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Jan 9, 2018 6:39 AM
#401
Phraze said: Century_Orion said: I see.. asking for a universal townread + not backreading looks bad tho. and if this is 4 scum 1 tpr, it won't be easy to narrow suspects down.Phraze said: Century_Orion said: ..... what kind of question is that?Is there someone everyone can agree on to likely be town? I mean I want the opinions from different people on who might be town or not, so that I can have an better idea on who the majority thinks is innocent, which also helps me narrow down on who to suspect. @RE1031 Same reply as given to Phraze guess I'll leave the vote on ironace in case I ain't around for phase change. Karote voted Abu, so they're probably t/t or Karote is scum. the darcs look like possible t/s. not sure who the others are atm. Suzune kinda townreading Fyrus is...understandable? but it could be s/s. will just leave it at this. You ... understand it? Please help me out and explain it then. |
Jan 9, 2018 6:56 AM
#402
riku said: ScarletCelestial said: RE1031 said: ScarletCelestial said: Well, do you think they are lurky?riku said: ScarletCelestial said: Did you just call me lurky.... wtf Phraze said: ScarletCelestial said: Phraze said: ScarletCelestial said: Phraze said: post count scale (to my memory): RE Fyrus Roz Scarlet Friendo Yurkin Abu Tainted YourTrashCan darc ironace TheConquerer Phraze riku Karote Century_Orion Suzune Fyrus still possible town/tpr lean for me. RE is RE - those debate walls are kinda a towntell for her. Conq's recent posts have been helpful (seen 1-town 1-scum games from him). ironace hasn't been weird so far, and he's always defensive. Friendo is probs town. Roz is fine so far. Karote doesn't go crazy like I usually see him do. one of Century or Suzune couid be hiding scum. Vote: Karote idm leaving the active ppl alive. and this vote has some reason compared to the other 2. Apart from Karote acting somewhat sane, why do you think Karote is scum? in one of the old games, he said he's bad at D1s and will usually pull silly moves to get by (that's usually why he's insane). this Karote doesnt seem desperate to get a lead. its not a bad reason, and better than nothing. Why are you basing your whole case on meta, when he could end up being replaced later on and there are possibly more scummy lynches in the active players? well, its not rly meta. could say this is how all players usually react when scum, since they just pretend without actually doing it, and I can confirm the behavioral pattern is smthing Karote is likely to portray compared to the others (I have no clue about). if he's replaced, I can just read the new person based off their own values on the same scale. and honestly, if we spare inactives it'll lead to a lurky game later on. scum will always NK the most townread/active player. D1s have no leads, so the pressure is best used on an inactive. maybe towards the end of the Day, we can decide to lynch an active-but-scummy player. votes can be used in more ways than just lynching. Well, I can't disagree with this reasoning other than that if Century and Suzuku don't turn up they'll be replaced anyway... Karote and riku however might be a good lynch if we don't come up with any better since they are more generally lurky. I personally believe that getting rid of the scummiest player is probably for the best, but I can see where you're coming from. It was more based on Phraze's list, because they thought you and Karote had the lowest post count other than Cent and Suzuku. As of the point that was made, all they had done was a bit of fluff and an RVS. Came back Page 6, feels pretty much all fluff again, but with a quote from the game. Saying he was being accused of lurking. I can say he isn't a lurker now, but riku isn't doing anything to help either. So they are as much use as a lurker. That's an ignorant assumption to think that my posts are useless, thus they mean I'm equal to lurking. By posting, I have at least given you one piece of information: I am watching the thread, and am informing the players I am watching. A lurker would not provide this, as they simply watch without making their presence known - thus the term. Each post I have made, has commented a little about my thoughts. I never make my thoughts clear, because that makes me a target. Erm... Just watching the thread *is* what lurking is. That's how you can tell the difference between a lurker and an inactive. Why do you think sharing your thoughts makes you a target? That's how people can read others. |
Jan 9, 2018 7:15 AM
#403
So yeah falling asleep and EoD is at 6am my time so obviously I won't be around. Vote: Fyrusking I don't see him replying to me, I don't understand town reads on him, I don't understand any of his thoughts and I town read the current wagon a lot more (phraze if I'm not mistaken). Obviously this is the tl;dr version, so if I'm still here D2 I will go into the details. People can see a bit more if they iso me from yesterday though. Obviously I also won't be around to answer questions (people won't believe how often even when I point out I'm sleeping, people go mad that I'm not online at the same time as them :rolleyes:) Night though o/ |
Jan 9, 2018 7:18 AM
#404
Tainted said: I don't think he's an easy lynch candidate. He isn't lurking, at the very least, and has managed to defend himself in long "waffle" posts, as I've heard someone else describe it. And even if he were, he has just as much of a chance at rolling scum as anyone else.Also I'm not so sure about you pushing an easy lynch candidate down even further. Have you played with him before? It seems you knew him before this game. If it's a meta read you're basing your defense off of, I'd understand you more. ironace said: He was tunneling very, very hard on TheConq. It was something scum do, but his pickiness on that one player seemed like something an executioner would do. But he could have just easily have been tunneling for the sake of looking busy. I also don't think your interactions with him look good for either of you. You've jokingly suspected each other and completely avoided the actual figuring each other out part.@re1031 Ok, so you believe i was exageratting that tally thingy right? Welp, it was my first time seeing that so i may have been ...excited? Eh, and also, care to elaborate on what makes you think fyrus is executioner. I mean, how specifically that role? Tainted said: I don't want to wine myself into thinking whether someone is scum or not based on how much they're being suspected. Has never ended well for me without additional information. You want me to consider the possibility he is town? Then give me a reason to. Like I've said, even mislynch bait have just of much chance of rolling scum as anyone else.RE1031 said: wut? You have to consider every possibilities I'm sure you know about this.. saying you don't like it. Does that mean you don't? or is he too scummy for you that you can't assume he's town?Tainted said: Suzune-chan said: I honestly don't know why people would say things like if I was scum I would this is just as bad as ironace's self meta imo and it doesn't really help us clear you or give you town points. Anyway iron is an easy lynch target alright but it could also be the reason why scum is avoiding them I've seen scum do it before.Honestly if I was scum I would push for iron because it is so easy. The set up is right there. The posts and tracks to blow holes in are plain as day. Which is the only thing that makes me hesitate on him and leaves me questioning my read because it seems so clear and I feel like iron is not so clear. |
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Jan 9, 2018 7:18 AM
#405
