| What are you trying to imply by wanting him to be more "mature and kick-ass?" |
| And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible. |
| .__. Eh... Motorcycle =/= more mature, and he's already at a higher level of kickass that a motorcycle would make him look less cool. |
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Forgetfulness said: >implying his decisions in the VN are not "mature" >implying UBW and 9LBW are not "kickass" uh, wot? He's probably one of those filthy casuals who's only seen the Deen adaptation. |
| And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible. |
JabonHR said: Forgetfulness said: >implying his decisions in the VN are not "mature" >implying UBW and 9LBW are not "kickass" uh, wot? He's probably one of those filthy casuals who's only seen the Deen adaptation. Nah. Just a troll; considering his join date and very first post... |
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JabonHR said: Would a casual know Raiga Fujimura?Dont remember if he was mentioned in the anime...Forgetfulness said: >implying his decisions in the VN are not "mature" >implying UBW and 9LBW are not "kickass" uh, wot? He's probably one of those filthy casuals who's only seen the Deen adaptation. A motorcycle would be useless for when they have to run through the Einzbern forest... |
ssjokg said: JabonHR said: Would a casual know Raiga Fujimura?Dont remember if he was mentioned in the anime...Forgetfulness said: >implying his decisions in the VN are not "mature" >implying UBW and 9LBW are not "kickass" uh, wot? He's probably one of those filthy casuals who's only seen the Deen adaptation. A motorcycle would be useless for when they have to run through the Einzbern forest... He was mentioned once, and was shown for a second. But that's about it. |
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hallowjoe2 said: We'll just see what the creators have in store. It was just an interesting thought, but it would be reminiscent to Saber's in Zero, only the protagonist would take the wheel. Anyway, I'm sure the creators will make this as good as or even better than Zero. ... What the fuck are you trying to say? |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
| i know for a fact that this topic will end elsewhere........................if fai appears..............XD...........................still dont like rin |
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hallowjoe2 said: You want them to give him a motorcycle just for going to school and his part time job?We'll just see what the creators have in store. It was just an interesting thought, but it would be reminiscent to Saber's in Zero, only the protagonist would take the wheel. Anyway, I'm sure the creators will make this as good as or even better than Zero. And anyway , Shirou driving it wouldnt help him much if hehad to run away from Servants and Saber using it like she did in FZ is out of the question since she can even use mana for herself. |
| Troll thread moving on |
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| Just give the motorcycle to Rider. |
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HeisenDurden said: Just give the motorcycle to Rider. Winged Horse Laser Bomb Thing > Motorcycle. |
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| Shirou hasn't gotten a motorcyclelicense. He'd get killed even more than usual. |
HeisenDurden said: Just give the motorcycle to Rider. She has Unit Pegasus. A lot better than a motorcycle. |
hallowjoe2 said: I know it's highly unlikely, but it'd also be interesting if Shirou projected, not only blades, but guns as well. Almost like his dad. Except his ability comes from his connection to swords. He has no connection to guns. Oh and Kiritsugu never projected guns. Just in case. |
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hallowjoe2 said: I know it's highly unlikely, but it'd also be interesting if Shirou projected, not only blades, but guns as well. Almost like his dad. >>>/out/ |
| And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible. |
Jody32 said: I do have hope that the characters will improve from how Fate/Zero turned out, in respect to the disaster of an adaption that was the original Fate/Stay Night. Oh yeah, a change of script writer would come in handy as well: Shirou: "People die when they are killed" -- This is the most intelligent and insightful line ever to be put to anime celluloid, NOT. This was a sub mistake wasn't it? Either way I actually would like for it to stay, as a joke. |
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| Yes, it was a sub mistake. "XYZ doesn't die even when he/she is killed" is a legit Japanese idiom and describes incredibly tough people in an exaggerating way. There is no real English equivalent and it really sounds silly out of context, but it was fact that Shirou didn't die even after receiving mortal wounds in FSN. Excluding the Dead Ends of course. Edit: I'm pretty sure Mirror Moon translated it as "People die when they're killed", too. Then again, they were also very often too literal. But in context it makes sense. I won't heal even if I get hurt. But that's normal. I've relied too much on this body of mine without even knowing it. People die when they're killed. I can't be protected from such a normal thing now. |
