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Feb 18, 2018 7:40 AM

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coromandel said:
Vote change: Riku

Waiting for an answer.

not getting one, take a hint.
"I am the Bone of my Sword
Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood
I have created over a Thousand Blades
Unaware of Loss,
Nor aware of Gain.
Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival
I have no Regrets. This is the only Path
My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works"
Feb 18, 2018 8:10 AM

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riku said:
coromandel said:
Vote change: Riku

Waiting for an answer.

not getting one, take a hint.

Enlightening. -_-

Feb 18, 2018 8:23 AM

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where is Labs even with this extension?? gamethrower sghjff

Feb 18, 2018 8:49 AM

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readlist?
Scarlet
Coro
Cross
ironace

Sleipnirr
Abu

Ruu
Riku
Labs

1st group I keep 2nd guessing. 2nd = null. 3rd for susp. maybe 1 from each?

Feb 18, 2018 8:52 AM

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quiet EoDs ftw

Feb 18, 2018 8:53 AM

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🌹 Vote Count 2.7 🌹

💔 Riku (4) 💔Sleipnirr, Phraze, ScarletCelestial, Coromandel
Sleipnirr (1) Ruu
Phraze (1) Riku

💍 Not Voting (4) 💍 AbuHumaid, Labs, Crossbell, Ironace

Modnote: Just a reminder that this phase was extended by request.

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Feb 18, 2018 8:56 AM

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hmm... thought there was only 2 on riku

Vote: Labs

Feb 18, 2018 8:58 AM

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oh well. quiet EoD too late

Feb 18, 2018 9:04 AM

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I feel like Riku isn't going to respond.


Vote change: Phraze
back to you. :3

Why do you suspect Ruu and town-read ironace?

Feb 18, 2018 9:08 AM

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@ironace
I thought you'd voted for someone by now. Can't decide?


Phraze said:
coromandel said:

This seems unlikely, imo. I think he never believed Penta's claim.

/edit: and seems very specific. It never crossed my mind that he could be the GF - how did you get this idea?
in this scenario, it would make sense for scum-labs to want to kill penta.



When people voted for Sleipnirr and Ironace at the beginning of D2, no counter-trains formed. I'm not seeing people defend ironace much either, and I've been sitting on this vote for a while now. You're a neutral read to me who hasn't been the center of attention so far. So I'm hoping by pressuring you, we gain new info.
1. I would be surprised to see no cop in the setup. Penta dropped a vote on me while saying Labs was down to scummy, but he didn't seem to mind. hmm... wait. does this mean u didn't think cop or gf was in play?
2. I see. good strat. tho I won't read too much into the Sleip/Iron tie, looks like scum abstaining. ties are more telling than single-vote wagons

I did expect a Cop but not necessarily a GF.

Feb 18, 2018 9:10 AM

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@Crossbell
where are you? >.<

Feb 18, 2018 9:12 AM

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generous mod with EoDs xD

coromandel said:
I feel like Riku isn't going to respond.


Vote change: Phraze
back to you. :3

Why do you suspect Ruu and town-read ironace?
Ruu has been wordy, and doesn't seem to have reads? even though she was almost lynched. I can excuse her act for following the manual on scumhunting, but still don't see her 'back to her old self's so to speak. still similar way of playing
ironace is defensive and reactive almost all the time. its kinda NAI. tho townlean for picking up on things about me, I think. general town reaction

Feb 18, 2018 9:18 AM

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coromandel said:
Phraze said:
1. I would be surprised to see no cop in the setup. Penta dropped a vote on me while saying Labs was down to scummy, but he didn't seem to mind. hmm... wait. does this mean u didn't think cop or gf was in play?
2. I see. good strat. tho I won't read too much into the Sleip/Iron tie, looks like scum abstaining. ties are more telling than single-vote wagons

I did expect a Cop but not necessarily a GF.
fair enough (tho I dont remember seeing a gf-less setup here). the kill and Labs behavior doesn't add up. would scum think to leave a conf!town alive? better to just avoid the 2 town altogether

Feb 18, 2018 9:23 AM

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@Labs I'm voting u~

Feb 18, 2018 9:26 AM

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ironace said:
ScarletCelestial said:


Because I only posted SoD and now I'm here and ready to scum hunt.

