Poor Jeanne. It feels bad when your first SSR and a very good character on top of that gets treated like this. I mean, even Emiya is better than her now when they were leagues apart in usability at launch.
astroprogs said: Poor Jeanne. It feels bad when your first SSR and a very good character on top of that gets treated like this. I mean, even Emiya is better than her now when they were leaves apart in usability at launch.
Here's hoping for a revamp when Apo anime starts.
It's kinda funny in hindsight reading the first page of this thread, and seeing people wanting to get lucky with the gacha and roll Jeanne to "roflstomp" everything. If only they knew...
@Genkii Against Lancers and Casters aside, which one of those would you recommend against bosses: J. Alter, Que or Musashi?
It feels to me like J. Alter is the most straightforward to use; equip with edgy Iri, generate stars for her, activate all her skills and fuck shit up while lolno'ing all damage like a badass gorgeous looking boss, but I'm wondering more about which has more raw bite when everything just clicks.
@astroprogs
Imo, aside from boss with weakness, Musashi is the less interesting to use in term of team play. I state it already but she is mememe centric.
J.Alter and Que got at least some team skill, and J.alter can generate her own Np.
astroprogs said: @Genkii Against Lancers and Casters aside, which one of those would you recommend against bosses: J. Alter, Que or Musashi?
It feels to me like J. Alter is the most straightforward to use; equip with edgy Iri, generate stars for her, activate all her skills and fuck shit up while lolno'ing all damage like a badass gorgeous looking boss, but I'm wondering more about which has more raw bite when everything just clicks.
That is a very good question and I'm glad you ask.
Musashi needs everything to click perfectly. Even just a tad is good but the other two will be superior to her in this regard as I'll explain later. Fifth Form needs to be lvl 10 to matter and it only last ONE turn. Empyrean Buster and piercing buff only last ONE turn. You can already identify her obvious problem. Her skills are geared for that one bite. Her NP hits hard and can be damage increased with overcharge but she has a problem getting 100% (though can be solved by Fifth form) again reinforcing that ONE bite. She is a nuke and once she's done, she will probably be a burden.
HOWEVER. That's not to say she has no other function. Stick her in a team that builds star and have low to nonexistent crit weight and she'll crit consistently.
Jeanne on the other hand is your 'good for all' scenario Servant. Moreso if she's your only reliable NP ST damaging Servant. She offers a party buff, is a crit monster, but can be frail. She will either be your front liner or back row for a last ditch effort of making a comeback. Point is, she is always useful and applicable for all scenarios.
Now Quetzalcoatl. Ah Quetz. One of my new fav so I may be bias in my opinion here. Against anything other than Assassin or Ruler and she just rekts shit. I don't know the numbers but her Buster hits hard. Damn hard. What makes her so great in my eyes are that her skills synergies perfectly with Merlin and Waver. God's Wisdom increases her Buster damage for 3 turns. Three long turns, it may not be 50% but it gives her longevity in a battle. Not only is it a buster buff, it is targetable AND a 3 turn res.
Fighting for Freedom may not be as good as Jeannes crit buff but the 30% free NP charge is precisely what makes Merlin and Waver her best team mates.
You are NP ready regardless of your circumstances so you can control the battle and wait for favorable moments that are a lot easier to capitalize on compare to Jeanne and Musashi. I'm sure you're already familiar with how damaging her NP is along with her crit clubbing.
TL:DR
PERSONALLY: Quetz > Jeanne > Musashi.
REALISTICALLY for average players: Jeanne > Quetz > Musashi
Optimal Musashi is for whales. Or people who wants to waifu her.
I don't know why but I 've been pulling bunch of 4* Lancer(Fion,Medusa and now Extra Vlad) for the last two days. E Luck attract E luck. Medusa and Vlad is pretty cool though.
Sooo~ I tried my best to get Gil, with all the (free) rolls I could and even trying to use a book mentioning him as a catalyst. Maybe I should have also tried building a shrine, sacrificing baby snakes and dancing naked under the winter moonlight to make my chances higher of being noticed by senpai
Didn't get him :'( Got a single gold Servant (Didn't have this one, though) in all of that.
