| Shoot one hour until deadline. Let me catch up and post a reads list. |
Astros said: While I'd say the game is just starting it's definitely past randomness at this point. Looking back on Day 1 it appeared to me to be a bigger mess than I first thought. Random voting, weak town claims, suspicion based solely on play style and gut feeling, repeated questions and ignored answers. Personally I think not much can be gained from it other than the mafia kill and voting counts. Town should really focus its efforts on reading D2 and beyond even though D2 isn't shaping up to be all that much better. That and we have two new replacements to consider.The game is definitely out of it’s early stages at this point, so I’d like to know your outlook of it. Moving onto my vote, considering how late it is I can't really push for anyone, but I've considered the current lynch targets. Fo, I feel is asking too many questions at times, especially when they've already been answered previously by other users or those he's asked. But, I don't think that necessarily paints him as mafia. A few others have done the same. I think his disregard for certain aspects of posts comes from being too confident in his abilities. Fo said: And like I was telling astros himself earlier or attempting to. If you're good; you don't always see day 2 if you're real good you never do as town so kind of make it a habit of being able to weed out scum in a pinch with not a lot to go on. Him being new might lean more forgivable falling into that thought process. Fo said: Phraze said: No that's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that it's more fair for a newb to not understand questions and more scummy for someone like you who wants to call themselves good to not understand where obvious town motivation lies in the answers and followups I've made to my questions. Something that logic got a glimps of but never a full taste thanks to fo's schedule.5. u said Logic doubted u, now u are saying that he misread ur experienced scumhunting. why is that? I feel these posts show that in how he mentions skill repeatedly when it comes to explaining misunderstandings. Though, his reasons when voting also seem to take assumptions for granted. If not careful he could be used by the mafia through power of suggestion to direct suspicion/lynches. But , that's purely speculation and not conjecture. Yurkin seems to be a discussion topic of Fo and Phaze along with Logic and Tenshii who is no longer here. He hasn't posted or done enough to warrant attention which in itself is something, but not much. Sure, the inexperienced vibe he gives could be a ruse, but there's no real way of telling short of accusing him solely based on activity. Holocaster is similar to Yurkin in that they don't post as often as other users. They seem to share a similar outlook on the happenings of D1 with me and who they suspect. Beyond that I haven't seen them vote beyond random. I would have to go back through their votes and judge them to get any kind of town/mafia opinion. The majority of my attention has been on those who post the most. Mishukax is in the same pool as Holocaster and Yurkin, but he is more apt to vote and give his opinion even if it is vague at times. He actively questions and talks to those he votes unlike some, so seems to care more generally about his vote. Barring the late D1 shift I don't have a lot of behavior from him to suspect mafia. But obviously that doesn't indicate I trust him as town either. Wen and Gwen have consistently only challenged reads from what I've seen. They ask questions every so often and stated their opinions, but beyond that I don't feel they've contributed much aside from the random vote or pressure. Which, I'm not much worried about as they seem baseless or supported by weak reasons. But, I am worried about is someone tipping the scales near the end of the voting phase in order to lynch a town. I find it interesting no one has brought up Logic's trap ability yet. If the mafia opened a poisoned one they'd be wanting to make use of their vote today before they die. As for the rest of you, Togs, Phraze, Suzune-chan, and Crossbell. I haven't concluded a worthwhile opinion based on your behavior. Suzune-chan and Crossbell as they're fresh replacements, Phraze as I'll have to trudge through the back and forth conversation with them and Fo. Togs as you're the last one out in who's I've been looking at today. |