So here's a crude iso on Phraze. I think I'm gonna keep my vote on her. Phraze said: What she probably meant is you're making yourself look neutral by not picking any sides and just commenting on little things like you're avoiding suspicions.my bad. had FoS on u. gonna change it. and why do u say I appear neutral? thought I was scummy with the way I question ppl. and in that same post, u shade darcs-friend. are u discouraging us giving out opinions? Also you knew it's scummy why are you doing it? Phraze said: what's wrong with asking someone else what they think of your scumreads? This really sounds like an attempt to shade someone. Same with the post belowmind telling me if I missed smthing. thought u were the one suspecting ironace alot. why ask someone else? Phraze said: I don't even know what happened here.. Phraze just pulled something out of nothing.Suzune-chan said: if u townread yurkin, u wouldn't want them lynched. why do u say 'for now'? if u couldn't read yurkin in the first place, its best to leave them at neutral. unless, apparently, neutral means lynch candidate? (since u say I'm neutral) how many of the current playerbase are neutral to u atm? can u vote them all? not sure if I see a good reason behind this.Phraze said: Suzune-chan said: I find this an interesting read. looks reserved. reasons would be nice@Yurkin is fine for now, I am not interested in lynching that spot right now. It has done nothing to move me one way or the other and few of the posts I rather liked. Also those questions she's just making suzune look bad. Suzune-chan said: I played enough. don't mind playing it more. devil's advocate that is.Phraze said: Suzune-chan said: ok. what opinions do u want? and what opinions do u have on us all?@Phraze Nah. I rather dislike when people play the whole field without truly giving their opinions. and I've alrdy given my opinions here. not sure how much is changed. out of Century/Suzune, I'm sure one was scum...and I'm leaning u for scum. don't agree with ur reads and u seem to shade even a townread (yurkin) Phraze said: Another one.. If not you who?if u rly have a problem concerning progress, why do u wanna dwell on me? u must be on to smthing, or just refuse to look for smthing. |
Jan 9, 2018 7:21 AM
#406
I mean, I think my reads would be perfectly well understood if I said it before people noticed that fact. Like atm I dislike darc, cause of they having different mindset and opinion then me. I also really do think that you could be mafia trying to push me cause of current situation. You said your stuff in rather unnatural way. As of who I like, I slightly like TrashCan and RE atm, but probably enough to really call them as town. Btw. My truthfulness blessing should continue tommorow. |
Jan 9, 2018 7:24 AM
#407
ScarletCelestial said: darc-star said: @scarletcelestial #231 (teach me how to imbed links) your post is too long for quoting, lol considering the wincon for 3p is “conquer all tastes” or whatever, you think thats an exe? also, i think you mean my friend, not me for a lots of the times you mentioned “darc”, can we call them friend or something? I think that RE's case of them being executioner makes sense, but not necessarily true because I think it's pretty wrong to assume. Executioner I have seen before so I at least know the mechanic and with how his entire focus is on lynching a single player, it could suggest executioner. (Abu wasn't a very good executioner, he just quit on his Day 2 target, outed himself, then got shot.) Friend's (Darc_Star = Darc now and Darcs_Friend = Friend) case for why they are likely TPR makes sense as well. Since Executioner is a TPR role, it would fit. However, I'm not ruling out the possibility that he is actually a part of the Mafia. It just feels that with the case on him that makes him TPR, it is a bit more likely. There is also the very small chance that he might be Town, but it is really infinitesimal at present so not even worth considering. Eh... could you ignore one thing according to this whole TPR case? Where did you miss the executioner from? I couldn't understand the thing about cult with "finding people", but I can with executioner. So... anyone can ignore this thing and not tell me where tf you didn't get exec from? |
Jan 9, 2018 7:26 AM
#408
roz1roz said: I've replied to you already regarding the executioner thing.Eh... could you ignore one thing according to this whole TPR case? Where did you miss the executioner from? I couldn't understand the thing about cult with "finding people", but I can with executioner. So... anyone can ignore this thing and not tell me where tf you didn't get exec from? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Jan 9, 2018 7:33 AM
#409
Darcs-friend said: Why do you townread Phraze again?So yeah falling asleep and EoD is at 6am my time so obviously I won't be around. Vote: Fyrusking I don't see him replying to me, I don't understand town reads on him, I don't understand any of his thoughts and I town read the current wagon a lot more (phraze if I'm not mistaken). Obviously this is the tl;dr version, so if I'm still here D2 I will go into the details. People can see a bit more if they iso me from yesterday though. Obviously I also won't be around to answer questions (people won't believe how often even when I point out I'm sleeping, people go mad that I'm not online at the same time as them :rolleyes:) Night though o/ |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Jan 9, 2018 7:40 AM
#410
Vote Count 1.3 Phraze (3): Suzune-chan, Tainted, Fyrusking Fyrusking (3): TheConquerer, RE1031, darcs-friend AbuHumaid (2): riku, Karote ironace (2): darc-star, Phraze, riku (2): YourTrashCan, ironace roz1roz (1): AbuHumaid ScarletCelestial (1): yurkin Not voting: roz1roz, Century_Orion, ScarletCelestial Inverted Tally: ScarletCelestial: Riku (1), unvote (14) TheConquerer: Fyrusking (2) roz1roz: AbuHumaid (3) Tainted TheConquerer (4), Phraze (23) AbuHumaid: riku (5) Karote: ironace (6), AbuHumaid (20) yurkin: Tainted (7), ScarletCelstial (13) darcs-friend: darc-star (8), yurkin (16), Fyruskiing (28) RE1031: ironace (9), Fyrusking (17) Phraze: TheConquerer (10), Karote (18), Suzune-chan (21), ironace (22) YourTrashCan: Riku (11) darc-star: ironace (12) Fyrusking: TheConquerer (15), Phraze (24), ironace (26), Phraze (27) Suzune-chan: Phraze (19) ironace: riku (25) Individual Changes in Votes: ScarletCelestial: Riku > unvote TheConquerer: Fyrusking ironace: riku Tainted: TheConquerer > Phraze darc-star: ironace yurkin: Tainted > ScarletCelestial roz1roz: Century_Orion: RE1031: ironace > Fyrusking Phraze: TheConquerer > Karote > Suzune-chan > ironace Karote: ironace > AbuHumaid AbuHumaid: roz1roz riku: Abuhumaid Suzune-chan: Phraze darcs-friend: darc-star > yurkin > Fyrusking YourTrashCan: riku Fyrusking: TheConquerer > Phraze > ironace > Phraze Previous Vote Counts: Day 1 | 1.0 | 1.1 | 1.2 | 1.3 | 1.4 | 1.5 | 1.6 | 1.7 | 1.8 | Final | Night 1 Phase Change Timer Host Notes: Sorry for the wait. I will be prodding Century. if you didn't use a colon I may have missed your vote so please let me know if their are any mistakes. Edit: Typos |
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Jan 9, 2018 7:40 AM
#411
I'm having internet problems, so don't expect much from me this phase and I won't be here for phase change, it's sad, I was excited for this game. Hopefully it'll be solved tomorrow |
Jan 9, 2018 7:49 AM
#412
Jan 9, 2018 7:49 AM
#413
@Darcs-friend I forgot about you... but i will still reply! |
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Jan 9, 2018 7:53 AM
#414
Darcs-friend said: So yeah falling asleep and EoD is at 6am my time so obviously I won't be around. Vote: Fyrusking I don't see him replying to me, I don't understand town reads on him, I don't understand any of his thoughts and I town read the current wagon a lot more (phraze if I'm not mistaken). Obviously this is the tl;dr version, so if I'm still here D2 I will go into the details. People can see a bit more if they iso me from yesterday though. Obviously I also won't be around to answer questions (people won't believe how often even when I point out I'm sleeping, people go mad that I'm not online at the same time as them :rolleyes:) Night though o/ i dunno, i guess i could see him as scum, but still think hes more likely to be town than not but apparently you cant understand me thinking that sharing all thoughts without worrying about how they sound is often towny (that phrasing sounds bad, but you literally said you cant understand the reads, and thats the read i gave when you asked me about it) |
Jan 9, 2018 7:57 AM
#415
