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Mar 22, 2017 8:49 AM

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_Claire_ said:
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If it's not due to activity then what is it for? Saying Purity is town? Care to give some support from this game?

For someone who doesn't meta play you sure have been using it a lot to justify your recent arguments.

I told you he lay low more than he usually is.

God do you even read my post.

Thoughts before I go: followind is indeed very weird with that vote placed now, and his reluctance to take side on Grape/CP is sth I will note later on. Another note is, I am very troubled about CP's alignment, but I would resolve it later on.
I'm working on sorting that now as I found that move odd as well. And FYI yes I did read that but that isn't really alignment indicative to me. I have seen people's activity drop due to IRL. Is he lurking or just not in the thread? You seem to think that it is due to him rolling scum right? So what was the point of saying CP is town from a scum!grrr mindset? Help me to understand it?
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logic340 said:
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Wait, he actually said that? Could u link me to that post?
Lam-B was the first to pick up on it in #94.
#65 - He votes Rosie for posting a picture of a dog
#75 - He asks Crossbell to join the RE train with him.
#94 - Lam-B notices the discrepancy
#96 - A little defensive but admits he forgot his vote?
#98 - Her Lam-B states he was saying he was blind but Grape's response still works.
#101 - Back on RE no reasons given Choo Choo, no brakes, etc...
That's interesting. Thanks for finding all these.
It didn't look meaningful for me at that time, so I don't remember if anyone asked him about it.

@Grapefruit21 Why did u vote 15 minutes after that post and not right after when u understood that u forgot(?) to vote RE?
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_Claire_ said:
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Yup I think I am very comfortable with my vote on Claire for the time being.

@followind how does Claire look to you for the push on CP and subsequent switch to LHF grrr? I understand you moved with her but you were opposed to a CP lynch like I was.

You voted Grape, are you drunk? :/
Nope I am not drunk I am at work...
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Vote: Claire
and there that should do it. I feel good about this just as I did earlier you haven't alleviated any of my suspicions.
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Mar 22, 2017 8:54 AM

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_Claire_ said:
@CorruptedPurity what do you think of Grrr?


Really needed to sleep but I checked my phone and thought deep. I could've just went to sleep and not care if I wake up to a Grape lynch or my lynch but I think there's more to this game.

grrr said:
Oh nevermind actually CP is town confirmed.

I forgot who the 123 guy was, so I went back to check. CP is the 123 guy. Can we lynch someone else today? (like logic? but honestly anyone but CP is fine. ) I vouch for CP .

I really don't want to sound like an ungrateful bitch (I most probably will after this and please forgive me Grrr if you're town) but I think that his town-read on me is a bit forced and doesn't make sense. My 123 post was a post to point out that Grape is suspiciously moving his vote around the trains to make it a 3 way tie and I 123 it for easy reference in the future. I don't see how that autoclears me as town. Every post afterwards he treats me like an autoclear town when he shouldn't be.

My theory: If grrr is maf, he would be trying to white knight me so that when I do get lynched which seemed likely at that point, he would have a benefit over others cos he townread me.

Not gonna meta read grrr. Also, grrr, I know how I sound after you backed me up but my reasons are sound and make sense. Why would you treat me like a 100% town clear for a slightly pro-town post? So if you're town, please please forgive me...

Vote:grrr

Also, as much as I am very infuriated with how things are turning out with Grape, I think there's a still a good chance he's town tunneling on me for all the wrong reasons. Besides, he'll still be here to tunnel on me tomorrow and the next day and the next day and the next day.... so I can resolve my issue with him later in the game.

Ok, but I really need to sleep now. Really hope I can wake up to positive results. Good night.
Mar 22, 2017 8:55 AM

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logic340 said:
_Claire_ said:

You voted Grape, are you drunk? :/
Nope I am not drunk I am at work...
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Vote: Claire
and there that should do it. I feel good about this just as I did earlier you haven't alleviated any of my suspicions.

Its alright I wont waste my breathe trying to convince you to think of me otherwise.

Anyway talking to you is like talking to a machine and I am tired as hell lol.
Mar 22, 2017 8:58 AM

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@CorruptedPurity what do you think of Grrr?


Really needed to sleep but I checked my phone and thought deep. I could've just went to sleep and not care if I wake up to a Grape lynch or my lynch but I think there's more to this game.

grrr said:
Oh nevermind actually CP is town confirmed.

