Kirarachin said: You have no idea how much this is me & my never ending frustrations since I started my job too!I really hate that I found this space so late, and I hate that I'm an adult who needs to work LOL, because there are so many things about Arata I want to write about, it's a shame really, I started so many threads about so many things regarding Arata and I couldn't finish any :( But you are right, I think sensei found herself in the middle of so many stories that she already started about the people in Tokyo specifically so she didn't want to start anything else about the people from Fukui including Arata, it's a shame. And I would love to read such analysis about Arata's family because I personally don't think that Arata got the best of families and/or was blessed with a "way-better" environment than Taichi's (even Chihaya by the way), I think, if sensei wanted to write sad stories about all of their families then it was very possible because they are all packed with suitable material. I forgot to share that in yesterday's streaming (as I read from a Japanese thread) a fan asked sensei who she liked more "Arata or Taichi" (I saw the question in the comment section, it's a Taichi fan who named themselves "Chihayaburu 17") and sensei answered that all the characters are the same for her, that she doesn't have any particular feelings for any of the characters, they're all just characters. That she likes Taichi, Chihaya, Arata & Nikuman-kun for example the same. She also said that Arata will come to Tokyo and that he seems to be a strong drinker xD she also said that Sumire's love doesn't come true but she is proud of her because she didn't run away from it and decided to hold onto it instead |
I also love what you said about how Chihaya's & Arata's meeting is powerful, I agree. it's like they both had this position in the family that is not really about themselves, Hajime sensei took care of Arata but being the grandson of an active eternal meijin, I know that he felt pressure from the start even as a side character in Hajime's life, and with the conflicts between his father & grandfather, he must have been watching from the side trying to be a good son (we saw him try the sports his dad told him to try despite loving karuta, he tried to please his father at the expense of \ht he himself wanted so as I said, he was like a mere side character in the story of his family like Chihaya was in her family too. That's why I freaking love when Chihaya told Taichi that Arata won't lose to anyone when it comes to karuta and he froze with these words after he was trying to let it go, it's like Chihaya's words suddenly set him as a main character and he felt alive, the same happened to Chihaya, she was nothing but her sistsr's shadow, but then Arata told her she can become the best in the world and she became the main character of her life in her eyes too. yes, so strong!! For the comment, it's not anything important but ofc I'll gladly help with anything you want to know, here is a translation of the comment (as I said, not very important, but my view of Taichi is not like MOST fans so when I read something close to my views, it's nice xD) I think Taichi's good deeds are more of a "can't leave them alone" kind of thing. Something like a "caretaker"? helping Arata find a karuta club, or helping to start a Mizusawa karuta club. are some examples. His actions may benefit Arata (as in he wouldn't want it, or wouldn't necessarily aim to help him), but he can't leave just him alone (as in, it's in Taichi's nature to be bothered by someone lacking something so he naturally helps but it doesn't mean that he necessarily WANTS to benefit that person, it's just in the flow of doing what he does) That's Taichi's virtue, and people around him love him for it. He's already balanced what he's done with what he's getting in return. He was rejected by Chihaya because of his cowardly acts, twisted attitude, and lack of passion. That's also balanced. Finally, you are welcome, I'm also glad she said she doesn't favor any character though I don't bye this xD, she definitely wanted Chihaya to be voted for more than any other character in the last poll as she is the heroine and favoring her means that she succeeded in unifying readers' povs regarding a protagonist which is hard to achieve for a mangaka, And I also believe that she likes to draw Taichi more than many other characters because the nature of his character gives her a chance to be creative in trying many different things, actions and reactions, writing and drawing, it's a rich element of the manga an I definitely think that mangakas enjoy being able to be creative. I also have a feeling that Arata is not ordinary to her because he is not ordinary in the world of "characters" (don't ask me to explain more I just have this feeling lol) |
