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Sep 29, 2016 11:57 AM

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im beyond bad. too busy with business trip to do event properly...
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When most of your friends still don't have event CE's equipped on their supports....
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When you spend actual money to try to and fail to get Event CEs rather than the Nero's

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Glad you guys like the guide/find it useful. The quest was kinda fun. It was the same as a long HP raid quest, but God Hand added a small twist.


Here's my party with the appropriate team name:


Looking forward to the Gae Bolg duo fight.

-Mahesvara said:
That Herc mission basically shows us how broken he would be in game if he truely had God Hand.

This quest is not even a fraction of how hard fighting a faithful-to-lore God Hand would actually be.

Want it to be actually accurate? Make the Servants with A or higher NPs to be the only ones able to damage him. Others would inflict 0 damage. And when one of those Servants deals damage, Herc becomes immune to it from the next turn onward. THAT is how you make a dickish quest.

Although, to be fair, this may seem unreasonable at first, but give Saber Lily's NP the ability to kill him 7 times and the quest is immediately balanced.
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Glad you guys like the guide/find it useful. The quest was kinda fun. It was the same as a long HP raid quest, but God Hand added a small twist.


Here's my party with the appropriate team name:


Looking forward to the Gae Bolg duo fight.

-Mahesvara said:
That Herc mission basically shows us how broken he would be in game if he truely had God Hand.

This quest is not even a fraction of how hard fighting a faithful-to-lore God Hand would actually be.

Want it to be actually accurate? Make the Servants with A or higher NPs to be the only ones able to damage him. Others would inflict 0 damage. And when one of those Servants deals damage, Herc becomes immune to it from the next turn onward. THAT is how you make a dickish quest.

Although, to be fair, this may seem unreasonable at first, but give Saber Lily's NP the ability to kill him 7 times and the quest is immediately balanced.
Or if you're lucky to have either Gil or Karna, you would be able to one shot him with their NP's. I would say both of their NP's would be able to take all of his lives away with one shot
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-Mahesvara said:
Or if you're lucky to have either Gil or Karna, you would be able to one shot him with their NP's. I would say both of their NP's would be able to take all of his lives away with one shot


+Extra boost to Acchan and any Shirou CEs.

It's a shame that they didn't go any further - this could've ended up really cool.


Also, I think the Art-debuff is like a wink to the A rank weapons/attacks only(assuming that it doesn't have a lore-related explanation).
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Well, I finished the event on one account, unless the nodes for next week will be better, then my Nero account will be considered finished.

Also just now I got Karna's bond 6 quartz. Aw yea
Sep 29, 2016 1:54 PM

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Also, I think the Art-debuff is like a wink to the A rank weapons/attacks only(assuming that it doesn't have a lore-related explanation).

Singling out Arts is pretty weird, though. A Quick debuff would make more sense IMO if it was indeed a refrence to God Hand's other passive. They're weak in power and, A-rank NPs aside, good luck trying to attempt to land a crit against Herc.

Hmmm. They could have thought of debuffing both at some point, but then found the quest nigh impossible to clear. Freeing Quicks also makes the fight a lot easier, since a well-timed crit and take an entire life AND charge NPs.

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Also just now I got Karna's bond 6 quartz. Aw yea

Doesn't a 5* give only three?
Sep 29, 2016 2:01 PM
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astroprogs said:


ShadowfrostZen said:

Also just now I got Karna's bond 6 quartz. Aw yea

Doesn't a 5* give only three?
Yeah. I reached level 6 with his bond and got 3 Quartz
Sep 29, 2016 2:23 PM

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to beat the craps out of shisho and cu, i use atlas mystic code to unlock altera np and used 2 seal command to spam photon ray with 2 waver as support.

as brutal as it is stupid to waste command seal
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Sep 29, 2016 2:23 PM

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Spam Saber team NP to kill Scathatch. Luckily the NP debuff is only for 3 turns unlike Herk's 90% Arts debuff.


Exactly. Easy on paper/text. Whatever.