RE1031 said: His defence didn't really do anything to take him off of everyone's scum list but yeah I've played with him before but that game was pretty slow and relies heavily on mechanical scum hunting and also it's roleplay so I don't have much meta on him but pushing for his opinions like what he did is definitely something he would do.Tainted said: I don't think he's an easy lynch candidate. He isn't lurking, at the very least, and has managed to defend himself in long "waffle" posts, as I've heard someone else describe it. And even if he were, he has just as much of a chance at rolling scum as anyone else.Also I'm not so sure about you pushing an easy lynch candidate down even further. Have you played with him before? It seems you knew him before this game. If it's a meta read you're basing your defense off of, I'd understand you more. Tainted said: I don't want to wine myself into thinking whether someone is scum or not based on how much they're being suspected. Has never ended well for me without additional information. You want me to consider the possibility he is town? Then give me a reason to. Like I've said, even mislynch bait have just of much chance of rolling scum as anyone else.RE1031 said: Tainted said: I like this post except for the part where it assumes ironace is town.Suzune-chan said: I honestly don't know why people would say things like if I was scum I would this is just as bad as ironace's self meta imo and it doesn't really help us clear you or give you town points. Anyway iron is an easy lynch target alright but it could also be the reason why scum is avoiding them I've seen scum do it before.Honestly if I was scum I would push for iron because it is so easy. The set up is right there. The posts and tracks to blow holes in are plain as day. Which is the only thing that makes me hesitate on him and leaves me questioning my read because it seems so clear and I feel like iron is not so clear. |
Jan 9, 2018 7:59 AM
#416
eugh, so... my vote on iron was sposed to be temporary, just to see what happened and i guess his (?) return was... good enough for now... i like that he made an effort to reply to most things directed at him (he replied to a lot at the very least, but didnt mention my vote) dont like that he made a big thing about being calm about the votes, seems like a lady protesting a great deal about something small but anyway, probably not the best place for my vote however, as i just said, king is... standing out a lot, and an easy target, but i dunno if thats scum and i kinda thought the phraze v suzune was just 2 town not understanding each other (especially with the neutral vs null misunderstanding, and suzune seeming to be mixed on her only town read) so i dont really wanna vote either lead wagon... |
Jan 9, 2018 8:02 AM
#417
Tainted said: RE1031 said: His defence didn't really do anything to take him off of everyone's scum list but yeah I've played with him before but that game was pretty slow and relies heavily on mechanical scum hunting and also it's roleplay so I don't have much meta on him but pushing for his opinions like what he did is definitely something he would do.Tainted said: Also I'm not so sure about you pushing an easy lynch candidate down even further. Have you played with him before? It seems you knew him before this game. If it's a meta read you're basing your defense off of, I'd understand you more. Tainted said: RE1031 said: wut? You have to consider every possibilities I'm sure you know about this.. saying you don't like it. Does that mean you don't? or is he too scummy for you that you can't assume he's town?Tainted said: I like this post except for the part where it assumes ironace is town.Suzune-chan said: I honestly don't know why people would say things like if I was scum I would this is just as bad as ironace's self meta imo and it doesn't really help us clear you or give you town points. Anyway iron is an easy lynch target alright but it could also be the reason why scum is avoiding them I've seen scum do it before.Honestly if I was scum I would push for iron because it is so easy. The set up is right there. The posts and tracks to blow holes in are plain as day. Which is the only thing that makes me hesitate on him and leaves me questioning my read because it seems so clear and I feel like iron is not so clear. you have a town block already? i dont really like the whole bottom paragraph, but i should learn not to be so picky about such phrasing... |
Jan 9, 2018 8:02 AM
#418
Tainted said: RE1031 said: His defence didn't really do anything to take him off of everyone's scum list but yeah I've played with him before but that game was pretty slow and relies heavily on mechanical scum hunting and also it's roleplay so I don't have much meta on him but pushing for his opinions like what he did is definitely something he would do.Tainted said: Also I'm not so sure about you pushing an easy lynch candidate down even further. Have you played with him before? It seems you knew him before this game. If it's a meta read you're basing your defense off of, I'd understand you more. Okay then. vote: Phraze Tainted said: RE1031 said: wut? You have to consider every possibilities I'm sure you know about this.. saying you don't like it. Does that mean you don't? or is he too scummy for you that you can't assume he's town?Tainted said: I like this post except for the part where it assumes ironace is town.Suzune-chan said: I honestly don't know why people would say things like if I was scum I would this is just as bad as ironace's self meta imo and it doesn't really help us clear you or give you town points. Anyway iron is an easy lynch target alright but it could also be the reason why scum is avoiding them I've seen scum do it before.Honestly if I was scum I would push for iron because it is so easy. The set up is right there. The posts and tracks to blow holes in are plain as day. Which is the only thing that makes me hesitate on him and leaves me questioning my read because it seems so clear and I feel like iron is not so clear. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Jan 9, 2018 8:06 AM
#419
Tainted said: So here's a crude iso on Phraze. I think I'm gonna keep my vote on her. Phraze said: What she probably meant is you're making yourself look neutral by not picking any sides and just commenting on little things like you're avoiding suspicions.my bad. had FoS on u. gonna change it. and why do u say I appear neutral? thought I was scummy with the way I question ppl. and in that same post, u shade darcs-friend. are u discouraging us giving out opinions? Also you knew it's scummy why are you doing it? Phraze said: what's wrong with asking someone else what they think of your scumreads? This really sounds like an attempt to shade someone. Same with the post belowmind telling me if I missed smthing. thought u were the one suspecting ironace alot. why ask someone else? Phraze said: I don't even know what happened here.. Phraze just pulled something out of nothing.Suzune-chan said: Phraze said: Right now this feels like town Yurkin to me. The way they are addressing issues and the kinds of points they bring up. Especially the one where they said another person's opinion is twisting thr truth.Suzune-chan said: I find this an interesting read. looks reserved. reasons would be nice@Yurkin is fine for now, I am not interested in lynching that spot right now. It has done nothing to move me one way or the other and few of the posts I rather liked. Also those questions she's just making suzune look bad. Suzune-chan said: Phraze said: I started to share mine, what about you? Or do you just want to play the devil's advocate again?Suzune-chan said: ok. what opinions do u want? and what opinions do u have on us all?@Phraze Nah. I rather dislike when people play the whole field without truly giving their opinions. and I've alrdy given my opinions here. not sure how much is changed. out of Century/Suzune, I'm sure one was scum...and I'm leaning u for scum. don't agree with ur reads and u seem to shade even a townread (yurkin) Phraze said: Another one.. If not you who?if u rly have a problem concerning progress, why do u wanna dwell on me? u must be on to smthing, or just refuse to look for smthing. did you give reasoning with your original vote there? i feel like you kinda hopped on... suzunes reasoning, but could be wrong you searching for reasons after the vote rubs me the wrong way, but i guess you could just have been confirming/reevaluating... also dont like how you start with understanding the confusion that the word neutral caused, but later on seem confused by the continuing misunderstanding and providing quotes, while it helps others understand, isnt a requirement - a simple question as to why they thought 2 people were s/t would have sufficed there |
