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Apr 7, 2017 10:16 AM
#401
Good thinking for a newbie. |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:17 AM
#402
Qoco isnt new lol |
Apr 7, 2017 10:19 AM
#403
rly? |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:20 AM
#404
Rinto-kun said: I'll hear you out Rinto. I'm one if the few who appreciates your talents. Will you tell me how you feel about the top the lynch trains? Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. I agree the votes are bad i just dont thnk anyone one that train is scum, im more inclined to believe either reiynii or kits vote on doki is scum aligned. Not sure what to think about rinto tho. Think of me as an Observer of this game. It's not like I can change anything because nobody would even try to hear me out :D Kit/grrr/Doki |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:20 AM
#405
logic340 said: PentaFlare said: The burden is on you to show why the votes are "bad" as you say. Though I have moved my vote I disagree with your conclusion that they are bad and your reasoning of Claimed PR. I doubt that someone would counter him anyway as if he is town it just leads to outing a bunch of our roles to the mafia. So if you are going to say the vote are "bad" you most certainly have the burden of proving that or I ask you to retract your statement. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. You disagree that baseless votes forming a leading train late in the phase is bad? |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:21 AM
#406
Vote: Kit Almost caught up, don't think we could cause a new lynch and Kit has been acting rather strangely. I'll leave grrr for D3 at least. My opinion on Doki is neutral but I don't think he's bad. |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:21 AM
#407
RE1031 said: Shinichi-Kun said: RE1031 said: Scratch everything, there are now 8 vanilla townies, so Kit was right. grrr is claiming priest, and since he's not around to explain why, I guess I just have to wait. idk why u thought the extra role would be a pr XD Because I misread and misunderstand everything qq Shinichi-Kun said: RE1031 said: Shinichi-Kun said: RE1031 said: Shinichi-Kun said: RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. I agree the votes are bad i just dont thnk anyone one that train is scum, im more inclined to believe either reiynii or kits vote on doki is scum aligned. Not sure what to think about rinto tho. That's why I'm not voting anyone on that train. I'm voting Kit. I just think that the people still on that train need to step up and think critically about a vote. Question: do you believe grrr's claim? If there's any reason you do not, then why aren't you voting for him? Or do you think he was just fooling around and then decided to disappear for a good number of hours. logic340 said: yurkin said: The Zombie know who one another are but they do not have a secret club to chat in. This means that they will most likely not be voting or pushing suspicion on one another. When conversions start happening looking for tonal and behavioral changes will be key. And forgot to mention in this game the two zombies doesn't know each other, and until the cultist start to convert, currently we dont have 3 scums working together, but 3 separate ones. Trail of collaboration between scums won't exist until the cult convertion start. Therefore there won't be a flip as usual, in day1 that is. Will the zombies try to give like secret sign to each other, or the'll work separatelly? I thought about that last night, can't say if it have any real significance though. Since zombies start to convert from night 2 onwards, if i got that part right. Where does it say that the 2 original zombies know each other? Under the description it only says that new zombies will know who infected them. He claimed preist why in the world would any sane town wanna vote him lol Because it was a very unbelievable claim. Why the heck would anyone just claim that right off the bat. PRs should be hiding today. Now zombies are going to avoid him. The cultist may even target him first. My vote is for pressure, since grrr was leading two trains, but now I'm seriously considering going with it depending on how or if he follow ups. 1.its grrr lol 2.cult have no reason to convert the preist 3.zombies are gonna get thrown off the sent if hes lieing I feel like u are too focused on his claim. OOC: that being said im sad u dont post on the discord enough :( There's only reason I can think that the cult won't want to convert the priest and someone mentioned it already (forgot who sorry), and that's the priest is a way to get rid zombies, but if the priest has outed himself, then his ability to exorcise zombies is not very useful. And so the cultist may target him because he can get night information. and pls i'll just end up posting a shit ton of love live fan art >.> Like i said grrr prob claimed it as a way to lower the zombies guard and lore the them into a false safe haven. True but it would be a waste of a conversion because at some pint or another grrr will prob be lynched OOC-That why we have a chat just for picture spam :P So you're suggesting that grrr's claim is completely valid, but since he's grrr and claimed weirdly, zombies will almost certainly visit him thinking no way he's actually the priest and they'd have wasted a night and may even die. ooc - And sweet :3 Not too sure if you know what you've just gotten yourself into though...... that is one of the possibilities lol |
Apr 7, 2017 10:22 AM
#408
logic340 said: Rinto-kun said: I'll hear you out Rinto. I'm one if the few who appreciates your talents. Will you tell me how you feel about the top the lynch trains? Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. I agree the votes are bad i just dont thnk anyone one that train is scum, im more inclined to believe either reiynii or kits vote on doki is scum aligned. Not sure what to think about rinto tho. Think of me as an Observer of this game. It's not like I can change anything because nobody would even try to hear me out :D Kit/grrr/Doki I appreciate it very gladly ^_^ Thanks for remembering to poke me. |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:23 AM
#409
Rinto-kun said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. I agree the votes are bad i just dont thnk anyone one that train is scum, im more inclined to believe either reiynii or kits vote on doki is scum aligned. Not sure what to think about rinto tho. Think of me as an Observer of this game. It's not like I can change anything because nobody would even try to hear me out :D Depends on what u have to say lol |
