neonxaos said: What's wrong? You mean beside the underage sexual themes, which are treated in the most stupid way imaginable, the WINK WINK not-incest-hee-hee, and the absolutely atrocious writing? I can't believe that people are pulling the "don't take it seriously" card. That's exactly the problem, this SHOULD be taken seriously. This show is making light of very serious issues, and this merits criticism no matter the genre or medium. Also, its jokes fall flat (for me, tastes vary), the characters are all over the place and it is generally just a terrible piece of work except for the decent art. I don't mind trashy shows if they have something interesting on offer, but this one just does not work for me in any way, shape or form. You may disagree, and that is perfectly fine, but I can't just sit and be quiet about this. Then come back when your comprehension skills are up to par. The characters are not all over the place. What does that even mean? "Terrible piece of work except for the art" You really came to bitch and could not even muster 1 genuine non ambiguous criticism? Seems like the typical triggered nerd. "Serious issues" Get over yourself. |
| I am 14 and I love this show the boobs look nice I want to squish them XD!!!!!!!!!!!! The colours are nice and pretty. I don't care what people say they hate on everyting that is good like Naruto and SAO XD!!!!!!!!! Seriously the show is just a bad show... Y'all are getting offended people don't like this show because you think people are hating on your kink. Watch what you want but don't try and claim this show is anything more than it is; lowest common denominator fanservice. |
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neonxaos said: I am not going to take your bait. The OP asks why people hate the show, and I simply replied, because I feel strongly about it. I think sexualization of underage girls (and boys, for that matter) is a very serious issue, and this is by far my main problem with the show, because it treats it as comedy and ecchi eye candy. I do not appreciate the writing and humor, but if you do, that is fine by me. I could go into a lot of detail about the writing, but I don't think it will be of value to either of us at this point. You can call me triggered as much as you want, and of course I'm a nerd, I'm quite proud of that, thank you. The industry was built on the sexualization of underage girls, Sailor Chibi Moon, Asuka from Evangelion, you dont get to pretend your somehow above it all. Your only as good as the company you keep. |
| What is far more of an interesting issue than the one OP is asking for is why all positive reviews of this anime question the impartiality of the negative ones (going against the review guidelines by the way). The need to find some sort of justification or why the world is wrong by having this down at the #3000 position is simply hilarious. |
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Gyappu said: Lordwen said: What is far more of an interesting issue than the one OP is asking for is why all positive reviews of this anime question the impartiality of the negative ones (going against the review guidelines by the way). The need to find some sort of justification or why the world is wrong by having this down at the #3000 position is simply hilarious. LOL. Couldn't have said it better. All in all, I find this situation far more hilarious and interesting than the anime itself could ever hope to be. Who gives a shit when all the reviews, negative and positive, had all been written before episode 4 even came out? The entire review system on MAL is broken and has been hijacked by losers using it as a blog for a very long time. Its hilarious there are still people that do not instantly scroll past them. |
| Because it truly exemplifies the reason the anime industry, and why us as a community, will never be taken seriously. |
  ✧༝┉˚*❋ ❋*˚┉༝✧ 鼻をくすぐるGunpowder & Smoke ジャララ飛び交うEmpty gun cartridges 紅いヒールに見惚れて うっかり風穴欲しいヤツは 挙手をしな ･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧ 🍰 ଘ(੭*ˊᵕˋ)੭* ੈ♡‧₊˚ ✧༝┉˚*❋ ❋*˚┉༝✧ |
| The fact that this show is popular in Japan made me loose hope for the industry completely. I just can’t believe that anyone older than 12 can find this thing good and defend it . |
CrimsonResonance said: Because it truly exemplifies the reason the anime industry, and why us as a community, will never be taken seriously. Says the guy decked out in Asuka pics. You just cant make this shit up. J1m1s said: The fact that this show is popular in Japan made me loose hope for the industry completely. I just can’t believe that anyone older than 12 can find this thing good and defend it . Good, hopefully the door hits you on the way out. You never belonged. Buying all 7 volumes of the BD to stick it to plebs like you guys. |
Reikuo said: CrimsonResonance said: Because it truly exemplifies the reason the anime industry, and why us as a community, will never be taken seriously. Says the guy decked out in Asuka pics. You just cant make this shit up. I mean, if you really wanna believe that a character like Asuka is of the same caliber as a perverted loli imouto then... |
✧༝┉˚*❋ ❋*˚┉༝✧ 鼻をくすぐるGunpowder & Smoke ジャララ飛び交うEmpty gun cartridges 紅いヒールに見惚れて うっかり風穴欲しいヤツは 挙手をしな ･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧ 🍰 ଘ(੭*ˊᵕˋ)੭* ੈ♡‧₊˚ ✧༝┉˚*❋ ❋*˚┉༝✧ |
| I understand why people have bad impressions, personally I expected good characters and a well written story but it is boring with bad written characters the only good thing about is the title. |
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| In all honesty I don't think it's half bad. Though it seems more like more of something we already have, there is nothing wrong with it. Though I am willing to sit and watch a meh anime then one that tries too hard to be something. |