But
a) Dodges were annoying af. There's only so much you can do with debuffs, when the dodges come almost every other round.
b) Spamming requires several rounds - both Scatty and Cu must be killed in the same round, or your whole team will be annihilated
Probably other things that peeved me off, but I can't be bothered to dwell on this too much. :/

I mean, I've already finished it because, as I said, the way to kill them is pretty straightforward and easy. But everything else was annoying af and plain unenjoyable.

It's a matter of striking when the time is right. I had a team of Artoria, Nero Bride, and support Nero Bride. All of them at 100% NP. I merely wait until both of them don't have dodge up, then let loose the NPs. Focusing both Nero's NP on Scathatch to lower her defense and HP before using Artoria's Ekusu-kariba and overkilling them both in a single turn.
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astroprogs said:
mira-pyon said:

Also, I think the Art-debuff is like a wink to the A rank weapons/attacks only(assuming that it doesn't have a lore-related explanation).

Singling out Arts is pretty weird, though. A Quick debuff would make more sense IMO if it was indeed a refrence to God Hand's other passive. They're weak in power and, A-rank NPs aside, good luck trying to attempt to land a crit against Herc.

Hmmm. They could have thought of debuffing both at some point, but then found the quest nigh impossible to clear. Freeing Quicks also makes the fight a lot easier, since a well-timed crit and take an entire life AND charge NPs.


Actually, imo, it would've been easier if Quicks were nerfed. Like, 9/10 Art-based servants can easily spam their NPs, which would make the Herk fight really easy, whereas not all Quick-based servants have the quick card as their major NP-gaining card. They might have deemed having the debuff the other way round 'too easy' for the specific type of quest, hence changing the debuff so the quest can be considered 'lvl 90'. Especially when we just got Kuro.

ShinsoPriest said:

It's a matter of striking when the time is right. I had a team of Artoria, Nero Bride, and support Nero Bride. All of them at 100% NP. I merely wait until both of them don't have dodge up, then let loose the NPs. Focusing both Nero's NP on Scathatch to lower her defense and HP before using Artoria's Ekusu-kariba and overkilling them both in a single turn.


Yes, I know. That's simply common sense. It was not my point. I'm saying that the quest is easy, but the dodges are annoying, the rules are annoying and take away any fun the quest could've had. I wasn't asking for a full-on how-I-did-it, because, once you get past the dodges, killing them with a AoE Saber is easy. Just stating that I didn't like how it was set out.
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Sep 29, 2016 3:56 PM

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I find having to kill a Berserker who revives 12 times is more annoying though.
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I still need to give the Herc mission another go, but I've been to busy with farming mats with the lottery system. Oh, and leveling up Nero Bride of course.
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Sep 29, 2016 9:11 PM

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I was in desperate need of a Saber.


RNG responded with kindness.




Sep 29, 2016 9:16 PM
Sep 29, 2016 11:16 PM

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ShinsoPriest said:
I find having to kill a Berserker who revives 12 times is more annoying though.


Not really. He's just like a raid boss who becomes really easy to kill if you have the event CEs equipped on your servants. I probably wouldn't have the problem I was having if I had used an event CE, like I was supposed to, when it comes to dealing with a boss with 1mil+ HP.

On the other hand, I had no way to counteract the dodges and if that 'right moment' never came, I'd have to start again. I'd rather not have my plans foiled by a dodge which is gonna stop the NP I'm about to use, followed by Scatty using her NP and killing the people whose NP I need. Whether or not you won Scatty's quest felt more circumstantial to me - the 'right moment' will never come if her dodge is used at a crippling time.

Oh well, opinionz.
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Sep 30, 2016 2:37 AM

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In 6 hours, we'll have the new Mashu lines. Looking forward to this line in particular.


Thanks god Youtube exists. We can always go back and remember.


Also, we're getting a new CE:
astroprogsSep 30, 2016 2:46 AM
Sep 30, 2016 3:04 AM

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These challenges are fun.

Tho the Gae Bolg team, critical and PFA spam is fucking retarded.