Hi guys, I know that I should be focusing on my studies right now but I couldn't stop myself I made a new edit of my new meijin check it out look at it well and take in that handsome face and that beautiful stare and those deep eyes and get drunk!! may the last chapter be the happiest for us all wish me more good luck now xD |
iNameless_ said: We missed you being here and we certainly missed your wonderful edits but get out of here, leave, go finish what you have to finish then come back to write those long analysis & comments!Hi guys, I know that I should be focusing on my studies right now but I couldn't stop myself I made a new edit of my new meijin check it out look at it well and take in that handsome face and that beautiful stare and those deep eyes and get drunk!! may the last chapter be the happiest for us all wish me more good luck now xD thank you for the edit and I really wish you the best of luck! |
Mrs. Inokuma has a model. I'm glad to know that the depth of Chihaya is good because of Mrs. Inokuma's influence. It was good for Chihaya's depth. Taichi's mother is very proud, so her husband is very nice. Taichi respects his father. Taichi is not interested in food. I was thinking of the story as Chihaya's challenge to Shinobu, so I had decided that much, but not the winner. I knew that a luck of the draw in the final battle would be good. It took 50 volumes for Chihaya to reach the battle of destiny against Shigenobu. Since I used "chiha" at the beginning of the first volume, I needed to use other special cards for the battle of destiny. Arata was already decided to go to the Meijin tournament. I don't have any feelings for the characters, even though people say "the author likes Taichi" when he is or is not in a terrible situation. I like everyone. I think it is because there are many people who think about Taichi. Of course, there are other characters as well. I feel that I don't make my works by myself. Sumire's love is a pure love that will never come true. She is a girl who looks forward to the future. Sumire is a girl who doesn't run away from fun love and doesn't easily be swayed by those who say they love her. Taichi is the first person Sumire has fallen in love with. Taichi became the first person Sumire fell in love with. Eromu has no girlfriend. (My dark self is glad for this) I want to draw Rion and Makoto's first encounter. I wonder what kind of college student Arata will be in Tokyo. The work I admire and the work that made me who I am are two different things. I haven't decided on a spin-off yet. Should it be a fun story or a story that predicts the future? 49, The cover will be sunrise, Ren (lotus), and Taichi. After the Queen's competition, the examinations are waiting for us. It is not realistic to expect all of them to be accepted. If they fail, it will be either Nikuman-kun or Chihaya. OH.MY.GOD!!! Kana-chan and Desktomu-kun are not likely to fail. Also this comment: In the extra four-panel omake in volume 49, Hyoro-kun says, "The route for Sudo-san to become stronger is for Wataya to win. The only way is for the disciples to go for revenge. I guess Sudo-san will be treated as a disciple after all. INTERESTING! Also, isn't this cute? even as just mere illustrations sensei didn't forget to make Sumire chan throw loving glances at the cute Taichi above (and someone said as expected Chihaya wasn't drawn in that setting because Chihaya's feelings for Taichi are different from Sumire's and this reminds me of when Taichi started singing in the karaoke battle, all the girls looked at him blushing except for Chihaya) only 14 days till the last chapter ... |
MashimaTaichi_Jul 17, 2022 3:42 AM
That said, this is why I insisted on the "by our side" translation instead of "by my side" which kind of excludes Arata, it shouldn't because Suetsugu sensei did that before where she used one character's inner monologue to tell us about the feelings of a group like when Taichi was thinking: "what's this burning feeling" we all knew that's how he, Nishida & Komano were thinking all together but alas, some fans actually took the "by my side" as a exclusive ChihayaxTaichi moment saying that it's a response to Shinobu's question which card is by Chiha's side? but that's just limited reading if you ask me, it's true that Shinobu might have concluded that Tachi & Chiha are special for being only between Chihaya & Taichi but what the next panels were doing is that they corrected Shinobu's kind of conclusion by adding Arata in the scene and finally, Nishida made the right conclusion, Tachi is next to Chiha and Chihaya & Arata are also moving like the second half of the triangle, the whole thing makes team Chihayafuru. Sharing the thread here, I assume I can share in in Aratafuru FB group? I just wanted to add this concerning your pov about why Taichi was rejected, do you think, if Chihaya didn't have feelings for Arata, she would have considered Taichi? this is something I never thought about but you might be right, what made Chihaya give her answer right away, is remembering Arata's confession so she kind of knew that she wanted that