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May 11, 2016 12:05 PM

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DrGeroCreation said:
Tthe Golden Age characters were from Earth 2 so KaiserNazrin is most likely right about the man in the iron mask.

Which is?
May 11, 2016 12:07 PM

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tsudecimo said:
DrGeroCreation said:
Tthe Golden Age characters were from Earth 2 so KaiserNazrin is most likely right about the man in the iron mask.

Which is?
Yeah the original.
May 11, 2016 12:15 PM
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My name is Zoom and I talk like
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May 11, 2016 12:16 PM
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(shush character check, im trying to make a point here)
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I actually thought this Flash episode was really good. We got to see more of the Speed Force and how it works, but then again I'm a comic reader so that stuff probably really interests me to know that the general audience won't care about.

My only complaint was that they made the Speed Force look like humans/people Barry loved. It would have been awesome if they were just energized forms or something.

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May 11, 2016 6:51 PM

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I couldn't handle the rest of Flash honestly. I'm just waiting for the season to be over. Legends of Tomorrow I abandoned long ago.
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May 11, 2016 7:30 PM

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Legends of Tomorrow could have been so great if they just focused more on a story. It seemed like they were mostly just running around or going from one part in history to another without really accomplishing anything or finding anything out.

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May 12, 2016 12:09 AM

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I dunno what guys are on but the Flash is so great right now. The latest episode is awesome. I could just watch an episode of them doing normal thing and it will still be enjoyable because of the characters and the actors potraying them.

The Flash is miles above LoT and Arrow.

May 12, 2016 12:23 AM

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Anyone see the latest episode of Arrow? That ending!

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I dunno what guys are on but the Flash is so great right now. The latest episode is awesome. I could just watch an episode of them doing normal thing and it will still be enjoyable because of the characters and the actors potraying them.

The Flash is miles above LoT and Arrow.


I haven't really disliked any episode of The Flash so far. He even made Supergirl far more interesting (which, by the way, has a high chance of moving over to CW with the rest of Berlanti's work).

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May 12, 2016 12:51 AM

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Zoom now is just really meh and making really stupid choices , Savage and Darhk are way above him as villains.Caught up with Legends of Tomorrow and I'm really enjoying it.

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It was a bad choice but understandable and Savage could have reincarnated anyway. For me it was far more forgivable than Barry's major Zoom blunder.


This weeks episode of Arrow was pretty good. I liked how there were
Didn't care to see that anarchy guy again though.

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He even made Supergirl far more interesting (which, by the way, has a high chance of moving over to CW with the rest of Berlanti's work).
Can't forgive him for the really stupid move he pulled on Livewire. It's like thinking to put out a fire with gasoline. A scientist shouldn't be making a move like that.

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DrGeroCreation said:

This weeks episode of Arrow was pretty good. I liked how there were
Didn't care to see that anarchy guy again though.


Yea, and Zoom could have been the best villain, but they nerf'd him by making him really love Caitlyn. He could be pure evil if it wasn't for that love interest...


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May 12, 2016 1:16 AM

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@Rhaeserys It's not just that but he just isn't thinking anymore and making stupid decisions. Like he could have


Didn't even realize it had hit Russia and I could see that happening next season.
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Rhaeserys said:

My only complaint was that they made the Speed Force look like humans/people Barry loved. It would have been awesome if they were just energized forms or something.

That's exactly why it sucked, and I would preferred energy forms that spoke in a monotone voice, that would have been cool.

But they shoehorned another reason to try and make emotional scenes out of nowhere. I like emotional stuff and all, and the whole thing about Flash and his mother I found touching before (mainly because it reminded me a bit of Naruto) but this episode I felt nothing but cringe. And Barry with season 2 just became way too whiny. I don't mind characters like that but they are overusing it with Barry. Every other episode is him complaining and whining about something, and the worst part they are all repetitive and they are literally resolved in the same way, there was a whole filler episode just about this.

