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Nov 19, 2014 11:12 AM

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Assuming that line of reasoning is true, (but please, someone point out errors if you see any) it must mean that Llafos must be the mafia roleblocker.

Assuming that Karote is the SK then we should go with this plan:

Day 4:
- Lynch Llafos to first get rid of the mafia roleblocker
- Since the mafia roleblocker will cause trouble for either the cop, townie roleblocker or the SK

Night 4:
- Have Serial Killer kill Worldrush
- I will investigate Karote (if he comes back as SK then Volunteer must be mafia)
- Mafias kill a townie

Day 5:
- Only Volunteer the mafia should be left at this point so we lynch him
- Or we can lynch the SK

Night 5:
- Either the surviving mafia or SK (depends on who we decided to lynch) will make their final kill

Day 6:
- We lynch remaining threat
- We win
Nov 19, 2014 11:14 AM

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Llafos said:
Soren333 said:
I have come to the conclusion that Volunteer is most likely the Godfather.

Here's why.

Volunteer claimed to have been roleblocked on night two. This does not correlate with either Llafos nor cloud2313's claims.

So who's lieing here?

If we assume that Llafos is telling the truth, then cloud2313 is definitely lieing.

Given that, we get the following scenario.

If cloud2313 is lieing, then it must mean that he is Godfather. Since I investigated cloud2313 and he came back as townie. So what does this mean?

Volunteer starts Day 4 by accusing Karote of being Godfather.

Probably because Volunteer is SK and made a kill on Karote on night 3, but the kill didn't go through since Godfather has one shot bulletproof.

But if cloud2313 is lieing, then cloud2313 must be Godfather instead.

So why is Volunteer (who is suggesting to be the SK) accusing Karote instead of cloud2313?

The answer is simple, cloud2313 is not lieing.

Volunteer is.

Therefore:
- cloud2313 is townie roleblocker
- Karote is SK
- Volunteer is Godfather


I give you a deal here, we vote Vol out, if he is mafia you can guys can vote me out tomorrow and still have gotten a mafia member today.
If he is SK I have proven who I am and we can go after the scums.


If we keep you alive, as the mafia roleblocker, you will cause troubles for us tonight.
Nov 19, 2014 11:15 AM

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I hope Jackrito is online to offer some thoughts.
Nov 19, 2014 11:17 AM

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The problem is you expect to live if you lynch me.
Nov 19, 2014 11:20 AM

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Llafos said:
The problem is you expect to live if you lynch me.


Is this the mafia confession!??!!?!?

I don't expect to live.

I even said that by revealing myself as cop I have already sacrificed myself.

However, I'm hoping that I won't die tonight.

The mafia will have to worry about the cop, SK and townie roleblocker.

Who will they kill?

And hopefully, the SK kills a mafia, and the roleblocker roleblocks the mafia kill.
Nov 19, 2014 11:21 AM

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Soren333 said:
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The problem is you expect to live if you lynch me.


Is this the mafia confession!??!!?!?

I don't expect to live.

I even said that by revealing myself as cop I have already sacrificed myself.

However, I'm hoping that I won't die tonight.

The mafia will have to worry about the cop, SK and townie roleblocker.

Who will they kill?

And hopefully, the SK kills a mafia, and the roleblocker roleblocks the mafia kill.


No it's not, it's the fact that I am 100 that Vol is SK and SK have no chance of winning by killing mafia.
Nov 19, 2014 11:23 AM

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Llafos said:
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Is this the mafia confession!??!!?!?

I don't expect to live.

I even said that by revealing myself as cop I have already sacrificed myself.

However, I'm hoping that I won't die tonight.

The mafia will have to worry about the cop, SK and townie roleblocker.

Who will they kill?

And hopefully, the SK kills a mafia, and the roleblocker roleblocks the mafia kill.


No it's not, it's the fact that I am 100 that Vol is SK and SK have no chance of winning by killing mafia.


Why are you so sure?

Do you oppose what I have just explained?
Nov 19, 2014 11:25 AM

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I think I explained my theory enough, I can only see it as:

Cloud- GF
Worldrush- some sort of mafia
Karote - some sort of mafia

Vol - SK
Nov 19, 2014 11:29 AM

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Llafos said:
I think I explained my theory enough, I can only see it as:

Cloud- GF
Worldrush- some sort of mafia
Karote - some sort of mafia

Vol - SK


I can see why you would think that, assuming that you are the townie roleblocker.

Hmmm.

I really want to hear some other player's thoughts right now.

It's mainly just been me, you and Jackrito the past few hours.
Nov 19, 2014 11:32 AM

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Dont forget me babe
~I am just one sadist who supports friends~
Nov 19, 2014 11:34 AM

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The_Pyromaani said:
Dont forget me babe


What are your thoughts Pyro?