instead of Taichi's. But I can't imagine her accepting him, maybe she would have been surprised and unsure what to say, Taichi would have told her to take her time and just consider him and then Chihaya either becomes conscious of him or just gets absorbed in karuta and he will have to be more assertive or Kana will do her best to keep reminding her? dunno.. For sensei, she kept saying that she doesn't create the work by herself many times in the past sometimes referring to fans supporting her sometimes the characters moving on their own, like when she said that she started the manga planning that Arata wins his first match vs Chihaya by taking all 25 cards but Chihaya showed her the determination to take SE, that's how she realized that Chihaya is alive on her own and she will be the one dictating her story on sensei and not the opposite (you are free to understand this the way you want because realistically, does it make sense to take it literally? What you said about Smire is so true. I personally never looked at her love as something including Taichi, it was always hers and I never expected sensei to make it happen, sensei doesn't patch things up just like that, I believe that even open endings, incomplete stories can make sense for her and carry a great message so yes. Arata being set to be the Meijin challenger has been so obvious since the beginning! I really don't understand people who thought otherwise. I also agree with what you said about Arata is perhaps not as easy as Taichi (and maybe Chihaya) to draw and develop. He is certainly not your usual male lead: he is shy and awkward, but also extremely bold at times. He is calm, but also crazy lol, he is quiet but also straightforward and doesn't mince words. He is chill but also extremely passionate. There's so much to him and I just feel sorry for people who won't take time to really pay attention to him and appreciate him, they're really missing out :) I was actually reading a bit in the Japanese thread and the amount of hate I found for Arata was just...wow!And when anyone tries to explain why they hate him, I feel like they either never tried to understand him or they just read a different manga. But you are right, he is not your typical male lead, and as I said, he is unusual. It's a real shame they won't be able to taste & enjoy this part of Chihayafuru. |
I generated a big controversy on the Chihayafuru subreddit by going against grain and advocating for the 'by our side' translation hwuwjduejduejdu lol yeah, I hear that you are the public enemy number one there hahaAnd I agree, it's completely trio focused, if there is anything between Chihaya & Taichi alone, it'll happen without Arata or with Arata clearly pushing the narrative to that direction. You are also right, those were Shinobu's thoughts regarding the cards and from the author at that point it was half the idea, the rest of it is when Arata is added to the panels there to make Shinobu's thoughts what it is, an incomplete information, Taichi was by Chihaya's side but for the whole trio the full info is: Taichi was by his two friends' side in many forms too and both will decide in this crucial moment based on this." I checked the Japanese forum and it surprised me to find out that so many (Taichi) fans believed that when Chihaya started breathing like Harada sensei taught he, Arata looked at her, he was watching her as she welcomed Taichi's arrival with her hand and that gave them this stubborn belief that his reaction (Arata looked surprised) is a proof that Arata realized Chihaya's feelings for Taichi and how she was completely engrossed in the world where only him and her existed and that's why lot of them believe that Arata will step back and let Chihaya go to Taichi.. Many fans believed this (I wonder about non Japanese fans?) But Checking the chapter again, Arata wasn't even facing Chihaya, and it was like I saw it from the start (Chihaya saw Harada sensei among the audience, she TURNED towards the audience in general and where he was TO SHOW HIM RESPECT that's why Harada sensei's face (and Tsuuboguchi's) lit up, Arata turned at the same time towards the sliding door which was behind the audience and saw Taichi at the same time, he didn't see Chihaya and they sent their cards at the same time he didn't wait to see what Chihaya sent to copy her, he didn't see her breathing and hands, it was a completely parallel movement where both (like in many other cases before) acted together. The paneling is really important yes. Thank you for your answer about Taichi's confession, i think what you said makes sense yes. And thank you very much for all the info on this skating player (I am an illiterate when it comes to it lol) it's interesting really and I agree, again I'll call Arata unusual and I agree, people on the top or where no everyone can be are hard to relate to. |