Anyway.

Yeah the CE is crap.My Prism are safe now.

So we have
Master EXP
QP
Suit EXP
and Bond EXP

Any idea what we will get next time?

And when the fuck will the quartz store be available?


BTW. Reddit says that the 40AP quest with Tesla,Helena and Eidson is best place for Silver medals. Are they sure?
Sep 30, 2016 3:28 AM

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ssjokg said:

So we have
Master EXP
QP
Suit EXP
and Bond EXP

Any idea what we will get next time?

FP, probably.


ssjokg said:

BTW. Reddit says that the 40AP quest with Tesla,Helena and Eidson is best place for Silver medals. Are they sure?

Yes.
Sep 30, 2016 3:46 AM

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astroprogs said:

Also, we're getting a new CE:
Increase Bond EXP by 2% at the end of battle. (LB: 10%)


IMO This CE is crap. We'll have to grind 5000 Mana Prisms to get 10% more Bond EXP? Only 10%? If i did a quest 10 times, why wouldn't i do it the 11th? At least i'd get more mats and QP if i did.

Aw hell yeah finally. Gonna LB and use it immediately when its out!
Sep 30, 2016 3:47 AM
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I've farmed that area for days, and yes it's the best place for silver medals
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In 6 hours, we'll have the new Mashu lines. Looking forward to this line in particular.


Thanks god Youtube exists. We can always go back and remember.


Also, we're getting a new CE:
. Isn't the CE the same as the last bond CE one?
Sep 30, 2016 3:48 AM

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ShadowfrostZen said:
I've farmed that area for days, and yes it's the best place for silver medals
astroprogs said:
In 6 hours, we'll have the new Mashu lines. Looking forward to this line in particular.


Thanks god Youtube exists. We can always go back and remember.


Also, we're getting a new CE:
. Isn't the CE the same as the last bond CE one?
if used when the exp you get is 1000 then yes.
Sep 30, 2016 3:49 AM

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astroprogs said:
ssjokg said:

So we have
Master EXP
QP
Suit EXP
and Bond EXP

Any idea what we will get next time?

FP, probably.


ssjokg said:

BTW. Reddit says that the 40AP quest with Tesla,Helena and Eidson is best place for Silver medals. Are they sure?

Yes.
well most of the time I get only 2 or even 1 silver drop.
Sep 30, 2016 6:57 AM

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Just finished the Gae Bolg fight. Cleared it in the first try, which kinda surprised me. This is way easier than the Herc fight if you have the right Servants/CEs.


My initial plan was to have Martha remove the NP seal on my team, debuff Scathach's defense and then have her NP debuff both Lancers even more. Nero would would debuff them both even more, then Atoria would finish it with her Excalibur.

That, while did what i wanted and DID kill Cu, still wasn't enough to get Scathach's HP to 0. She then proceeded to rape four of Servants, until my Herc got her to a low enough HP so my Nero was able to deal the final blow and win.


It's a case of everything going right and wrong at the same time. It was pretty fun.

Here's my team, again with the appropriate team name:


And the unexpected MVP:


Mitsuzuri saves the day. I knew my inner fanboy that opted to keep her despite the extremely limited inventory would get vindication one day.

ShadowfrostZen said:
Isn't the CE the same as the last bond CE one?

It's more useful in the extremely rare fights with way higher bond EXP. The question is, Is the ever-so-slightly higher EXP worth grinding 5000 mana prisms for you?

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well most of the time I get only 2 or even 1 silver drop.

Wait for the future added quests. They always have a higher drop count for event mats.
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I'd only buy one of them lol. That's all that matters to me.
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I'd only buy one of them lol. That's all that matters to me.

2% increase may as well be 0%. I'd save the cost space for the future shop CE and the 1000 prisms for the actually usefull Fous, EXP cards and salt-inducing tickets.
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Except Berserker also has a spammable dodge so I don't see your point. There are suits and CEs that can make your servant bypass dodge too. Rather than opinions, it's more like I don't understand how it's less fun or more annoying when dodge can be worked around.
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astroprogs said:
In 6 hours, we'll have the new Mashu lines. Looking forward to this line in particular.