I forgot who the 123 guy was, so I went back to check. CP is the 123 guy. Can we lynch someone else today? (like logic? but honestly anyone but CP is fine. ) I vouch for CP .

I really don't want to sound like an ungrateful bitch (I most probably will after this and please forgive me Grrr if you're town) but I think that his town-read on me is a bit forced and doesn't make sense. My 123 post was a post to point out that Grape is suspiciously moving his vote around the trains to make it a 3 way tie and I 123 it for easy reference in the future. I don't see how that autoclears me as town. Every post afterwards he treats me like an autoclear town when he shouldn't be.

My theory: If grrr is maf, he would be trying to white knight me so that when I do get lynched which seemed likely at that point, he would have a benefit over others cos he townread me.

Not gonna meta read grrr. Also, grrr, I know how I sound after you backed me up but my reasons are sound and make sense. Why would you treat me like a 100% town clear for a slightly pro-town post? So if you're town, please please forgive me...

Vote:grrr

Also, as much as I am very infuriated with how things are turning out with Grape, I think there's a still a good chance he's town tunneling on me for all the wrong reasons. Besides, he'll still be here to tunnel on me tomorrow and the next day and the next day and the next day.... so I can resolve my issue with him later in the game.

Ok, but I really need to sleep now. Really hope I can wake up to positive results. Good night.
Doesn't this feel a little too blatant for white knighting though? Doesn't seem like something scum would do because it is going to make people look his way especially given his activity to this point. I may be wrong but I don't now how to read that post honestly it confuses me but doesn't seem scummy.
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CorruptedPurity said:
_Claire_ said:
@CorruptedPurity what do you think of Grrr?


Really needed to sleep but I checked my phone and thought deep. I could've just went to sleep and not care if I wake up to a Grape lynch or my lynch but I think there's more to this game.

grrr said:
Oh nevermind actually CP is town confirmed.

I forgot who the 123 guy was, so I went back to check. CP is the 123 guy. Can we lynch someone else today? (like logic? but honestly anyone but CP is fine. ) I vouch for CP .

I really don't want to sound like an ungrateful bitch (I most probably will after this and please forgive me Grrr if you're town) but I think that his town-read on me is a bit forced and doesn't make sense. My 123 post was a post to point out that Grape is suspiciously moving his vote around the trains to make it a 3 way tie and I 123 it for easy reference in the future. I don't see how that autoclears me as town. Every post afterwards he treats me like an autoclear town when he shouldn't be.

My theory: If grrr is maf, he would be trying to white knight me so that when I do get lynched which seemed likely at that point, he would have a benefit over others cos he townread me.

Not gonna meta read grrr. Also, grrr, I know how I sound after you backed me up but my reasons are sound and make sense. Why would you treat me like a 100% town clear for a slightly pro-town post? So if you're town, please please forgive me...

Vote:grrr

Also, as much as I am very infuriated with how things are turning out with Grape, I think there's a still a good chance he's town tunneling on me for all the wrong reasons. Besides, he'll still be here to tunnel on me tomorrow and the next day and the next day and the next day.... so I can resolve my issue with him later in the game.

Ok, but I really need to sleep now. Really hope I can wake up to positive results. Good night.

Lols rather than that I feel like youre trying to save your ass

@Logic340 Waiting for what you have to say to this :)
Mar 22, 2017 8:59 AM

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_Claire_ said:
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Nope I am not drunk I am at work...
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Vote: Claire
and there that should do it. I feel good about this just as I did earlier you haven't alleviated any of my suspicions.

Its alright I wont waste my breathe trying to convince you to think of me otherwise.

Anyway talking to you is like talking to a machine and I am tired as hell lol.
Fair enough the search continues. I will look back over the grrr posts and see if I can figure anything out. You and CP on the same lynch how do you feel about that?
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Mar 22, 2017 9:00 AM

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_Claire_ said:
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Really needed to sleep but I checked my phone and thought deep. I could've just went to sleep and not care if I wake up to a Grape lynch or my lynch but I think there's more to this game.


I really don't want to sound like an ungrateful bitch (I most probably will after this and please forgive me Grrr if you're town) but I think that his town-read on me is a bit forced and doesn't make sense. My 123 post was a post to point out that Grape is suspiciously moving his vote around the trains to make it a 3 way tie and I 123 it for easy reference in the future. I don't see how that autoclears me as town. Every post afterwards he treats me like an autoclear town when he shouldn't be.