@Sleipnirr @ironace

Read the thread? If so, please answer the following:

1. Can you give me your greatest scum reads and Town reads and why?

2. Why did you vote Cent yesterday (for @ironace)?


---

On another note, since no one has yet claimed receiving a rose, I'm going to assume it didn't end up in the hands of the Mafia, who I believe would claim it as soon as possible in order to prove their Towniness.



1-I gave my reads. Out of these people, i guess me voting sleip would make ALOT of sense, but that just doesnt feel right to me.
I ll follow coromandel's advice and
[b]vote:@phraze[b]
what do you think of the current situation and the votes?
who do you believe is scum apart from labs and stuff?

2-I never voted century, already told why i didnt vote him.
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I dont this rose thingy assumption from you at all. We have no idea what they do and how much of an impact they have on the game.How can u just assume that scum would say they obtained roses inorder to look townie.

^ so you voted here, but messed up the bbcode.

Feb 18, 2018 9:29 AM

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Day 2 votes so far.

AbuHumaid > Ruu > unvote
Coromandel > ironace > phraze > riku > phraze
Crossbell >
Ironace >
Labs >
Phraze > sleipnirr > labs > riku > labs
Riku > ironace > scarletcelestial > phraze
Ruu > sleipnirr
ScarletCelestial > riku
Sleipnirr > riku

abuhumaid votes for ruu
coromandel votes for ironace
abuhumaid unvotes

Togs said:
🌹 Vote Count 2.1 🌹

ruu votes for sleipnirr
phraze votes for sleipnirr

Togs said:
🌹 Vote Count 2.2 🌹

riku votes for ironace

Togs said:
🌹 Vote Count 2.3 🌹

riku votes for scarletcelestial

Togs said:
🌹 Vote Count 2.3 🌹

phraze votes for labs
sleipnirr votes for riku

Togs said:
🌹 Vote Count 2.4 🌹

Togs said:
🌹 Vote Count 2.5 (Unchanged) 🌹

Togs said:
🌹 Vote Count 2.6 (Unchanged) (Unchanged) 🌹
phraze votes for riku
scarletcelestial votes for riku
coromandel votes for phraze
riku votes for phraze
coromandel votes for riku


Togs said:
🌹 Vote Count 2.7 🌹

phraze votes for labs
coromandel votes for phraze


1 ironace/sleip tie with very low participation.
2 many 1-vote trains
3 riku leading in votes
4 riku/phraze tie

Feb 18, 2018 9:35 AM

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I'm here, trying to finish up work.

I think it'd be best to come clean right now, actually. I was hoping to use most of the Day to get reactions but considering how stilted things are being, I'll reveal some information.
Feb 18, 2018 9:35 AM

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hmm.. I probs missed a mention
@ironace check #754

dont remember Scarlet voting Riku. iirc Sleip left the vote as is

Feb 18, 2018 9:36 AM

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First things first, ironace neighborized me last Night.

He thinks that will prove himself town, but I'm a little more wary as neighborizer is a role that can be both seen as scum and as town. We haven't had a lot of talk in the neighbor chat since he's been mostly inactive, but this is why I haven't been pressuring him Today.
Feb 18, 2018 9:41 AM

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Crossbell said:
First things first, ironace neighborized me last Night.

He thinks that will prove himself town, but I'm a little more wary as neighborizer is a role that can be both seen as scum and as town. We haven't had a lot of talk in the neighbor chat since he's been mostly inactive, but this is why I haven't been pressuring him Today.
I see.. do u think he's scum?

Feb 18, 2018 9:42 AM

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Phraze said:
Crossbell said:
First things first, ironace neighborized me last Night.

He thinks that will prove himself town, but I'm a little more wary as neighborizer is a role that can be both seen as scum and as town. We haven't had a lot of talk in the neighbor chat since he's been mostly inactive, but this is why I haven't been pressuring him Today.
I see.. do u think he's scum?
I am not sure. He's been inactive but he sincerely believes that neighborizing me makes him town, which points to a town mindset in my eyes?