Thanks god Youtube exists. We can always go back and remember.


Also, we're getting a new CE:


I think every CE that is on the mana shop is crap if you don't LB. I have 3k mana stored so it will take me like a month or so to have it LB.
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Except Berserker also has a spammable dodge so I don't see your point. There are suits and CEs that can make your servant bypass dodge too. Rather than opinions, it's more like I don't understand how it's less fun or more annoying when dodge can be worked around.


Not really. Herk doesn't spam his dodge and only uses it occasionally.

The fact that you can't understand why me having the get around annoyingly-timed dodges makes me dislike the quest is why it's opinion based.

Also,
a) I don't have the suit
b) Even if I were to use the suit, it would foil my plans.

And it's not like you expect me to put on level 1 suits and go into a lvl 90 battle. :/
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Sep 30, 2016 8:22 AM

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The last ticket tho

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mira-pyon said:
ShinsoPriest said:

Except Berserker also has a spammable dodge so I don't see your point. There are suits and CEs that can make your servant bypass dodge too. Rather than opinions, it's more like I don't understand how it's less fun or more annoying when dodge can be worked around.


Not really. Herk doesn't spam his dodge and only uses it occasionally.

The fact that you can't understand why me having the get around annoyingly-timed dodges makes me dislike the quest is why it's opinion based.

Also,
a) I don't have the suit
b) Even if I were to use the suit, it would foil my plans.

And it's not like you expect me to put on level 1 suits and go into a lvl 90 battle. :/

I guess I agree with you, except for the last part. The level of the suit don't really matter. Unless you really really want the extra attack %.

So anyways, how about that 1AP match today? 40 assassins, each debuffing you upon death. And one particularly nasty debuff being an instant kill.
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Ya know, guys, I rolled 120 quartz on the anniversary gacha. I got crap.
I rolled tickets on the first part of the swimsuit event. I got crap.
I rolled 90 quartz on the second part. I got crap.
I rolled 60 quartz and tickets on the Prisma Illya event. I got crap.
I rolled my 30 quartz and the two tickets i got from the Herc and GB quests on the Nero Bride gacha. I got crap.
And then *sigh* I rolled the 5 shop tickets just now and what a surprise.
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The last ticket tho

congrats man, she's hella good.

@astroprogs nice bro, it seems a lot of people are getting her now
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I think every CE that is on the mana shop is crap if you don't LB. I have 3k mana stored so it will take me like a month or so to have it LB.

But not this crap, though. We don't have anything like the bond CEs for the three previous shop CEs. The current bond CE almost makes the new one obsolete IMO. I'd have prefered it if they made new ones +100 instead of +50 and i'd have been satisfied. Unless they make farmable > 1000 bond EXP quests, this CE is just not worth the 5000 prisms.

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The last ticket tho


Hey congrats man :D

-Mahesvara said:
@astroprogs nice bro, it seems a lot of people are getting her now


Thanks man. It was a story of despair and hope 7 months in the making :'D
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I got crap from 7 tickets and 4 yolos

Don't give up, buddy. You'll get more chances later. We'll most likely get another Bride rate up with Extella's release.
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I don't really care about her.Any new 4 star or 5 star Servant is welcomed.
But i dont even get event CEs wth is up with that?
Sep 30, 2016 12:22 PM

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This 1AP is evil. Here I am thinking I won easily with Medea Lily's god-tier healing, but the last enemy had to have a AoE instant death debuff just to troll you out of your win.



Bringing Saber's casual suit next run.
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mira-pyon said:


Not really. Herk doesn't spam his dodge and only uses it occasionally.

The fact that you can't understand why me having the get around annoyingly-timed dodges makes me dislike the quest is why it's opinion based.

Also,
a) I don't have the suit
b) Even if I were to use the suit, it would foil my plans.