My theory: If grrr is maf, he would be trying to white knight me so that when I do get lynched which seemed likely at that point, he would have a benefit over others cos he townread me.

Not gonna meta read grrr. Also, grrr, I know how I sound after you backed me up but my reasons are sound and make sense. Why would you treat me like a 100% town clear for a slightly pro-town post? So if you're town, please please forgive me...

Vote:grrr

Also, as much as I am very infuriated with how things are turning out with Grape, I think there's a still a good chance he's town tunneling on me for all the wrong reasons. Besides, he'll still be here to tunnel on me tomorrow and the next day and the next day and the next day.... so I can resolve my issue with him later in the game.

Ok, but I really need to sleep now. Really hope I can wake up to positive results. Good night.

Lols rather than that I feel like youre trying to save your ass

@Logic340 Waiting for what you have to say to this :)


With you voting away from me. Grape has 3 while I and Grrr have 2. Changing my vote wouldn't save my ass anymore than leaving it on grape.
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@amberwillow can you share your thoughts with me on grrr ad how quickly this train has formed on him?
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logic340 said:
_Claire_ said:

Its alright I wont waste my breathe trying to convince you to think of me otherwise.

Anyway talking to you is like talking to a machine and I am tired as hell lol.
Fair enough the search continues. I will look back over the grrr posts and see if I can figure anything out. You and CP on the same lynch how do you feel about that?

Hmm.. to be honest? More convinced than ever that CP is scum and Grrr is town.
Mar 22, 2017 9:03 AM

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CorruptedPurity said:
_Claire_ said:

Lols rather than that I feel like youre trying to save your ass

@Logic340 Waiting for what you have to say to this :)


With you voting away from me. Grape has 3 while I and Grrr have 2. Changing my vote wouldn't save my ass anymore than leaving it on grape.

Dont even bother to read the thread? Logic voted me, followind voted Grrr. So Grrr is leading now.
Mar 22, 2017 9:04 AM

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CorruptedPurity said:
_Claire_ said:

Lols rather than that I feel like youre trying to save your ass

@Logic340 Waiting for what you have to say to this :)


With you voting away from me. Grape has 3 while I and Grrr have 2. Changing my vote wouldn't save my ass anymore than leaving it on grape.
Youre vote on Grrr makes it 3 votes on him Claire, followind and CP. Hm.....now I have more things to consider.
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Also tbh, I initially did not want to vote grape, but it really did feel like he forced my hand. Now that I've settled down abit and look at things objectively, I don't feel like the grape train is the way to go. If anything, his frustration and salt towards me only shows that he's eager to win as town instead of being a calculative scum. Sure he tunnels hard on me, but that's a very grape thing to do.

This doesn't supersede my scum-read posts of him tho.
Mar 22, 2017 9:05 AM

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@Kit, @Gruffin, or @Soren can we get a Vote Count?
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Okay I am not gonna regret this anymore as I am convinced:

Vote: CorruptedPurity
Mar 22, 2017 9:08 AM

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_Claire_ said:
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With you voting away from me. Grape has 3 while I and Grrr have 2. Changing my vote wouldn't save my ass anymore than leaving it on grape.

Dont even bother to read the thread? Logic voted me, followind voted Grrr. So Grrr is leading now.


Correction, Grrr HAD 2. You and followind. Logic's vote onto you was while I was writing that post. So at that point of time:
Grape had 3
Grrr had 2
I had 2

I could've kept my vote at grape and still would've saved my ass but I changed it to Grrr for
Grape 2
Grrr 3
Me 2

Thus, my vote wasn't just to "save my ass". I actually thought it out.

I do note that Grape only has 1 now and me not changing my vote would've made it a 3 way tie.
Mar 22, 2017 9:10 AM

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_Claire_ said:
Okay I am not gonna regret this anymore as I am convinced:

Vote: CorruptedPurity




Ok, fine do what you want. I'm too sleepy to make an argument anyways. Just remember my post for when I flip.
Mar 22, 2017 9:11 AM

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CorruptedPurity said:
_Claire_ said:
Okay I am not gonna regret this anymore as I am convinced:

Vote: CorruptedPurity




Ok, fine do what you want. I'm too sleepy to make an argument anyways. Just remember my post for when I flip.

