Xaelath said:pgmhecateii said:
Eh, SAO was isekai? But it was just a MMORPG...
That aside, Re:Zero is the only one that really stood out. Konosuba and Mondaiji-tachi are next. Other than those, I don't think isekai anime are too popular.
Well SAO mmorpg boom is similar to Log Horizon or some anime/Manga/LN themed that transferred into game world.
I think it is Isekai well except it's game themed.
Something like NGNl or overlord might be similar.
The main problems with the isekai are the common one "Reincarnated into another world".
MAC died , with ridiculous trophe Truck-san. It could be replaced to pretty much anything though.
Another problem also lies when the MC doesn't have background,generic characters, no character development, similiar OP MC.
Well damn in Manga you could find those kind as a top seller or hot stuff.
From the weekly selling about Manga/Ln alone you know that most of the top 10 tittle always had isekai in it.
Overlord isn't similar because it doesn't show the player as the player became a being in the game universeCoolitzHubertXVI said:
I'd like to see other male characters in the main cast of an Isekai series other than the MC that gets a girl(s). Preferably MC's close male friend.
However, there are still many in this forum that might find it hard to imagine a story where there would be 2 male characters that we would feel easiness to equally root for any or both of them, so I will write my own example of how such a story could be. If I could come up with this, then I reckon other pro LN writers in Japan can flesh out and write a million times better with these ideas contained within. So begins an example of such a story that has 2 main male protagonists below :
The setting for such an anime world would be a world where since a huge mysterious explosion happened 70 years ago on a continent far from the MC's current big island he and his school is now located at, only girls have been known to be born with magical powers that are believed by many to originate from that past explosion, but since the past 20 years, a very small number of boys around the world started to be born with magical powers too, and that includes our MC and his male friend, who're now both 16 years old as second-year students, and their magical powers in comparison to most people in their country are quite high, to the point that those two have entered the Top 10 ranking of the strongest magic users in the entire country, which includes both 2 of them in positions 10th and 9th, a Senpai from their school which is ranked at 8th, and the strongest ranked, the 1st, is the country's Queen, which appears in the background as side character for most of the story.
The real reason why those 2 boys/male leads are so strong, is due to the fact that both of them are actually souls reincarnated into that world from their original world in their past lives.
According to their country's rules, the strongest ranked magic wielder must become Queen or King, and live in the Palace at the capital city, however since the country is a democracy, the royal is just a symbolic figure.
The 2 main male characters might be ranked 10th and 9th respectively, but in their school now, there are many girls including the 5 heroines in their harem that are ranked in the Top 30, so the story would mostly depict the MC training his heroines in his harem, MC's interactions with the other male friend of his, scenes outside the school with a conspiracy plot involving the antagonists that wants to obtain a rare fragment from the past mysterious explosion and MC's fights with them, and the build-up for the year-end tournament.
In other words, the elements for this story would mix elements from Kuusen Madoushi no Kyoukan( the MC teaching the heroines ), Yuyu Hakusho ( MC's interaction with his male friend kinda similar to Yuusuke's friendship with Kuwabara ), Saijaku Muhai no Bahamut ( MC fighting the antagonists outside the school ), and Gakusen Toshi Asterisk ( the build-up for the year-end tournament ).
The setting for such a school in the example above with those 2 strong male characters, the MC and his male friend, can be set in the most elite all-girls school which turned co-ed for the past year to accomodate the rising number of boys born with magical powers, and the ratio of boys to girls are 1:9, so at the entire school, there would be 450 female students out of 500, with 50 male students attending now, and among those 50 boys, only the MC and his male friend possess the power and strength that is not only way beyond those other 48 boys like as if the difference between those 2 and the other 48 boys are like the difference between Heaven and Earth, but also the fact that the MC and his male friend is stronger than the 5 girls in their own harem, and that the only characters that can match them are the antagonists which are not from their school, as well as just one girl from the 3rd year, who is attracted to both of those boys but find it hard who to choose so we can see some funny comedy-relief scenes where that 3rd year Senpai having a monologue where she recalls the fights of those 2 guys in her mind and equally feeling excited and impressed at how strong both of them are in fighting and comments on how she finds both of their personalities as interesting and likeable and find it hard to choose which guy to confess to, to which the scene ends with her stating, "I will confess to whomever among those two that can defeat me, or at least give me a better fight and tougher challenge in this year-end tournament."