| Its a big fucking rip off and can not stand how bs this show is. |
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Red_Ryu12345 said: Reikuo said: The industry was built on the sexualization of underage girls, Sailor Chibi Moon, Asuka from Evangelion, you dont get to pretend your somehow above it all. Your only as good as the company you keep. Chibi Moon was never really sexualized outside of when she was turned into Black Lady. Asuka was but there was sort of a point to it despite her being terrible. This show is, but really that's it's only appeal since nothing else is really good in this show. Outside of animation, sometimes, and coloring but that doesn't save it. By some peoples definition Chibi Moon was, and you give Asuka a pass for an unnamed reason... Eromanga Sensei does not need saving, its doing extraordinarily well. |
Gyappu said: Reikuo said: By some peoples definition Chibi Moon was, and you give Asuka a pass for an unnamed reason... Eromanga Sensei does not need saving, its doing extraordinarily well. Child porn is also doing extraordinarily well in the dark web, its fans and seekers growing by the day. So you see, something doing well does not equate it being good. It simply means the show has ignited certain erogenous zones (pun intended) that are massively owned by a certain type of audience. You can spend all the time you want online comparing this show to actual cases of abuse, it just makes you a very nasty and disgusting person and it wont be changing any minds. Season 2 is coming whether you like it or not. |
Gyappu said: Reikuo said: You can spend all the time you want online comparing this show to actual cases of abuse, it just makes you a very nasty and disgusting person and it wont be changing any minds. Season 2 is coming whether you like it or not. Oh do not worry dying fan of Eromanga Sensei, I have neither the intention nor the interest of "changing" this anime fans' minds. I'm well aware they're far beyond that. As for season 2, I for one think it would be great if it happened. It will certainly offer me, and many others I'm sure, plenty of entertainment and smiles in these forums and other places where this anime is being "discussed". Yes, we are far beyond that. You dont have the intention nor interest of having a discussion, you are just a miserable person drawn to negativity. Your a petty person who lets the enjoyment of others bother you and you sulk on forums over it, hoping to drag them down to your level. Low energy and sad... |
Gyappu said: Reikuo said: Yes, we are far beyond that. You dont have the intention nor interest of having a discussion, you are just a miserable person drawn to negativity. Your a petty person who lets the enjoyment of others bother you and you sulk on forums over it, hoping to drag them down to your level. Low energy and sad... Hahahaha! Kudos for being a faintly entertaining individual. You speak of me being "miserable" and "negative", yet I did not insult you or called you anything did I? You're the one calling me and others names here. Perhaps you should check your own negativity and conduct before you attempt to speak of others. But please, do not see this as a discouragement. Any reply, insult, or comment from you will prove entertaining, I'm sure. Even if it's only for a fleeting moment. Delicious tears from the cuck cry baby again, another low energy post... Sad. |
| I don't like the show either only the title but every person in the comment section that things it borders on childpornography and can't distinguish between fiction and real life have a serious problem. |
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Atomicipher said: This thread is still about what people don't like about eromanga sensei. Insulting people and calling them a cuck doesn't contribute anything. Making negative assumptions about people, and then using them to dismiss any legitimate criticisms of a show is in poor taste. On the other hand, I don't really see how this is incest baiting either. The show says straight up front that they are not blood-related, and they don't even know each other. Right then and there, it just becomes another show about cute girls. If Sagiri was changed from being a step sister to a random squatter that refused to leave the house, literally nothing else in the anime changes. If the show was hoping to be a better Oreimo, it completely failed. So now the show is just one about cute girls, but it's not that good at it either. There's almost no character development, and nothing happens plotwise (even in a genre where the plot is kind of unnecessary). A great example of bad plot and character development is episode 10. Its second half has Muramasa decide not to write anymore, and no one questions it until hours later. Then main character #534 motivates Muramasa by showing her his fan letters, basically motivating her by saying how awesome he is. In the end, her goal becomes getting main character #839 to love her, which is a goal she already did. Nothing changes whatsoever and Eromanga-sensei pretends it's some big character development moment. The show feels so empty, I don't care about anyone or what's going on. If you want to watch cute girls, there's a bunch more that have likable characters, and decent humor that doesn't get drawn out. Alright lets take a look at your criticisms. "The show has no character development." Masamune at the start of the show had hardly talked to Sagiri in a year, she had only communicated online. In the episodes up to what we have seen thus far, she has talked to Masamune a great deal, had two new people into her room, and had been partaking in group activities with Masamunes friends via the computer, confessed a great deal of her true feelings to Masamune and has gotten to know him much better, and