I gave it 3 stars and for an initial idea this is why as I write there: First of all, tbh, I don't have an arc that I'd give 5/5, my best arc is 4/5 so this arc which has lot of Arata & lot of grown and strong Chihaya are good but not as good as the ones I preferred before though my most favorite chapter IS in this last arc but I think some things felt lacking to me despite enjoying what is actually there. I especially wanted to see some different things about Arata, and despite what the general readers say, Taichi's role is still far from satisfying, I wanted to see more of Shinobu, tbh I would have preferred if the focus Suo got was rather given to Shinobu but I'm not complaining, Suo was left as the last boss with very little light shed on his real feelings so I understand the spotlight he was given. What I absolutely love though is Sudo's performance, I enjoyed the technical aspect of the karuta games too (which I believe are overlooked by many fans) so all in all is just a little bit less good than the parts I rated as 4/5. I have moments I rate as 5/5 but they are not close to complete arcs with distinct theme but more like small pieces of the arc (Arata's role in ch226 for example) . So what about you Kirara chan?Also I wanted to know what you think, the number of sold copies for Chihayafuru isn't going up that much and I personally think it's expected because it's running for 15 years and in general manga is doomed to be less interesting with time and adding to it the fact that it's a monthly manga just makes people decide to stop reading till the end. I saw fans who said that even among western readers but even I expected more fans to come back to reading Chihayafuru now that the end is announced, even Taichi fans, it's widely stated that lot of them left around ch205 when Taichi lost to Arata but they aren't returning. Some Arata fans also said that they left after volume 17 and they just came back so why are the sales not getting better? Is it because fans are not interested in buying the volumes after reading monthly in BeLove? |
5 stars (8 votes) 4 stars (23 votes) 3 stars (13 votes) I understand that many love it like you but there are still expectations that weren't met so it's difficult to give it 5 so I think 4 stars is quite good a rating. I'm also glad to know that you enjoy the karuta aspect, you are totally right, I feel like this arc tackled karuta the most seriously compared to many other matches (like one match I keep wincing at every comment calling it good "karuta" match bc t's almost not karuta which is the Yoshino finals between Chihaya & Taichi. That was a match of colors and backgrounds and shoujo effects, if you are not easily hooked by such unnecessary details, the content won't be that interesting I believe & I personally find it the match the most boring of all the manga, hopefully saying this honestly doesn't bother you) In fact, one of the reasons I want to reread Chihayafuru for after it's over is to understand what I still don't get in this side of the game, the technical details in the karuta matches & the strategies. And you are also right about the pacing I guess but I kind of accepted it the same way I learnt to accept the big fights in shounen manga where there are many flashbacks, breaks to talk, communication through fists, stuff like that. I guess for a manga about karuta, embedding your multiple ideas about your main heroes in the final karuta matches is like those shounen fights. I give 4 stars to the elementary school arc, but i'm not sure how I can differentiate the other arcs, should I consider the national tournament every year as one arc each? in that case I like the 2nd tournament till the hospital scene as for why, I think I'll answer that later because even though I have it clearly in my mind that I love this arc, but I'll need to go back and check what exactly made me very interested (apart from everything Arata related ofc lol) |
I shared the new trio illustration on FB and again, I was surprised to see some pessimism. I think in general, chapter 246 shook the two sides, one positively & the other negatively and i'm in the middle wondering why? lol though I got busy with rl I tried to discuss some points on FB, I discovered that I cannot provide quick arguments it's always a full connected chess board to me lol i'm useless. a member collected the points that make some fans more positive about Taichiha than Arachiha and the we thought that we (who are more Arachiha positives) could try to convince the other side but it's a mess haha, I really feel like, this is not where you can find a fact here and another there and bring them as proof it's more like a whole story told in segments & separated by big events etc. Well, I want to copy the list made by that member here: I already analysed every point but through scattered comments mainly here & on FB and I'm wondering now if I can organize & save the answers in the Data thread? I tried with the 1st point but I guess I couldn't include many other and I feel like my writing is superfluous? is this the right word? Anyway, I'll share what I wrote, first this is about the Trio illustration and why I think it could be a continuation of the hug from ch246 and why is the focus still on Taichi: About the the PAIR of cards Tachi & Chiha: And this is an answer to a question where someone asked me this: And about your last comment I have a question, so, if you really haven't count Arachiha romantic moments in the second half of the story, what makes you so sure it will happen? is just because of what happened in the beginning? Wouldn't it be disregarding many evolutions the story took? |