Lols yeah its late for us :'>Have a good night~
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PentaFlare said:

I should clarify. Trying to pick out teammates is the kind of preflip association I find bad. Saying someone is unaligned is different. It just means they aren't partners because their interactions doesn't seem like scum v scum. Picking partners is bad because if either of those players are town, which you don't know, the read falls apart. Unaligned pairs works in many cases. If one player flips town, you can use that kind of read to say the other is either town or scum. If one flips scum, it suggests the other is town. It works either way. If one of a pair of "teammates" flips town, you have suddenly made a big mistake.

Also, another really crucial difference is that you are basing your read on your preflip, Cross is just noting it for later.
So what I am getting at that you are misconstruing is that I cannot say you and Grape are unaligned due to the way you softballed your interactions with one another. I am not saying you are a team I am saying I cannot say you are not a team. Kind of like how we can say that RE and willow being a team is unlikely at this point.
So I am reading this for few pages and am disturbed of this since yesterday (my) evening we with RE for the time being kinda sorted it out about the questions and answers.
So, why exactly u say that we with RE can't be of the same alignment?
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🐭 Vote Count 1.6 🐭
CorruptedPurity (3) Grapefruit21, PentaFlare, _Claire_
Grrr (2) followind, CorruptedPurity
Logic340 (2) Crossbell, Grrr
RE1031 (1) Lam-B
PentaFlare (1) Sollux16
Oyasumi_Rosie (1) RE1031
_Claire_ (1) Logic340

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Oyasumi_Rosie, amberwillow

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1)Dunno how you define pressure, but I believed that I've (successfully) pressured grape. When I say pressure, I mean applying pressure to which will cause them to react, and from the reaction I can analyse to gain more information on whether my read is right or not. I don't want to change the way they play, I want to understand the way they play and whether it is pro-town or anti-town.

2)I wouldn't be interested in learning about cross yet. He'd post enough by the time I want to get a read on him, priority for me was getting as much information as possible. And arguably, we got more information from followind and amberwillow and rosie reacting to the question than cross. As I said, I never intended to hinder your attempt to read cross. But you can always do that at another time.

3)You prefer for me to just vote Grape without hearing out everything first? And yes, I'm going to push him until I find something to support my vote. If I can't find anything to support my vote, then that would clear Grape for me.

Also, I don't know really understand your anti-town playstyle but if you're really sure you know what you're doing, I'll leave you be for now...
I am wondering what kind of information u got from me. As I recal, I wasn't thrown back about his hypo-story and suggested for u who were like oh-mai-god-what-is-this, not to be too positive about that so called claim. Is there anything more? *curious*
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logic340 said:
So what I am getting at that you are misconstruing is that I cannot say you and Grape are unaligned due to the way you softballed your interactions with one another. I am not saying you are a team I am saying I cannot say you are not a team. Kind of like how we can say that RE and willow being a team is unlikely at this point.
So I am reading this for few pages and am disturbed of this since yesterday (my) evening we with RE for the time being kinda sorted it out about the questions and answers.
So, why exactly u say that we with RE can't be of the same alignment?
The reason I feel that way is due to your interactions with RE. Now obviously I am not 100% on this but it stands to reason with the way you two went at one another that you are not a team putting on theatrics (though I could be wrong). Not saying you cannot both be town, that is not what unaligned pair means, what I am saying is I find it highly unlikely that you two at mafia together. T/S, S/T, or T/T but not S/S.

🐭 Vote Count 1.5 🐭
CorruptedPurity (3) Grapefruit21, PentaFlare, _Claire_
Grrr (2) followind, CorruptedPurity
Logic340 (2) Crossbell, Grrr
RE1031 (1) Lam-B
PentaFlare (1) Sollux16
Oyasumi_Rosie (1) RE1031
_Claire_ (1) Logic340

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Oyasumi_Rosie, amberwillow

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That train on grrr formed rather quickly.
Still got these RVS votes on me....
@Grapefruit21 do you find the VC gross as well?
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@Oyasumi_Rosie I would really like to hear your thoughts on this game. Preferably Me vs. Claire, Grapefruit/Claire vs. CP, and the quick train the formed on grrr. Also do you have a reads list at this point? A lot of fluffing and you haven't added much else.
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Ugh, I'm so sorry guys for not being engaged in this game. I've just been so busy with schoolwork and other duties like modding another game on another site.