Jan 9, 2018 8:11 AM
#420
so... i need to sleep think i'll vote: riku mostly because i dont like the other wagons, but i dont like the pickiness on "lurking", and the whole "not sharing stuff in the thread" mentality is pretty scummy not confident here, but i dont have time to double check anyone right now sorry i couldnt be around as much today as id hoped =/ |
Jan 9, 2018 8:23 AM
#421
darc-star said: More like a gut feeling town block based on tone and their actions.Tainted said: RE1031 said: Tainted said: I don't think he's an easy lynch candidate. He isn't lurking, at the very least, and has managed to defend himself in long "waffle" posts, as I've heard someone else describe it. And even if he were, he has just as much of a chance at rolling scum as anyone else.Also I'm not so sure about you pushing an easy lynch candidate down even further. Have you played with him before? It seems you knew him before this game. If it's a meta read you're basing your defense off of, I'd understand you more. Tainted said: I don't want to wine myself into thinking whether someone is scum or not based on how much they're being suspected. Has never ended well for me without additional information. You want me to consider the possibility he is town? Then give me a reason to. Like I've said, even mislynch bait have just of much chance of rolling scum as anyone else.RE1031 said: wut? You have to consider every possibilities I'm sure you know about this.. saying you don't like it. Does that mean you don't? or is he too scummy for you that you can't assume he's town?Tainted said: I like this post except for the part where it assumes ironace is town.Suzune-chan said: I honestly don't know why people would say things like if I was scum I would this is just as bad as ironace's self meta imo and it doesn't really help us clear you or give you town points. Anyway iron is an easy lynch target alright but it could also be the reason why scum is avoiding them I've seen scum do it before.Honestly if I was scum I would push for iron because it is so easy. The set up is right there. The posts and tracks to blow holes in are plain as day. Which is the only thing that makes me hesitate on him and leaves me questioning my read because it seems so clear and I feel like iron is not so clear. you have a town block already? i dont really like the whole bottom paragraph, but i should learn not to be so picky about such phrasing... RE1031 said: hmm. If you're scum hunting you would find the scummiest one and the least scummiest would be your town read but the way sound earlier seems the opposite. You're asking me for reasons to townread him so it's like you're finding the most towny and least towny.Tainted said: I don't want to wine myself into thinking whether someone is scum or not based on how much they're being suspected. Has never ended well for me without additional information. You want me to consider the possibility he is town? Then give me a reason to. Like I've said, even mislynch bait have just of much chance of rolling scum as anyone else.RE1031 said: wut? You have to consider every possibilities I'm sure you know about this.. saying you don't like it. Does that mean you don't? or is he too scummy for you that you can't assume he's town?Tainted said: I like this post except for the part where it assumes ironace is town.Suzune-chan said: I honestly don't know why people would say things like if I was scum I would this is just as bad as ironace's self meta imo and it doesn't really help us clear you or give you town points. Anyway iron is an easy lynch target alright but it could also be the reason why scum is avoiding them I've seen scum do it before.Honestly if I was scum I would push for iron because it is so easy. The set up is right there. The posts and tracks to blow holes in are plain as day. Which is the only thing that makes me hesitate on him and leaves me questioning my read because it seems so clear and I feel like iron is not so clear. |
Jan 9, 2018 8:30 AM
#422
vote:Fyrusking That moment when I'm totaly not confused if vote or unvote count as me voting. |
Jan 9, 2018 8:32 AM
#423
Tainted said: I'm not sure at all how you came to that conclusion. I'm asking you to give me a reason ironace is town because you apparently want me to consider the possibility he is town, but I have no reason to. If you're going to be defending ironace and shading me as scum going after mislynch bait, then I at least expect you to provide a reason as for why ironace is town, or counter my argument against him.RE1031 said: hmm. If you're scum hunting you would find the scummiest one and the least scummiest would be your town read but the way sound earlier seems the opposite. You're asking me for reasons to townread him so it's like you're finding the most towny and least towny.Tainted said: I don't want to wine myself into thinking whether someone is scum or not based on how much they're being suspected. Has never ended well for me without additional information. You want me to consider the possibility he is town? Then give me a reason to. Like I've said, even mislynch bait have just of much chance of rolling scum as anyone else.RE1031 said: wut? You have to consider every possibilities I'm sure you know about this.. saying you don't like it. Does that mean you don't? or is he too scummy for you that you can't assume he's town?Tainted said: I like this post except for the part where it assumes ironace is town.Suzune-chan said: I honestly don't know why people would say things like if I was scum I would this is just as bad as ironace's self meta imo and it doesn't really help us clear you or give you town points. Anyway iron is an easy lynch target alright but it could also be the reason why scum is avoiding them I've seen scum do it before.Honestly if I was scum I would push for iron because it is so easy. The set up is right there. The posts and tracks to blow holes in are plain as day. Which is the only thing that makes me hesitate on him and leaves me questioning my read because it seems so clear and I feel like iron is not so clear. |
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Jan 9, 2018 8:33 AM
#424
roz1roz said: Fascinating. What gives?vote:Fyrusking That moment when I'm totaly not confused if vote or unvote count as me voting. |
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Jan 9, 2018 8:34 AM
#425
RE1031 said: Well, reason other than I've been wrong plenty before :PTainted said: I'm not sure at all how you came to that conclusion. I'm asking you to give me a reason ironace is town because you apparently want me to consider the possibility he is town, but I have no reason to. If you're going to be defending ironace and shading me as scum going after mislynch bait, then I at least expect you to provide a reason as for why ironace is town, or counter my argument against him.RE1031 said: Tainted said: I don't want to wine myself into thinking whether someone is scum or not based on how much they're being suspected. Has never ended well for me without additional information. You want me to consider the possibility he is town? Then give me a reason to. Like I've said, even mislynch bait have just of much chance of rolling scum as anyone else.RE1031 said: wut? You have to consider every possibilities I'm sure you know about this.. saying you don't like it. Does that mean you don't? or is he too scummy for you that you can't assume he's town?Tainted said: I like this post except for the part where it assumes ironace is town.Suzune-chan said: I honestly don't know why people would say things like if I was scum I would this is just as bad as ironace's self meta imo and it doesn't really help us clear you or give you town points. Anyway iron is an easy lynch target alright but it could also be the reason why scum is avoiding them I've seen scum do it before.Honestly if I was scum I would push for iron because it is so easy. The set up is right there. The posts and tracks to blow holes in are plain as day. Which is the only thing that makes me hesitate on him and leaves me questioning my read because it seems so clear and I feel like iron is not so clear. Basically, I want you to counter the points I've made about ironace rather than dismiss them by calling ironace an easy target. |