I also love the first high school tournament and Shinobu's appearance , the whole beginning I guess and then more and more elements were added where I was like ..just waiting them to end, like the Yoshino tournament (minus Harada sensei's matches) so you can say, I liked things and not as much in other things' case throughout the whole manga. BIG EDIT!!! Someone just sent me this saying it's taken from BeLove ใใกใฏใใตใใใคใใซๅฎ็ต๏ผ ๆ็ต่ฉฑ81ใใผใธใไธๆๆฒ่ผ!! ๅไบบใปใฏใคใผใณๆฆใฎๆฑบ็ใใคใใไปใๆใฎๆฑบ็ใใผใผใ It says that after the Queen & Meijin titles are settled, so will be "love", so no open end? is this what this is saying? confirming one of the ships? Nono, I shouldn't jump into conclusions yet right? RIGHT? |
MashimaTaichi_Jul 27, 2022 9:33 AM
I hope that staying away for a while will make the blow lighter on you but really, sensei disappointed me so much I just read something that disturbed me even more which I hope is not true, that Arata hinted to keep working to be close to Chihaya and be with her at 28 yo instead of now at 18. I wish sensei puts Arata aside now and if she wants keep writing about the others as she did for long. I really want her to leave him alone I say this while wishing that I'm not disrespecting her in the slightest. It's her work, she has the right to conclude her efforts the way she wants. I'm a bit stubborn, I was asked about this possibility and I said what I'd feel about it and I -now- really feel that and my impressions aren't something anyone from the happy side will appreciate. I'll keep them to myself, I started obsessing over Chihayafuru bc he character of Taichi was a disappointment and Arata was always better in my eyes, and it's both strange & sad that the story seems to be ending exactly as it was when it pulled me in this strongly. I'm taking it easy for now but I still want to see the chapter, I want to say goodbye to the Arata sensei drew in this last story. |
I feel way better now (until I see the raws again haha) but seriously, I'm not convinced and I'll probably never be, everything I understood so far just made perfect sense and you are also right, what I read so far was "Chihayafuru" but now it turned into "Taichifuru", everywhere Taichi was inserted, I could give it a good explanation within Chihayfuru from its first chapter to the smallest detail of what he said and what was told him, but those small and halfheartedly added pages about Chihaya's confession and Arata's weird acceptance just colored all those moments as Taichifuru, I'm sad about how Chihaya's character was ruined, and Arata's 'until I am 28 yo" ooc sentence (well as it was transmitted to me I'm not sure if I'll change my mind after I see for myself) Anyway, you said the execution and I agree, they are only 15 pages among 80 so ofc there is more, thankfully even Japanese Arata fans say there were some nice things as for the "romance" pages, I'm also glad to see that even some Taichi fans who could be objective, said that it was so badly executed even for Taichi himself ... It looked to me like that, Taichi's fate was disappointing but I never thought anyone would agree with me from his fans because I know how much deprived of him they were so anything would have been good and Chihaya confessing to him even in that scene that was way less than Taichi's confession or the hospital scene would more than enough.... Ok people are happy with things so be it, I am disappointed. and yes as you said it's not even about the ship even though I always said firmly that my expectations are 90% Arachiha or 10% an open end and you know what? what I felt all this time didn't even crumble now as if it's all a lie but no, it's not a lie, it's the last episode of Taichifuru (Did you read what they shared about sensei's message at the end of the chapter? Taichi's part, god I laughed but then again I remembered that I had expectations and I was disappointed, hilarious but alright, that's what sensei wanted Taichifuru to be so be it) ... I think Chihayafuru will forever stay incomplete, it seems that sensei did not REALLY end things for Arata & Chihaya but I'm not ready to be pulled by Suetsugu sensei anymore. I'm gonna say goodbye to taichifuru today I believe then leave IT'S A LIE IT'S A LIEEEEE I'LL PROBABLY BE BACK HERE VERY SOON TO DIVE DEEP AGAIN IN ARATA LOOOL... Yeah, I mean we feel so much now, but the sure thing is that we need to see that last chapter. |
