yurkin said: I don't get it.aa-dono said: That's not what I meant. I know what you mean, but it can't be false if he haven't noticed otherwise he should have been lying on purpose. |
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aa-dono said: He's either making honest mistake or lying, you saying first thing can't be scum while if he haven't noticed is not alignment indicative since he follow that he sees as correct. More clear now?yurkin said: I don't get it.I know what you mean, but it can't be false if he haven't noticed otherwise he should have been lying on purpose. |
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yurkin said: Huh? I think I understand, but I'm not sure.aa-dono said: He's either making honest mistake or lying, you saying first thing can't be scum while if he haven't noticed is not alignment indicative since he follow that he sees as correct. More clear now?I don't get it. What I meant is that even if he was lying, he can't be obviously lying if he was scum, so I think it was honest. And if it was honest that he didn't actually see the post, then my initial push (or my push based on RE. However you like to see it) were based on a misunderstanding. |
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Korjivag said: yurkin said: He not giving proper explanation when other ask about his act, and he's kind.. emosional? @Korjivag #572 "he is more reactive type of player. Probably scam" What do you mean by reactive? I have slightly deferent view on Karote's game play and concretely this game. Hmm well Karote does seem emotional, thought he acted bit hyped at the beginning and now is showing his confidence in reading you. But aside from that has done something quite interesting which I wonder where it stems from, that is he asked ironace in rvs "you plan on lynching me?" which can comes off as paranoid if it wasn't for the state of the game - very early in the game I mean, from where I wonder was that a reaction test of a sort because rvs is not a phase of the game where people comes with an lynch intent. More interestong ace answers seriously here where I should have brushed it off as a joke post. So I see some new side of Karote, in which Phraze is correct haven't seen before. How do you view their earlier interaction Korvijag? Ace/Karote The suspect of players for them both started from there. |
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_Wisp said: Did I reply to this, I'm not sure. The vote was really a prod/pressure post, as yurkin guessed. But I thought it was meh to say that before he posted.@aa-dono it would def become intent to lynch if he never posted also you being this active is kind of weird to me and now that he posted? what do you think It wasn't particularly wrong that I did it with intention to lynch, since if he didn't convince me otherwise, I don't mind leaving it there which might lead him to being lynch. Also, sadly I just have more time now. (shrug) And this is my usual posting frequency before you came (and coincidentally I got busier IRL) Not someone I would actively want to lynch. That's what I think. |
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| This should be right: π VOTE COUNT π ironace (3): Wisp, Astros, Phraze Karote (2): yurkin, Korjivag aa-dono (2): PaiiiaRomana, RE Korjivag (2): Karote, aa-dono RE (1): Kiiruma π Not voting: lil_logic, ironace π |
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| ok, i understand astros and phraze's vote on me but what was astros reasoning? |
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Korjivag said: If that's not what you meant, why do you say Phraze is town?aa-dono said: By this you assumed scum is not calm. What makes you think so? Do you agree with Phraze's analysis? So you agree with him too? What makes him fishy? I see most of your town/scum are dependant on activity. Why do you see activity = town? Q:By this you assumed scum is not calm. What makes you think so? Do you agree with Phraze's analysis? A:I never say that, am just saying her demeanor, nothing to do with his being town or scum. Yeah kind of.. Q:So you agree with him too? A: I think so Q:What makes him fishy? A: Idk, I just get that vibe, his line on lil logic act and his not really clear explanation after that.. Q:I see most of your town/scum are dependant on activity. Why do you see activity = town? A: Noo.. but the more you active the more you say thing, and the more other can get from that What do you mean "you think so"? Hnn ok That's pretty much the same :/ Korjivag said: Wouldn't this be the same case for you?aa-dono said: No, when I was vote him, it's just Rvs. It's just later since he don't showing for long, that's why I say that @Korjivag What makes you think Kiiruma was lazy scum? ^Based on this, you voted thinking he's really scum. So it wasn't sheep or RVS. Btw, is Karote scummier than ironace? |
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| okay, so theres 2 hours before phase change and the fact that korjivag just strolls on giving "reads" on everyone just seems especially scummy to me. in post 572 (could be wrong looking back and fourth from mobile site and online site) he gave an excuse as to why he didnt post a lot which in my opinion just doesnt make sense. as karote said his "reads" dont really sound genuine, karote is the only person he even made anything close to an actual read on, and idk if its coincidence, but karote happens to be voting for him still iirc. also im confused as to how he got %'s. just doesnt add up |