I think I'll post my instinctual gut reactions when I start catching up (which should be around now) so that I can do that quicker.
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I have to go soon and won't be back until maybe half an hour (hopefully earlier) before the deadline.
I'm sticking with my vote on Oyasumi_Rosie for two reasons in particular: lack of contribution and the vote on Grapefruit. Said this earlier but Grapefruit is an easy lynch target (and it seems CorruptedPurity is as well). Could be nothing, but she hasn't voted for anyone else.
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not.
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I have to go soon and won't be back until maybe half an hour (hopefully earlier) before the deadline.
I'm sticking with my vote on Oyasumi_Rosie for two reasons in particular: lack of contribution and the vote on Grapefruit. Said this earlier but Grapefruit is an easy lynch target (and it seems CorruptedPurity is as well). Could be nothing, but she hasn't voted for anyone else.
Do you think they are both easy lynch targets based on how things are going this game or just in general?

How do you feel about Claire and the formation of the grrr train?
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Ugh, I'm so sorry guys for not being engaged in this game. I've just been so busy with schoolwork and other duties like modding another game on another site.

I think I'll post my instinctual gut reactions when I start catching up (which should be around now) so that I can do that quicker.
Any chance we can get that vote to go somewhere useful now?
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Grapefruit21 said:
followind said:

I would say Oyasumi which I will gladly vote since he's reasoning came a bit off for me..
Why would you lynch Grape then Lynch Penta whatever flip they have?
Also he fluffed a lot and also doesn't provide a reason for his scumread on Penta and Grape which I think he have since he wanted them both killed( if he had please enlighten me)

I like this, find a couple quotes to support your read and we've got something going.

And one thought for the thread in general I apologize for posting a ton and walls making it hard to catch up. But as you make your way through the thread I'd ask you who seems emotional?

And my reads top 3 town: Sollux, amber, and Penta

Top 3 scum: CPurity, Rosie, and RE.
Tbh, during this phase u looked the most emotional to me. Especially the part where it was talked about how u should cop-checked and peeps were talking a lot about how they think u are baddie. At some points it looked like u are panicking.

On the other hand CP sometimes appears as to lack in showing emotions as if trying to look calm and collected. (Tho can't say the same when he snapped at u for pointing things in a strange(?) manner)
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Can someone link me to the case on CorruptedPurity? I was townreading him earlier for being fairly aggressive out of the gate, but I am unsure why he is getting wagonned.
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Grapefruit21 said:
@Oyasumi_Rosie
@Sollux16
@Crossbell
@followind
@PentaFlare
@grrr

This group in particular I want reads from. You need to state how you feel about about CorruptedPurity. And If you don't want to lynch them you need to make a proper case to convince us to vote with you. Your vote is not worthwhile on it's own. You have to convince us to come with you.
I am worried about the ending of the last game affect my reads for this one. That is why I felt like if I voted CP now, it would feel like OMGYS (for winning the last game). I feel like I am just auto town readings Logic and CP which makes me trust the least, but that isn't their fault. You and Claire should make sure you aren't doing the same.

And that is where that ends. No one else is really scummy to me. The Penta thing is super annoying, but I actually blame everyone who hopped on it afterwards. It was extremely clear to me that he wasn't claiming, and people were using that rile up feathers.

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@Crossbell ahh you're making me blush. So at the time of posting you didn't have a strong lean on any of us since you didn't narrow down further. Is that correct?
Yes.

I have a townread on CP and Lamby but so much has gone on in the thread since I was out for most of the day yesterday that I need to catch up and provide my thoughts
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Is PentaFlare normally this cryptic as scum? The last performance I've seen where he intentionally withheld information about his own play was in Stardust Crusaders Mafia, which I think garnered him a fair amount of suspicion early.

Logic/Grapefruit: How would you say Penta played in Haruhi Mafia (shame on me since I knew I modded the game, but I didn't really read along). Was he this cryptic or was he more open with his play?
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Ahh, okay. I see the case on CP now.

CP's shading/doubtcasting of Grapefruit was the only real thing that pinged me, but I thought that his aggressiveness and vote analysis felt like an overzealous townie.

Hm.
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Crossbell said:
Is PentaFlare normally this cryptic as scum? The last performance I've seen where he intentionally withheld information about his own play was in Stardust Crusaders Mafia, which I think garnered him a fair amount of suspicion early.