And it's not like you expect me to put on level 1 suits and go into a lvl 90 battle. :/

I guess I agree with you, except for the last part. The level of the suit don't really matter. Unless you really really want the extra attack %.

So anyways, how about that 1AP match today? 40 assassins, each debuffing you upon death. And one particularly nasty debuff being an instant kill.


No, I mean that, for the first two battles, I preferred the damage up given by the Battle suit and Chaldea suit to the specified damages given by the other ones.


As for the new AP match, being the clumsy-ass person I am, I lost my account again, so I can't do crap for now. >.>
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Lol, apparently Saber suit's revive skill gets canceled when instant kill debuff activates, but CE that has revive are A-OK. Well, I didn't need it this time. I lost last time since I was stalling to see if the instant kill debuff thing on the enemy would expire, and their NPs wasted my revives.

Anyways, I had Medea Lily, and Tamamo be the offensive servants with the nice event CE, while the 3rd slot is the sacrificial lamb who deals the final blow and dies for the team from the instant death debuff. Simple, really. But man, I love Medea Lily(NP2) with Tamamo. You're essentially immortal. This was a fun 1AP run imo.

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astroprogs said:
Ya know, guys, I rolled 120 quartz on the anniversary gacha. I got crap.
I rolled tickets on the first part of the swimsuit event. I got crap.
I rolled 90 quartz on the second part. I got crap.
I rolled 60 quartz and tickets on the Prisma Illya event. I got crap.
I rolled my 30 quartz and the two tickets i got from the Herc and GB quests on the Nero Bride gacha. I got crap.
And then *sigh* I rolled the 5 shop tickets just now and what a surprise.

Guess you won't need my Nero Bride account! Congratzu~




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Waver + tamamo + amakusa =win...
except if you dont kill lass hassan with amakasu np bc he insta kill all the party memeber on field.
if you dont have anybody in your reserve, it is insta game over

took me 49 turns to kill 37 hassan
waver die at turn 45
and idiot sanzo accidentally kill last hassan with extra atack... nearly got an heart attack seen my party being wiped

when, sometime, some crappy unit can shine (just like melb during prillya event and now amakusa vs hassan-team)
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(On muh alt)

I didn't get Nero bride with the tickets, but




haha, wat.

And here I was, about to write a sarcastic post. Dammit. >.>

On the other hand, I have no idea why I wasted my last two tickets.
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I wasted all my tickets. I'm never gonna get Nero, huh.

What's up with Amakusa btw? Thought he was too weak to do anything.
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Nice.

I was hoping for Nero on my main, but I do have a Nero account with EMIYA, Karna, Ozymandias, Da Vinci NP5 and Heracles.. I don't think there's a point tbh
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I wasted all my tickets. I'm never gonna get Nero, huh.

What's up with Amakusa btw? Thought he was too weak to do anything.

He removes buffs before he deals damage.Meaning that Hassan's dooom wont activate when he dies.
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Nice.

I was hoping for Nero on my main, but I do have a Nero account with EMIYA, Karna, Ozymandias, Da Vinci NP5 and Heracles.. I don't think there's a point tbh



Now to get Li Shuwen, Gawain and Cu and you'll be set for Extella. :D

ssjokg said:
ShinsoPriest said:
I wasted all my tickets. I'm never gonna get Nero, huh.

What's up with Amakusa btw? Thought he was too weak to do anything.

He removes buffs before he deals damage.Meaning that Hassan's dooom wont activate when he dies.


Wtf. That's a pretty great passive skill. Then why do people think he's crap?
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ShadowfrostZen said:
Nice.

I was hoping for Nero on my main, but I do have a Nero account with EMIYA, Karna, Ozymandias, Da Vinci NP5 and Heracles.. I don't think there's a point tbh



Now to get Li Shuwen, Gawain and Cu and you'll be set for Extella. :D

ssjokg said:

He removes buffs before he deals damage.Meaning that Hassan's dooom wont activate when he dies.


Wtf. That's a pretty great passive skill. Then why do people think he's crap?
because the damage he deals is shit.

Then again people say that Orion is shit too.
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