Korjivag said: Are you sure? you just vote me out of nowhere and when other ask why, you not respond.. And look how you react to my post, you sound kind.. hostile? Why me ignoring questions correlate as me being reactive type? That's just my tone, I don't mean to be hostile. |
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| at first my read on korjivag possibly being scum was really just based off the fact that he was inactive which I agree, not really cause for scum, but now I just get all around scummy vibes |
| Could go for Korjivag. Still suspicious of aa-dono, so I am hesitant to vote there, but she has literally voted each of my suspects. Really throwing me off. Korj's read list looks like he was coached. I don't like it. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| vote: Korjivag |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
RE said: Could go for Korjivag. Still suspicious of aa-dono, so I am hesitant to vote there, but she has literally voted each of my suspects. Really throwing me off. Korj's read list looks like he was coached. I don't like it. ? What part of it look that way? |
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Astros said: I believe there to be one active mafia and two lurkers. Could be biased in thinking aa-dono/Korj/Kiiruma are scum.Town do you believe that mafia is active in this Day One? If you answer Yes then please provide evidence to support your answer. If you answer No then please either support your answer or give a rebuttal to one claiming Yes. Additionally. Is it beneficial for Mafia to be active Day One? Why do you believe this to be the case? What are the advantages and risks involved? How have Mafia acted during Day One in past games for you? In general, assuming this is the average rand, there are a couple categories of scum: the slankers, the powerwolfies, the "doing the bear minimum," and the serial bussers. (I fall into the "doing the bear minimum" category, I'd say, just to stay out of the PoE.) It depends on the rand, really. New scum tend to get frozen, with a couple exceptions. People who've played the game a lot might fall into "doing the bear minimum." People who play wolf to win (and are good at it) either fall into powerwolfies or serial bussers. I'd say it depends on the kind of player you are, but generally, unless town have meta on you, being inactive is better than being active (but still have "good" posts in case people want to look back at you.) Inactive scum usually forces town to go after each other and allows them to pick sides. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
RE said: It struck me weird aswell, but coached was not the word that came to my mind. more seems like he didnt really have any reads and was kind of makin everything up on the spot. the only thing close to a real read, was his read on karote and just so happens karote was voting for himCould go for Korjivag. Still suspicious of aa-dono, so I am hesitant to vote there, but she has literally voted each of my suspects. Really throwing me off. Korj's read list looks like he was coached. I don't like it. |
yurkin said: His suspicions of ironace and Karote have been voiced over and over again and they are the highest suspects for some. He's agreeing with the rest of the thread.RE said: Could go for Korjivag. Still suspicious of aa-dono, so I am hesitant to vote there, but she has literally voted each of my suspects. Really throwing me off. Korj's read list looks like he was coached. I don't like it. ? What part of it look that way? Also the "timing" of it. Looks like his scumbuddies just pushed him to post and that's what he did. With a couple exceptions, a person randomly popping in with a reads list might just be scum because they lack the interactions to appear passable so a reads list looks like they did the work (but they are just trying to ward off suspicion). |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| π Karote- POSS. TOWN?(seemed a little reactive in regards with korjivag) π Phraze-POSS. TOWN? π PaiiiaRomana-POSS. SCUM? (playing method just seems off and kind of random feels scummy) π Korjivag- POSS. SCUM? :/ (just srolled in as if he hasnt been missing majority of the game) π RE- POSS. TOWN?(could be pocketing me, but could be genuine) π lil_logic340 - DEF TOWN π Wisp -??? π Kiiruma- ??? (first scum reads were based off inactivity) π aa-dono-??? π ironace- POSS. SCUM?( not really sure why so many people have scum read i dont really understand) π Astros- POSS.TOWN? (seems to actually be trying to figure things out, even before signing off) π yurkin- ??? |
lil_logic340 said: The whole list just gives me the feeling he wanted to appease people rather than was actually solving. I don't think the things he listed about Karote are particularly AI.RE said: It struck me weird aswell, but coached was not the word that came to my mind. more seems like he didnt really have any reads and was kind of makin everything up on the spot. the only thing close to a real read, was his read on karote and just so happens karote was voting for himCould go for Korjivag. Still suspicious of aa-dono, so I am hesitant to vote there, but she has literally voted each of my suspects. Really throwing me off. Korj's read list looks like he was coached. I don't like it. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