God I hate the actors. ''we pretty much invited tripy'' Maximum CRINGE...
May 12, 2016 1:21 AM

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Its not uncommon when an author created a villain so powerful, the only way to beat him is by making him stupid.

May 12, 2016 1:25 AM

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KaiserNazrin said:
Its not uncommon when an author created a villain so powerful, the only way to beat him is by making him stupid.
That doesn't seem to be the case with Darhk at all though.
May 12, 2016 1:26 AM

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And yeah Zoom is crap. He started out with a lot of potential and was menacing but ever since they revealed his identity, he has Bond villain stupidity.

No where as good as reverse flash. I also feel like they are wasting the only good actor in this show, Tom Cavanagh.
May 12, 2016 1:57 AM

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DrGeroCreation said:
@Rhaeserys It's not just that but he just isn't thinking anymore and making stupid decisions. Like he could have


Didn't even realize it had hit Russia and I could see that happening next season.


Oh yea, agreed, though I was under the impression he was sparing them, including Wells, because Caitlyn asked him to and he loved her. For that reason it makes sense he wouldn't kill Wells or imprison Barry, but overall it is extremely stupid and a poor writing choice. They realized they made Zoom too powerful and had to nerf him somehow...and love was the answer. lol

It hit the U.S but it came from Russia, I thought. I'll check it out again but if it hit Russia instead that could be a bit more interesting. They could make Russia go after the government or after ARGUS which in turn catches Team Arrow's attention and Russia flashbacks from Oliver (though at some point I have to wonder how he did all of this in five years).

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Rhaeserys said:

My only complaint was that they made the Speed Force look like humans/people Barry loved. It would have been awesome if they were just energized forms or something.

That's exactly why it sucked, and I would preferred energy forms that spoke in a monotone voice, that would have been cool.

But they shoehorned another reason to try and make emotional scenes out of nowhere. I like emotional stuff and all, and the whole thing about Flash and his mother I found touching before (mainly because it reminded me a bit of Naruto) but this episode I felt nothing but cringe. And Barry with season 2 just became way too whiny. I don't mind characters like that but they are overusing it with Barry. Every other episode is him complaining and whining about something, and the worst part they are all repetitive and they are literally resolved in the same way, there was a whole filler episode just about this.

God I hate the actors. ''we pretty much invited tripy'' Maximum CRINGE...


I also found the line "we pretty much invited tripy" to be very cringe worthy. I don't think it would have been so bad if the actor wasn't as terrible as he is...and agreed about Barry becoming a complainer but it is a phase (hopefully). He will get over it now that he has his speed back (and is presumable faster) and doesn't have to feel guilt anymore (at least that's how I took the whole point of the Speed Force looking like his family and whatnot).

Still a really good show even with these flaws. And I'm hoping they give Tom Cavanagh a larger role in the series. He's among my favorite characters and on the list of the best actors in the show. He deserves more spotlight.

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May 12, 2016 2:13 AM

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@Rhaeserys I thought
It doesn't make sense for him not to imprison Barry since that would be sparing him. Yeah it's just a convenient flaw to nerf Zoom. I thought it was redirected back to somewhere in Russia. Yeah it would be better that way. Well you can do a lot in 5 years.
May 12, 2016 2:30 AM

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@Rhaeserys I thought
It doesn't make sense for him not to imprison Barry since that would be sparing him. Yeah it's just a convenient flaw to nerf Zoom. I thought it was redirected back to somewhere in Russia. Yeah it would be better that way. Well you can do a lot in 5 years.



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May 12, 2016 4:20 AM
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tsudecimo said:
And yeah Zoom is crap. He started out with a lot of potential and was menacing but ever since they revealed his identity, he has Bond villain stupidity.

No where as good as reverse flash. I also feel like they are wasting the only good actor in this show, Tom Cavanagh.