So, the first few episodes we can see those two guys transferring to this former all-girls school and they get to meet the girls as their classmates, and soon get to know each other, make friends etc...
To make both of our male protagonists have a unique personality, let the MC have a personality where he is shy of females ( which is caused by him interacting with only his elder brother who is born with a much lower magical power than the MC, and father at a secluded island for all that time making a living by farming, hunting, and fishing.
The MC develops his powers till he's ranked 10th now due to training and learning from books all by himself since he was 5 years old on all the spells and tips on raising magical power at their house's old library where there are plenty of books on such stuff left behind by the MC and his elder bro's late mother, and their late mother who died just 3 years after the MC was born was a former 15th Ranked magic wielder. He also trained with his elder brother a lot, but after he turns 10 years old, his skills and powers compared to his elder bro rapidly increased and now as our story starts, he is now ranked 10th, and his elder bro ranked a measly 83rd in magic power.
The rank is calculated by a device that most households have that connects to the network of Mana Sensors throughout the country that can accurately tell the Magic Power rank of every person in the country, and that device left by their late mom is used by the MC to calculate his power a few months before the story starts, and the MC was shocked to find out that he is ranked 10th now.
The MC transferred to this school at this bigger island which is located much father away from their smaller secluded island after the Chancellor of their country, which I will name Charlene, personally visited their house and told them that the MC must transfer and attend the school at the Academy on the other bigger island, and I'll just call it St. Elveria Academy for now, as it's always been an all-girls academy before it turned co-ed just a year before to accomodate the rising number of male children born with magic powers.
The MC agreed after being told it was imperative for the country's national interest that his magical talents need to be nurtured even further at that academy, and was also told by Chancellor Charlene that other than him, an other male prodigy that possesses similar magical powers as the MC, is also invited to transfer to St. Elveria. )
So, while our MC is shy of females, and this causes her female classmates to be super nice to him including those in his soon-to-be Harem( thus creating a plot device where no heroines uses violence to our MC even over accidents ), that other male protag is used to be around females, as his mom still lives till now, and he has a big family of 2 younger sisters and 2 elder sisters. So the other male is used to be with females, and he will have his own interesting interaction with the 2 girls in his own harem that he will befriend at St.Elveria Academy.
So, during the first half of the show, those 2 main male cast gets their own close female friends at St. Elveria, and then summer holiday starts and those 2 male protag and their harem goes on vacation together to the biggest island in their country on a trip sponsored by by their Headmistress to the biggest island in their country ( it's an island and isle country kinda like Philippines and Britain in real life ) The Headmistress said the trip is meant for those who are ranked 25 and above, and only for those who applys to join. There a few days after arriving at that biggest island, the MC gets into a situation where he is separated from the group due to being led to such a secluded place by the antagonist, and there he gets attacked by the antagonist.
He fought back valiantly, but despite releasing all his powers that lightly damaged the cloaked assailant's magic barrier, which is quite strong, in the end the MC couldn't sustain that level of power for long and passed out due to Magic Exhaustion. As the assailant is about to finish the MC off, she detects the presence of someone having an even greater magic power than her racing to their location, so she quickly retreated from that area.
The MC was brought to his room at the dorm he and the rest of his friends are staying at by a mysterious robed figure wearing a mask. One of the heroines in MC's harem who came to visit MC's room and found it unlocked, found that robed figure sneaking in carrying MC and tried to cast a spell to immobilize her thinking that she is a kidnapper attempting to kidnap MC, but her spell got reflected back and she ends up immobilized instead.
The mysterious person told her about the MC's situation of being assaulted by someone and told her to get the MC to visit a scientist known as Dr. Michelle who lives at a mansion not far from their dorm after the MC wakes up. She told the heroine that Dr. Michelle has a device that can train the MC to get stronger, and then she left. Just half a minute after that masked figure left, the spell's effect finally worn off, and she could move and she hurriedly checked out MC's situation and called the other 2 female friends of the MC's harem to report and discuss about this situation etc..
