Theories/Debates (Spoilers)

LeeNoriega said:

We have yet to see who caused everyone to die. But wasn't it Hyakuya Sect? Because they unleashed Yohane no Yon-kishi and apparently that other virus. It definitely weren't Hiiragi. Didn't the vampires say that human laid their hands on something that must not be touched, and feared the end of the world as well? They fought Hyakuya Sect only.

LeeNoriega said:


I must have have missed the info about the virus =.='' I read all the volumes in Japanese so it took a bit to get accustomed to the writing style. Although the way it's written in Japanese is so stupidly simple a high schooler could write that, honestly speaking. If it were not for the storyline I would've dropped it.

Hmm, I'm too lazy to look for the first volume in my closet but I don't think Saitou said more than that. He never told more than just enough to get Guren's attention.

Wait, my apologies, it was not Asuramaru who said that he used to be human before, it was Guren's demon, Noya. So it only makes sense that Asuramaru was a living... thing? before he turned into a demon.
I've just reread manga, and remember how Kureto experimented on thirsty vampires trying to turn them into demons? My guess is that only vampires and humans that sold their souls to demons (like Mahiru) can turn into demons.

Honestly speaking, even though there are already 5 volumes (and Kureto fighting Mahiru o nthe cover of the latest volume, a showdown I really wanted to see but didn't happen), in my opinion they are more focused on the development of Guren's character rather than various revelations. They do throw in some info here and there, but it's far from being enough.
The last 2 (or even 3) volumes looked as if they were concentrating on Kureto/Guren/Guren's friends.

Mito's strong but rather pointless atm because she's way into Guren. I personally love Goshi in LN though. As for Shinya, he's more interesting in manga.

As for the possible spy, yes, indeed Kureto wants to destroy vampires but what if Ferid only wanted to get rid of Krul with the help of humans? Like Kureto has said himself, even though vampires are so strong and there are so many nobles, they barely cooperate, so that's their weakness. I think Crawley already started to suspect Ferid and humans. This is my guess but I suspect that Ferid is not as bad and as stupid as to cooperate with humans just to kill Krul as his main objective. Even though I dislike him, I don't think his goals are as childish as Kureto's xD I for once when surprised when I read Kureto and Guren's conversation about their goals, more ike dissappointed in Kureto. He's a very interesting character in the LN so I was curious what his primary goals are but.... masaka ne.

I wonder when we'll get the next volume of the LN. I can't wait. I read all of the volumes within just one week, lol. It a looot better than manga, although you need to read both to get the whole picture.

sunny-j said:
Stop the topics about any romance ok. Time for theories, questions without answers, endless debates... This contains heavy spoilers, please refrain from reading if you're going to shit on my face for spoiling.

1 - We know that the vampires have names such as Felid, Crowley, Lacus... then we have our kids, Yuichiro, Akane, Shinoa... MIKAELA. Mikaela has blue eyes and blonde hair, which doesn't seem like a recurring thing. So, what's up with Mikaela "Shindo" (his name before Hyakuya)? Was Mikaela 100% human (not including the Seraph experiment) before Krul made him a vampire? Thus, why were Yuu's parents calling Yuu a demon when he was a child? How did they know, before he actually get the Seraph?!

2 - HEAVY SPOILERS FROM THE LIGHT NOVEL


3 - Yu and Mika are the Seraph of the End, but what actually happens when Mika goes into Seraph mode since he is a vampire? Mika and Yuu are the only one left of the Hyakuya Seraph experiment (not sure?? the wikia says otherwise) so, is Mika the other half needed so that the Seraph of the End actually happens and
(LN spoiler)

Ok I'm stopping here because my mind is so troubled about Owari no Seraph. I do not read the Light Novel, but I read a few things about it and these few things are difficult to assimilate to the current context of MikaYu's Seraph. There's the Hiragi issue, the Mahiru issue, the 'taboo sorcery' issue...

But yeah talk to me about your theories I love these.

PS: Don't come to me like "NO THIS IS SO WRONG YOU'RE DUMB" yes I'm dumb and I tend to forget loads of things about the manga, bear with it!

