Mini Game v4: Higurashi no Naku Koro Night Mafia | Game End

Fo said:

yurkin said:
#915 @Fo
I don't think we are both the same alignment, expecially after day3. You conveniently stick to the insane cop explanation, wonder why no one even considered paranoid cop. Why is unlikely?

Fo said:
Nobody believed mishu because I didn't believe mishu because -- there wasn't a counterclaim for a while -- and they called me non-town when I'm in fact town.

You can sympathize with that right, logic?

Massclaim will help because I already know why the setup was labeled bastard. If the rest of you know that it's because there's an insane cop then this becomes a lot easier on everybody .

Other reasons why Mishu should have gotten lynched:
1) This isn't how you respond to someone you have a cop guilty on.
2) His claim was clearly a fakeclaim
3) No cop, even in bastard games, immediately doubts their own sanity (this looks a lot like Mishu's backup plan after I flip town)
4) Why did he wait for phraze to make a case and park on me to vote me?
5) All the other stuff I've said.

Fo said:
I'd PREFER that wen/phraze claim first now that I'm thinking about it.

Fo said:
My kneejerk is like "why the fuck did they kill the person trying to look like a role and not the claimed cop"

Gwendolly said:


I dont really get the self-checking part either. Is that considered normal to investigate yourself? Why wouldnt they know if they're insane or not?

@Mishukax you said you thought mafia would kill yurkin that night, but why do you want to see them lynched today? You're contradicting yourself!

Fo said:
Logic really look at my post on mishu and ask yourself is that a person who genuinely thought someone wsa trying to fake a guilty on them or not? You need to look at a person's conviction. Yea I've been wrong on a lot of shit but that's the thing. Town are wrong a lot more often than scum because scum know who's town and not.

Why do I bother with that post if I'm scum and know that mishu is town? Ya know what I mean?

I do sympathize with you; I've been in your shoes your hungry for answers and I'm confusing as fuck I bet literally none of you actually get me and that's what makes it hard. I'm just trying to solve the game.

Mishu not dying lends even more credence to the fact that scum didn't care about his results as well, something I brought up earlier but didn't mention today.

Like the only way scum don't block/kill a claimed cop is if there's the possiblity they get lynched (push based on fo's wrongness) and their results aren't going to hurt them immediately.

What did you think of phrazes vote on mishu the start of day 2/3 I think it was? Because that's the scum vote.

Fo said:
You've seen the show; you tell me who makes sense to bond the hearts of two other people. :p

Also, since there's a godfather I'm not gonna account for any other investigation shenanigans. Insane cop is in the game so the godfather doesn't get cleared and coast to a win methinks. Easiest explanation is often the right one.

Fo said:
You've seen the show; you tell me who makes sense to bond the hearts of two other people. :p

Also, since there's a godfather I'm not gonna account for any other investigation shenanigans. Insane cop is in the game so the godfather doesn't get cleared and coast to a win methinks. Easiest explanation is often the right one.

logic340 said:
No one that is why I feel it could very well be a fake claim.

Fo said:
Why would togs and I as a scumteam fakeclaim something that doesn't make sense with flavor?

Fo said:
The problem with speccing this loverize as well; is that lovers are a common mafia term. There could be another flavor reason associated with why we're "bonded" or die at the same time.

Another reason why massclaim would help; we can get a better gauge if there's things in play with conventional names and how they fit to characters and all that stuff.

I'd rather get this out of the way now; so that when it comes time for deadline rush we can focus primarily on scumhunting.

yurkin said:
#931 @logic340
Ok, I'll tell,
D2 the conversation with fo really irked me, it did take me quite some time to calm down. got mingrena due to it, could not concentrate on the game. failed to prove my statement why I think fo is scum. asked myself if I have the right to vote in that case. did not voted.
D3 my suspects at time have been Togs>>Mishu
I voted Togs. Crossbell question #693; I take my time thinking about it; reading Togs posts; couldn't prove it; unvoted it; There wasn't enough reasons to vote for mishu since he could have as well told the truth about his claim (we saw it were true after n3);

After D3, and Fo behavior, tunneling on holo; his suspect list of holo, crossbell and phraze, (I'd be really surprised now if phraze is scum,)
There are contradicting things in fo's posts, I need to search through d3 to find the exact posts.

I apologise if my reasons not to vote are not what you expected.

yurkin said:
#931 @logic340
Ok, I'll tell,
D2 the conversation with fo really irked me, it did take me quite some time to calm down. got mingrena due to it, could not concentrate on the game. failed to prove my statement why I think fo is scum. asked myself if I have the right to vote in that case. did not voted.
D3 my suspects at time have been Togs>>Mishu
I voted Togs. Crossbell question #693; I take my time thinking about it; reading Togs posts; couldn't prove it; unvoted it; There wasn't enough reasons to vote for mishu since he could have as well told the truth about his claim (we saw it were true after n3);

After D3, and Fo behavior, tunneling on holo; his suspect list of holo, crossbell and phraze, (I'd be really surprised now if phraze is scum,)
There are contradicting things in fo's posts, I need to search through d3 to find the exact posts.

I apologise if my reasons not to vote are not what you expected.

Fo said:
Another question; are scum more likely to death tunnel town or just completely dodge the entire day?

Fo said:
I tunnel sometimes. Especially around here because I like to get my scumreads lynch and narrow down poe and walls weren't working because nobody was reading my posts. :p

Fo said:
Again; I'm human and allowed to be wrong. Holo didn't look town at all all she did was post once per day, flail a little bit when pushed by cross and then give up with an omgus vanity vote. I'd rather PoE something like that out rather than most people.