Apr 7, 2017 10:24 AM
#410
PentaFlare said: I think with the amount of inactives I cannot call them baseless the way you are at the moment. Also the way you frame this is that those boats came after he claimed and they did not so I would like you to clarify that. Lastly I would like you to tell me why we should not go for grrr and why we should believe him or believe that he is town?logic340 said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. You disagree that baseless votes forming a leading train late in the phase is bad? |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:25 AM
#411
logic340 said: RE1031 said: Purity asked the sign thread aa answered in #19logic340 said: RE1031 said: I agree with you here RE. I need a follow up and people wanting to leave grrr ot his own devices is not sitting well with me after seeing what happened in Kitty Mafia. Doughkey said: RE1031 said: Shinichi-Kun said: RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. I agree the votes are bad i just dont thnk anyone one that train is scum, im more inclined to believe either reiynii or kits vote on doki is scum aligned. Not sure what to think about rinto tho. That's why I'm not voting anyone on that train. I'm voting Kit. I just think that the people still on that train need to step up and think critically about a vote. Question: do you believe grrr's claim? If there's any reason you do not, then why aren't you voting for him? Or do you think he was just fooling around and then decided to disappear for a good number of hours. logic340 said: yurkin said: The Zombie know who one another are but they do not have a secret club to chat in. This means that they will most likely not be voting or pushing suspicion on one another. When conversions start happening looking for tonal and behavioral changes will be key. And forgot to mention in this game the two zombies doesn't know each other, and until the cultist start to convert, currently we dont have 3 scums working together, but 3 separate ones. Trail of collaboration between scums won't exist until the cult convertion start. Therefore there won't be a flip as usual, in day1 that is. Will the zombies try to give like secret sign to each other, or the'll work separatelly? I thought about that last night, can't say if it have any real significance though. Since zombies start to convert from night 2 onwards, if i got that part right. Where does it say that the 2 original zombies know each other? Under the description it only says that new zombies will know who infected them. He claimed preist why in the world would any sane town wanna vote him lol Because it was a very unbelievable claim. Why the heck would anyone just claim that right off the bat. PRs should be hiding today. Now zombies are going to avoid him. The cultist may even target him first. My vote is for pressure, since grrr was leading two trains, but now I'm seriously considering going with it depending on how or if he follow ups. Did you read my analysis of the claim? I posted it in a response to Gerkin Yep and I'm considering that possibility. But if grrr did it to ward off zombies, then he should know that he'd be a target for the cultist. You pointed out the benefits of a townie fake claiming priest. There's plenty of benefits for scum fake claiming priest as well. People are less willing to lynch you. If you're the cultist, then zombies are less willing to visit you and infect you. If you're a zombie, then the cultist may visit you and waste one night on an impossible conversion. All I want is a follow up. Leaving work for a little while will be on mobile so Rinto mode activate for now. Yeah I'm not letting go of grrr for a while lol. Also, I quoted you a little while ago, but you said that zombies [original 2] know each other (but no secret chat). How do you know that the zombies know each other. I misread stuff so I don't know for sure but I don't see it stated anywhere that the original 2 zombies know each other. Okay thanks. PentaFlare said: RE1031 said: Doughkey said: logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: I will also disagree with this one as a little pressure on grrr in the previous game wouldn't have hurt much so I just don't see it the same way you do. Just as Purity said I can see both sides of the claim and if he was lynched today for his shenanigans I wouldn't even be mad. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? Re vote is off tbf cause that train is way beyond the need of pressure just saying. Speaking through experience, Grr doesn't do anything when under pressure. Grr doesn't care about the game, which is why he will do dumb things like claim priest D1. So if he doesn't care about if he will be lynched or not, pressure votes do nothing. Most you can get out of a lynch train on him is a claim, and well.... ~ If you want to lynch Grr, you do so to kill him. Then it'll have to be a clarification claim: why claim so early? and which priest? Either way, if he's lying, someone will know. Whether that makes him a townie fake claiming for some reason or guilty player fake claiming because that's what they do or if he's actually telling the truth, he needs to be here for that. A vote isn't going to change whether he is in the thread or not. It isn't a magic summoning horn. Voting for grrr does nothing to clarify that a ping and a question doesn't. Then you can interpret my vote as I don't believe him. And there's no harm in asking him for a follow up, since the damage has been done and if he really is priest then he should be getting us to believe him, and the only way I can see that happening is if he explains why he claimed. As Doughkey pointed out, there is the benefit of a townie fake claiming priest since it pushes zombies away from one player and possibly to the real priest. But I can't know that for sure. Also, why do you think he's town? |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:25 AM
#412
Apr 7, 2017 10:27 AM
#413
State one person you'd rather get lynched. |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:29 AM
#414
logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: I cannot speak for everyone else but I could see sane town voting they're if that felt that he was a zombie lying or a cult leader then I could see a reason for the vote there. Qoco, RE, and Rinto will have to answer that though.RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. I agree the votes are bad i just dont thnk anyone one that train is scum, im more inclined to believe either reiynii or kits vote on doki is scum aligned. Not sure what to think about rinto tho. That's why I'm not voting anyone on that train. I'm voting Kit. I just think that the people still on that train need to step up and think critically about a vote. Question: do you believe grrr's claim? If there's any reason you do not, then why aren't you voting for him? Or do you think he was just fooling around and then decided to disappear for a good number of hours. logic340 said: yurkin said: The Zombie know who one another are but they do not have a secret club to chat in. This means that they will most likely not be voting or pushing suspicion on one another. When conversions start happening looking for tonal and behavioral changes will be key. And forgot to mention in this game the two zombies doesn't know each other, and until the cultist start to convert, currently we dont have 3 scums working together, but 3 separate ones. Trail of collaboration between scums won't exist until the cult convertion start. Therefore there won't be a flip as usual, in day1 that is. Will the zombies try to give like secret sign to each other, or the'll work separatelly? I thought about that last night, can't say if it have any real significance though. Since zombies start to convert from night 2 onwards, if i got that part right. Where does it say that the 2 original zombies know each other? Under the description it only says that new zombies will know who infected them. He claimed preist why in the world would any sane town wanna vote him lol I don't think that by itself is a valid reason. What else about his play makes him untrustworthy? Meta is completely invalid because I have seen him claim day 1 truthfully. |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:30 AM
#415
Rinto-kun said: Other than herself? Of course she'd choose anyone!State one person you'd rather get lynched. Also, I am not inactive. I'm around but I just don't have anything to point out so hit me up if you guys have any question for me~ ^ ^-)/ |
Apr 7, 2017 10:30 AM
#416
logic340 said: I already said, when I was backup I didn't know who I was backup for, so the backup doesn't necessarily know what power they have :/Kit said: This doesn't feel like a normal Kit question. Honestly the majority of your posts feel off to me at this point. The backup would know they are the backup. So while their ability wouldn't be active there would still be two Priests in the game?RE1031 said: yurkin said: Grrr can't fake claim, all roles are known, and one cannot simply fake claim since it will be obvious to the real role. So yeah, grrr is the priest. The priest is immune to zombies but can still be infected, is that one of the said hidden mechanisms in the game, just assuming, but could an infected one infect an another person? And second - the priest will find the original role of the one vissiting him, so he'll see a converted to zombie town as town, and converted to cultist town as town as well, if I get it right. And yeah, good morning everyone! >.</ There is a possibility of two priests, since there are 16 players and thus either a second priest or a town roleblocker. If anything, priest is the best role to claim for a guilty player because we are less likely to lynch a claimed PR AND 1. If there is one priest in the mix, then anyone who fake claims priest is set for the game. 2. If there are two priests, then anyone who fake claims is almost set for the game because the two real priests won't know each other and the chances of both of them claiming is unlikely until late game. Of course, if we prod enough, grrr'll have to reveal which of the priests he is. So all we can do is await his follow up to the claim. But rather than him establishing which of the priests he is, I would like to hear why he decided to claim early. Because it seems like an un-PR thing to do. edit: Good night -w- edit 2: About infected people being to infect others - I actually hadn't thought about this, but it can't apply to the Priest, or at least the confirmed Priest. The priest can only visit himself. The secondary priest, which may or may not exist, doesn't appear to be immune to zombification at all. Also, converted cultists can't visit other players, since it states that they lose their original roles. So fortunately we don't need to worry about whether a cultist appears town/PR to the Priest because they can't visit him to begin with. Zombies on the other hand seem to be a pain to handle, but fortunately they spread far less quickly. Which reminds me of a question I had earlier - do infected townies/cultists fall under zombies or their original party? yurkin said: Oh, I saw that: Back ups - not included in the initial ratio, somehow i've missed it before, so there is the possibility RE mentioned about, priest x2, or a roleblocker. btw the second priest have different abillity. I probably seem different because I'm playing different. You and other people have said this in the past almost every time I play slightly differently while I'm still town. Just cause I'm not going all-out. doesn't mean i'm scum I'm not a different person. If I don't seem like the normal kit, what are you saying? You think Kit would act like this under the pressure of being scum? or are you making an off comment? you're voting for me now though so i guess you think I'm scum. I'm sorry I feel so off to you that you feel you need to vote me |
Apr 7, 2017 10:32 AM
#417
Doughkey said: I think I explained this before, the risk of lynching town (with the possibility of lynching scum) is preferable over knowing we won't lynch anyone, not even scumKit said: I think my lynching preference would be cult>zombie>town>none Why would you prefer to lynch a town over not lynching anyone? |
Apr 7, 2017 10:34 AM
#418
PentaFlare said: logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. I agree the votes are bad i just dont thnk anyone one that train is scum, im more inclined to believe either reiynii or kits vote on doki is scum aligned. Not sure what to think about rinto tho. That's why I'm not voting anyone on that train. I'm voting Kit. I just think that the people still on that train need to step up and think critically about a vote. Question: do you believe grrr's claim? If there's any reason you do not, then why aren't you voting for him? Or do you think he was just fooling around and then decided to disappear for a good number of hours. logic340 said: yurkin said: The Zombie know who one another are but they do not have a secret club to chat in. This means that they will most likely not be voting or pushing suspicion on one another. When conversions start happening looking for tonal and behavioral changes will be key. And forgot to mention in this game the two zombies doesn't know each other, and until the cultist start to convert, currently we dont have 3 scums working together, but 3 separate ones. Trail of collaboration between scums won't exist until the cult convertion start. Therefore there won't be a flip as usual, in day1 that is. Will the zombies try to give like secret sign to each other, or the'll work separatelly? I thought about that last night, can't say if it have any real significance though. Since zombies start to convert from night 2 onwards, if i got that part right. Where does it say that the 2 original zombies know each other? Under the description it only says that new zombies will know who infected them. He claimed preist why in the world would any sane town wanna vote him lol I don't think that by itself is a valid reason. What else about his play makes him untrustworthy? Meta is completely invalid because I have seen him claim day 1 truthfully. So do you think he's fake claiming as town, legit claiming as priest, or fake claiming as guilty player? He can't be more than one. |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:35 AM