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| Right, who to vote for. I'd forgotten in my rush to get the above post out. I don't really know outside of random voting which would just be taking a shot in the dark. If I was going to do that I would have started from the beginning with it so I guess I'll abstain. |
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Holocaster said: Why is Tenshii scum when he was the counterwagon to Sithis? Why is Phraze scum, when she voted Sithis early in the game?Tenshii (Now Crossbell) Phraze |
| Townreads are Togs, Holo, Phraze, yurkin, Fo, and Astros. My PoE is Suzune-chan Gwendolly wen294 Mishukax Willing to place my vote on any of those four. |
| I'm here, will be here for EoD, backreading |
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| I'm here too |
| <3 |
🏯🎆 Vote Count 2.5 🏯🎆 💣 Fo 💣 (2) // 🔪Phraze, Mishukax🔪 💣Astros💣 (2) // 🔪Gwendolly,wen294🔪 Holocaster (1) // 🔪Togs🔪 Mishukax (1) // 🔪Fo🔪 wen294 (1) // 🔪Crossbell🔪 🚩Not Voting🚩: ⚔ Astros, , Holocaster, Suzune-chan, yurkin ⚔ |
JackritoNov 20, 2016 4:54 PM
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| I love Astros' post, except this: Astros said: Holocaster is similar to Yurkin in that they don't post as often as other users. They seem to share a similar outlook on the happenings of D1 with me and who they suspect. You keep on not voting, which is fair to some extent, but you're implying that you have suspects, so I'm wondering if you will only vote when you're certain (or close to it) that someone is town. |
| I'm on my phone right now btw >.> Change vote: Mishukax As I said I'm between Mishu and Holo, Holo's recent posts have kind of pinged me as towny ? I like the effort involved at least and I think my preference right now is Mishu. |
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| Sheep. Unvote; vote Mishukax |
| Shall I claim? |
| Claiming would be solid, yes. |
| (I've been recovering from my flight, so I haven't really had time to look at the game-state besides what I read in my catch up. I'll provide more detailed analysis at Night or the next Day) |
| Yeah it's a 3 way between Fo Astros and Mishu right now. Let me just say there should be no way Fo gets lynched here. Thinking about Astros idk the way they are avoiding directly pushing anyone is scummy but they don seem to be trying to avoid the spotlight, rather trying to contribute to the game in their own way ? That doesn't strike me as scummy. @Crossbell @Gwendolly you guys willing to wagon Mishu with me ? |
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| Yes claim, was just gonna ask that |
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| I am the investigator. I checked Fo N1 and he came back as "non-town". Reasons to believe Fo is town: this is a bastard set-up, I could have the Insane modifier. Reasons to believe my results are not wrong: the godfather's investigation-proof ability. |
| I voted Mishukax. I don't really understand the mindset of voting Togs when Sithis was wagonned, but w/e. I have a lot of townreads, and that alone is sufficient for me to vote Mishukax in order to narrow down the gamestate. The Astros/Sithis interaction, if I squint, do not feel like they come from buddies. |
| Hm. Togs, given that you are defending Fo, what are your thoughts on this? |
| God I so hope you are gambiting here. I still stand by this, Fo cannot be lynched toDay. I need you all to trust me on this. I will say more if I absolutely have to |
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Mishukax said: Something akin to that. Since I don't know anyone's play styles nor how mafia would typically operate in a role madness game I'm mainly concerned with behavior. But so far most behavior is either consistent, reasonably understandable, or orderly if a bit chaotic. Essentially everyone is a suspect until they exhibit something to put them in one category or another. With Gwen and Wen they seem to be harming the trust between towns by taking a poke at the claims, but that may be their habit or not their intention. I really didn't garner anything from D1 and am scrapping D2 to build a basis.You keep on not voting, which is fair to some extent, but you're implying that you have suspects, so I'm wondering if you will only vote when you're certain (or close to it) that someone is town. |
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Crossbell said: Togs, given that you are defending Fo, what are your thoughts on this? We have 7 minutes. |
| Remove your votes on me, if you keep me alive, I will at least have to possibility of figuring out whether I'm Insane or not, and so whether Fo is non-town or not. |
