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Mar 29, 2015 11:56 AM

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music, acting, way of turning the scene were well handled by ufo in FSN just compare the way Shirou Act it's not Dumb.

>_> well it seems that without those 90 min this anime has become the devil...
Mar 29, 2015 12:04 PM

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Yes, Shirou is not dumb, sure, even though Rin yells at him about everything he does and treats him like an idiot all the time. So far it was bad, but this will be the worst one yet:
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ayy lmao
Mar 29, 2015 3:07 PM

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Who Said Rin was the voice of truth ?! Rin's fanboy ?! Damn it, you do realized that you are actually judging shirou's character because of Rin's Reaction ?! WTF ?!

So if Rin says this and that about Shirou, then he must totally be a dumbass (despite the fact, that well he clearly is not, and that she never qualify him as such...)
Mar 29, 2015 3:08 PM

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Sephcloud said:
Who Said Rin was the voice of truth ?! Rin's fanboy ?! Damn it, you do realized that you are actually judging shirou's character because of Rin's Reaction ?! WTF ?!

So if Rin says this and that about Shirou, then he must totally be a dumbass (despite the fact, that well he clearly is not, and that she never qualify him as such...)


Rin so far has yet to display her flaws in anime.
BEcause most of them were from Shirou POV or in his trolling and were cut.
Mar 29, 2015 3:16 PM

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CookingPriest said:
Sephcloud said:
Who Said Rin was the voice of truth ?! Rin's fanboy ?! Damn it, you do realized that you are actually judging shirou's character because of Rin's Reaction ?! WTF ?!

So if Rin says this and that about Shirou, then he must totally be a dumbass (despite the fact, that well he clearly is not, and that she never qualify him as such...)


Rin so far has yet to display her flaws in anime.
BEcause most of them were from Shirou POV or in his trolling and were cut.

AHA

ahahahahaha

Ok what ?!

Prologue: Rin fucked up her summoning
she fucked up to discover all the master in school because of some classic assumption that i don't see any mages, not totally her fault but still
she fucked up of healing shirou without thinking that lancer would come back and kill him

And then
she underestimated Shinji (well ok he was a dumbass)
the plan to beat kuzuki was fucked up...
She attacks Shirou then decide to ally with him (not gonna criticize that, it makes sense with the character)
but she is NOT flawless at all, and we can already see that.

Shirou's trolling were cut, fair enough, does that make it a Bad anime, don't think so, did the character of shirou has been torn to pieces, hell no !
and to be honest, it's not even an aspect of the character that I as a vn reader memorized.

i more remembered him in the vn to be very straight with tohsaka

oh yeah and also she is fucking impulsive when it comes to relationship with someone

it's not BAD for the character, because it makes her human and all but it's flaw, as shirou has flaw of being faithful to his ideal that HAS BEEEN CLEARLY SHOWN DAMN IT
no it's not a flaw, it's more the consequence of his decision that makes it more complex but it's not BAD.
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Mar 29, 2015 3:19 PM

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Rin has displayed her flaws.

Allying and taking advice from Shirou / letting people live / challening Illya to a fight / valuing a relationship with shirou over maintaing her relationship with archer (keeping him away at times when her life could be in danger, thus relying on shirou)
Mar 29, 2015 3:21 PM

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Grapekiwi said:
Rin has displayed her flaws.

Allying and taking advice from Shirou / letting people live / challening Illya to a fight / valuing a relationship with shirou over maintaing her relationship with archer (keeping him away at times when her life could be in danger, thus relying on shirou)


THANK YOU good sir. your mustache is welcomed.
Mar 30, 2015 3:52 AM

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CookingPriest said:
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This. This above all I'm rather sore about. Miura not using Ever-present Feeling in the GY scene is ridiculous. Really, EpF spoils the mood? Really Miura?

I say he's just trying to feed his ego and make his adaptation unique and different and stuff. But when you take out an iconic track and put nothing in its place, you're asking for a disaster.


There was already a person who made FSN adaptation be "unique" and "original"...

it was called DEEN FSN.


lol, unique and original, F/SN DEEN ? because the extra scenes to cover the lack of UBW and HF ? even if was well made, Fate route is far the worst route.
Mar 30, 2015 4:14 AM

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ZangetsuPriest said:
CookingPriest said:


There was already a person who made FSN adaptation be "unique" and "original"...

it was called DEEN FSN.


lol, unique and original, F/SN DEEN ? because the extra scenes to cover the lack of UBW and HF ? even if was well made, Fate route is far the worst route.


WEll ufoubw is no different.

- Incomprehensible without VN knowledge
- Pointless "nods" to Zero
- Misrepresented Shirou
- Shirou being made to look like dense hardheaded idiot.
- Archer wank and Seiba wank
- No explanation on lore and mechanics.
- Stuff that contradicts the canon.

At least this time Natsu did not take 10 years to call it non canon.
Mar 30, 2015 4:45 AM

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CookingPriest said:
ZangetsuPriest said:


lol, unique and original, F/SN DEEN ? because the extra scenes to cover the lack of UBW and HF ? even if was well made, Fate route is far the worst route.