#419
Doughkey said: I don't know how I feel about grrr right now. I have seen his town and scum game there isn't much difference but I think if town tries to deal with him as a whole we can get better results. I don't like policy lynching but grrr would be the closest thing to one for me at this point. logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? Re vote is off tbf cause that train is way beyond the need of pressure just saying. Speaking through experience, Grr doesn't do anything when under pressure. Grr doesn't care about the game, which is why he will do dumb things like claim priest D1. So if he doesn't care about if he will be lynched or not, pressure votes do nothing. Most you can get out of a lynch train on him is a claim, and well.... ~ If you want to lynch Grr, you do so to kill him. Shinichi-Kun said: What benefit does the town get from him beign the Priest and claiming in the way that he did? He has caused us all confusion if he isn't the Priest I doubt the real priest would come forward openly opposing his claim because it puts us in a dichotomy where one if not both will end up being lynched. If he is the Priest he's made himself useless and if we might be mislynching today then why not a useless PR?logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: CorruptedPurity said: @Astros why are you not voting? I claimed early on that I wont be participating in RVS and took a shit from Doki and shini cause of it. I explained my rationale behind it and am very open about it. You had time to think, where will your vote lie? And if you're choosing to keep it, why? I also now want to lynch someone on Grrr's train cause scum should be lurking in there. He's too easy of a lynch fodder. I disagree because i dont think the zombie would risk giving himself away by jumping on the train of a claim priest nor would the cultist because they have no reason to get the preist lynched. As for astro i think he hates day 1 votes too im not sure. 1. Believe his claim 2. Don't believe it and think about the possibilies. a. Town lying for whatever reason (we know how well this has worked out for town recently) b. Zombie lying since it's grrr it's quite possible c. Cult leader lying this is kind of optimal imo. So if someone wants to vote grrr with pressure I am all for it because I don't want people sitting around not trying to figure him out until it's just the three of us left again (we see how well that worked out). 2A is my choice, but still not gonna vote him out of the risk of him actually being preist. |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:36 AM
#420
logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I think with the amount of inactives I cannot call them baseless the way you are at the moment. Also the way you frame this is that those boats came after he claimed and they did not so I would like you to clarify that. Lastly I would like you to tell me why we should not go for grrr and why we should believe him or believe that he is town?logic340 said: PentaFlare said: The burden is on you to show why the votes are "bad" as you say. Though I have moved my vote I disagree with your conclusion that they are bad and your reasoning of Claimed PR. I doubt that someone would counter him anyway as if he is town it just leads to outing a bunch of our roles to the mafia. So if you are going to say the vote are "bad" you most certainly have the burden of proving that or I ask you to retract your statement. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. You disagree that baseless votes forming a leading train late in the phase is bad? The votes are baseless. Them being inactive and not explaining their votes doesn't add basis to the vote. It still has no basis. I'm not framing the votes as being after, you are making that up in your own mind. By not providing any reasoning for the actual votes, I instead mentioned the terrible reasoning that has been mentioned elsewhere because that is all there is to mention. Bluntly, going for grrr is stupid. There has been no evidence outside of his claim that makes him suspicious, so there is no reason to doubt someone who has truthfully claimed in the past. It is quite possible we will lynch our priest which would be horrible. |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:36 AM
#421
Okay I see me and kit getting lynched... I already claimed my role. You decide priest is not good enough and lynch me - sounds cool I respect that (I mean I don't but hey whatever : D ). But I lynched kit on day 1 last game. Then she hosted a game for you, and now you want to lynch her again on day 1? what is wrong with you : D ? |
Apr 7, 2017 10:37 AM
#422
Apr 7, 2017 10:37 AM
#423
You're the lynch train because you are not acting like normal townie kit. You have very little contribution to this point and you have been a lot fluffier than normal. I liked your first post but you haven't done anything with it from my pov we have less than 12 hours and I have no real feel on you other than you are not asking questions and being engaged the way I am used to. |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:38 AM
#424
Kit said: Now I need you to explain why the risk of lynching town is better than lynching no one?Doughkey said: I think I explained this before, the risk of lynching town (with the possibility of lynching scum) is preferable over knowing we won't lynch anyone, not even scumKit said: I think my lynching preference would be cult>zombie>town>none Why would you prefer to lynch a town over not lynching anyone? |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:39 AM
#425
RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: I cannot speak for everyone else but I could see sane town voting they're if that felt that he was a zombie lying or a cult leader then I could see a reason for the vote there. Qoco, RE, and Rinto will have to answer that though.RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. I agree the votes are bad i just dont thnk anyone one that train is scum, im more inclined to believe either reiynii or kits vote on doki is scum aligned. Not sure what to think about rinto tho. That's why I'm not voting anyone on that train. I'm voting Kit. I just think that the people still on that train need to step up and think critically about a vote. Question: do you believe grrr's claim? If there's any reason you do not, then why aren't you voting for him? Or do you think he was just fooling around and then decided to disappear for a good number of hours. logic340 said: yurkin said: The Zombie know who one another are but they do not have a secret club to chat in. This means that they will most likely not be voting or pushing suspicion on one another. When conversions start happening looking for tonal and behavioral changes will be key. And forgot to mention in this game the two zombies doesn't know each other, and until the cultist start to convert, currently we dont have 3 scums working together, but 3 separate ones. Trail of collaboration between scums won't exist until the cult convertion start. Therefore there won't be a flip as usual, in day1 that is. Will the zombies try to give like secret sign to each other, or the'll work separatelly? I thought about that last night, can't say if it have any real significance though. Since zombies start to convert from night 2 onwards, if i got that part right. Where does it say that the 2 original zombies know each other? Under the description it only says that new zombies will know who infected them. He claimed preist why in the world would any sane town wanna vote him lol I don't think that by itself is a valid reason. What else about his play makes him untrustworthy? Meta is completely invalid because I have seen him claim day 1 truthfully. So do you think he's fake claiming as town, legit claiming as priest, or fake claiming as guilty player? He can't be more than one. Of course it could be more than one. I have no proof for any possibility. As such, it could still be anything, hence not limiting it to one. What else has grrr done to invalidate his claim? You need more than speculation to pick one option, you need support from the rest of the things he has done, which doesn't exist. |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:40 AM
#426
PentaFlare said: I am not using meta as I haven't seen him claim early as scum. There is nothing that makes him trustworthty and the way that claim came out under minimal suspicions makes it look even worse in my opinion. Again if he really is the Priest then he has made himself useless for the remainder of the game. If he is VT lying about it he is helping scum to limit the pool of potential convertee's. Why would you think he is trustworthy at this point? What has he done to earn your trust?logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. I agree the votes are bad i just dont thnk anyone one that train is scum, im more inclined to believe either reiynii or kits vote on doki is scum aligned. Not sure what to think about rinto tho. That's why I'm not voting anyone on that train. I'm voting Kit. I just think that the people still on that train need to step up and think critically about a vote. Question: do you believe grrr's claim? If there's any reason you do not, then why aren't you voting for him? Or do you think he was just fooling around and then decided to disappear for a good number of hours. logic340 said: yurkin said: The Zombie know who one another are but they do not have a secret club to chat in. This means that they will most likely not be voting or pushing suspicion on one another. When conversions start happening looking for tonal and behavioral changes will be key. And forgot to mention in this game the two zombies doesn't know each other, and until the cultist start to convert, currently we dont have 3 scums working together, but 3 separate ones. Trail of collaboration between scums won't exist until the cult convertion start. Therefore there won't be a flip as usual, in day1 that is. Will the zombies try to give like secret sign to each other, or the'll work separatelly? I thought about that last night, can't say if it have any real significance though. Since zombies start to convert from night 2 onwards, if i got that part right. Where does it say that the 2 original zombies know each other? Under the description it only says that new zombies will know who infected them. He claimed preist why in the world would any sane town wanna vote him lol I don't think that by itself is a valid reason. What else about his play makes him untrustworthy? Meta is completely invalid because I have seen him claim day 1 truthfully. |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:41 AM
#427
logic340 said: Kit said: I have to ask you to clarify why it sounds more horrible to NL D1? Mislynching doesn't stop a conversion from happening and narrows the pool of players making it quicker for the zombies or cult to achieve their win condition. So if you feel it's t/t leading the lynch would you lynch for information? Try to find the actual scum? or push a no lynch if possible? Honestly in a t/t leading lynch situation I think I would take the No Lynch in this situation for multiple reasons:Shinichi-Kun said: Btw ik this is weird after all my voting posts about cp, i think no lynch might be better tho this is just my opinion cause it makes it harder for a pr to get converted with mre people alive, tho its obviously better if we could manage to lynch one of the converters roles day 1. and every town (ie a prevented mislynch thru nolynching) is a potential future scum, which could potentially be dangerous Though while I'm thinking about this, I just realized the usefulness of zombies to town- they essentially can eliminate a cult conversion for a night :Ic hm I think my lynching preference would be cult>zombie>town>none 1. It makes it harder for a PR to be converted/infected 2. Start D1 at 13-2-1 would start D2 at 12-2-2 3. We don't risk losing a PR on the only night we are assured to have them all at our disposal. 