Mishukax said: I am the investigator. I checked Fo N1 and he came back as "non-town". Reasons to believe Fo is town: this is a bastard set-up, I could have the Insane modifier. Reasons to believe my results are not wrong: the godfather's investigation-proof ability. It didnt say "mafia"? Whats your char name? |
| <3 |
| I would be willing to lynch Mishukax to see if he is telling the truth or not. If he is, then we will lynch Fo immediately on Day 3. If not, then we will have bagged a scum or Mishukax is insane, which will confirm Fo as town. |
| change vote: Holo Not gonna lynch un CC'd cop but if he does get CC'd we'll destroy him toMorrow |
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Gwendolly said: Mishukax said: I am the investigator. I checked Fo N1 and he came back as "non-town". Reasons to believe Fo is town: this is a bastard set-up, I could have the Insane modifier. Reasons to believe my results are not wrong: the godfather's investigation-proof ability. It didnt say "mafia"? Whats your char name? No it didn't. Ooishi Kuraudo. Literally the detective in the series. |
| Mod: Vote count? I don't really want to lynch Holo but her scumreads are very confusing. |
| @Fo I never said much since near voting activity is better. u have good points on Mish, but mafia have little to no daring to RVS the boss. I'm also suspicious of Holo, RVS for first time(?) and scumreads active hunters. Tenshi was the one who townread Yurkin, but she is now in the nearscum list with me. Cross hasn't done anything much to go into the negative at all. Togs also seem suspicious for being too 'chummy' with negative points from others. there's no reading at all. Togs, Holo, and Fo are my suspects. Astros hasn't done much yet, but it's too early to say. this behavior could be a reserve tactic. Gwen and the others, too early to say. |
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Crossbell said: I would be willing to lynch Mishukax to see if he is telling the truth or not. That doesn't achieve anything. The point is to figure out whether I'm insane or not. |
| Three-way tie right now I believe. I could break it. |
| Mmm. I'll leave him for the Night. Unvote; vote Holo I would consider wen though; his "why do you have too many townreads" question reeks of opening up the PoE. |
| change vote: Mishu |
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| change vote: Astros |
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| FO NEEDS TO LIVE REALLY BADLY GUYS |
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| ⌛️ TIME! ⌛️ |
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| Looking forward to this flip. Looking forward to getting demolished tonight, too. I managed to get scum/neut-read by some players, so I was comfortable for night phases, but now bleh. |
| Sorry, I couldnt really help :( I will truly make up for it tonight! |
| <3 |
| Ok I have have miscounted the votes there and messed up me and Cross switching to each other's wagons really freaked me out so I jumped on the third option, godammit I hope we at least hit a neutral |
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Togs said: FO NEEDS TO LIVE REALLY BADLY GUYS Do you say this because you believe he is a townie? |
| Rena, won't you take me home? |
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Mishukax said: Togs said: FO NEEDS TO LIVE REALLY BADLY GUYS Do you say this because you believe he is a townie? I don't know his alignment. |
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Do you know something about his abilities? Do you want him alive because he is a good asset for town? |
| If someone is a secret doublevoter I swear.. |
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Mishukax said: Do you know something about his abilities? Do you want him alive because he is a good asset for town? There is a non-behavior related reason, and there is also a reason I'm not saying more. |
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🏯🎆 Final Vote count 🏯🎆 💣Astros💣 (3) // 🔪Gwendolly,wen294,Togs🔪 Fo (2) // 🔪Phraze, Mishukax🔪 Holocaster (1) // 🔪Crossbell🔪 Mishukax (1) // 🔪Fo🔪 🚩Not Voting🚩: ⚔ Astros, , Holocaster, Suzune-chan, yurkin ⚔ That should be right phase will take a bit. |
JackritoNov 22, 2016 5:39 AM
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Togs said: There is a non-behavior related reason, and there is also a reason I'm not saying more. Alright. Let's leave it at that. That was a fun endphase, definitely more telling than D1's. |
| So many that not voted D: |
| <3 |
| Well damn, I thought Holo was getting lynched. Guess we lost a townie afterall. |
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