To get some consolation from that, I began reading Fate Strange Fake then some character said "People die when they are killed" followed by an actual explanation as of how people can survive being killed Hahaha
@astroprogs
Imo, aside from boss with weakness, Musashi is the less interesting to use in term of team play. I state it already but she is mememe centric.
J.Alter and Que got at least some team skill, and J.alter can generate her own Np.
Hmmm. Yeah, Musashi seems too selfish and her cards are just stupid. She feels like a Berserker.
astroprogs said: @Genkii Against Lancers and Casters aside, which one of those would you recommend against bosses: J. Alter, Que or Musashi?
It feels to me like J. Alter is the most straightforward to use; equip with edgy Iri, generate stars for her, activate all her skills and fuck shit up while lolno'ing all damage like a badass gorgeous looking boss, but I'm wondering more about which has more raw bite when everything just clicks.
That is a very good question and I'm glad you ask.
Musashi needs everything to click perfectly. Even just a tad is good but the other two will be superior to her in this regard as I'll explain later. Fifth Form needs to be lvl 10 to matter and it only last ONE turn. Empyrean Buster and piercing buff only last ONE turn. You can already identify her obvious problem. Her skills are geared for that one bite. Her NP hits hard and can be damage increased with overcharge but she has a problem getting 100% (though can be solved by Fifth form) again reinforcing that ONE bite. She is a nuke and once she's done, she will probably be a burden.
HOWEVER. That's not to say she has no other function. Stick her in a team that builds star and have low to nonexistent crit weight and she'll crit consistently.
Jeanne on the other hand is your 'good for all' scenario Servant. Moreso if she's your only reliable NP ST damaging Servant. She offers a party buff, is a crit monster, but can be frail. She will either be your front liner or back row for a last ditch effort of making a comeback. Point is, she is always useful and applicable for all scenarios.
Now Quetzalcoatl. Ah Quetz. One of my new fav so I may be bias in my opinion here. Against anything other than Assassin or Ruler and she just rekts shit. I don't know the numbers but her Buster hits hard. Damn hard. What makes her so great in my eyes are that her skills synergies perfectly with Merlin and Waver. God's Wisdom increases her Buster damage for 3 turns. Three long turns, it may not be 50% but it gives her longevity in a battle. Not only is it a buster buff, it is targetable AND a 3 turn res.
Fighting for Freedom may not be as good as Jeannes crit buff but the 30% free NP charge is precisely what makes Merlin and Waver her best team mates.
You are NP ready regardless of your circumstances so you can control the battle and wait for favorable moments that are a lot easier to capitalize on compare to Jeanne and Musashi. I'm sure you're already familiar with how damaging her NP is along with her crit clubbing.
TL:DR
PERSONALLY: Quetz > Jeanne > Musashi.
REALISTICALLY for average players: Jeanne > Quetz > Musashi
Optimal Musashi is for whales. Or people who wants to waifu her.
Nice reply!
Yeah, Que feels like a Rider J. Alter. Instead of the superior invulnerability, she gets Guts + NP regen skill. Their play styles are strikingly similar. Being a Rider gives her a native insanely high star weight too, and that's without her absorption skill.
Musashi feels sluggish, yeah. I like your analogy of comparing her to a nuke. You get her to 100% with a CS, buff her and go for an NPBB chain... and hope you killed the boss in that one turn, because you'll either switch her out or hope she dies fast.
Also, QABBB is the worst set you can ever give a non-Zerker. Ever.
About their personalities, though, Que is pretty amusing, but nothing tops J. Alter for me. Onee-chan types don't do it for me as much as "evil" Tsunderes voiced by Maya Sakamoto. In other words, I'd rather raise my voice in the name of hatred than watch Lucha Libre :p
Musashi seems carefree and fun, but i haven't seen much of her interactions yet.
belatkuro said: Doesn't matter what anyone says, Musashi is my new waifu. Genki personality, easy to please, Ayaneru, sideboob during NP, pointy nipples.
I learned from the previous event that no trick works for me in the batcha other than saving an incredible amount. so I can't summon in this event and wait to save SQ. I really want gil and Iskandar and also the new saber but I have to hold it in for this one case. I already failed many times to get them.
so what I'm trying to say is: good luck everybody:D