hakuyu said: Here's a newer Josei that's not in the top 1000 in both rating and popularity: http://myanimelist.net/anime/13349/Chouyaku_Hyakuninisshu:_Uta_Koi. I can explain why it's not that popular, though. YAS THIS ONE IS PURE GOLD. (gently whispers ristorante paradiso into everybody's ears) |
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| Is princess jellyfish josei? If not.. it shows that it's kind of a misconception that all of it is slow paced. Princess Jellyfish is pretty upbeat with a lot of humor |
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silversongwriter said: Is princess jellyfish josei? If not.. it shows that it's kind of a misconception that all of it is slow paced. Princess Jellyfish is pretty upbeat with a lot of humor Definitely is one, and it's still similar to the other tropes: Realistic and about an unpopular topic (beauty, acceptance) |
[right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
hakuyu said: i'm gonna blame it on the hatsHere's a newer Josei that's not in the top 1000 in both rating and popularity: http://myanimelist.net/anime/13349/Chouyaku_Hyakuninisshu:_Uta_Koi. I can explain why it's not that popular, though. |
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Content said: The sports tag helps. Nice avatar |
| On the topic of Uta Koi: Firstly, it's historical. Looking at the highest rated historical anime on this website, they all have action as a subgenre, or are like Mushishi which isn't really Historical at all. Secondly, it's romance. If we do the same, the highest rated romance on this website are modern ones with only one main pairing. |
| [right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
hakuyu said: silversongwriter said: I just don't get it... It's not bad, but I honestly can't see why people think it's so great Let's not get off track from the topic. Leave Usagi Drop out of this for now. What you're saying is something already said with every other highly rated show. silversongwriter said: and did you just compare mushi-shi and usagi drop? I am, because they are similar and very well received in anime communities. Feel free to give me your criticisms on why it's not a good show. Never really said Usagi Drop was bad. For me there's not too much to praise (besides the music and animation), or condemn... For me, it's just okay. |
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| Josei isnt popular because there arent many adult female otaku/weabs. |
VitaminCaim said: All the girls look ugly in josei so plz no you think so? |
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silversongwriter said: like how on MAL Loveless is called Shoujo But on wikipedia it's called Josei The most accurate source is this: https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=1565 So, yes it is Josei. |
| [right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
Content said: silversongwriter said: Nice fast edit. Fortunately, not everyone is ignorant as you. I was trying to imply that if there was such a thing as josei + yaoi, then it'd be popular enough to be known about. You just said it, eh? "simply by looking at the fact that the vast majority of yaoi fans are female...". Mal tags are inconsistent. Just googling around will suffice.Well... Wikipedia mislabels a lot of shoujo anime as josei... so maybe I guess that would explain it. But to someone really ignorant... Someone ignorant of josei anime... I could see how one would come to that conclusion... simply by looking at the fact that the vast majority of yaoi fans are female... To someone uneducated about the genre, it'd be easy to make that misconception. like how on MAL Loveless is called Shoujo But on wikipedia it's called Josei Wikipedia sucks for anime Content said: silversongwriter said: Nice fast edit. Fortunately, not everyone is ignorant as you. I was trying to imply that if there was such a thing as josei + yaoi, then it'd be popular enough to be known about. You just said it, eh? "simply by looking at the fact that the vast majority of yaoi fans are female...". Mal tags are inconsistent. Just googling around will suffice.Well... Wikipedia mislabels a lot of shoujo anime as josei... so maybe I guess that would explain it. But to someone really ignorant... Someone ignorant of josei anime... I could see how one would come to that conclusion... simply by looking at the fact that the vast majority of yaoi fans are female... To someone uneducated about the genre, it'd be easy to make that misconception. like how on MAL Loveless is called Shoujo But on wikipedia it's called Josei Wikipedia sucks for anime Exactly... that's my point. Ignorance about the genre and what it's really like might be the reason a lot of people don't ever give it a chance. |
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R3C said: I find them kinda boring and slow-paced, just like most slice of life animes. Can't explain why slice of life is more popular, though. Because not everyone gets bored without fighting? |
R3C said: I find them kinda boring and slow-paced, just like most slice of life animes. Can't explain why slice of life is more popular, though. Cute girls doing cute things. $$$$$$$$ But seriously, SOL is too broad to talk about. You have stuff like Aria, and then there's stuff like K-On!. |
| [right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
hakuyu said: R3C said: I find them kinda boring and slow-paced, just like most slice of life animes. Can't explain why slice of life is more popular, though. Cute girls doing cute things. $$$$$$$$ you can never have enough of that |