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Jan 9, 2018 8:39 AM
#426
darc-star said: - I pretty much just reinforced her reasoning with quotes and the bolded texts and shading is mainly the reason why I kept my vote on her.Tainted said: So here's a crude iso on Phraze. I think I'm gonna keep my vote on her. Phraze said: my bad. had FoS on u. gonna change it. and why do u say I appear neutral? thought I was scummy with the way I question ppl. and in that same post, u shade darcs-friend. are u discouraging us giving out opinions? Also you knew it's scummy why are you doing it? Phraze said: mind telling me if I missed smthing. thought u were the one suspecting ironace alot. why ask someone else? Phraze said: Suzune-chan said: if u townread yurkin, u wouldn't want them lynched. why do u say 'for now'? if u couldn't read yurkin in the first place, its best to leave them at neutral. unless, apparently, neutral means lynch candidate? (since u say I'm neutral) how many of the current playerbase are neutral to u atm? can u vote them all? not sure if I see a good reason behind this.Phraze said: Right now this feels like town Yurkin to me. The way they are addressing issues and the kinds of points they bring up. Especially the one where they said another person's opinion is twisting thr truth.Suzune-chan said: I find this an interesting read. looks reserved. reasons would be nice@Yurkin is fine for now, I am not interested in lynching that spot right now. It has done nothing to move me one way or the other and few of the posts I rather liked. Also those questions she's just making suzune look bad. Suzune-chan said: I played enough. don't mind playing it more. devil's advocate that is.Phraze said: I started to share mine, what about you? Or do you just want to play the devil's advocate again?Suzune-chan said: ok. what opinions do u want? and what opinions do u have on us all?@Phraze Nah. I rather dislike when people play the whole field without truly giving their opinions. and I've alrdy given my opinions here. not sure how much is changed. out of Century/Suzune, I'm sure one was scum...and I'm leaning u for scum. don't agree with ur reads and u seem to shade even a townread (yurkin) Phraze said: if u rly have a problem concerning progress, why do u wanna dwell on me? u must be on to smthing, or just refuse to look for smthing. did you give reasoning with your original vote there? i feel like you kinda hopped on... suzunes reasoning, but could be wrong you searching for reasons after the vote rubs me the wrong way, but i guess you could just have been confirming/reevaluating... also dont like how you start with understanding the confusion that the word neutral caused, but later on seem confused by the continuing misunderstanding and providing quotes, while it helps others understand, isnt a requirement - a simple question as to why they thought 2 people were s/t would have sufficed there - no what the first "neutral" meant ain't reads just literally the "word" which meant not picking sides or anything which is scummy the second one however is just phraze mixing the word neutral and neutral reads and using it to make suzune look bad. - the quotes is there to highlights phraze's usage of words specifically the bolded text which is scummy. |
Jan 9, 2018 8:49 AM
#427
darc-star said: This is pretty scummy to me. I've always found that scum are way more likely to "dislike" the current wagons without providing much if any reasoning and then hop on another one.so... i need to sleep think i'll vote: riku mostly because i dont like the other wagons, but i dont like the pickiness on "lurking", and the whole "not sharing stuff in the thread" mentality is pretty scummy not confident here, but i dont have time to double check anyone right now sorry i couldnt be around as much today as id hoped =/ I'd be willing to vote here if it were not for the fact they're currently absent and probably will be during phase change, which gives them no room at all to defend themselves if they're town. |
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Jan 9, 2018 9:05 AM
#428
ironace said: Karote said: ironace said: lets see...hmmm @karote Any major reason for voting for me. Even in rvs i need my reasons >_< ironace said: even in rvs i dont like it when someone just votes and leaves without saying anything. Even the puppy vote is better than just this.....ya'll ganking up on me smh. Do know that the reason im chill about htis is because i always appear scummy -especially when im town. If i was scum, i would actually apear more passive and towny.... Also, diddnt know that about roz, since i only know of his 2 games. Why are you scared from few RVS votes on you? not really, if i was scum, i would be though. But im chill. If i get lynched, you'll know why. ''If I was scum'' Your meta means nothing to me, if you know your own meta then you know how to manipulate around it. |
Jan 9, 2018 9:08 AM
#429
ironace said: Karote said: Yeah, worded it poorly, my bad there. But interesting how ironace disappeared all of sudden when people started calling him out for his posts even though was excited before for the game to start moving. ->Well excuse me because i didnt expect to be punched in the gut by real life -_- ->I would have been here earlier if i didnt have to go somewhere today. Well alright, fair enough. A lot of people seem to suspect Phraze, do you agree with them? |
Jan 9, 2018 9:16 AM
#430
AbuHumaid said: I'm having internet problems, so don't expect much from me this phase and I won't be here for phase change, it's sad, I was excited for this game. Hopefully it'll be solved tomorrow Then I guess my vote on you is useless .. don't feel like changing it anymore, I'll come later and see what's up. |
Jan 9, 2018 9:22 AM
#431
RE1031 said: No by possibility I don't mean town read.. what I'm saying is ironace could be scum, neutral or town in my reads but I would still consider the possibility that he is neither the alignment I read him because you can't really be 100% sure of your reads that's why I find it weird when you never considered the possibility that he is town.Tainted said: I'm not sure at all how you came to that conclusion. I'm asking you to give me a reason ironace is town because you apparently want me to consider the possibility he is town, but I have no reason to. If you're going to be defending ironace and shading me as scum going after mislynch bait, then I at least expect you to provide a reason as for why ironace is town, or counter my argument against him.RE1031 said: Tainted said: I don't want to wine myself into thinking whether someone is scum or not based on how much they're being suspected. Has never ended well for me without additional information. You want me to consider the possibility he is town? Then give me a reason to. Like I've said, even mislynch bait have just of much chance of rolling scum as anyone else.RE1031 said: wut? You have to consider every possibilities I'm sure you know about this.. saying you don't like it. Does that mean you don't? or is he too scummy for you that you can't assume he's town?Tainted said: I like this post except for the part where it assumes ironace is town.Suzune-chan said: I honestly don't know why people would say things like if I was scum I would this is just as bad as ironace's self meta imo and it doesn't really help us clear you or give you town points. Anyway iron is an easy lynch target alright but it could also be the reason why scum is avoiding them I've seen scum do it before.Honestly if I was scum I would push for iron because it is so easy. The set up is right there. The posts and tracks to blow holes in are plain as day. Which is the only thing that makes me hesitate on him and leaves me questioning my read because it seems so clear and I feel like iron is not so clear. |