A few days later those 3 girls from MC's harem leaves the dorm to go shopping while the MC goes off to train at a secluded area to concentrate on his training, and then the 3 heroines talk about how they're gonna each cook and make a dish for the MC and propose a cooking competition on whose dish that the MC would like the most, and when they're shopping they bump into the other male friend of the MC with his 2 female friends in his own harem, and then after some discussion where the MC's male friend is concerrned about the MC's currrent situation, they come to take a short break at a cafe to discuss about the past few days when the MC passed out after overusing his powers in a fight against one of the antagonists, and they discussed on how the MC is quite strong with his powers but can't use it more than a limited amount of time, so now the MC is currently training with a new equipment invented by Dr. Michelle in order to train him to enable him to increase the time on how he can hold that power for longer when fighting.
There, the MC's male friend and 2 girls from his harem changed the topic and asked the 3 girls whether they like the MC or not, and after some funny dialogue where they're all embarrassed and flustered, those 3 heroines come to terms with their feelings, and said that while they all like the MC, they are aware that the other 2 also liked him and didn't want to make a confession as to not hurt their 4-member "friendship" and "team".
So, they all decided that they should just suppress their feelings and just fight with the MC together in their school life and confess individually after graduation. In response, the MC's best friend then responded they should confess now as the future is uncertain so it is wise for them to make a move now, and encourages them that despite who the MC chooses or doesn't choose, they should remain close friends and team-mates, and then the other 2 girls in his harem also agreed, and those two also mentioned the fact that while both of them have confessed their feelings to the MC's male friend already, he needs more time to think on who to choose as he has stated that he is attracted to both of them and find it hard to choose on which one to be his girlfriend, and has said he will make the decision on who to choose after a year from now to focus on the school tournament at year's end as they need the team to be united with no awkwardness until the tournament is over, so they agreed to hold on until then and remain as 3 close friends for now.
So the scene ends with those 3 characters managing to convince the 3 girls to confess to the MC after the year-end tournament, so the story can continue with all the Harem Hi-Jinks even if the MC is dense ( an example would be an addition of a 4th girl to MC's harem that disrupts their relationship dynamics and threatens their pledge to confess at year's end ) .
Fastforward to the final few episodes of the show and the Tournament Arc starts.
In the Tournament Arc, it will be a Team-Based Tournamant like Seirei Tsukai no Blade Dance, and Max Limit for a team would be 5 people, like the MC's Team. So in the Tornament Arc, there will be three major fight sequences that will be the most interesting highlights of the Tourney, and they are :
1. 4 girls from MC's Harem VS 3 girls from MC's male friend's Harem in a Team fight. According to the rules of the tournament, this Team Battle will be based on a Tag Team format, with each fighters from the MC's team and his male friend's team fighting one-on-one until the result is decided. The rules state that only the Team that has defeated at least one opponent can use the Tag Out system, in which a fighter can tag with another fighter in her/his team for one time only after a minute has passed into a fight. In this fight, both the MC and his male friend agreed to let their female comrades in each of their own team/harem fight first before those two clash at the very end.
To make this fight a tough challenge for MC's girls, two of the girls in the other guy's Harem are Ranked 11 and 12 respectively, which is higher than Girl D in MC's Harem that is only ranked 14, and the other three girls in MC's Harem that are ranked 16,17, and 19. The challenge will be how they could use the MC's teachings to win with a special technique that the MC taught them that will allow them to win with techniques despite the difference in magical power. The fight starts at first with the girl ranked 15 from the other guy's team fighting against girl ranked 19 from MC's team. The fight went badly for the MC's girl, but in the end she used one of the techniques that the MC taught her and the match ends with a draw, as the MC's girl gets knocked out K.O, while the other girl from the other guy's team suffered a ring out when the MC's girl attacks blew her away from the stage and she fell on her back outside the ring in a very fast manner that she had no time to concentrate and use her magic to float above so that her body won't touch the ground outside the ring. In a draw, both fighters are forced to retire, so that leaves just 3 girls in MC's team and 2 girls in the other guy's team. Due to this draw, both teams get a Tag Out.
The next fights will result in MC's 3 girls using all the techniques and methods the MC taught them, thus allowing them to painstakingly and gruellingly defeat other guy's girl ranked 12 by Magic Exhaustion due to the 12th Ranker underestimating them and refusing to tag out with her other comrade ranked 11th.