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chuuzenjis said: VitaminCaim said: All the girls look ugly in josei so plz no you think so? Real otaku bait looks like this: |
| [right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
hakuyu said: from what i get from the wikipedia article, comic zero sum is in the 'targeted towards female readers' gray zone; even on their mangaupdate page their manga are labeled both shoujo and josei, so neither of them is totally rightsilversongwriter said: like how on MAL Loveless is called Shoujo But on wikipedia it's called Josei The most accurate source is this: https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=1565 So, yes it is Josei. https://www.mangaupdates.com/publishers.html?pubname=Comic+Zero-Sum |
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| Probably just repeating what everyone else has said but because it doesn't pander to the bigger audience. I'm told iosei anime does fairly well in TV ratings, stuff like Chihayafuru, but they're not the kind of stuff that sells anime-wise. |
| people also forget there's action in josei... 07-ghost was one I was planning on watching. But then someone here warned me it had shonen-ai elements, so I'm not gonna bother watching to find out if it does or not. but I will say that it's an action series, that's all I know... And that proves not all Josei is slow-paced romance/drama. I was surprised by princess jellyfish because it wasn't slow paced either. The jokes were rapid, and the characters were so much more cartoonish than I'd have expected from josei... if there was no crossdressing or talk of fashion, I'd have assumed it was a seinen comedy. |
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silversongwriter said: people also forget there's action in josei... 07-ghost was one I was planning on watching. Which is Shoujo |
| [right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
hakuyu said: chuuzenjis said: you think so? Real otaku bait looks like this: i thought we were talking about what real men like no but jokes aside i think the girls in josei are a million times more likable but then again i'm not a guy so.. |
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hakuyu said: silversongwriter said: people also forget there's action in josei... 07-ghost was one I was planning on watching. Which is Shoujo Oh... well again.. fuck wikipedia. hakuyu said: chuuzenjis said: you think so? Real otaku bait looks like this: who was that crying chick? anyways, I gotta be honest, I'll take the real otaku bait anyday. |
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silversongwriter said: who was that crying chick? anyways, I gotta be honest, I'll take the real otaku bait anyday. Some girl in Bakemonogatari. My point wasn't to diss anyone but art style does matter to most people. And "cute" sells. chuuzenjis said: i thought we were talking about what real men like no but jokes aside i think the girls in josei are a million times more likable but then again i'm not a guy so.. I watch every demographic and I like a few in both. I'm more into personality rather than moe factor, but I'm pretty sure most people just care about "best grils" |
| [right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
silversongwriter said: hakuyu said: Which is Shoujo Oh... well again.. fuck wikipedia. hakuyu said: Real otaku bait looks like this: who was that crying chick? anyways, I gotta be honest, I'll take the real otaku bait anyday. How do you not know about bakemonogatari? |
ChairForceOne said: silversongwriter said: Oh... well again.. fuck wikipedia. who was that crying chick? anyways, I gotta be honest, I'll take the real otaku bait anyday. How do you not know about bakemonogatari? I do, just never seen it yet |
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hakuyu said: silversongwriter said: who was that crying chick? anyways, I gotta be honest, I'll take the real otaku bait anyday. Some girl in Bakemonogatari. My point wasn't to diss anyone but art style does matter to most people. And "cute" sells. i dont really care as long as i get a new josei series from time to time. there hasn't been anything new in a while |
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silversongwriter said: psa: Monthly Comic Zero Sum is neither shoujo or joseihakuyu said: Which is Shoujo Oh... well again.. fuck wikipedia. |
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chuuzenjis said: You obviously haven't seen pretty looking women. Here, look at the graceful beauty of the female-that-isn't-joseiVitaminCaim said: All the girls look ugly in josei so plz no you think so? |
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hakuyu said: chuuzenjis said: i thought we were talking about what real men like no but jokes aside i think the girls in josei are a million times more likable but then again i'm not a guy so.. I watch every demographic and I like a few in both. I'm more into personality rather than moe factor, but I'm pretty sure most people just care about "best grils" yeah i agree. oh well to each their own |
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chuuzenjis said: hakuyu said: Real otaku bait looks like this: i thought we were talking about what real men like no but jokes aside i think the girls in josei are a million times more likable but then again i'm not a guy so.. They look more like real women, maybe that's why otakus don't like them. |