Too bad season 1 threw forgettable villains at us instead of giving Thawne more screen time in his suit. I think we got to see him like 5 times in it. We've been seeing a lot Zoom lately which I like.

Watch Daredevil, you'll notice that Kingpin gets loads of screen time.
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May 12, 2016 4:25 AM

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tsudecimo said:
And yeah Zoom is crap. He started out with a lot of potential and was menacing but ever since they revealed his identity, he has Bond villain stupidity.

No where as good as reverse flash. I also feel like they are wasting the only good actor in this show, Tom Cavanagh.


Too bad season 1 threw forgettable villains at us instead of giving Thawne more screen time in his suit. I think we got to see him like 5 times in it. We've been seeing a lot Zoom lately which I like.

Watch Daredevil, you'll notice that Kingpin gets loads of screen time.

Sure season 1 had more episodic stuff but the main plotline was always solid. Well him being in a suit is part of the mystery, it only makes sense that we don't see him a lot in it, because his mystery was only revealed in the second half. His screen time was adequate

Already watched Daredevil before. King Pin is even worse than Zoom >.>
May 12, 2016 12:27 PM

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Gotta say Arrow's episode was great the build up to the final part was executed nicely.

The fighting scenes were solid too.

Also


@Unknown- Reverse Flash> Zoom they handled him better imo.
May 12, 2016 3:31 PM

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It is official—Supergirl was renewed for season 2 but moved to CW. I know that it will perform better on this channel, as well as probably actually be better. I just hope their Earths mash together or something, so that Supergirl/man can live in a world with Flash.

Also, Greg Berlanti could be directing the new Booster Gold movie. :p

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May 13, 2016 5:22 AM

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Supergirl VFX was godawful, its like watching Power Rangers, perhaps in CW hands it will get better and I would actually watch it.

May 13, 2016 1:51 PM

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@Rhaeserys I thought
It doesn't make sense for him not to imprison Barry since that would be sparing him. Yeah it's just a convenient flaw to nerf Zoom. I thought it was redirected back to somewhere in Russia. Yeah it would be better that way. Well you can do a lot in 5 years.




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May 25, 2016 12:04 AM

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Wait....
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May 25, 2016 12:54 AM

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May 25, 2016 4:51 AM

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That garbage acting. Damn.

Meh, pretty underwhelming. Doesn't really excuse the subpar second season. I think I'm done with this series. More than anything I can't handle the terrible actors.
May 25, 2016 6:23 AM

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Awesome episode. Really like how much Harry has changed and actually calls Cisco by his first name. Seeing how everything got reset, there will be another version of Harrison Wells, E1 version since Eobard never killed him this time.

Look like Zoom turned into Black Racer when the Time Wraith took him away.

May 25, 2016 9:32 AM

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LOL what's the point of season 1 and 2 after what Barry did.

The second half of the season was pretty meh and underwhelming and my enjoyment decreased. Zoom for me was the biggest dissapointments of the seaon.

Season 1>Season 2 by a mile.

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Look like Zoom turned into Black Racer when the Time Wraith took him away.

Black Flash*. Yeah I noticed that too and actually thought it was cool that they did that.
May 25, 2016 9:03 PM

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(definitely Black Flash reference)

I hope Tom continues on in the show. I don't even care how at this point. Also, agree about that s1 > s2 but I still really enjoyed s2 despite its weak points. I honestly think Barry is going to take his mother to the future so that technically she isn't there in the past.

I really hope season 3 won't be about a billion other speedsters. A different kind of villain would be great!

Also, anyone see the Arrow season finale?


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May 25, 2016 9:27 PM

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The Flash have to undo what he did eventually otherwise lots of thing would've been pointless like Wally and Jesse being hit by particle explosion.

I wonder if Reverse Flash would be big bad again because of this.

May 26, 2016 2:00 AM

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I honestly think Barry is going to take his mother to the future so that technically she isn't there in the past.


