who they deem worth of them and the only reason they do so, is because they have a common goal as their masters, to win holy grail and get their wishes granted. |
| Sounds like you're thrown off by the terms "Master" and "Servant" and think of servants as slaves or something. No, Servants are generally far superior beings that can kill you at anytime, they only stay around because of presumably aligned goals of obtaining the grail, or honor, or they just like you. That's why Tokiomi treated Gilgamesh with utmost respect as a superior, and why Darnic is letting Vlad be in the position of authority right now. If the servant thinks you're unworthy, then they're free to kill you, just as the master is free to backstab them by ordering them to kill themselves first. |
| Jesus Christ why are you still watching any fate series if the only thing I see you do is complain about every mechanic the series has, even if the mechanic is ok, mediocre, bad, or good you just complain because god knows why you're so freaking bored. The biggest example of servants doing whatever the fuck they want was Medea (CASTER) who killed her Master* because he was a big scumbag, the only thing that could not made her possible to kill him was the command seals but she used her NP to break their contract. I don't even know how you watch a serie without understanding an explicitly explained mechanic..... |
VeromayeJul 24, 2017 8:36 PM
| By the way, sometimes Servants don't even want to be alive anymore. Gilgamesh didn't had any intents of obtaining the grail. Neither EMIYA. They are forced by the grail to resurrect and fight. Even some Berserk lack of having a wish or a reason to fight, they just fight because their master can control them, ex: Heracles, Lancelot, Spartacus.. So yeah just give up the series man, if you don't like it ok, it's trash for you, that's fine. But stop wasting your time trying to "understand trash". |
| Did you forget that Caster in the original Fate Stay Night killed her Master? |
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Daniel_Naumov said: K forgive me for giving any credit to the series for a thought-out and thorough universe corresponding with common sense. And thanks for explaining me the lack of proper techniques behind the world. I guess I will keep silently whining to myself how much potential is wasted on some of the Japs. Case closed. You're missing the point. The servants aren't bound to obey their masters because of the contract. They obey because of the promise of a granted wish by the grail and common interest. As everyone else stated, the command seals are just insurance. If the servant does not desire anything, then the grail is meaningless. If they don't share interests with their master, then they can think of ways to shift or kill their masters (as Medea and Gil has shown) |
| You seem to be under a major misunderstanding. Servants can freely eliminate their master at anytime, even command seals wouldn't help you if they are serious about it (as most can chop up your arm before you blink). Most only help because they are nice enough to not care much or they have some wish of their own. Which is why no normal mage have ever won a grail war in any timeline, because they always manage to piss off their partner before they won and get killed. |
| "You had no free will, you chased your vices along the same path as all of the others." - Shikieiki Yamaxanadu, Diamond in the rough |
Daniel_Naumov said: If they get killed do servants always disappear? Depends on how much a mana-hog the servant is. Some like Herc from FSN would disappear instantly, others can dance around for days as long as they don't overexert their noble phantasm. In terms of overall staying time Archer > Caster > Assassin > Rider > Lancer > Saber > Berserker. |
| "You had no free will, you chased your vices along the same path as all of the others." - Shikieiki Yamaxanadu, Diamond in the rough |
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