VitaminCaim said: chuuzenjis said: You obviously haven't seen pretty looking women. Here, look at the graceful beauty of the female-that-isn't-joseiyou think so? excuse me for my utter ridiculousness |
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chuuzenjis said: hakuyu said: I watch every demographic and I like a few in both. I'm more into personality rather than moe factor, but I'm pretty sure most people just care about "best grils" yeah i agree. oh well to each their own can't ya have both? You can be moe and have a great personality at the same time. |
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R3C said: They look more like real women, maybe that's why otakus don't like them. you might actually be right. which is really sad. |
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R3C said: They look more like real women, maybe that's why otakus don't like them. Just like how Jojo's Bizarre Adventure and Hajime no Ippo's male characters look like us male otaku, REAL MEN! silversongwriter said: can't ya have both? You can be moe and have a great personality at the same time. Moe art style usually equates to ditzy and stupidness most of the time. Rarely, there are worthy females who can pull of both. |
| [right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
| Because television anime is for children and teenagers, not adults. |
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R3C said: chuuzenjis said: i thought we were talking about what real men like no but jokes aside i think the girls in josei are a million times more likable but then again i'm not a guy so.. They look more like real women, maybe that's why otakus don't like them. Don't get me wrong, I love me some MILF too. |
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romagia said: psa: Monthly Comic Zero Sum is neither shoujo or josei Is that so? Most of the ones here are labeled as such. |
Red_Keys said: Because television anime is for children and teenagers, not adults. that's actually not the case in japan though |
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hakuyu said: R3C said: They look more like real women, maybe that's why otakus don't like them. Just like how Jojo's Bizarre Adventure and Hajime no Ippo's male characters look like us male otaku, REAL MEN! silversongwriter said: can't ya have both? You can be moe and have a great personality at the same time. Moe art style usually equates to ditzy and stupidness most of the time. Rarely, there are worthy females who can pull of both. Yea... but I like that... just my type I guess |
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dream_eater1012 said: romagia said: psa: Monthly Comic Zero Sum is neither shoujo or josei Is that so? Most of the ones here are labeled as such. I'm seeing the trend of fantasy/action/adventure. With my experience with a few of these titles, they are definitely Shoujo. |
| [right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
Red_Keys said: Because television anime is for children and teenagers, not adults. then explain why seinen is so popular? oh... I forgot, it's because it's generally about as mature as shonen is... that kinda does explain everything. in fact, I've seen seinen less mature than your average shonen anime |
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chuuzenjis said: *normal adultsRed_Keys said: Because television anime is for children and teenagers, not adults. that's actually not the case in japan though |
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Red_Keys said: chuuzenjis said: *normal adultsthat's actually not the case in japan though oh i see you were talking about the general public. sorry i misunderstood :) |
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silversongwriter said: Red_Keys said: Because television anime is for children and teenagers, not adults. then explain why seinen is so popular? oh... I forgot, it's because it's generally about as mature as shonen is... that kinda does explain everything. in fact, I've seen seinen less mature than your average shonen anime A lot of seinen involve cute girls doing cute things. |
| When was the last time we had a mature Seinen that's not about high school kids? |
| [right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
Paul said: silversongwriter said: then explain why seinen is so popular? oh... I forgot, it's because it's generally about as mature as shonen is... that kinda does explain everything. in fact, I've seen seinen less mature than your average shonen anime A lot of seinen involve cute girls doing cute things. well to be honest... I think only two kinds of anime should be super popular... sci-fi action and moe... I want josei to be more popular, but between having the market flooded with mature josei romance and silly moe SOL... sorry, I'm picking the moe. In fact, it's kind of a good thing moe anime is more popular, because I could see Josei romance getting old super quick if there was a shit ton of it. Not bashing josei... but I gotta say, moe definitely deserves it's popularity. |
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hakuyu said: When was the last time we had a mature Seinen that's not about high school kids? Apparently Tokyo Ghoul's manga is a seinen, despite it feeling more like a shounen. Here's a list of 2015 seinen anime on MAL. Just look at the pics to see if they're typical cute girls doing cute things or not. Will probably get bigger as more titles are announced. |
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