Reason and Duration for a Ban Displayed on the Site

Rasco said:
I think I already said this in another thread but basically; Sure improving the site is always good. But Why make things convenient for users who are banned in the first place? It wouldn't really make them "work" for a explanation or give them a reason to not get banned. I'm sure they also expect cookies after their return.

Immahnoob said:
Why not also add the "proof" of why you were banned?

And no, don't listen to Mikasa, having a tag under the name or on the profile saying "BANNED" is fine, but not the reasons or anything similar, maybe the duration, but even then, that's information you get from the banned person himself.

Rasco said:
I think I already said this in another thread but basically; Sure improving the site is always good. But Why make things convenient for users who are banned in the first place? It wouldn't really make them "work" for a explanation or give them a reason to not get banned. I'm sure they also expect cookies after their return.

Subpyro said:


All users, banned or not, are a part of the community. Forum mods aren't gods, so they have their own way of human thinking and will execute the actions as they deem appropriate. If a user knows why they are banned for and for how long on default, it's no issue. Otherwise, they have all the right to hear a justified reason for actions being taken against them. This matter is directly mirrored to real life situations. I honestly have no idea what you mean or are referring to by users not being let known sounding as something appropriate, because it is not.

Users not having to go to the IRC, wasting their time and trying their luck is only humane.

chinesecartoonz said:
]um idfk maybe because if someone gets banned its common sense to tell them why because if someone gets banned without knowing what they did wrong do you think they're going to stop doing it?? no they'll just do it again because they never got told what they did wrong.

honestly being banned is punishment enough but having to try their luck on irc for sometimes days at a time just for a simple explanation that could be over with by putting it on the ban page is just going overboard

jal90 said:

What I don't understand is, on the contrary, why do you find it positive to make things more inconvenient for banned users. A ban is simply a punishment to log in with your account, I think that's enough, you don't need to create additional inconveniences for the users to know why they are banned. It seems absurd to me.

Rasco said:
You guys are implying that A simple "Reason for a ban" displayed wouldn't Make you guys GO on IRC to hear a more Elaborate or more informed(with proof) reply. Even if it is shown as highly informed wouldn't you guys want to repeal?

Subpyro said:

Probably wouldn't, nope. I'm pretty sure the majority wouldn't care much as of why they got banned just when they can access the site again. Although an approximate reason is always good. Like, spamming, flaming, alternative accounts, etc. So yeah, seems like you didn't understand our intentions.

Rasco said:
So your now Saying everyone doesn't care for reasons? How inconsistent can you get?
And Yes I mentioned Informed AND elaborate reason which also Implies the Time and duration. You honestly are just being too literal.

Subpyro said:

What? Why are you using overly complex words when you cannot comprehend the meaning behind of them? I never said that everyone doesn't care. I said that the majority wants a round and generalized reason and timeframe for and of a ban as categorized to cover everything in a few specific preset reasonings. That alone would already tell the majority what they want to hear. Everyone who would want to hear more would be free to access the IRC and ask as the current procedure goes.

I'm aiming to cover the wishes of a majority on as simple way as possible here after thinking it through. Please, refrain from posting such low-intelligent comments or I'll be pushed to ignore them, ask have little time to deal with irrational approaches like yours.

Rasco said:
What I already said I like improvements. And It implies subway that I'm not against this. Your honestly being irrational.

Subpyro said:

Then I just don't get what you write in your posts. One time you're seemingly up for something completely, the other time you express partial flaws of how you see them. Then the next time, you are going with agreement again. You sure it's not purely for the sake of arguing? I don't really mind, it's just that this widespread categories are not really rocket science and I do not believe the system I'm suggesting here isn't efficient in the matters you've expressed.

It's not like I want to deny your posts or something, but it's like two people would argue whether a bench in the park is empty or not, while they are standing next to it.

Rasco said:
I did mention that I like the site improved, I didn't dismiss "common sense". Also there is no good Argument for "getting banned again". Since wouldn't a user be more careful if they got banned in the first place? :V

And lol about a ban being enough, Okay then. Don't forget your cookies after your ban is lifted and a massage too. The ban must of been traumatic.

chinesecartoonz said:
how are they gonna be more careful to not do something that will get them banned if they dont even know what they did to get banned in the first place?

secondly, wtaf. if the rules say if you do x you will get banned, then that is the rules. it says banned. thats it. not "well you will probably have to go through a ridiculously over complicated process to find out why or how long but yeah youre banned lol" im not saying we should baby everyone that gets banned like you are (sarcastically) implying, but the matter of fact is that this process is inefficient as all hell when it really doesnt need to be