4. If we lynch the priest is severely limits our chances of success. Kit said: I don't see a problem with giving town reads because all reads will need to be reevaluated the next day anyway due to conversations. There are kind of distinct mindsets for the Zombies and Cult Leader imo so think about what they need to do to achieve their win con and I think you will see that handing out town reads isn't as detrimental as you think (so long as you constantly reevaluate them). Ok so, I'm not going to give town reads because in a conversion game it'd be dangerous if a highly town read person got converted to scum since there's three scum, i'll pick three i feel may be scum. Doki, for reasons stated, and i feel like he was intentionally trying to look like he was scum hunting, but the stuff he posted about me and cp was so useless it may as well have been fluff. Ruu, I have a bad feeling about her, and when I have a bad feeling about her this early she turns out scum... I think she seems very careful, calculated this game. I'm scared. ... actually i can't even figure out a third person because from them up most of my feelings are "im not sure" "i dont remember" or "seems town" suppose this is fine for now. time to get some sleep hopefully IN the scenario that there's two trains that I heavily believe are town then yes I'm going to try to convince people to vote someone I think is scum. I don't just pile on trains that I think are town because they're trains. re: town reads. I doesn't matter if I know I will reevaluate them, it will influence people, it will give myself a bias, and it will clue scum to who can pocket me. If you wanna give your town reads then that is your prerogative. What advantage will it bring? If I see a town read up for slaughter, THEN i'll defend them |
Apr 7, 2017 10:41 AM
#428
PentaFlare said: 90% of grrr's votes are baseless why dotn you question him about his baseless votes? Matter of fact why don't you question every baseless vote that has happened this game and not just the ones on grrr? Why is grrr so special to you right now as opposed to other players? If he were to flip scum I would come at you next ijs.logic340 said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: The burden is on you to show why the votes are "bad" as you say. Though I have moved my vote I disagree with your conclusion that they are bad and your reasoning of Claimed PR. I doubt that someone would counter him anyway as if he is town it just leads to outing a bunch of our roles to the mafia. So if you are going to say the vote are "bad" you most certainly have the burden of proving that or I ask you to retract your statement. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. You disagree that baseless votes forming a leading train late in the phase is bad? The votes are baseless. Them being inactive and not explaining their votes doesn't add basis to the vote. It still has no basis. I'm not framing the votes as being after, you are making that up in your own mind. By not providing any reasoning for the actual votes, I instead mentioned the terrible reasoning that has been mentioned elsewhere because that is all there is to mention. Bluntly, going for grrr is stupid. There has been no evidence outside of his claim that makes him suspicious, so there is no reason to doubt someone who has truthfully claimed in the past. It is quite possible we will lynch our priest which would be horrible. |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:42 AM
#429
PentaFlare said: This works both ways Penta he has not done shit to deserve your trust to this point eitehr so your defense of him is as baseless as the votes you are complaining about. RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: I cannot speak for everyone else but I could see sane town voting they're if that felt that he was a zombie lying or a cult leader then I could see a reason for the vote there. Qoco, RE, and Rinto will have to answer that though.RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. I agree the votes are bad i just dont thnk anyone one that train is scum, im more inclined to believe either reiynii or kits vote on doki is scum aligned. Not sure what to think about rinto tho. That's why I'm not voting anyone on that train. I'm voting Kit. I just think that the people still on that train need to step up and think critically about a vote. Question: do you believe grrr's claim? If there's any reason you do not, then why aren't you voting for him? Or do you think he was just fooling around and then decided to disappear for a good number of hours. logic340 said: yurkin said: The Zombie know who one another are but they do not have a secret club to chat in. This means that they will most likely not be voting or pushing suspicion on one another. When conversions start happening looking for tonal and behavioral changes will be key. And forgot to mention in this game the two zombies doesn't know each other, and until the cultist start to convert, currently we dont have 3 scums working together, but 3 separate ones. Trail of collaboration between scums won't exist until the cult convertion start. Therefore there won't be a flip as usual, in day1 that is. Will the zombies try to give like secret sign to each other, or the'll work separatelly? I thought about that last night, can't say if it have any real significance though. Since zombies start to convert from night 2 onwards, if i got that part right. Where does it say that the 2 original zombies know each other? Under the description it only says that new zombies will know who infected them. He claimed preist why in the world would any sane town wanna vote him lol I don't think that by itself is a valid reason. What else about his play makes him untrustworthy? Meta is completely invalid because I have seen him claim day 1 truthfully. So do you think he's fake claiming as town, legit claiming as priest, or fake claiming as guilty player? He can't be more than one. Of course it could be more than one. I have no proof for any possibility. As such, it could still be anything, hence not limiting it to one. What else has grrr done to invalidate his claim? 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Apr 7, 2017 10:44 AM
#430
logic340 said: oh i realized what you meant later but i didn't think it was a big enough deal to correct myself but i guess apparently it is. I had thought you mean giving reasons for my RVS, but you really mean how i said "here is my RVS" right? I did that so that I could separate "infect me daddy" (general statement to the whole thread) from my rvs vote, so ppl dont think i'm specifically talking about rinto. It annoyed me in the past when people thought my general statement in my first post had to do with my vote and it didn't, so i tried to clarify.Kit said: So since no one was talking I actually went to verify this. In actuality you have only every once announced you RVS in this manner and it was due to being a late RVS vote in TGT game post #83. So no you do not always announce your RVS votes like you did here and I find it odd along with your other behavior thus far. logic340 said: Hmm.....I like it spicy Kit Why announce your RVS like this I'm the imposter though so how does he get voted? Guess it didn't work cause 1. doki somehow still thought i was referring to my vote even tho i thought i clearly separated them and 2. now you're on my ass about it |