Feb 18, 2018 9:42 AM

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Second: I have a guilty check on Ruu I've been holding back for the entire Day. I wanted to question her to see if I could make her reveal more information about her buddies, but c'est la vie.

I think in Ruu scum worlds it makes Sleipnirr more town because why would you bus a buddy when town is already floundering, but yeah.

Lock her up.

Vote Ruu

Feb 18, 2018 9:47 AM

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interesting. Ruu/Labs team lives on~ and possible town!ironace

Vote: Ruu

Feb 18, 2018 9:49 AM

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Togs said:
🌹 Day 1 Final Vote Count 🌹

💔 century_orion (6) 💔 Riku, Phraze, Crossbell, Ruu, ScarletCelestial, Coromandel
Ruu (3) Abuhumaid, Labs, pentaflare
Labs (2) century_orion, Ironace

💍 Not Voting (1) 💍 Sleipnirr
Togs said:
🌹 Vote Count 2.7 🌹

💔 Riku (4) 💔Sleipnirr, Phraze, ScarletCelestial, Coromandel
Sleipnirr (1) Ruu
Phraze (1) Riku

💍 Not Voting (4) 💍 AbuHumaid, Labs, Crossbell, Ironace


During Day 1, only Sleipnirr didn't vote.

Now during Day 2, the following people are currently not voting for anyone:
AbuHumaid, Labs, Crossbell, Ironace

Abu voted for Ruu, then unvoted and hasn't been seen since then. Where's your vote, Abu? -_-
Labs seems to be inactive.
Ironace tried to vote once but didn't bold it.
Disappointed in @Crossbell - he didn't vote at all this phase!! ò_ó



Day 1
coromandel said:
AbuHumaid > phraze > ruu
century_orion > coromandel > labs
Coromandel > century_orion > ruu > ironace > century_orion > ruu > century_orion
Crossbell > crossbell > riku > labs > century_orion > ruu > century_orion
Ironace > crossbell > labs
Labs > riku > ruu
pentaflare > ironace > phraze > ruu
Phraze > coromandel > labs > ruu > sleipnirr > labs > century_orion
Riku > labs > century_orion
Ruu > phraze > unvotes > century_orion > labs > century_orion
ScarletCelestial > sleipnirr > unvote > century_orion > labs > century_orion > ruu > century_orion
Sleipnirr >

Day 2
coromandel said:
AbuHumaid > Ruu > unvote
Coromandel > ironace > phraze > riku > phraze
Crossbell >
Ironace >
Labs >
Phraze > sleipnirr > labs > riku > labs
Riku > ironace > scarletcelestial > phraze
Ruu > sleipnirr
ScarletCelestial > riku
Sleipnirr > riku


Comparing activity between D1 and D2.
- Activity dropped in general.
During D1, coromandel, crossbell, ruu, scarletcelestial and phraze were the players who changed their votes the most.
crossbell seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth. Ruu has been voting for the same person ever since the start of D2.
scarlet has only been voting for riku so far who's pretty much a low hanging fruit imo.

@ScarletCelestial who else do you find scummy besides Riku?

Feb 18, 2018 9:54 AM

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Second: I have a guilty check on Ruu I've been holding back for the entire Day. I wanted to question her to see if I could make her reveal more information about her buddies, but c'est la vie.

I think in Ruu scum worlds it makes Sleipnirr more town because why would you bus a buddy when town is already floundering, but yeah.

Lock her up.

Vote Ruu


hmm.. interesting.

Vote change: Ruu

Feb 18, 2018 9:55 AM

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Yeah that's why I haven't been voting this entire day phase.

It's hard to compartimentalize worlds where Ruu is scum versus pretending she isn't and voting people that you think are town.
Feb 18, 2018 9:56 AM

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then again... Ruu voted and almost lynched Labs, so maybe Riku? Ruu is a busser tho. gonna look at EoD on Labs

Feb 18, 2018 10:14 AM

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VC 1.1-1.7 Ruu voted for Phraze for quite a while.

VC 1.11 AbuHumaid joined Ruu's train. Abu's probably town because at that time, Labs' train had 3 votes and I don't think scum-Abu would vote for his scum buddy, almost making her lead in votes.