plenty more. "Nothing happens plotwise" Elfs confession, Masamune telling Sagiri he loves her but he wants to be her brother, Sagiri progressing on her own feelings, Masamune securing his book deal, etc, there are things happening within the plot. As for episode 10 he showed Muramasa the fan letters she wrote to him. Made a speech that was not grand, for sure, and Muramasa vowed to continue perusing him essentially. He definitely never made himself seem awesome, has asked both her and Elf for advice plenty of times. He also showed his admiration for both of their works. Im not sure how it pretended it was a big character development moment, it was just reiterating that the race was still on. There is plenty of character and plot development going on. If you find that plot to be cringy, that is subjective and that is an opinion. However, not liking the direction the show is taking is grounds for dropping the show and moving on with your life. It does not invalidate your opinion on the show, but there is a serious lack of criticism that has any thought remotely put into it from the community on this show. Saying "There is no plot development" or other easy, blanket statements is just as useful as name calling. Another reason people are tired of this same old song and dance is that people make low energy posts criticizing this genre all the time. They are always the same criticisms, and they are boring. We get it, fans are split on the state of the industry right now but it is what it is. People attempt to come in and judge content based on this dissatisfaction with the state of anime. You yourself seem jaded, "main character #534, #839... I mean, why not just pick up another hobby if your that displeased? I mean with that attitude it is no wonder the show feels empty to you. If your not satisfied with the content and your still watching then are you surprised people that even remotely actually enjoy it are? Who is forcing you to watch harem romcom anime? |
Atomicipher said: This thread is still about what people don't like about eromanga sensei. Insulting people and calling them a cuck doesn't contribute anything. Making negative assumptions about people, and then using them to dismiss any legitimate criticisms of a show is in poor taste. On the other hand, I don't really see how this is incest baiting either. The show says straight up front that they are not blood-related, and they don't even know each other. Right then and there, it just becomes another show about cute girls. If Sagiri was changed from being a step sister to a random squatter that refused to leave the house, literally nothing else in the anime changes. If the show was hoping to be a better Oreimo, it completely failed. So now the show is just one about cute girls, but it's not that good at it either. There's almost no character development, and nothing happens plotwise (even in a genre where the plot is kind of unnecessary). A great example of bad plot and character development is episode 10. Its second half has Muramasa decide not to write anymore, and no one questions it until hours later. Then main character #534 motivates Muramasa by showing her his fan letters, basically motivating her by saying how awesome he is. In the end, her goal becomes getting main character #839 to love her, which is a goal she already did. Nothing changes whatsoever and Eromanga-sensei pretends it's some big character development moment. The show feels so empty, I don't care about anyone or what's going on. If you want to watch cute girls, there's a bunch more that have likable characters, and decent humor that doesn't get drawn out. I completely agree with this. The problem with this anime isn’t just the shameless fanservice, we all know other shows that had lolis and incest but still had better reception than this (eg no game no life), that is because they also had something else to offer besides fanservice. This thing has nothing! The “plot” is completely boring and unfocused, the characters are inconsistent and uninteresting, the comedy is terribly written full of clichés, the main character is a generic harem guy, the “character development” is the girls falling in love with the guy for no reason, even the animation is completely mediocre and generic. This thing fails at everything. |
| Because they sexualize children. Also "all the girls of my age love dicks!". |
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| Plot From Ep1-11 in chronological order - Mc and Sagiri have a 5 year difference, how nice - Mc uploads some novels and Sagiri finds them "conveniently" - Both of their parents can remarry for "convenience" and somehow are in the same area and somehow remarry - Both of those parents die "conveniently" - The Aunt lets Mc and Sagiri stay in the house without any supervision - The rest is basically the generic "girl comes in" thing that you get with harems, except those girls are lolis. Pretty much all the girls are lolis except the super minor characters like the editor and his best friend. Of course there is filler, I mean if I had to sit in front of a screen for 2400 minutes and watch a plot like this, I would suffer alot more than I usually suffer from being alive. The bad comedy (for me anyways), moeness, and fanservice makes up for the plot, and if the comedy itself doesnt help, just look at the plot again. If you don't like fanservice, like me, then laugh at that too. Moe is something that i dont care for The opening and ending? Who seriously even watches that, let alone 12 times? In my opinion, the anime is like something from pop radio; Generic and just bad, but of course its still popular Although I do enjoy watching this anime, I still think its pretty bad and even a little bit boring. Also I dont mind incest but I guess thats bad so yeah.. siscon lolicon novel writer living together with his little 12yo vagtoy sister who draws Very Nicee hentai babes, a middle school girlie who tries to act like a slut but isnt, your average cliched tsundere (i hate these types of cliched girls) rich loli who writes (i dont remember why, but who cares? Gotta make it convinient), and an old fashioned loli who writes because she can. |