Jan 9, 2018 9:34 AM
#432
Tainted said: Okay I see. It sounded like you were defending him based on that possibility and sticking to it when I saw no evidence of it. Like who's avoiding ironace, and do you think they are scum.RE1031 said: No by possibility I don't mean town read.. what I'm saying is ironace could be scum, neutral or town in my reads but I would still consider the possibility that he is neither the alignment I read him because you can't really be 100% sure of your reads that's why I find it weird when you never considered the possibility that he is town.Tainted said: RE1031 said: hmm. If you're scum hunting you would find the scummiest one and the least scummiest would be your town read but the way sound earlier seems the opposite. You're asking me for reasons to townread him so it's like you're finding the most towny and least towny.Tainted said: I don't want to wine myself into thinking whether someone is scum or not based on how much they're being suspected. Has never ended well for me without additional information. You want me to consider the possibility he is town? Then give me a reason to. Like I've said, even mislynch bait have just of much chance of rolling scum as anyone else.RE1031 said: wut? You have to consider every possibilities I'm sure you know about this.. saying you don't like it. Does that mean you don't? or is he too scummy for you that you can't assume he's town?Tainted said: I like this post except for the part where it assumes ironace is town.Suzune-chan said: I honestly don't know why people would say things like if I was scum I would this is just as bad as ironace's self meta imo and it doesn't really help us clear you or give you town points. Anyway iron is an easy lynch target alright but it could also be the reason why scum is avoiding them I've seen scum do it before.Honestly if I was scum I would push for iron because it is so easy. The set up is right there. The posts and tracks to blow holes in are plain as day. Which is the only thing that makes me hesitate on him and leaves me questioning my read because it seems so clear and I feel like iron is not so clear. |
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Jan 9, 2018 9:39 AM
#433
sorry about that it should be taken care of now. |
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Jan 9, 2018 9:44 AM
#434
Vote Count 1.4 Phraze (4): Suzune-chan, Tainted, Fyrusking, RE1031 Fyrusking (3): TheConquerer, darcs-friend, roz1roz riku (3): YourTrashCan, ironace, darc-star AbuHumaid (2): riku, Karote ironace (1): Phraze roz1roz (1): AbuHumaid ScarletCelestial (1): yurkin Not voting: Century_Orion, ScarletCelestial Inverted Tally: ScarletCelestial: Riku (1), unvote (14) TheConquerer: Fyrusking (2) roz1roz: AbuHumaid (3) Tainted TheConquerer (4), Phraze (23) AbuHumaid: riku (5) Karote: ironace (6), AbuHumaid (20) yurkin: Tainted (7), ScarletCelstial (13) darcs-friend: darc-star (8), yurkin (16), Fyruskiing (28) RE1031: ironace (9), Fyrusking (17), Phraze (29) Phraze: TheConquerer (10), Karote (18), Suzune-chan (21), ironace (22) YourTrashCan: Riku (11) darc-star: ironace (12), riku (30) Fyrusking: TheConquerer (15), Phraze (24), ironace (26), Phraze (27) Suzune-chan: Phraze (19) ironace: riku (25) roz1roz: Fyrusking (31) Individual Changes in Votes: ScarletCelestial: Riku > unvote TheConquerer: Fyrusking ironace: riku Tainted: TheConquerer > Phraze darc-star: ironace > riku yurkin: Tainted > ScarletCelestial roz1roz: Fyrusking Century_Orion: RE1031: ironace > Fyrusking > Phraze Phraze: TheConquerer > Karote > Suzune-chan > ironace Karote: ironace > AbuHumaid AbuHumaid: roz1roz riku: Abuhumaid Suzune-chan: Phraze darcs-friend: darc-star > yurkin > Fyrusking YourTrashCan: riku Fyrusking: TheConquerer > Phraze > ironace > Phraze |
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Jan 9, 2018 9:50 AM
#435
RE1031 said: I haven't really looked at it xD. That was just some wild possibility I thought and throw out on the spot because suzune said to pay attention to ironace because he's an easy target that scum would most likely flock to so I said that I've also seen some scums who I avoid these people.Tainted said: Okay I see. It sounded like you were defending him based on that possibility and sticking to it when I saw no evidence of it. Like who's avoiding ironace, and do you think they are scum.RE1031 said: Tainted said: I'm not sure at all how you came to that conclusion. I'm asking you to give me a reason ironace is town because you apparently want me to consider the possibility he is town, but I have no reason to. If you're going to be defending ironace and shading me as scum going after mislynch bait, then I at least expect you to provide a reason as for why ironace is town, or counter my argument against him.RE1031 said: hmm. If you're scum hunting you would find the scummiest one and the least scummiest would be your town read but the way sound earlier seems the opposite. You're asking me for reasons to townread him so it's like you're finding the most towny and least towny.Tainted said: I don't want to wine myself into thinking whether someone is scum or not based on how much they're being suspected. Has never ended well for me without additional information. You want me to consider the possibility he is town? Then give me a reason to. Like I've said, even mislynch bait have just of much chance of rolling scum as anyone else.RE1031 said: wut? You have to consider every possibilities I'm sure you know about this.. saying you don't like it. Does that mean you don't? or is he too scummy for you that you can't assume he's town?Tainted said: I like this post except for the part where it assumes ironace is town.Suzune-chan said: I honestly don't know why people would say things like if I was scum I would this is just as bad as ironace's self meta imo and it doesn't really help us clear you or give you town points. Anyway iron is an easy lynch target alright but it could also be the reason why scum is avoiding them I've seen scum do it before.Honestly if I was scum I would push for iron because it is so easy. The set up is right there. The posts and tracks to blow holes in are plain as day. Which is the only thing that makes me hesitate on him and leaves me questioning my read because it seems so clear and I feel like iron is not so clear. Edit: it wasn't darc it was suzune |
TaintedJan 9, 2018 10:01 AM
Jan 9, 2018 9:58 AM
#436
RE1031 said: Also it wasn't ironace it was fyrusking when I said that you're pushing an easy lynch candidate around. I said that because nothing really new came up and you just said the said the same thing to me the same thing you said to fyrus on your debate earlier. Tainted said: I'm not sure at all how you came to that conclusion. I'm asking you to give me a reason ironace is town because you apparently want me to consider the possibility he is town, but I have no reason to. If you're going to be defending ironace and shading me as scum going after mislynch bait, then I at least expect you to provide a reason as for why ironace is town, or counter my argument against him.RE1031 said: Tainted said: I don't want to wine myself into thinking whether someone is scum or not based on how much they're being suspected. Has never ended well for me without additional information. You want me to consider the possibility he is town? Then give me a reason to. Like I've said, even mislynch bait have just of much chance of rolling scum as anyone else.RE1031 said: wut? You have to consider every possibilities I'm sure you know about this.. saying you don't like it. Does that mean you don't? or is he too scummy for you that you can't assume he's town?Tainted said: I like this post except for the part where it assumes ironace is town.Suzune-chan said: I honestly don't know why people would say things like if I was scum I would this is just as bad as ironace's self meta imo and it doesn't really help us clear you or give you town points. Anyway iron is an easy lynch target alright but it could also be the reason why scum is avoiding them I've seen scum do it before.Honestly if I was scum I would push for iron because it is so easy. The set up is right there. The posts and tracks to blow holes in are plain as day. Which is the only thing that makes me hesitate on him and leaves me questioning my read because it seems so clear and I feel like iron is not so clear. |