Apr 7, 2017 10:45 AM
#431
grrr said: Most of your train boils down to inactives being on it. I would love to hear your thoughts on the gamestate at this time. Just claiming isn't enough when we have seen fake claims from town ruining them of late. A little scum hunting a little something to give yourself some credibility would be appreciated. If not then I really don't care if you get the rope or not today as if you are the priest you made yourself useless and I'd rather lynch a useless PR than someone who could contribute and actually gain some credibility in the thread by working out the game. Okay I see me and kit getting lynched... I already claimed my role. You decide priest is not good enough and lynch me - sounds cool I respect that (I mean I don't but hey whatever : D ). But I lynched kit on day 1 last game. Then she hosted a game for you, and now you want to lynch her again on day 1? what is wrong with you : D ? |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:46 AM
#432
logic340 said: grrr said: Most of your train boils down to inactives being on it. I would love to hear your thoughts on the gamestate at this time. Just claiming isn't enough when we have seen fake claims from town ruining them of late. A little scum hunting a little something to give yourself some credibility would be appreciated. If not then I really don't care if you get the rope or not today as if you are the priest you made yourself useless and I'd rather lynch a useless PR than someone who could contribute and actually gain some credibility in the thread by working out the game. Okay I see me and kit getting lynched... I already claimed my role. You decide priest is not good enough and lynch me - sounds cool I respect that (I mean I don't but hey whatever : D ). But I lynched kit on day 1 last game. Then she hosted a game for you, and now you want to lynch her again on day 1? what is wrong with you : D ? I dont agree with you. |
Apr 7, 2017 10:46 AM
#433
Shinichi-Kun said: What? There are no night kills this game. Theoretically we can win with zero town deathsTown will have a death regardless, i was just thinking into the future of not the cultist an easier chance to convert a pr. |
Apr 7, 2017 10:49 AM
#434
logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I am not using meta as I haven't seen him claim early as scum. There is nothing that makes him trustworthty and the way that claim came out under minimal suspicions makes it look even worse in my opinion. Again if he really is the Priest then he has made himself useless for the remainder of the game. If he is VT lying about it he is helping scum to limit the pool of potential convertee's. Why would you think he is trustworthy at this point? What has he done to earn your trust?logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: I cannot speak for everyone else but I could see sane town voting they're if that felt that he was a zombie lying or a cult leader then I could see a reason for the vote there. Qoco, RE, and Rinto will have to answer that though.RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. I agree the votes are bad i just dont thnk anyone one that train is scum, im more inclined to believe either reiynii or kits vote on doki is scum aligned. Not sure what to think about rinto tho. That's why I'm not voting anyone on that train. I'm voting Kit. I just think that the people still on that train need to step up and think critically about a vote. Question: do you believe grrr's claim? If there's any reason you do not, then why aren't you voting for him? Or do you think he was just fooling around and then decided to disappear for a good number of hours. logic340 said: yurkin said: The Zombie know who one another are but they do not have a secret club to chat in. This means that they will most likely not be voting or pushing suspicion on one another. When conversions start happening looking for tonal and behavioral changes will be key. And forgot to mention in this game the two zombies doesn't know each other, and until the cultist start to convert, currently we dont have 3 scums working together, but 3 separate ones. Trail of collaboration between scums won't exist until the cult convertion start. Therefore there won't be a flip as usual, in day1 that is. Will the zombies try to give like secret sign to each other, or the'll work separatelly? I thought about that last night, can't say if it have any real significance though. Since zombies start to convert from night 2 onwards, if i got that part right. Where does it say that the 2 original zombies know each other? Under the description it only says that new zombies will know who infected them. He claimed preist why in the world would any sane town wanna vote him lol I don't think that by itself is a valid reason. What else about his play makes him untrustworthy? Meta is completely invalid because I have seen him claim day 1 truthfully. There is another side to not lynching him today - he could get converted and live off the free pass we gave him today - he is that type of guy, he would try to win, he doesn't care by what means or even if he loses .__. It's rather complicated stating who you trust because basically everyone could be bad. |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:49 AM
#435
Shinichi-Kun said: what game? cause i wasn't in a game where they were scum together. bad feeling like i had in the beginning of final fantasy, then i changed my mind, then i ended up being rightBad feeling like how ruu acted in her game with suzu? |
Apr 7, 2017 10:50 AM
#436
only one? i'm going to name two, doki or ruu |
Apr 7, 2017 10:52 AM
#437