Why apologise to Iris, then? I think he's resetting the timeline by saving her.

Rhaeserys said:
I really hope season 3 won't be about a billion other speedsters. A different kind of villain would be great!


I agree. Speedsters are cool, but speedster vs speedster is getting a bit too repetitive. The only way I see myself accepting another speedster for a villain would be if it were an evil Barry.

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Also, anyone see the Arrow season finale?



Just finished it.
May 26, 2016 2:12 AM

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Why apologise to Iris, then? I think he's resetting the timeline by saving her.


Oh, I forgot about that...perhaps it is a preemptive "sorry" in case something went wrong? But ah, I would have liked the idea of Barry bringing her forward into time to the moment he left in the finale. :(

If he's resetting the timeline and it stays that way I am going to be so annoyed. Every episode will have been useless.

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I agree. Speedsters are cool, but speedster vs speedster is getting a bit too repetitive. The only way I see myself accepting another speedster for a villain would be if it were an evil Barry.


That would be something, for sure. If they won't do something like that or different for a speedster being the villain, I only want to see another speedster if it is Wally becoming Barry's sidekick. :P

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Just finished it.



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May 26, 2016 8:23 AM

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Grodd anyone? Maybe he is going to be the villain for season 3.
May 26, 2016 9:15 AM

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They are playing with the timeline way too much and the inconsistencies and stuff just become more and more inexcusable.

This season was a disappointment.
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May 26, 2016 12:55 PM

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Just finished Arrow and I gotta say this didn't felt as a season finale,it was I don't know like a regular episode.

The fight was kinda anticlimactic too.

Overall though that was a solid season and I liked more than season 3
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Season 4 of the Arrow wanted to make me kill myself. The Flash became soap-opera central with superheros, I couldn't go an episode without cringing from all the cliches and "plot twist". I hope flash point turns out better. Legends of Tomorrow is awful. Bad writing, directing and action. None of the time travel rules make any sense, you disappoint me Rory from Doctor Who. I'm not going to even bother watching Supergirl, the trailer told me exactly what type of audience it's catering to(the people who will like the new Ghostbusters). And Gotham is the red-headed step child, no one gives a fuck about Gotham. Know, if you excuse me I'm going to watch Daredevil, the GOOD superhero tv show, even though I heard that the second season is a little underwhelming.
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Season 4 of the Arrow wanted to make me kill myself. The Flash became soap-opera central with superheros, I couldn't go an episode without cringing from all the cliches and "plot twist". I hope flash point turns out better. Legends of Tomorrow is awful. Bad writing, directing and action. None of the time travel rules make any sense, you disappoint me Rory from Doctor Who. I'm not going to even bother watching Supergirl, the trailer told me exactly what type of audience it's catering to(the people who will like the new Ghostbusters). And Gotham is the red-headed step child, no one gives a fuck about Gotham. Know, if you excuse me I'm going to watch Daredevil, the GOOD superhero tv show, even though I heard that the second season is a little underwhelming.

Oh man Daredevil feels so lifeless and boring to me. They got the gritty style right, and the plot is good but the pacing, actors, drama and characters are infuriating.

Watch Jessica Jones.
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Tatsu765 said:
Season 4 of the Arrow wanted to make me kill myself. The Flash became soap-opera central with superheros, I couldn't go an episode without cringing from all the cliches and "plot twist". I hope flash point turns out better. Legends of Tomorrow is awful. Bad writing, directing and action. None of the time travel rules make any sense, you disappoint me Rory from Doctor Who. I'm not going to even bother watching Supergirl, the trailer told me exactly what type of audience it's catering to(the people who will like the new Ghostbusters). And Gotham is the red-headed step child, no one gives a fuck about Gotham. Know, if you excuse me I'm going to watch Daredevil, the GOOD superhero tv show, even though I heard that the second season is a little underwhelming.