WEll ufoubw is no different.

- Incomprehensible without VN knowledge


CookingPriest said:
ZangetsuPriest said:


lol, unique and original, F/SN DEEN ? because the extra scenes to cover the lack of UBW and HF ? even if was well made, Fate route is far the worst route.


WEll ufoubw is no different.

- Incomprehensible without VN knowledge


It is not, it doesn't have all the VN details, but the essencial still there, even more if F/Z watchers watched Eizbern Consultation Room (i doubt they did)
- Pointless "nods" to Zero


F/SN VN is full of reference to the 4th Holy Grail War, and the added scenes is not pointless since Kirei is a minor antagonistic here, and DEEN didn't make any F/Z adaptation, F/Z started at the very end of 2006, after the DEEN anime aired.
and added scenes was writed by Nasu.
- Misrepresented Shirou

I already talked about that, but you just ignored what i said.
- Shirou being made to look like dense hardheaded idiot.

and he is many times in the VN, but still he is a well developed character.
- Archer wank and Seiba wank

wtf that even mean
- No explanation on lore and mechanics.

Already replied
- Stuff that contradicts the canon.

explain further

and that needs VN knowledge.

At least this time Natsu did not take 10 years to call it non canon.

he didn't say that was non-canon, he just said that Ufo UBW happens on a different timeline than VN F/SN, which makes sense since there is added scenes writed by Nasu himself.
Mar 30, 2015 4:56 AM

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xShigarakix said:
noncanon lmao according from BL nasu stated UBW plays in a AU but it is canon


AU to Nasuverse = Canaan = Non canon

Prillya is more canon than this shiz.
Mar 30, 2015 6:08 AM

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C'mon Fai, if Carnival Phantasm can be canon so can this.

EVERYTHING is canon in the Nasuverse.
Mar 30, 2015 6:16 AM

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astroprogs said:
C'mon Fai, if Carnival Phantasm can be canon so can this.

EVERYTHING is canon in the Nasuverse.


CP has a reason to be a whacky ass shit. As in lore reason.
Mar 30, 2015 7:58 AM

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CookingPriest said:
astroprogs said:
C'mon Fai, if Carnival Phantasm can be canon so can this.

EVERYTHING is canon in the Nasuverse.


CP has a reason to be a whacky ass shit. As in lore reason.

Nasu gave this one its excuse too.
Mar 30, 2015 8:31 AM

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Zelretch 2nd magic (and the Akasha concept) makes everything "canon", Canaan is not Canon because its a extra scenario from another VN.

to be not canon Nasu have to say that its not, otherwise there is no proof.
Mar 30, 2015 8:35 AM

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CookingPriest said:
xShigarakix said:
noncanon lmao according from BL nasu stated UBW plays in a AU but it is canon


AU to Nasuverse = Canaan = Non canon

Prillya is more canon than this shiz.


cry more nasu never stated is noncanon deal with it or fuck off
Mar 30, 2015 8:39 AM
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xShigarakix said:
CookingPriest said:


AU to Nasuverse = Canaan = Non canon

Prillya is more canon than this shiz.


cry more nasu never stated is noncanon deal with it or fuck off
Watch your language.
Mar 30, 2015 8:42 AM

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June93 said:
xShigarakix said:


cry more nasu never stated is noncanon deal with it or fuck off
Watch your language.


so its ok when he can attack/insult other people but im not. ok
Mar 30, 2015 8:46 AM
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xShigarakix said:
June93 said:
Watch your language.


so its ok when he can attack/insult other people but im not. ok
Two wrongs don't make a right, so chill out.
Mar 30, 2015 8:54 AM

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Everyone needs to chill out.

Jeez I swear it wasn't this bad here 4 months ago.
Mar 30, 2015 9:40 AM

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GARBrotato said:
Everyone needs to chill out.

Jeez I swear it wasn't this bad here 4 months ago.


We did not know from prescreening what we know now.
Mar 30, 2015 11:49 AM

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What went wrong with DEEN Fate: Everything
What went wrong with ufotable Fate: Shirou

Obviously, DEEN is better.
Mar 30, 2015 11:50 AM

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Forgetfulness said:
Can't tell if everyone forgot about the Sakura-napping in DEEN-FSN or if you guys are just being stupid and blowing this way out of proportion -_-


This is no better....
Mar 30, 2015 8:40 PM

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GARBrotato said:
Everyone needs to chill out.

Jeez I swear it wasn't this bad here 4 months ago.

You have no idea how much salt there is now. It's basically hypertension on steroids.
Mar 30, 2015 11:50 PM

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So Basically some people (mostly Fai) are acting like man children. Honestly act your age and..
bruh
Mar 31, 2015 3:28 AM

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xShigarakix said:
June93 said:
Watch your language.


so its ok when he can attack/insult other people but im not. ok

He was getting at the cussing. You can retort to Fai at a more worded manner. *shrugs*
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