Jan 9, 2018 10:01 AM
#437
Tainted said: Yeah, I don't like repeating myself. But it seemed like you weren't seeing what I was seeing. Like his argument grew out of nothing. But now I know you were townreading him based a little meta and for his persistence (which I'll agree that town will stick to their ideas, but I just couldn't see the town motivation behind it).RE1031 said: Also it wasn't ironace it was fyrusking when I said that you're pushing an easy lynch candidate around. I said that because nothing really new came up and you just said the said the same thing to me the same thing you said to fyrus on your debate earlier. Tainted said: RE1031 said: hmm. If you're scum hunting you would find the scummiest one and the least scummiest would be your town read but the way sound earlier seems the opposite. You're asking me for reasons to townread him so it's like you're finding the most towny and least towny.Tainted said: I don't want to wine myself into thinking whether someone is scum or not based on how much they're being suspected. Has never ended well for me without additional information. You want me to consider the possibility he is town? Then give me a reason to. Like I've said, even mislynch bait have just of much chance of rolling scum as anyone else.RE1031 said: wut? You have to consider every possibilities I'm sure you know about this.. saying you don't like it. Does that mean you don't? or is he too scummy for you that you can't assume he's town?Tainted said: I like this post except for the part where it assumes ironace is town.Suzune-chan said: I honestly don't know why people would say things like if I was scum I would this is just as bad as ironace's self meta imo and it doesn't really help us clear you or give you town points. Anyway iron is an easy lynch target alright but it could also be the reason why scum is avoiding them I've seen scum do it before.Honestly if I was scum I would push for iron because it is so easy. The set up is right there. The posts and tracks to blow holes in are plain as day. Which is the only thing that makes me hesitate on him and leaves me questioning my read because it seems so clear and I feel like iron is not so clear. So I'll go with Phraze for now. |
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Jan 9, 2018 10:04 AM
#438
Jan 9, 2018 10:14 AM
#439
lol it's so bad idk why they decided to band together jokingly when they've got fos pointed at the two of them. Anyway there's not really much interaction but I read them as unaligned based on ironace's #386 |
Jan 9, 2018 10:16 AM
#440
Tainted said: actually it's #370lol it's so bad idk why they decided to band together jokingly when they've got fos pointed at the two of them. Anyway there's not really much interaction but I read them as unaligned based on ironace's #386 |
Jan 9, 2018 10:38 AM
#441
ironace said: ScarletCelestial said: riku said: ScarletCelestial said: RE1031 said: ScarletCelestial said: Well, do you think they are lurky?riku said: ScarletCelestial said: Did you just call me lurky.... wtf Phraze said: ScarletCelestial said: Phraze said: ScarletCelestial said: Phraze said: post count scale (to my memory): RE Fyrus Roz Scarlet Friendo Yurkin Abu Tainted YourTrashCan darc ironace TheConquerer Phraze riku Karote Century_Orion Suzune Fyrus still possible town/tpr lean for me. RE is RE - those debate walls are kinda a towntell for her. Conq's recent posts have been helpful (seen 1-town 1-scum games from him). ironace hasn't been weird so far, and he's always defensive. Friendo is probs town. Roz is fine so far. Karote doesn't go crazy like I usually see him do. one of Century or Suzune couid be hiding scum. Vote: Karote idm leaving the active ppl alive. and this vote has some reason compared to the other 2. Apart from Karote acting somewhat sane, why do you think Karote is scum? in one of the old games, he said he's bad at D1s and will usually pull silly moves to get by (that's usually why he's insane). this Karote doesnt seem desperate to get a lead. its not a bad reason, and better than nothing. Why are you basing your whole case on meta, when he could end up being replaced later on and there are possibly more scummy lynches in the active players? well, its not rly meta. could say this is how all players usually react when scum, since they just pretend without actually doing it, and I can confirm the behavioral pattern is smthing Karote is likely to portray compared to the others (I have no clue about). if he's replaced, I can just read the new person based off their own values on the same scale. and honestly, if we spare inactives it'll lead to a lurky game later on. scum will always NK the most townread/active player. D1s have no leads, so the pressure is best used on an inactive. maybe towards the end of the Day, we can decide to lynch an active-but-scummy player. votes can be used in more ways than just lynching. Well, I can't disagree with this reasoning other than that if Century and Suzuku don't turn up they'll be replaced anyway... Karote and riku however might be a good lynch if we don't come up with any better since they are more generally lurky. I personally believe that getting rid of the scummiest player is probably for the best, but I can see where you're coming from. It was more based on Phraze's list, because they thought you and Karote had the lowest post count other than Cent and Suzuku. As of the point that was made, all they had done was a bit of fluff and an RVS. Came back Page 6, feels pretty much all fluff again, but with a quote from the game. Saying he was being accused of lurking. I can say he isn't a lurker now, but riku isn't doing anything to help either. So they are as much use as a lurker. That's an ignorant assumption to think that my posts are useless, thus they mean I'm equal to lurking. By posting, I have at least given you one piece of information: I am watching the thread, and am informing the players I am watching. A lurker would not provide this, as they simply watch without making their presence known - thus the term. Each post I have made, has commented a little about my thoughts. I never make my thoughts clear, because that makes me a target. I guess I'll have to accept this as an answer, although I disagree with the playstyle. I'm a little uneasy, but I'll let it slide this time... I honestly dont like how easily you backed off. His argument is not strong.Infact im against his pov on activity. Talking more sure does let the scum on to you, but it also helps town. But nooooooooooooo. ironace said: Ok, im all over the place as usual. I have no town read at all. But i feel i would find out more about these people as time goes on. ->scarletcelestial ->riku ->yurkin ...i feel like im forgetting someone.... I honestly didnt like riki #365, neither did i like SC's #366. I didnt spot yurkin's reasoning for voting scarlet(anyone want to inform me would be nice) So, out of these, im going to vote:riku OK: I missed a word. "I guess I'll have to accept this as an answer, although I disagree with the playstyle. I'm a little uneasy, but I'll let it slide this time..." should have been "I guess I'll have to accept this as an answer, although I disagree with the playstyle. I'm a little uneasy, but I'll let it slide at this time..." The first suggests I'm completely disregarding it, the second suggests that I am waiting on more, or some time to look into "their hints". The latter in this case. |
Jan 9, 2018 10:39 AM
#442
yurkin said: ironace said: how in the world....?just because she/he suspects you or...? #240 is a scum post. blatant. Wut. Why do you think that my post was "blatant scum"? |
Jan 9, 2018 10:40 AM
#443