Gwendolly said:
Ayy! Welcome back logic, I see already alot of input from you! :D I like how Crossbell sacrificed himself because he was just confused in the end xD I guess it was a good replacement^^
Okay, gonna backread now.

Gwendolly said:
Ayy! Welcome back logic, I see already alot of input from you! :D I like how Crossbell sacrificed himself because he was just confused in the end xD I guess it was a good replacement^^
Okay, gonna backread now.

Phraze said:

if Yurkin was sheeping, why did u say she was "pulling a phraze" and that I turned out town too? trying to shade/unshade her? u both were present during endphase, but u jumped on the wagon. now u say just cuz Yurkin didn't follow u it makes her scummy?
only 1 townie scumread u, Fo had few townies scumreading him. which has the lower risk? thinking out of the box means adding u in

flavor text said bodyguard was lost during last phase, that's why the protection didn't activate. pretty sure it has a condition, like misreading someone will result in a miss. the host said this game won't be too bastard, so I doubt there's any fake roles.

logic340 said:
Based on what I have seen going on around here I wouldn't be surprised if you guys had lynched Crossbell today so I believe his sacrifice was an attempt to get the town to act together since there would be one person that could be trusted.

logic340 said:

@Gwendolly how do you feel about the Crossbell flip? You called him scum for voting you but from what I see that vote seems well placed. Your not looking very townie right now and it's more than the votes that have all been on townies.

Gwendolly said:


Yea tbh, I was planning that too. Because of his "I'm all confused" statement and I dont believe him anymore when he says that xD Good thing he did use his skill or it would have looked bad for him the next day, it was used at the right time. I'm also glad Mishu turned out to be the cop after all, well okay it's a shame too that we dont have them around anymore to tell us further results and we dont know if he was insane or not. But the two "non-town" results two times in a row, you think he was THAT lucky? Or could it be fake? Because then we should look deeper into Fo and yurkin instead.

Gwendolly said:


I dont remember calling him scum. And I dont remember him voting for me. If you mean Mishu then I already gave my oppinion.

Phraze said:
@logic340

Wen: town to me. he pointed to Tenshi as suspect for townreading early in the game. but he confronts accusations or doubts instead of letting it float by.

Mishu: Cross said insane cop is likely, meaning their investigations will give opposite results. that's why scum didn't bother roleblocking him after claiming cop, since his first result on Fo was twisted to begin with. so his check on Yurkin is probably a towncheck. he checked on Fo and Yurkin.

Fo: I can't say he is out of my suspect list, but he's more town to me now. everything he's been doing is driving him to the wall in the end. I doubt scum will allow that to happen, and if it were scumbuds, the other will push a lynch for towncred. every kill or mislynch even leads back to him, too convenient. so far Fo's been useful as bait in this game....no offense. but a mislynch on him won't be a waste.

Gwen: Suzune had a scumread on her, could be why she was killed. Gwen is prob a good scum player, killing suspicions while it's still unnoticed. Suzune also pointed out Gwen has been critiquing posts/ppl rather than making her own observations. delay tactic from scum is probable.

Togs: I'm positive about him. he wanted Fo to claim but not himself. this means it's scum hiding behind a townie. being role connected doesn't mean the other isn't scum. if Togs was sure that Fo was scum, he would've pushed the lynch anyway. Fo didn't mind lynching Togs, on the other hand. lol

my suspects and pretty confirmed, are Gwen and Togs.

logic340 said:
Sorry after looking back it was Mishu and not Cross. Do you know what number post your answer was on so I can look at it?

wen294 said:
Hmm does changing vote from Fo to Togs even matter? They die at the same time anyway.

Gwendolly said:


Yea I think so, Togs mentioned that somewhere. So we have to be careful. Been also I think over a day, that he last said something. Not sure if scum would just disappear

@Togs déjavu

wen294 said:
Hmm does changing vote from Fo to Togs even matter? They die at the same time anyway.

wen said:
Also i'm okey with claiming, but only when it's needed. I'd rather not claim for no real reason in the middle of the day. Besides the fact that i think it's pretty common knowledge that mass-claiming isn't really a great idea.

wen said:
I also really don't like how we've found 0 Third party roles up 'till now, because they should be in this game somewhere.

wen said:
Imo it's possible that Fo is scum and Yurkin is third party and that Mishu turned out to be a normal cop after all. We should consider this when Fo x Togs pair flip.

wen said:
Also as for Togs, i'm not even sure if that guy is still making the activity requirements for the game.... Which is kinda sad. The feeling it gave when he's got good town cred on D1 and then does NOTHING with it just really irks me. Did the guy only care for the town cred and not for actually catching scum or something?

Fo said:
Why do you think either of us are scum?

Fo said:
Mishu getting non-town results means that we should expect a thirdy party. One at most.

We should be looking for actual mafia, though. At the moment they are the largest threat because if this setup is balanced there's two left and they win on a mislynch today.

Have you read my stuff on why it's very unlikely for me to be scum?


A godfather existing would make a paranoid cop meaningless. Yurkin and I are almost certainly the same alignment.

I agree that togs probably doesn't care about this game. Whether he's town or scum is still up for debate.

ANOTHER reason for massclaim is that we can probably find the TP role if there is one depending on how weird things get.

Balls in your court wen.

Togs said:
Hello, sorry about that I'm here again now.