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| While I don't want to get too heavy on comparisons to this author's previous work, the fact that this show and OreImo are so similar to the point where it feels almost 1 to 1 at points makes it necessary. I am not a huge OreImo fan, but I was fond of it during its first season and I even liked moments in the second season, but like a lot of people I thought the ending was terrible and poorly executed, with writing that just came undone when it was most convenient. The primary difference between this and OreImo is that OreImo was surprisingly well written at points. It had well defined themes about otaku culture and family relationships, and an incredibly strong secondary cast. As much as I was no fan of Kirino, her design was certainly very iconic, and the character designs in general were memorable and pleasant to the eye. Where Eromanga-sensei falters is not that it is a romantic comedy / harem in the same vein as OreImo and not that it doesn't have the same strength in character designs / visuals, but that it's just boring. It feels so dime-a-dozen. Sagiri is an infinitely more enjoyable character than Kirino, and while I thought I would actually enjoy the show more because of this, I actually liked it less. Kirino being the way she was actually provided a more interesting character and made her chemistry with the other characters more interesting. Sagiri is like this domesticated tsundere in comparison, and even then, she's basically lost the tsundere part where we're sitting right now in the season. The whole setup that leads to Sagiri and Masamune living together alone is just a plot convenience so that their family doesn't have to be a factor in the story at all beyond flashbacks. It's funny, because that was one of the things that made OreImo far more interesting. Remember Kyousuke defending Kirino by going off on his dad in her defense? That was one of the most memorable scenes from the first season. You could say that a lot of this is the author trying to write a "different" story, but the fundamentals aren't that different. He just made it easier to accomplish what he wanted to, which may have been good if he was writing something just for himself, but for an audience, having no conflict or striking moments just leads to an average show with very little significance. I thought maybe beyond Sagiri and Masamune, who is basically Kyousuke without any of his interesting traits (which were destroyed at some point in the second season anyway), the secondary cast would be able to save this show, but the author has even gone the path of least resistance in that regard. Megumi literally showed up to say "dicks" before she disappeared into insignificant character land. Elf is fun and admittedly one of the brighter parts of this show, but the more it forays into her attempts at romance with Masamune, the cheaper her character becomes. Speaking of cheap, Muramasa is a joke of a character. I understand that these characters don't have to be particularly deep or profound, but having a character seem like a sudden antagonist one episode, and then the next episode having her fall in love with the main character made me feel like I had whiplash. Now she's just become a stuttering mess every episode who obsesses over the main character nonstop. Then of course there's the bookstore girl who basically doesn't exist and the author dude who thinks Masamune is gay and that's the entire punchline to his existence. OreImo had goals and the show reached them, whether I liked the way they did it or not. Eromanga puts a high priority on the light novel writing aspect of the show but it feels so easily achieved and boring. Otherwise, the show doesn't go anywhere. Perhaps we're just waiting for him to propose to Sagiri at this point, because it's obvious she's going to win. The writer is pretending the secondary cast even has a chance. In OreImo it was believable because Kyousuke actually dated Ruri, but in this, nobody is even questioning the way it's going to go. Despite that, I want things to actually happen, and if not, then make this a slice of life worth watching. The comedy is cheap, the writing is convenient, the characters are forgettable, and it's just completely average all around. The only things worth mentioning are the OP/ED which are surprisingly good, and A-1 Pictures devoting the time to making this show look as good as OreImo did. Other than that, this is just another show I'm going to watch, give an average score, and forget about by the time I'm stuck in the next season watching more shows. I don't even really hate this show at all. In fact, I think I'd prefer if I felt that strongly about it. I think OreImo's ending was terrible and I hated almost every moment of it, but at least I'll always remember it because of that. If this show had half the balls to do anything interesting, I'd commend it for that and that alone. At the end of the day, it's just an average show with nothing special to offer other than easily achieved popularity. If it's your thing, cool, but I don't think it's very hard to see why people don't like this show. I'm not just talking about the "incest is bad" criticisms, which I sympathize with, but at this point, criticizing this author for writing incest is just a waste of time. This show is just one big "whatever" in glossy packaging. |
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