Izaya198 said:


Yuichiro IS a demon child. His parents wouldn't call him a demon if he was just misbehaving. They seemed actually terrified of him. Yuichiro is most likely Satan the fallen angel, and Mika is the archangel Michael. In the bible, Michael slayed Satan, so Mika might have to slay Yuu when he becomes fully inhuman. A very very sad ending indeed.

mira-pyon said:


This should be discussed int the LN sub-forum, but here we go :D

1) a)Mikaela has blue eyes because he's nt fully a vampires. It probably has something to do with blood being red that their eyes turn that colour. Ofc, scientifically, it's pigments, but Mika hasn't drank human blood yet so eh.

b)Also, Mika has the Seraph gene, so no, he's not 100% human before he was turned into a vamp.

c) Yuu's parents were calling him a demon because he was a troublesome child. The same thing happens to the boy MC from Kodomo no Omocha. Shindo means 'child prodigy'. He's most likely half Japanese and half English/American.

2) a) We find out about Ashuramaru later on in another volume of the LN
b) These two are correct. If you look at the sword Mahiru holds in the next episode preview, you can see that it is Ashuramaru.
c) No there isn't a link between Guren and Krul. Guren was happy to see the Seraph because


3) Mika can't go into Seraph mode because he hasn't taken the drug. If he went into Seraph mode, he'd most likely get white wings. The world has already come to an end, btw. Mahiru has already predicted that.


Here, answers:



Anything else you need to know?

Also, I'm speculating that Mika is Michael and Yu is Lucifer. It makes sense in a way cos
1) Mikaela is a holy name; latin for 'God's gift' or 'Gift from God'. It also looks alot like the name Michael.

2) Yu has a black wing, so it's likely he's a fallen angel. E.g Lucifer.

mikayuuvevo said:

sorry to butt in but mika doesn't have a demon inside him or formed a contract with one so he doesn't need to take the drug.....

mira-pyon said:


The drug which was given to Yuu was to accelerate the Seraph gene. Hence why Shinoa questioned Guren about it.

mikayuuvevo said:


Still not convinced because the experimentation on Mika was halted while Yuu's was continued and see how they talked about the black demon series? that drug was specially made for black demon weapon users not vampires. why would mika take a drug that may as well kill him? he's a vampire not a human with a demon inside of him.

mira-pyon said:


Why are you picking at what's not there to pick at?

Mika's experimentation was halted because he was away from the Demon Army. Not to mention that the Hyakuya sect was deaded, so if him, Yuu and their family were to have stayed in Sanguiem, their bodies will remain 90% humans.


They were not talking about the blackdemon series. Please read the texts carefully.
"You told me that, because his black demon series is special I need to give him a special mix of drugs"
Now lets get this straight. Asura is special, but Shii-chan(Shinoa's Demon) is also special in the same way.
Shinoa asking why she had to give Yuu a special mix of drugs means she herself doesn't get it. Therefore it cannot be for the Demon series. And it is obviously not for Yuu's demon.

And please read Guren's expressions properly. He's clearly hiding something. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the drug was for the Seraph gene. Everyone else has got it. Why have you not?

Mika wouldn't take a drug that could kill him. I'm saying that, before his eyes turned red and all that crap, if he were to take the drug, the Seraph gene might've accelerated like it did with Yuu.

The drug is for the Seraph gene, not the Demon series. Please understand that because I'm not willing to argue or theorise with someone who doesn't have reading comprehension.

mikayuuvevo said:


Now was that so hard? patience is key when it comes to explaining stuff like this jfc.

Yes i know that son of a gun's hiding something because he's one of the shadiest characters in the series and just wants to use Yuu as a weapon.

That's what i said and i don't think it would've because once again the JIDA work with demons not vampires, if Mika would've taken it who knows what would've happened because the drug was compatible with Yuu's body since it was made for him but not Mika who's of a different race, can you comprehend where i'm trying to get at?

mira-pyon said:

It was said when the Hyakuya Sect first attacked the school, tho. Saito himself told Guren that the Hiiragis had created a virus and were going to unleash it. And that's from the verified translation. It also makes sense, cos the Hiiragis ad their Branches are the ones with the cure and survived the virus perfectly fine.