| In the end it turned into a story about a girl who's falling for the guys who just suddenly disappear. At first it was Arata who left Tokyo, went to Fukui and didn't answer her calls and messages. She kept thinking about him. She even fainted in the middle of her match when she expected to see him and didn't: so upset she was. Next, Taichi started doing a lot of things in secret and suddenly left the club with huge drama. Now he is going to Kyoto which totally triggered her feelings. We always looked deeper into the meaning of karuta poems which were read in each chapter, and all hints from poetry were misleading. Frustrated as I am, I'll still watch season 4 of anime when it comes out. We have yet to see some pleasant moments from the last chapters of the manga. Who knows, maybe animators will manage to make this final chapter look more consistent. |
Avish, you know,the first thing did when I saw the leaks on Aratafuru (On FB) was to apologize because I gave people hope. I guess I forgot about the people here. I am sorry I know that I would have still believed exactly what I believe now if I was alone or if I had to keep my thoughts to myself but maybe I shouldn't have been as passionate as I was But at the same time, Avish, I take relief in the fact that you yourself are a "high quality reader" as @iNameless_ said in one of her great tweets and if I could affect your initial thoughts, I believe that it's because the argument was convincing & the writing backs it up somehow in a way that makes sense, I still am not feeling "fool" for what I thought and understood all along because thousands of readers all across the world, Japanese mainly (who are prone to understand the text, context & culture if I may say of the work better) understood it in the same way as I did, just read their thoughts on 2ch or Twitter, Suetsugu didn't feel the need to make excuses if she was confident in what she wrote, not after so many proved her ability to convey her true intentions as lacking (IF they are really her true intentions because I'm skeptical, especially with the thank you message and what she felt the need to say about Taichi's fate) Still I probably have to apologize because I am stubborn but other people might prefer to be careful and maybe I destroyed that somehow, I am really sorry. Kirara & Hayama, it's sad that we are talking about Chihayafuru in such a disappointed tone but what can we do? All your complaining is valid because the failure IS indeed in Suetsugu's ability to convey what she says now she meant because, seriously? 173 was a rejection? even if it's true then we are back to square 1 of the disappointment and the feeling of betrayal because as was said in the tweets before, it means that Chihaya's feelings for Arata faded away between volume 17 & volume 33 (I won't say she realized that they weren't love because sensei in her failed tweets still confirmed her feelings once again) so why did she not draw anything about it? Avish you mentioned Chihaya ignoring Arata but was Chihaya drawn as someone who cared for Taichi's "romantic" feelings either? She rejected him and was upset that she hurt him and that he left her after making sure he made her feel it intensely (the pain he felt) and refused to come in days that were so important to her and that friends should have cared so much about but he didn't and bla bla she discovered that he was always by her side and wow, Arata is out of the scene (I love everything Kirata wrote about how shallow Taichihaya seems because of this caution of giving Arata & her a special moment together even if to celebrate the long time dream that connects the start & the end.) And suddenly, Chihaya forgot everything about it too for 3 months until Komano reminded her of the type of person Taichi was which is a person who would erase a whole friendship as long as that person cannot reciprocate their feelings (and here, if Taichi sensed anything in Chihaya's treatment after the Queen tournament, he would have maybe thought about exploring that change right? but Chhaya was the same to him, she didn't show him anything special which means she acted as the same Chihaya all along) That's just Chihaya, and because there was nothing to threaten her with in Arata's case, she didn't end up with him but in Taichi's case, another threat was ready to scare her and a quick confession sealed the whole thing I just wonder how none of the people round sensei, the editorial department, the close readers, none told her about how such end doesn't suit something that could have ended as a masterpiece of 15 years? thankfully Suetsugu herself acknowledged that failure and said that she should have done better with the "the most important episode" &s she said ... Buuuuut it's all over now right? I am sorry again, and go read "The sipirt Queen " Lol! I kept recommending it with every opportunity because I really like this manhua hahaha sorry. |
MashimaTaichi_Aug 15, 2022 6:58 AM