Logic/Grapefruit: How would you say Penta played in Haruhi Mafia (shame on me since I knew I modded the game, but I didn't really read along). Was he this cryptic or was he more open with his play?
PentaFlare hit us with truth in plain sight in Haruhi. RVS from soren said Penta got a scum role PM. Penta said you only know because you got one too. So his opening post to Grapefruit piqued my interest. Not so sure about being cryptic though I scum read him in Haruhi but couldn't get it through. I can say that this isn't out of the realm of his scum game (though Grape said the same though he town reads him I believe). I have a slight scum lean on Penta.
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I feel like CorruptedPurity is getting extremely overdefensive at my point in my catchup (on page 7 now).

Will wait to see if he starts scumhunting or not.
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Ahh, okay. I see the case on CP now.

CP's shading/doubtcasting of Grapefruit was the only real thing that pinged me, but I thought that his aggressiveness and vote analysis felt like an overzealous townie.

Hm.
I just finished a game as scum with CP and while I can say there are some similarities I cannot say they definitely point to him being scum here. So I would like to ask you do you think that CP would show me and Claire (two people who were just scum with him) the same trick from his scum bag if he was scum here?
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1. This first statement is a lot of wine and actually acts to shade RE which is why I asked if you though she was trying to protect me or herself. I felt you were a bit nitpicky with this one which is why I asked for more clarification.
2. I didn't miss anything I was trying to understand where you were coming from with you question because it was so open ended that I could come to the conclusions I did. I though you were inferring that her and I or her and Claire were a team so I asked you to clarify it. Not sure how not voting me was taking care of her image can you elaborate on that. second person on an RVS train usually doesn't get flack shti grrr is 4th saying nothing and is under no pressure with less than 10 posts and little content or game solving anything.
3. This one is from my PoV I am town so the only way it makes sense is if Claire is her teammate. Keeping up appearances that early seems unlikely to me.
4. I followed your conversation which is why I had a few questions for clarification. I town read you slightly but those questions needed to be answered for me to feel more comfortable. I kind of get a t/t vibe from your interaction with RE as I think mafia wouldn't have made the dog part which drew your attention. The voting for a reason thing is weird though since there really is no reason to vote during RVS unless you have preconceived bias there. I am not asking you to look back into RE though she drew my attention while I was trying to talk to you about where you were coming from by butting into our conversation.
I get it why it felt nitpicky my first question actually was of this kind, cuz I wanted to get a reaction But nah, I was thinking about how she appears from her point, not about her protecting one of u.
You think so? Well I was mafia ages ago, but I remember being cautious of each of my post as to not mess up something. If that was the case with her or someone else, then I wouldn't really be surprised if they were to think about appearances then. Hm, how to say.. At first is RVS, where people get reactions from votes and if the 2nd person right away voted the same person like 1st then some people might come in questioning and commenting u "why did u vote them when they already have a vote on them. Wouldn't it be more meaningful to vote another person so that we would get more info from people?" and such. Is it clearlier now?
Does t/t mean town/town?
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Extremely dislike Claire on page 8; she OMGUSes Logic and hops onto the CorruptedPurity wagon without adding much original reasoning to it. If CP is town, then the odds of Claire being scum rise dramatically, I think.
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logic340 said:

@Oyasumi_Rosie stop with all the fluffing or get the rope. Some fluff is fine but we need content from you.
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Crossbell said:
Ahh, okay. I see the case on CP now.

CP's shading/doubtcasting of Grapefruit was the only real thing that pinged me, but I thought that his aggressiveness and vote analysis felt like an overzealous townie.

Hm.
I just finished a game as scum with CP and while I can say there are some similarities I cannot say they definitely point to him being scum here. So I would like to ask you do you think that CP would show me and Claire (two people who were just scum with him) the same trick from his scum bag if he was scum here?
I don't know? I've never been in a situation where I've rolled scum successively multiple times with the same people, so I am afraid that I cannot answer this question in much detail.
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Odd.... I'm sure I recall being unable to get positive vibes going your way or ever having a "good look" according to you, even when slapping scum left and right?
I hope this is the game where I finally get a correct read on you!