Should we be lynching Llafos?
Nov 19, 2014 11:35 AM

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I am done with discussion at this point been doing it for too long and going in circles. I really don't think Karote is mafia but Cloud could be so in my mind the mafia are Worldrush,Vol and than either Cloud or Llafos as the RB.

Mainly because I really doubt Cloud and Karote came up with such a complex plan especially when they were not under suspicion.
Nov 19, 2014 11:37 AM

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Jackrito said:
I am done with discussion at this point been doing it for too long and going in circles. I really don't think Karote is mafia but Cloud could be so in my mind the mafia are Worldrush,Vol and than either Cloud or Llafos as the RB.

Mainly because I really doubt Cloud and Karote came up with such a complex plan especially when they were not under suspicion.


Since you are 50/50 on cloud and Llafos.

Should we just lynch who we think is a mafia then?

Like Volunteer?
Nov 19, 2014 11:38 AM

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Jackrito said:
I am done with discussion at this point been doing it for too long and going in circles. I really don't think Karote is mafia but Cloud could be so in my mind the mafia are Worldrush,Vol and than either Cloud or Llafos as the RB.

Mainly because I really doubt Cloud and Karote came up with such a complex plan especially when they were not under suspicion.


Karote had was already under lynch vote.

Even so, you risk less by going Vol as I said.

I said he is SK, but even if you guys believe he is mafia, then it's a win win.
Nov 19, 2014 11:40 AM

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Soren333 said:
Jackrito said:
I am done with discussion at this point been doing it for too long and going in circles. I really don't think Karote is mafia but Cloud could be so in my mind the mafia are Worldrush,Vol and than either Cloud or Llafos as the RB.

Mainly because I really doubt Cloud and Karote came up with such a complex plan especially when they were not under suspicion.


Since you are 50/50 on cloud and Llafos.

Should we just lynch who we think is a mafia then?


Like Volunteer?


Well we are in a do or die situation at the moment and no one else is going to help us but I also don't think we can change the vote anyway but can I try I suppose.

Me and you have gave it our all today at least I just hope we don't make a mistake after all this.
Nov 19, 2014 11:41 AM

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Votes have been allowed to change earlier days.

Edit: Oh you meant the amount, we can hope someone comes and save the day.
Nov 19, 2014 11:53 AM

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At any rate, I think we have more than enough evidence to suppose that Llafos is the mafia roleblocker.

I am still not convinced that he is the townie.

However, we have to factor in the minuscule possibility that he is telling the truth.

If we lynch him and we are wrong (I doubt that though, but we shouldn't risk), then we have effectively lost.

I'm almost certain that Worldrush or Volunteer is mafia. We should lynch Volunteer though, because that would confirm whether or not Karote is SK.

However, doing this will mean:
- Leaves the mafia roleblocker alive, this will cause problems in the night
- If Volunteer is SK, we have effectively lost as well

And like both of you that have pointed out, I don't think enough members are online to sway the votes.

So changing our votes probably won't even matter at this point.
Nov 19, 2014 11:55 AM

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Why do you think I am mafia "roleblocker"?
Nov 19, 2014 11:56 AM

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Llafos said:
Why do you think I am mafia "roleblocker"?


I'm not going to explain it again.
Nov 19, 2014 11:58 AM

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k den

Unvote Llafos
Vote: Volunteer
Nov 19, 2014 11:58 AM

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Either Karote or Worldrush is the roleblocker obviously.
Nov 19, 2014 12:00 PM

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Llafos said:
Either Karote or Worldrush is the roleblocker obviously.


ayyy lmao.

Why you think I'm mafia RB?
Nov 19, 2014 12:01 PM

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Karote said:
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Either Karote or Worldrush is the roleblocker obviously.


ayyy lmao.

Why you think I'm mafia RB?


Because Cloud is Godfather, so obviously either you are Worldrush is the RB.
Nov 19, 2014 12:06 PM

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Llafos said:
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ayyy lmao.

Why you think I'm mafia RB?


Because Cloud is Godfather, so obviously either you are Worldrush is the RB.


It would be weird for cloud to claim RB and then accuse me being SK if I was his fellow mafia buddy.
And cloud said that I'm SK before Soren said that he checked cloud, what were chances of plan working out? I wouldn't risk like that.

I say you're the mafia roleblocker along with Volunteer being GF, Dunno about Worldrush but everyone says he's obvious mafia.
or Llafos is GF and Volunteer RB. gg wp
Nov 19, 2014 12:06 PM

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Soren333 said:
The_Pyromaani said:
Dont forget me babe


What are your thoughts Pyro?

Should we be lynching Llafos?


i dont know.
~I am just one sadist who supports friends~
Nov 19, 2014 12:14 PM

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Come on guys, we need to prove my innocence!
Nov 19, 2014 12:15 PM

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Should I change my vote.
Nov 19, 2014 12:16 PM

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2 more to do it and we I can prove you that my theory is the real thing.
Nov 19, 2014 12:17 PM

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I'll do it if jack changes it.
Nov 19, 2014 12:22 PM

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I really don't know what to do tbh.
Nov 19, 2014 12:23 PM

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Let me prove I am not lying!
Nov 19, 2014 12:29 PM

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Jackrito said:
I really don't know what to do tbh.