As a result, the 12th Ranker overused her Magic Points to 0 and by the time the 14th Ranker from MC's team fired her magic attack that reduced her MP to just 3, the 12th Ranker no longer has any MP left to float, fly or use magic barriers to block the attack and is blown out the ring. However, the other 2 girls in MC's team were already defeated by the 12th Ranker at that point since those 2 girl's job is just to waste the 12th Ranker's MPs so they fought defensively as MC taught them.
So that leaves an already exhausted 14th Ranker girl from MC's team to face a fresh 11th Ranker from the other team, so since they gained a new Tag Out from defeating the 12th Ranker, the MC says it's time to tag out, so now the 10th Ranked MC starts fighting the 11th Ranked girl. Of course, the MC will win, so now there are 2 members left from MC's team and 1 member left on the MC's male friend team. Now, the second big fight sequence starts !!
2. Finally the MC whose rank is 10th starts the fight against his male friend ranked 9th ! Of course, the MC must win since he's the MC, and the difference between their powers is not so significant compared to the difference between Rank 8 and Rank 7, so after a long and flashy fight, MC wins but has more than half of his MP, and stamina depleted. Last fight of the tournament starts !
3. The MC will finally fight against the 8th Ranked 3rd-year Senpai girl. Her team has only one member, as she deems no other fighters are strong enough as the fighters in those two boys' teams, so she fights alone, like Velsaria does, in the anime Seirei Tsukai no Blade Dance.
The MC's MP is almost depleted after a few minutes into the fight, as the previous fight with his male friend really pushed him to his limits, so the Senpai is just about to win, when their fight is interrupted when the school headmistress whose rank is 5th strongest magic wielder in the entire country made an emergency annoucement about an attack by terrorists led by the 7th Ranked woman whose name is Miranda and is a former general of the Army that has turned evil due to her being told about some secrets related to the fragment from the mysterious explosion 70 years ago, and Miranda is one of the antagonist that the MC has previously fought before and lost ( that's the previous incident I wrote in my post before when the MC passed out due to that fight at the Biggest Island in their country, and Miranda only withdrew during that time because she sensed someone stronger than her heading towards her which is the Headmistress wearing a cloak and mask to hide her identity coming to MC's rescue )
The last scenes will include lots of interesting dialogues where the 8th Ranked Senpai will try to protect the 2 main male characters, their harem and all students of the school from Miranda, who is just 1 Rank above her, since the Headmistress ranked 5th is trapped in a new form of magic barrier that is created from Miranda casting magic mixed with the unusual power generated from one of the fragments of the past explosion 70 years ago that she was given by the ringleader and mastermind of their organization, so the Headmistress can't do anything to protect them, so it's all up to the beautiful Senpai girl whose also Student Council President to try and stop Miranda.
In mid-fight, Senpai will face a tough time, but after both the 2 boys have recovered all of their MP and stamina thanks to a Healer student who hails from a noble family and is ranked 23 and previously dropped out of the tournament used her prized family gem to heal the 2 boys to Max, so those 2 boys can finally help Senpai fight 3-on-1 against the evil Miranda.
Elsewhere, the teachers of this school mostly ranked between 22-40 helped the other students to defeat Miranda's other henchwomen, but unfortunately around 7 female students and 13 other male students who are the weakest students in magic power ratings in the entire school were killed by those henchwomen, who are quite numerous, and the teachers couldn't protect them in time. The dead students are just like background NPCs, so it's irrelevant to the plot even after their deaths. Those casualties are needed for emphasizing how evil Miranda and her organization she belongs to are.
At the end of this arc those 3 finally defeat Miranda, and a mysterious figure cloaked in red took back the fragment and ran. The Headmistress will finally be released from the barrier that trapped her in that Magic Cage due to the spell's effects wearing off from Miranda's defeat at the hands of the SC Prez and the 2 boys. So this Tournament Arc ends with the SC Prez AKA Senpai still undecided who to confess to among the 2 boys, so she decides to interact more with both of them to get to know those 2 better, much to the chagrin and jealousy of their respective harems lol.
So that is my example of how a Harem Anime/LN would be more interesting if there is another story-significant male character other than the MC that would enable such interesing interactions and character relationship dynamics.
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