Wonder how @watanoharaya san feels about her story now... Suetsugu is like someone who drew this:  And after finishing it said that "it is an elephant, it was always an elephant and whoever doesn't see it that way, should leave for a bit then come back and look again". it's not an elephant and I don't care about what the artist says. I can keep it, hang it on my wall and name it "the horse meme" I still like Arata though and I don't regret knowing this character, he was good till the very end, you see when you give me only half of a candy? it's not as "beautiful" as the whole thing might be but it's still sweet from every angle. It's not my place to tell anyone how "to feel" but let go and focus on what makes you happy. I believe that Suetsugu is doing the same, she clearly is not happy with the reactions of her fans, and seeing her "likes" I see that she is checking the tags and searching for the reviews even when there is no tag, she is liking dumb tweets that praise her without making much sense (and they are from the same limited circle of T fans we all probably know). She is desperate for validation. |
but you are right Suetsugu simply did NOT put much efforts into Arata's character & relationships But you see, despite that I ended up rejecting everything about the "perfectly developed character Taichi" and i'm still obsessed with the half-product, Arata, even a month after Suetsugu landed her last blow confirming how little she cared to be creative with him like she "thought " she is with Taichi. Heck I think they should invent a word stronger than obsession to describe my liking for him! I've said it before, part of what was hypnotizing about Arata is the many holes in his story that kept me "waiting" for a day were they'll be filled with Suetsugu's skill, I had so much faith in her after all... I was waiting but my imagination kept wandering too in the vast space of possibilities, my mind was always busy, I said it before yes, that one of the visual elements I love the most in Chihayafuru are Arata's silent stares & the lot of empty bubbles he was given, like there is SO MUCH he doesn't say but thinks & feels, until it gets unveiled later, it should be guessed & I enjoyed doing that!! I agree with Kirara about the way Arachiha is beautiful because it's unusual and TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM TAICHIHA! There are people who said that if they didn't like Arachiha more, they would have liked Taichiha, it's not the case for me, I avoided talking much abt it maybe because it didn't matter much to me but Taichiha was never a romance between two people for me but when I force myself to consider it as such, it is very boring and full of unhealthy concepts & degrading many special aspects I loved in so many characters & themes in the story. Taichiha is not only Cliché it's boring & fun-killing. It would have made Chihayafuru really boring if it was clear from way before the end. the most boring thing about it for me? it's too detailed and overly described AND over dramatic, Chihaya is written as always receiving Taichi's favors (which are not convincing to me by the way bc Chihaya was before way more capable but she was told to step aside for Taichi to do things for her and I always saw it that way, as Taichi's role alone so it never looked to me as a romance between two as I said) I never wanted Arachiha to resemble this. You spoke about how Arata was not allowed to act more like a normal person who is interested in a girl (I believe that's what you wanted to say and not particularly blaming Arata the character but the author who cut his scenes and wrapped his moments hurriedly as if she didn't have time for him or she had other things she wanted to focus on which are for her more important than Arata and giving him a "full depth-ed" story if I may say) but you know what? I heard this complaint a lot and I thought that it'd be cute stuff to see but I personally never thought it's needed. Arata for me is like Murao said at the beginning: "minds his own business", like he himself said in the very beginning, "a man hwo won't go easy even on a 5 years old", he is a boy who only faces the real you when he needs to + he is not romantic so ... there is this major theme in the manga where Chihaya needed to catch up to him to be able to communicate her feelings and I could easily see them meet not in the middle but at the end of their road, C who is willing to work hard first (AND FOCUS ON THAT) to be on the same page & A who decided to change prefectures to be next to her instead of starting a relationship over phones, ofc I don't mean this as a complete disconnection but I can't see "using the phone much to ask about Chihaya & feel closer to her" as something In Character for him .. Arata always looked at Chihaya as someone who can take care of herself (and I believe she could if Taichi gave her space to), she faces what she doesn't like, she finds ways to be happy and she was always