VC 1.13 then phraze joined Ruu's train. Again, Ruu and Labs were close with just 1 vote between them. I don't know if Phraze is known for bussing but considering Ruu also voted for Phraze during the first half of D1, I doubt Phraze is scum.

VC 1.15 Labs joins Ruu's train. I do think he likes to bus though, so I'm not town-reading him based on this alone.

VC 1.17-1.19 the votes are tied between labs and century, when people decide to change their votes to ruu.
penta, coro, crossbell and scarlet vote for ruu.
after her vanilla townie claim, people change their votes to century.

the Final vote count makes me and scarlet look suspicious for being at the end of century's train.

=> Abu and Phraze are probably town.


people who never voted for ruu during D1 (more likely scum):
- Century, ironace, riku, sleipnirr.

people who voted for ruu at the end of the day (more likely town):
abu, penta, labs.

(less sure about labs because I do think he likes to bus)


Feb 18, 2018 10:21 AM

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@coromandel
Penta died

Feb 18, 2018 10:24 AM

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I'm aware of that. >.<

Feb 18, 2018 10:33 AM

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I was holding this back because I wanted to wait for everyone's answers, but I noticed something when comparing the answers to my question:
"Why do you think Pentaflare was killed last night?"

ironace and ruu gave the same answer.

ironace said:
coromandel said:
I'd like everyone to answer this:

Why do you think Pentaflare was killed last night?


@Ruu @Labs @AbuHumaid @Riku @ScarletCelestial @Phraze @Crossbell @ironace @Sleipnirr


i believe scum thougt he may be lying about his ''1-shot'' and thus decided to not take chances?
Ruu said:
coromandel said:
I'd like everyone to answer this:

Why do you think Pentaflare was killed last night?


@Ruu @Labs @AbuHumaid @Riku @ScarletCelestial @Phraze @Crossbell @ironace @Sleipnirr


I've got two ideas:

- Mafia thought his claim was real but that he actually had more than one shot.
- They are messing with us and want to see us waste time thinking about it
I'm going to bed now. I will be back in a few hours. Byee



Below are all the answers.

Based on hers I'm thinking Scarlet is probably town.
Because she listed all the possiblities that came to her mind. When you're town you have no idea where to start because there are many possiblities as to why the mafia decided to kill someone. By giving me many answers, it shows that she genuinely had to think about it from every angle. Whereas someone who's mafia already *knows* the reason why Penta was killed, so is more likely to not give me all the possibilities, because to them there's 1 correct answer.


Feb 18, 2018 10:36 AM

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New PoE based on what I've learned so far:

most likely town
AbuHumaid
Phraze
Sleipnirr
ScarletCelestial
Crossbell (or maybe just bussing? >.>)


scum?
Labs
Ruu
Riku
Ironace

Feb 18, 2018 10:41 AM

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🌹 Vote Count 2.8 🌹

💔 Ruu (3) 💔Crossbell, Phraze, Coromandel
Riku (2) Sleipnirr, ScarletCelestial
Sleipnirr (1) Ruu
Phraze (1) Riku

💍 Not Voting (3) 💍 AbuHumaid, Labs, Ironace

>>Day 2 Timer<<
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Feb 18, 2018 10:50 AM

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Vote: Ruu

Nothing to suspect from Cop claim at this point. (Since if they flip Town Cross is a dead bachelor. If they flip scum, then Cross is either 99% Cop or 1% chance scum.)
Feb 18, 2018 10:54 AM

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ScarletCelestial said:

Nothing to suspect from Cop claim at this point. (Since if they flip Town Cross is a dead bachelor. If they flip scum, then Cross is either 99% Cop or 1% chance scum.)
u forgot insane checks >.>

Feb 18, 2018 11:02 AM

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Phraze said:
ScarletCelestial said:

Nothing to suspect from Cop claim at this point. (Since if they flip Town Cross is a dead bachelor. If they flip scum, then Cross is either 99% Cop or 1% chance scum.)
u forgot insane checks >.>

This isn't a bastard game though.

Outside of the hidden abilities, this game has no bastard elements. There are no converting or cultlike roles and all moderator info can be trusted.

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coromandel said:
Phraze said:
u forgot insane checks >.>

This isn't a bastard game though.