roz1roz said: ScarletCelestial said: darc-star said: @scarletcelestial #231 (teach me how to imbed links) your post is too long for quoting, lol considering the wincon for 3p is “conquer all tastes” or whatever, you think thats an exe? also, i think you mean my friend, not me for a lots of the times you mentioned “darc”, can we call them friend or something? I think that RE's case of them being executioner makes sense, but not necessarily true because I think it's pretty wrong to assume. Executioner I have seen before so I at least know the mechanic and with how his entire focus is on lynching a single player, it could suggest executioner. (Abu wasn't a very good executioner, he just quit on his Day 2 target, outed himself, then got shot.) Friend's (Darc_Star = Darc now and Darcs_Friend = Friend) case for why they are likely TPR makes sense as well. Since Executioner is a TPR role, it would fit. However, I'm not ruling out the possibility that he is actually a part of the Mafia. It just feels that with the case on him that makes him TPR, it is a bit more likely. There is also the very small chance that he might be Town, but it is really infinitesimal at present so not even worth considering. Eh... could you ignore one thing according to this whole TPR case? Where did you miss the executioner from? I couldn't understand the thing about cult with "finding people", but I can with executioner. So... anyone can ignore this thing and not tell me where tf you didn't get exec from? I can't understand what you're asking or who you are asking it too. I presume it's me? Can you try wording it a bit better, despite the whole "I am being forced to say the opposite" thing? |
Jan 9, 2018 10:45 AM
#444
Concerning people: I think I only have enough time to ISO one/two people. It's going to be Phraze and riku since they are top wagons. I've already ISOd Fyrus and there isn't any new content besides a wall that basically says "I'm not replying at this point" and "I don't know what an RVS is" despite knowledge of what a Jester is. It feels as if he is pretending to be stupid and I have no idea why someone trying to help Town would do that, unless they're trying to not be shot. |
Jan 9, 2018 11:26 AM
#445
Because I see Phraze as more of an asset, when factoring the possibility I am wrong and she is town, I think I'd rather vote fyrus. Tainted said: It is bad. Yes, it could be one of those too scummy to be scum moments, but again, where's the town motivation?lol it's so bad idk why they decided to band together jokingly when they've got fos pointed at the two of them. Anyway there's not really much interaction but I read them as unaligned based on ironace's #386 I do kind of see what you mean with post #370. But it's still a weird post and I can't follow the train of thought... ironace said: Why would you be fine with it late game? Why would early game and late game be any different? And what do you think this group is in the first place?fyrusking said: @darc-star Sure, this may not be the actual reason, it's still a bit suspicious though in my opnion, but as i said, my actual focus here, is his deliberated fear of a group being formed. Which someone from "Town" would certainly not fear I say he is the safest choice of target for the first day... lol, if the group was heaing towards the wrong direction, even scum would not fear it. And i-as town- would certainly be afraid of a group forming THIS early in the game.Late game im fine with it. |
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Jan 9, 2018 11:28 AM
#446
Jan 9, 2018 12:05 PM
#447
72 I just had a thought from this: we've been trying to outguess the mod. Probably a stupid idea. Kinda renders some of my points against Fyrus moot. RVS Con. 74 and 75 Playing along with Fyrus and questioning YTC, feels like they're trying to garner information. Neutral, since said information could be used for either alignment. 180 Asks a load of questions, also comments on Fyrus "ur style of writing gives off the 'I'm not here'". 181 suggests that Townie points are scummy, directed at RE. 188 Neutral. Question, trying to get RE to reaffirm. 189 To me this sounds like they disagree with Con, being shocked at his behaviour. 192 Reply to Darc about Townie points not being indicative. (I second what Darc says, I've played a few games there.) 197 Thinks Con "classic scum". Elaborate please? and does some self-meta but it's more neutral self-meta. 199 Questioning why YTC hasn't pushed anything. Makes sense. 202 Not worried about the suspicion on them and they are thinking about Fyrus' possible motives. 206 Questions RE about looking for TPR before the mafia. Good reasoning. Also suggests that Fyrus is a possible lynch target for them. 207 Pushing YTC for more information, following up on questions asked previously. 214 Moves Fyrus to neutral. 217 Still questioning YTC's play. 218 Starting to defend Fyrus, since they think him Town/TPR. 226 Says their motivation as to why they're questioning YTC. Also questions yurkin about her read on Phraze. 228 Starts talking about possible lurker catching. 230 Talks about her reads. Also votes Karote as a prod to question them. 234 Talks about a meta read on Karote, I don't agree that the case should be based on a meta read only. 237 Shows why they think lynching an inactive is a good idea. Although I don't agree with it, I doubt Phraze could have thought of so much so quickly. 243 Explains what pocketing is to me. Which I'm thankful for. 255 Asks Suzune about their reaction to Phraze's vote on them (which Phraze doesn't have, it's on Karote...) to gauge reaction, most likely. 295 Reacts to certain comments. Also gives thoughts on Suzune, Friend, Fyrus, Karote. I like how their progressions, it feels natural to me. 296 Questioning Karote's actions, makes sense since Phraze suspects them. 298 Don't agree that they should be voted due to a difference of opinion, but it's a personal belief. Ergo, it's more neutral than anything. 299 Asks Suzune what opinions they want from Phraze. Through my ISO, I can see that Phraze has been giving opinion, just never on its own. - Up to #300 (because I need to look at riku too and I've got less than an hour) - Townie to me - Does give thoughts, despite Suzune's accusation |
Jan 9, 2018 12:20 PM
#448
39 "Hello" 45 RVS on Abu. 63 Fluff. 65 Fluff. 67 Quotes the rules, which seems to be unneeded anyway given the context. Neutral. 258 Fluff. 281 Seemingly, they think that Suzune = TPR. Does not explain why. 285 Says the above was "mostly" a joke. Means that it wasn't a joke. Probably. 288 Fluff. 293 Fluff. 309 Calls Suzune out for hypocrisy(?) no elaboration on anything. 310 Gives... something on Suzune and Phraze. Thinks they're scum? Does not explain why. Phraze is kinda out of nowhere. 336 Calls me out for calling them a lurker. When the above makes me think them a lurker. 348 Calling out inconsistencies relating to an RVS. Wut. 365 This makes me so uneasy. They are basically calling themselves out for not giving their thoughts and that they are allowing us to know they are looking. It feels like they're using that meta to clear themselves. It's weird. My issues with them are for this post. 390 Suggests they think ironace scum. 392 Questions yurkin on them not giving thoughts on why 240 is obviously scum. Calling out someone for not giving thoughts is a little hypocritical... Summary: - Fluff and not much else - The one long post he did was weird - Scum lean |
Jan 9, 2018 12:34 PM
#449
"Tied votes will in any case result in all tied players being lynched." (Mathematics: There are an odd number of players. If I assume there is no extra kill one night, then that means if my vote is wrong, then we lose a whole Day phase, which is 24 hours of conversation. If I assume there is one of the two, then it would not harm Town any further.) It might be better that I do not vote, as it would not harm Town, as opposed to the gambit of voting which would lose 24 hours of conversation if I'm wrong or right concerning Fyrus. If someone does turn up willing to vote Fyrus or unvote Phraze, I'll be here for the rest of the phase. (I am of the belief that conversation helps Town.) |
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