honest about her thoughts and desires, someone like this was bound to be received favorably by people who want to teach & guide her she never really needed a certain someone to be by her side so Arata looked more at her as someone who is running ahead and he himself also kept running ahead. People mentioned that he should have told her when he came to practice at Shiranami but why? didn't Chihaya say she wants to FOCUS FULLY on training and he told her he would do the same? I didn't expect him to cut this kind of agreement in the middle, he said that the next time he will meet her will be in the meijin tournament as a declaration that all the time they have until then will be fully dedicated to preparing and that's what he did! He came to waseda, he was serious about coming to Tokyo even though he knew he wasn't that rich to waste money on living outside of his prefecture and he was always a considerate boy in his family so he wouldn't make that decision & persist if he wasn't serious, when TC told him about them going out he said that he thought that he "will give his best" after coming to Tokyo that's how relationships are taken for him, that's the "serious" he was offering but alas, Suetsugu invented that ??? excuse at the very end to change things and I wonder what you think about it? because I feel like you accepted it? Taichi was always by Chihaya's side, she was always aware that he worked hard with her, that he was caring, he took care of her a LOT! she was really really aware but that didn't stop her from loving Arata (because Suetsugu still confirmed that Chihaya did bc you know, in the way she planned things at first she put enough facts & hints to, even in the comic book & the art exhibition and interviews) So she couldn't just deny it How do you see this "by my side" thing? Does it make sense to you in some way? like Oooh I love A, I'm dumb I can't write poems but I wrote poems about A, and i'm dense and I don't understand relationships & indirect messages but I understood A's let's play karuta together as let's live together which is only kana's level of understanding - anyway I rejected T because of A, but T refuses to talk to me, he is caring and hard working and sweet & I will put his head on my shoulder despite liking A because I recognize his kindness and I believe that he deserves to be cared for, he is my friend who is sweet & loyal to his closest people me including -wait he is here- no he was always here, my friend told me I can't communicate with him like before because we are just friends, wow, we are not just friends, thanks to my friends who understand my feelings for me lol, I'm in love with him????? like yeah? good for anyone who can consume this comedy. I got over sensei's end and i'm not going to reread to see the "elephant" (thank you very much Wataya san for the very accurate description) I also decide to end it here with what I got, what I enjoyed and what I still want to see, if Suetsugu doesn't want t give it to me, I'm easily ready to consume anyone's creation that doesn't contradict what I got so far. Speaking of which, I'm glad that @iNameless_ is also doing better, she wants to write the fanfiction I want to read lol no seriously, I had fun discussing with her what kind of ending would have been satisfying and how it would have played, what details would have been delightful to see apart from the romance and we imagined some really fun things, it would be very nice if anyone could write them as a fanfiction, Rawaa is trying but it's not easy, especially that it's her first try, I don't know anything about ffs either. Sorry for the very long reply but I couldn't express myself in a while and I like to talk to you Avish, really & despite everything and it's so nice to read your thoughts too Kirara. I really don't know how to help you guys if I can do anything just let me know but please get better, the ending really doesn't deserve your uneasy feelings, no, it's not even the whole ending, it's the last 20 or so pages (and what they color in black in Taichi's panels in the last part of the manga I guess) |
if you didn't please do you'll find it amusing that lot of your thoughts are already expressed in Japanese, i find it healing to know that there are so many who feel very similar feelings for very similar reasons and who read Chihayafuru in a very similar way, who analysed it the same, who read the "hints", the poems, the visuals & every hint the same we did You'll know that we weren't delusional, the writing lead us where we arrived and made us think & expect what we expected and the ending IS made at the last minute.. well Suetsugu already almost said it |
Will be back to write longer posts to give you more energy :D i'll do it with pleasure cause who can refuse an energized Avish? xD And I'm also sarcastic by nature but usually not with people I care about, coming back to give you more stuff to object to haha |
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