Oh man Daredevil feels so lifeless and boring to me. They got the gritty style right, and the plot is good but the pacing, actors, drama and characters are infuriating.

Watch Jessica Jones.

I feel like the Daredevil manages to find some balance between the action and drama at times. The characters do annoy at most times, but they do have there moments (Fisk, Frank Castle). I'm definitely checking out Jessica Jones, I've only heard good things
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Grodd anyone? Maybe he is going to be the villain for season 3.


If they love their comic book fans any, they will consider it, at the least.

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"It's Grodd, not God"....

Anyways. Did anyone watch it last night? They ended up in 17th century feudal Japan. It wasn't that bad but I had issues with the unnecessary mix of Japanese with English. It's not like the words they used in the episode didn't have their English equivalents. I think the writers wanted to sound like they knew a few words of Japanese and just put them in. Such weebs. *facepalm*
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What if the Hokey Pokey is what it is all about?

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Have only really been watching Arrow and mostly skimming through Flash and Legends of Tomorrow. LoT somehow seems even worse than the first season, while Flash is kinda holding steady. Arrow, for now, is better than last season for me.
Oct 28, 2016 8:32 AM

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LoT got a lot better than the first season, heck I might even start to enjoy it more than the Flash if it keeps this up. I must say, I dislike the idea of replacing Earth 2 Wells with HR Wells which I don't remember which Earth he is from. Who even think its a good idea to grab a random Wells from a different universe anyway?

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LoT got a lot better than the first season, heck I might even start to enjoy it more than the Flash if it keeps this up. I must say, I dislike the idea of replacing Earth 2 Wells with HR Wells which I don't remember which Earth he is from. Who even think its a good idea to grab a random Wells from a different universe anyway?
HR is from Earth-19. We'll see how this goes. I like that Caitlyn is turning in Killer Frost. I hope she doesn't go evil like her Earth-2 counterpart.
What if the Hokey Pokey is what it is all about?

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Season 4 of the Arrow wanted to make me kill myself. The Flash became soap-opera central with superheros, I couldn't go an episode without cringing from all the cliches and "plot twist". I hope flash point turns out better. Legends of Tomorrow is awful. Bad writing, directing and action. None of the time travel rules make any sense, you disappoint me Rory from Doctor Who. I'm not going to even bother watching Supergirl, the trailer told me exactly what type of audience it's catering to(the people who will like the new Ghostbusters). And Gotham is the red-headed step child, no one gives a fuck about Gotham. Know, if you excuse me I'm going to watch Daredevil, the GOOD superhero tv show, even though I heard that the second season is a little underwhelming.


Wewlad. Talk about edge. Kids these days. Go watch the GOAT SUPAHEROOOOO SHOW EDGEDEVILLLLL.
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Oct 29, 2016 6:25 AM

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You know, I'm really enjoying season 5. I mean, it's not as good as season 2, but after that shitfest of season 4, this is pretty damn good.

Also, anyone heard of the Flash x Supergirl crossover? Apparently, it's gonna be a musical. I understand that Gustin and Benoist worked on Glee, but that does not mean Supergirl and Flash should have a fucking musical.
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You know, I'm really enjoying season 5. I mean, it's not as good as season 2, but after that shitfest of season 4, this is pretty damn good.

Also, anyone heard of the Flash x Supergirl crossover? Apparently, it's gonna be a musical. I understand that Gustin and Benoist worked on Glee, but that does not mean Supergirl and Flash should have a fucking musical.
The crossovers will be through all the CW titles...and yes, the Supergirl/Flash crossover will be a musical, sad to say. :*
What if the Hokey Pokey is what it is all about?

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no.

superheroes on tv were meant to be animated.

I never got into the live action tv shows.

and they are all low tiered sideys.

even the tv superman looked meh from super girl.

I dont follow but might watch tomorrow legends or what ever that time travelling things s2.

the shared universe is not that appealing.

gotham is kinda boring too.
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