CapsuleCoreJun 4, 2014 8:54 AM
| Huh.. Nice to know. But it still sounds strange to me.. I mean, if you don't die then you're not 'killed' you're just hurt badly.. Well whatever, not important.. |
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Botato said: Huh.. Nice to know. But it still sounds strange to me.. I mean, if you don't die then you're not 'killed' you're just hurt badly.. Well whatever, not important.. Not really. Death and Being Killed in Budhism-influenced cultures is very different thing. See most of japanese horror stuff, that deals with person being killed and returning to take revenge, not dying till he/she achieves it. Its a common element of mythological tales in the east that a person would defy death via will/honor/beliefs/etc to achieve his goal. Even most of anime has that element with so called "sacrificial battles"(where a character suffers mortal wound but keeps going till achieving whatever he set out to do in that scene and dying at that). Not to mention that most of shonen genre RUNS on that logic. People Die when They Are Killed is Shirou acknowledging the reality of the world and that he did not survive death simply because of some moral or idealistic superiority - he did it because of the haxx that was inside him and the normal way is that, no matter what you believe in or how much you try, when the killing blow is struck, you will be dead. |
AhenshihaelJun 4, 2014 12:17 PM
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Fai said: Botato said: Huh.. Nice to know. But it still sounds strange to me.. I mean, if you don't die then you're not 'killed' you're just hurt badly.. Well whatever, not important.. Not really. Death and Being Killed in Budhism-influenced cultures is very different thing. See most of japanese horror stuff, that deals with person being killed and returning to take revenge, not dying till he/she achieves it. Makes sense. Fai said: Its a common element of mythological tales in the east that a person would defy death via will/honor/beliefs/etc to achieve his goal. Even most of anime has that element with so called "sacrificial battles"(where a character suffers mortal wound but keeps going till achieving whatever he set out to do in that scene and dying at that). Not to mention that most of shonen genre RUNS on that logic. That's why it sounds strange to me, it's a mortal wound not getting killed. Fai said: People Die when They Are Killed is Shirou acknowledging the reality of the world and that he did not survive death simply because of some moral or idealistic superiority - he did it because of the haxx that was inside him and the normal way is that, no matter what you believe in or how much you try, when the killing blow is struck, you will be dead. Yeah I understand this, but 'killing blow' wouldn't be called that if target doesn't die. I understand what they mean by it, it just sounds strange to me that's all (probably because the whole idiom thing is new to me..) |
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Botato said: Fai said: Botato said: Huh.. Nice to know. But it still sounds strange to me.. I mean, if you don't die then you're not 'killed' you're just hurt badly.. Well whatever, not important.. Not really. Death and Being Killed in Budhism-influenced cultures is very different thing. See most of japanese horror stuff, that deals with person being killed and returning to take revenge, not dying till he/she achieves it. Makes sense. Fai said: Its a common element of mythological tales in the east that a person would defy death via will/honor/beliefs/etc to achieve his goal. Even most of anime has that element with so called "sacrificial battles"(where a character suffers mortal wound but keeps going till achieving whatever he set out to do in that scene and dying at that). Not to mention that most of shonen genre RUNS on that logic. That's why it sounds strange to me, it's a mortal wound not getting killed. Fai said: People Die when They Are Killed is Shirou acknowledging the reality of the world and that he did not survive death simply because of some moral or idealistic superiority - he did it because of the haxx that was inside him and the normal way is that, no matter what you believe in or how much you try, when the killing blow is struck, you will be dead. Yeah I understand this, but 'killing blow' wouldn't be called that if target doesn't die. I understand what they mean by it, it just sounds strange to me that's all (probably because the whole idiom thing is new to me..) A person still can die from the blow that killed them, but that does not mean its one and the same. A killing blow is a mortal wound. Death is spiritual. According to it, You can be dealt a killing blow but still go on till you do something you set out to do and THEN die from it or just ignore it. In UBW, |