I liked your early posts though, they seemed more focused on scumhunting than mechanics IMO.
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logic340 said:
1. This first statement is a lot of wine and actually acts to shade RE which is why I asked if you though she was trying to protect me or herself. I felt you were a bit nitpicky with this one which is why I asked for more clarification.
2. I didn't miss anything I was trying to understand where you were coming from with you question because it was so open ended that I could come to the conclusions I did. I though you were inferring that her and I or her and Claire were a team so I asked you to clarify it. Not sure how not voting me was taking care of her image can you elaborate on that. second person on an RVS train usually doesn't get flack shti grrr is 4th saying nothing and is under no pressure with less than 10 posts and little content or game solving anything.
3. This one is from my PoV I am town so the only way it makes sense is if Claire is her teammate. Keeping up appearances that early seems unlikely to me.
4. I followed your conversation which is why I had a few questions for clarification. I town read you slightly but those questions needed to be answered for me to feel more comfortable. I kind of get a t/t vibe from your interaction with RE as I think mafia wouldn't have made the dog part which drew your attention. The voting for a reason thing is weird though since there really is no reason to vote during RVS unless you have preconceived bias there. I am not asking you to look back into RE though she drew my attention while I was trying to talk to you about where you were coming from by butting into our conversation.
I get it why it felt nitpicky my first question actually was of this kind, cuz I wanted to get a reaction But nah, I was thinking about how she appears from her point, not about her protecting one of u.
You think so? Well I was mafia ages ago, but I remember being cautious of each of my post as to not mess up something. If that was the case with her or someone else, then I wouldn't really be surprised if they were to think about appearances then. Hm, how to say.. At first is RVS, where people get reactions from votes and if the 2nd person right away voted the same person like 1st then some people might come in questioning and commenting u "why did u vote them when they already have a vote on them. Wouldn't it be more meaningful to vote another person so that we would get more info from people?" and such. Is it clearlier now?
Does t/t mean town/town?
But we have a clear example of that happening right here in the thread with grapefruit voting me and Rosie voting Grapefruit. You are going into hypotheticals wehre I can come to any conclusion but the evidence doesn't suggest she did it to not have to answer for it. We can make that conclusion but that is a large jump based on what she posted.

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T/S = Town-Scum
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followind said:
Near the end of the day and I'm still confused whether I should vote grape or CP..
This is a tough decision for me to make tbh
Can anyone provide me with any insights?
Flip a coin

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logic340 said:
I just finished a game as scum with CP and while I can say there are some similarities I cannot say they definitely point to him being scum here. So I would like to ask you do you think that CP would show me and Claire (two people who were just scum with him) the same trick from his scum bag if he was scum here?
I don't know? I've never been in a situation where I've rolled scum successively multiple times with the same people, so I am afraid that I cannot answer this question in much detail.
Nah I wasn't talking about rolling scum successively together. I was saying if CP just rolled scum again (this would be 5 in a row) would he come right out and do the things that Claire and I would pick up on from his scum game. As stated there are similarities but that alone isn't enough and the behavior I am seeing here isn't screaming scum to me here the way it is to Claire and Grapefruit.
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Extremely dislike Claire on page 8; she OMGUSes Logic and hops onto the CorruptedPurity wagon without adding much original reasoning to it. If CP is town, then the odds of Claire being scum rise dramatically, I think.
Join the club It was rough going there for a minute with her. I don't like her at all right now. Not even using her meta like I am used to her doing. She avoided the question about Grapefruit's meta from purity then rudely answered it when she finally did.
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logic340 said:

@Oyasumi_Rosie stop with all the fluffing or get the rope. Some fluff is fine but we need content from you.
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Any thoughts on Grapefruti or Claire? You caught scum Claire in twins are you getting any of those vibes here?
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@Crossbell I would also like your thoughts on the grrr train formation and how quickly it happened?
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Unvote, vote Claire

Haven't finished reading but I have office hours to attend and Claire's bandwagon vote is not a good look.

Gonna finish catching up after office hours and will be here for EoD.

Thank you all for your patience! Was just extremely busy earlier today and yesterday.
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Tbh I have a better idea.

Looking at grrr, IIRC if he is town he usually acts a lot lot more anti-town with a lot of fluff and such. In this game I am not looking him doing this, and the fact he says CP is town bothers me as if he has hidden reason there. And wait if you say this is a weak reason: Grrr can be very harmful to town as we will never understand what he is thinking. Grrrr tend to be left alone, and as scum its a plus point.

Anyone with me?
Doesn't he come up with evil schemes anymore? Or is it only when set-up is unusual?

I agree that he might get harmful, but I wouldn't lynch him right now just because of what he could or couldn't so and rather have him as reserve lynch candidate, unless someone has a strong read on him atm and can convince us to vote him. Can't really imagine it on D1 though.
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