RE said: after more elaboration on why you think he could be coached makes sense. if hes mafia, his scum buddies would want him to make a few posts or else hed get swapped out for another person and I cant imagine that being good for scum . he also does seem to just agree with the group, doesnt seem like he put much of his own thought into it, just trying to look townHis suspicions of ironace and Karote have been voiced over and over again and they are the highest suspects for some. He's agreeing with the rest of the thread. Also the "timing" of it. Looks like his scumbuddies just pushed him to post and that's what he did. With a couple exceptions, a person randomly popping in with a reads list might just be scum because they lack the interactions to appear passable so a reads list looks like they did the work (but they are just trying to ward off suspicion). |
lil_logic340Oct 13, 2018 6:20 AM
RE said: I dont really think theyre AI just that it seems to be the only thing that even sounds like a read whereas everyone else got something that didnt even sound like an actual readlil_logic340 said: The whole list just gives me the feeling he wanted to appease people rather than was actually solving. I don't think the things he listed about Karote are particularly AI.It struck me weird aswell, but coached was not the word that came to my mind. more seems like he didnt really have any reads and was kind of makin everything up on the spot. the only thing close to a real read, was his read on karote and just so happens karote was voting for him |
lil_logic340 said: That means the other scumbuddy would be an active player :3RE said: after more elaboration on why you think he could be coached makes sense. if hes mafia, his scum buddies would want him to make a few posts or else hed get swapped out for another person and I cant imagine that being good for scum . he also does seem to just agree with the group, doesnt seem like he put much of his own thought into it, just trying to look townHis suspicions of ironace and Karote have been voiced over and over again and they are the highest suspects for some. He's agreeing with the rest of the thread. Also the "timing" of it. Looks like his scumbuddies just pushed him to post and that's what he did. With a couple exceptions, a person randomly popping in with a reads list might just be scum because they lack the interactions to appear passable so a reads list looks like they did the work (but they are just trying to ward off suspicion). |
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aa-dono said: Not necessarily, though likely. Definitely someone with experience.lil_logic340 said: That means the other scumbuddy would be an active player :3after more elaboration on why you think he could be coached makes sense. if hes mafia, his scum buddies would want him to make a few posts or else hed get swapped out for another person and I cant imagine that being good for scum . he also does seem to just agree with the group, doesnt seem like he put much of his own thought into it, just trying to look town |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
lil_logic340 said: Was there a particular post that makes you think it's scummy?π PaiiiaRomana-POSS. SCUM? (playing method just seems off and kind of random feels scummy) |
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RE said: why do you think the other scumbuddie doesnt necessarily have to be someone who is active?aa-dono said: Not necessarily, though likely. Definitely someone with experience.That means the other scumbuddy would be an active player :3 |
aa-dono said: no I dont even really have a scum read on her, im inexperienced but ive never heard of or seen anyone using her method of sorting people between town and scum. her method just seemed random to me.lil_logic340 said: Was there a particular post that makes you think it's scummy?π PaiiiaRomana-POSS. SCUM? (playing method just seems off and kind of random feels scummy) |
lil_logic340 said: Because coaching doesn't really require someone to be active. Like if I were scum, I'd probably be a lot less active but I would still give advice to a buddy in the chat.RE said: why do you think the other scumbuddie doesnt necessarily have to be someone who is active?Not necessarily, though likely. Definitely someone with experience. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| vc in the works ~ |
ironace said: He's kind of sheeping off Wisp's case on you, I think.@_wisp yurkin,astros,kiiruma,phraze(some of the people i cant get a read on) im certain some of these people are scum what was astros case on me again? What are your thoughts on the other players? Are they all town, or no? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
lil_logic340 said: Ah yea, I get that part. I'm putting it as you have a gut feeling and was wondering if it's worth exploring. Sometimes random feeling are worth exploring if you know what causes it.aa-dono said: no I dont even really have a scum read on her, im inexperienced but ive never heard of or seen anyone using her method of sorting people between town and scum. her method just seemed random to me.Was there a particular post that makes you think it's scummy? If that method works for her, it shouldn't be a problem. Sometimes people just work differently ^^" |