Let's change.

In the event that Llafos is townie, we would have lost.

But if he is mafia and just avoided the lynch. Great bloody play from him.
Nov 19, 2014 12:29 PM

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30 minutes left

=/
Nov 19, 2014 12:33 PM

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I will say if Llafos is mafia they have put up a great defense and made it hard for us. but as someone who dies a lot I know how annoying it is to be killed when you are innocent and put up a great defense so I feel bad for them. but sadly it is too late too change the votes and I am going to go with what my mind and facts are telling me so keeping the vote on them.
Nov 19, 2014 12:35 PM

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Why Jack? ='(
Nov 19, 2014 12:36 PM

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Jackrito said:
I will say if Llafos is mafia they have put up a great defense and made it hard for us. but as someone who dies a lot I know how annoying it is to be killed when you are innocent and put up a great defense so I feel bad for them. but sadly it is too late too change the votes and I am going to go with what my mind and facts are telling me so keeping the vote on them.


It's not, you two would make it 4 on Vol and 3 on me.
Nov 19, 2014 12:40 PM

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Really not sure what to do if Vol is the SK I would ruin the chances of winning by voting them but if you are the town RB I ruin our chances also they is a chance with both I ruin the towns chances so confused right now.
Nov 19, 2014 12:40 PM

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Jackrito said:
Really not sure what to do if Vol is the SK I would ruin the chances of winning by voting them but if you are the town RB I ruin our chances also they is a chance with both I ruin the towns chances so confused right now.


We can hope I block the correct mafia, Vol you won't give you that.
Nov 19, 2014 12:41 PM

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Llafos said:
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Really not sure what to do if Vol is the SK I would ruin the chances of winning by voting them but if you are the town RB I ruin our chances also they is a chance with both I ruin the towns chances so confused right now.


We can hope I block the correct mafia, Vol you won't give you that.


But you are mafia roleblocker.
Nov 19, 2014 12:42 PM

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Llafos said:
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Really not sure what to do if Vol is the SK I would ruin the chances of winning by voting them but if you are the town RB I ruin our chances also they is a chance with both I ruin the towns chances so confused right now.


We can hope I block the correct mafia, Vol you won't give you that.


Chances are if you are RB they will RB you anyway so we would be in the same situation. I would rather keep SK alive to distract mafia since to win they need him dead and as long as we have the SK on side we keep control of votes and keep mafia in a hard situation.
Nov 19, 2014 12:43 PM

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Soren333 said:
Llafos said:


We can hope I block the correct mafia, Vol you won't give you that.


But you are mafia roleblocker.
Soren333 said:
Llafos said:


We can hope I block the correct mafia, Vol you won't give you that.


But you are mafia roleblocker.


When did you get proof?
I promise you that this will prove my innocence!
Nov 19, 2014 12:43 PM

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Jackrito said:
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We can hope I block the correct mafia, Vol you won't give you that.


Chances are if you are RB they will RB you anyway so we would be in the same situation. I would rather keep SK alive to distract mafia since to win they need him dead and as long as we have the SK on side we keep control of votes and keep mafia in a hard situation.


Hopefully the SK doesn't kill a townie....
Nov 19, 2014 12:44 PM

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Soren333 said:
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Chances are if you are RB they will RB you anyway so we would be in the same situation. I would rather keep SK alive to distract mafia since to win they need him dead and as long as we have the SK on side we keep control of votes and keep mafia in a hard situation.


Hopefully the SK doesn't kill a townie....


When Vol won't admit he is SK, then he goes for the win.
Nov 19, 2014 12:45 PM

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I have gave this a lot of thought I am going to keep my vote the same and hope I get the right RB it is a hard choice but I am going to have to take it this has been one of the hardest days of mafia I have played in a while I just hope my judgement was right or I am going to hate myself.
Nov 19, 2014 12:47 PM

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I have done what I can to prove my innocence, I am offering you the safe kill.
But I accept that you don't want me to help you win, good luck in the future.
Nov 19, 2014 12:50 PM

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Well 10mins left to see how much of a fool I have been today. I hate these games at times.
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Llafos said:
I have done what I can to prove my innocence, I am offering you the safe kill.
But I accept that you don't want me to help you win, good luck in the future.


If you are mafia, well played.

If you are townie, sorry.
Nov 19, 2014 12:50 PM

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Jackrito said:
Well 10mins left to see how much of a fool I have been today. I hate these games at times.
I will always blame you for my death!
Nov 19, 2014 12:52 PM

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8 minutes

My palms are sweating

;'(
Nov 19, 2014 12:52 PM

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Well the real twist would be if I was the GF the whole time lol.
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