Outside of the hidden abilities, this game has no bastard elements. There are no converting or cultlike roles and all moderator info can be trusted.
oh right. I always forget

Feb 18, 2018 1:28 PM

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Feb 18, 2018 1:36 PM

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Do you, Ruu:

a) Start screeching about Cross being a liar.

b) Basically be a tree stump for the rest of the Day.

c) Quietly leave.

d) Do a, then b, then c.
Feb 18, 2018 1:36 PM

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vote:Ruu


I was really hoping. Dammit Ruu.
"I am the Bone of my Sword
Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood
I have created over a Thousand Blades
Unaware of Loss,
Nor aware of Gain.
Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival
I have no Regrets. This is the only Path
My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works"
Feb 18, 2018 1:47 PM

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ScarletCelestial said:
Do you, Ruu:

a) Start screeching about Cross being a liar.

b) Basically be a tree stump for the rest of the Day.

c) Quietly leave.

d) Do a, then b, then c.
lol. she aint Chad tho

Feb 18, 2018 1:48 PM

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riku said:
vote:Ruu


I was really hoping. Dammit Ruu.
umm.. what were u hoping for?

Feb 18, 2018 2:00 PM

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ScarletCelestial said:
Do you, Ruu:

a) Start screeching about Cross being a liar.

b) Basically be a tree stump for the rest of the Day.

c) Quietly leave.

d) Do a, then b, then c.


I believe @Crossbell claim. It would be stupid to claim cop as scum and accuse a townie. That being said, I know I'm town. I can't prove my role because like I said I'm a VT. The only thing that comes to mind is that mafia has some type of framer. People always see me as scummy so checking me is not surprising. And because of that, mafia using a framer to get me lynch is a good strat.
My problem is that my flip won't help town at all because now everyone will jump on my train because of Cross and then say "I just believe Cross" when I flip. And they might even push a lynch on Cross D3 thanks to that.
Feb 18, 2018 2:02 PM

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Phraze said:
riku said:
vote:Ruu


I was really hoping. Dammit Ruu.
umm.. what were u hoping for?

That my guess based on knowledge was right. -_-

Ruu's defense... Yuck
"I am the Bone of my Sword
Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood
I have created over a Thousand Blades
Unaware of Loss,
Nor aware of Gain.
Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival
I have no Regrets. This is the only Path
My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works"
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riku said:
Phraze said:
umm.. what were u hoping for?

That my guess based on knowledge was right. -_-

Ruu's defense... Yuck
I see.. ok

Feb 18, 2018 2:06 PM

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What's your flavor @Ruu

Feb 18, 2018 2:08 PM

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vote: riku

He town read me pretty quickly which is weird because I don't get town read a lot. He is now voting me because of Cross's claim but nothing else. He was also leading the votes so this is perfect for him.

Last but not least, self preservation. I'm no martyr, I don't want to die, specially because my flip can only hurt town (my mislynch + one more and we loose)
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Ruu said:
vote: riku

He town read me pretty quickly which is weird because I don't get town read a lot. He is now voting me because of Cross's claim but nothing else. He was also leading the votes so this is perfect for him.

Last but not least, self preservation. I'm no martyr, I don't want to die, specially because my flip can only hurt town (my mislynch + one more and we loose)

You could have chosen anyone else, but man, this doesn't look good for you. Fearmongering.
"I am the Bone of my Sword
Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood
I have created over a Thousand Blades
Unaware of Loss,
Nor aware of Gain.
Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival
I have no Regrets. This is the only Path
My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works"
Feb 18, 2018 2:11 PM

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Crossbell said:
What's your flavor @Ruu



Some girl name Juna. Aparently you use a translator to play the game?
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riku said:
Ruu said:
vote: riku

He town read me pretty quickly which is weird because I don't get town read a lot. He is now voting me because of Cross's claim but nothing else. He was also leading the votes so this is perfect for him.

Last but not least, self preservation. I'm no martyr, I don't want to die, specially because my flip can only hurt town (my mislynch + one more and we loose)

You could have chosen anyone else, but man, this doesn't look good for you. Fearmongering.


Why would I chose somebody else? Give me a reason for voting for me apart from Cross claim
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