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| Vote: Korjivag |
RE said: His suspicions of ironace and Karote have been voiced over and over again and they are the highest suspects for some. He's agreeing with the rest of the thread. Also the "timing" of it. Looks like his scumbuddies just pushed him to post and that's what he did. With a couple exceptions, a person randomly popping in with a reads list might just be scum because they lack the interactions to appear passable so a reads list looks like they did the work (but they are just trying to ward off suspicion). Smeacking from experience have never seen someone being coached while this is mentioned many times in mafia games it doesn't really happen in reality. The poping part I agree with tho. Edit: autocorrect lmao, *speaking from |
yurkinOct 13, 2018 6:45 AM
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ironace said: Are they scum because you can't read them?@_wisp yurkin,astros,kiiruma,phraze(some of the people i cant get a read on) im certain some of these people are scum what was astros case on me again? What makes the others town then? iirc Astros wanted a consensus lynch. And he felt your case was better to go for. |
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π VOTE COUNT 1.3 π Korjivag (5): Karote, aa-dono, RE, Wisp, lil_logic Karote (2): yurkin, Korjivag ironace (2): Astros, Phraze aa-dono (1): PaiiiaRomana RE (1): Kiiruma π Not voting: ironace π T I M E R please tell me if there are any errors <3 |
RuuryMercuryOct 13, 2018 7:50 AM
| I'm not against the Korjivag vote due to how they worded the original vote on me. Was a bit too hard of a push making me feel like they could be scum (But they're still less of a read than RE). I should be around for EOD for once so if we end up CFD'ing last minute, I'll be here to place my vote. My only question is, if Korj flips scum, do we have a slight sus on Yurkin and Phraze for voting Karote, the main leader on the Korj wagon? |
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Kiiruma said: No, their votes came before Korj became a wagon. Phraze has been pretty townie and yurkin I have lean town right now.I'm not against the Korjivag vote due to how they worded the original vote on me. Was a bit too hard of a push making me feel like they could be scum (But they're still less of a read than RE). I should be around for EOD for once so if we end up CFD'ing last minute, I'll be here to place my vote. My only question is, if Korj flips scum, do we have a slight sus on Yurkin and Phraze for voting Karote, the main leader on the Korj wagon? Why is that your main concern when I am voting Korj? Shouldn't your read on me take precedence, as I am your main suspect? How will Korj flipping scum change your view on me? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Kiiruma said: to answer the last part yes, if he flips scum, there Is sus on yurkin and phrase. but also I fhe flips town, the scum more than likely lies inside those who voted for him imoI'm not against the Korjivag vote due to how they worded the original vote on me. Was a bit too hard of a push making me feel like they could be scum (But they're still less of a read than RE). I should be around for EOD for once so if we end up CFD'ing last minute, I'll be here to place my vote. My only question is, if Korj flips scum, do we have a slight sus on Yurkin and Phraze for voting Karote, the main leader on the Korj wagon? |
| with my last post, if theyre votes did come before korjivag wagon, then theres no correlation imo |
| Lol, I thought phase change was like now, we have about another hour. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Kiiruma said: I'll also add, this looks like you're trying to set up mislynches, if Korj is scum.I'm not against the Korjivag vote due to how they worded the original vote on me. Was a bit too hard of a push making me feel like they could be scum (But they're still less of a read than RE). I should be around for EOD for once so if we end up CFD'ing last minute, I'll be here to place my vote. My only question is, if Korj flips scum, do we have a slight sus on Yurkin and Phraze for voting Karote, the main leader on the Korj wagon? Maybe I'm just wrong on aa-dono and the team is Korj/Kiiruma/??? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
RE said: this is the final hour to make any kind of change, and to figure out what happens in result of whoever gets lynched flipping either town or scumLol, I thought phase change was like now, we have about another hour. |
RE said: You are wrong on me :PKiiruma said: I'll also add, this looks like you're trying to set up mislynches, if Korj is scum.I'm not against the Korjivag vote due to how they worded the original vote on me. Was a bit too hard of a push making me feel like they could be scum (But they're still less of a read than RE). I should be around for EOD for once so if we end up CFD'ing last minute, I'll be here to place my vote. My only question is, if Korj flips scum, do we have a slight sus on Yurkin and Phraze for voting Karote, the main leader on the Korj wagon? Maybe I'm just wrong on aa-dono and the team is Korj/Kiiruma/??? What do you mean by he's setting up mislynch? |
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| @RE what are your thought on if kojivag flips scum? what about if he flips town? |
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