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Fai said: Botato said: Fai said: Botato said: Huh.. Nice to know. But it still sounds strange to me.. I mean, if you don't die then you're not 'killed' you're just hurt badly.. Well whatever, not important.. Not really. Death and Being Killed in Budhism-influenced cultures is very different thing. See most of japanese horror stuff, that deals with person being killed and returning to take revenge, not dying till he/she achieves it. Makes sense. Fai said: Its a common element of mythological tales in the east that a person would defy death via will/honor/beliefs/etc to achieve his goal. Even most of anime has that element with so called "sacrificial battles"(where a character suffers mortal wound but keeps going till achieving whatever he set out to do in that scene and dying at that). Not to mention that most of shonen genre RUNS on that logic. That's why it sounds strange to me, it's a mortal wound not getting killed. Fai said: People Die when They Are Killed is Shirou acknowledging the reality of the world and that he did not survive death simply because of some moral or idealistic superiority - he did it because of the haxx that was inside him and the normal way is that, no matter what you believe in or how much you try, when the killing blow is struck, you will be dead. Yeah I understand this, but 'killing blow' wouldn't be called that if target doesn't die. I understand what they mean by it, it just sounds strange to me that's all (probably because the whole idiom thing is new to me..) A person still can die from the blow that killed them, but that does not mean its one and the same. A killing blow is a mortal wound. Death is spiritual. According to it, You can be dealt a killing blow but still go on till you do something you set out to do and THEN die from it or just ignore it. In UBW, This is getting a bit confusing x_x |
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Botato said: Fai said: Botato said: Fai said: Botato said: Huh.. Nice to know. But it still sounds strange to me.. I mean, if you don't die then you're not 'killed' you're just hurt badly.. Well whatever, not important.. Not really. Death and Being Killed in Budhism-influenced cultures is very different thing. See most of japanese horror stuff, that deals with person being killed and returning to take revenge, not dying till he/she achieves it. Makes sense. Fai said: Its a common element of mythological tales in the east that a person would defy death via will/honor/beliefs/etc to achieve his goal. Even most of anime has that element with so called "sacrificial battles"(where a character suffers mortal wound but keeps going till achieving whatever he set out to do in that scene and dying at that). Not to mention that most of shonen genre RUNS on that logic. That's why it sounds strange to me, it's a mortal wound not getting killed. Fai said: People Die when They Are Killed is Shirou acknowledging the reality of the world and that he did not survive death simply because of some moral or idealistic superiority - he did it because of the haxx that was inside him and the normal way is that, no matter what you believe in or how much you try, when the killing blow is struck, you will be dead. Yeah I understand this, but 'killing blow' wouldn't be called that if target doesn't die. I understand what they mean by it, it just sounds strange to me that's all (probably because the whole idiom thing is new to me..) A person still can die from the blow that killed them, but that does not mean its one and the same. A killing blow is a mortal wound. Death is spiritual. According to it, You can be dealt a killing blow but still go on till you do something you set out to do and THEN die from it or just ignore it. In UBW, This is getting a bit confusing x_x BOth are the same. Your example is the same. The phrase is negating all of that being possible. |
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hallowjoe2 said: Haven't read the visual novel. Just saying that it would go nice with the new look ufotable illustrated. Opinion discarded. Get out, you filthy secondary. Wait, I forget, are you a secondary or a troll? |
| And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible. |
JabonHR said: hallowjoe2 said: Haven't read the visual novel. Just saying that it would go nice with the new look ufotable illustrated. Opinion discarded. Get out, you filthy secondary. Wait, I forget, are you a secondary or a troll? Most likely the former. A troll would have asked something like "I watched Carnival Phantasm first, should I watch Zero and F/SN for Arcueid?" for guaranteed replies. |
| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
BloodRequiem said: JabonHR said: hallowjoe2 said: Haven't read the visual novel. Just saying that it would go nice with the new look ufotable illustrated. Opinion discarded. Get out, you filthy secondary. Wait, I forget, are you a secondary or a troll? Most likely the former. A troll would have asked something like "I watched Carnival Phantasm first, should I watch Zero and F/SN for Arcueid?" for guaranteed replies. I would be too busy looking for my brain if someone asked that. Well new Arcueid is almost a new Saber clone...so... |
Fai said: -snip- What I am saying is 'dying' should be part of 'getting killed' and if it wasn't then it doesn't count as 'killing.' I have always used it like this and that's why it sounds strange to me. I'm not saying it's wrong, just strange to hear something I am not used to -_-" |
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