logic340 said: Because basically grrr is the easiest to pick at and mislynch, furthermore, grrr doesn't care at all if you lynch him and his suspicions are always wrong. He is a vacant place, I don't like him and I'm kind of doubting we should keep him.PentaFlare said: 90% of grrr's votes are baseless why dotn you question him about his baseless votes? Matter of fact why don't you question every baseless vote that has happened this game and not just the ones on grrr? Why is grrr so special to you right now as opposed to other players? If he were to flip scum I would come at you next ijs.logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I think with the amount of inactives I cannot call them baseless the way you are at the moment. Also the way you frame this is that those boats came after he claimed and they did not so I would like you to clarify that. Lastly I would like you to tell me why we should not go for grrr and why we should believe him or believe that he is town?logic340 said: PentaFlare said: The burden is on you to show why the votes are "bad" as you say. Though I have moved my vote I disagree with your conclusion that they are bad and your reasoning of Claimed PR. I doubt that someone would counter him anyway as if he is town it just leads to outing a bunch of our roles to the mafia. So if you are going to say the vote are "bad" you most certainly have the burden of proving that or I ask you to retract your statement. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. You disagree that baseless votes forming a leading train late in the phase is bad? The votes are baseless. Them being inactive and not explaining their votes doesn't add basis to the vote. It still has no basis. I'm not framing the votes as being after, you are making that up in your own mind. By not providing any reasoning for the actual votes, I instead mentioned the terrible reasoning that has been mentioned elsewhere because that is all there is to mention. Bluntly, going for grrr is stupid. There has been no evidence outside of his claim that makes him suspicious, so there is no reason to doubt someone who has truthfully claimed in the past. It is quite possible we will lynch our priest which would be horrible. I gotta agree with Kit though, maybe not lynching would be the best?? |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:53 AM
#438
Kit said: See that is the thing who said we are giving up on D1? Why does NL mean giving up? It could just mean we couldn't reach a consensus? I never said you wanted a mislynch I said that mislynch is worse than a no lynch in this situation and I gave my reasoning. I hear a lot of people say we would go in to D2 with no information but you know what I can honestly say that no mislynch has ever lead to the capture of scum in the games I have played in. Cite something for me if I am wrong though?logic340 said: Kit said: Shinichi-Kun said: I'm sure this has been discussed but while I'm catching up: this sounds like a more terrible idea than it usually is because 1. more scums alive more conversions happening faster 2. we will need to carefully reexamine everyone every new day phase because of the conversions so we need to not be wasting time not lynchingBtw ik this is weird after all my voting posts about cp, i think no lynch might be better tho this is just my opinion cause it makes it harder for a pr to get converted with mre people alive, tho its obviously better if we could manage to lynch one of the converters roles day 1. and every town (ie a prevented mislynch thru nolynching) is a potential future scum, which could potentially be dangerous Though while I'm thinking about this, I just realized the usefulness of zombies to town- they essentially can eliminate a cult conversion for a night :Ic hm I think my lynching preference would be cult>zombie>town>none 1. It makes it harder for a PR to be converted/infected 2. Start D1 at 13-2-1 would start D2 at 12-2-2 3. We don't risk losing a PR on the only night we are assured to have them all at our disposal. 4. If we lynch the priest is severely limits our chances of success. Kit said: Ok so, I'm not going to give town reads because in a conversion game it'd be dangerous if a highly town read person got converted to scum since there's three scum, i'll pick three i feel may be scum. Doki, for reasons stated, and i feel like he was intentionally trying to look like he was scum hunting, but the stuff he posted about me and cp was so useless it may as well have been fluff. Ruu, I have a bad feeling about her, and when I have a bad feeling about her this early she turns out scum... I think she seems very careful, calculated this game. I'm scared. ... actually i can't even figure out a third person because from them up most of my feelings are "im not sure" "i dont remember" or "seems town" suppose this is fine for now. time to get some sleep hopefully IN the scenario that there's two trains that I heavily believe are town then yes I'm going to try to convince people to vote someone I think is scum. I don't just pile on trains that I think are town because they're trains. re: town reads. I doesn't matter if I know I will reevaluate them, it will influence people, it will give myself a bias, and it will clue scum to who can pocket me. If you wanna give your town reads then that is your prerogative. What advantage will it bring? If I see a town read up for slaughter, THEN i'll defend them In that scenario (where I have found myself countless time) lets say you cannot get anyone to move to your scum pick then what do you do? Just let town get lynched because it's...information? I am just asking people to have a plan just in case some shit. See you are closing yourself off is one of the things I don't like about you this game. It's a big part of why I am voting for you now. I have no clue what you are thinking and without telling me I cannot guess (kind of like with grrr). So I am not going to guess, if I cannot get a better feeling about you then I will be forced to lynch you because I find you the most scummy to this point. Kit said: While I was reading this I said to myself I guess that didn't work...lol then your last paragraph starts with "Guess it didn't work..." LMAO what are the chances....lollogic340 said: oh i realized what you meant later but i didn't think it was a big enough deal to correct myself but i guess apparently it is. I had thought you mean giving reasons for my RVS, but you really mean how i said "here is my RVS" right? I did that so that I could separate "infect me daddy" (general statement to the whole thread) from my rvs vote, so ppl dont think I'm specifically talking about Rinto. It annoyed me in the past when people thought my general statement in my first post had to do with my vote and it didn't, so i tried to clarify.Kit said: logic340 said: i always announce my rvs whatHmm.....I like it spicy Kit Why announce your RVS like this I'm the imposter though so how does he get voted? Guess it didn't work cause 1. doki somehow still thought i was referring to my vote even tho i thought i clearly separated them and 2. now you're on my ass about it |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:55 AM
#439
grrr said: Which is fine but unless you are going to give some reasons for disagreeing then this isn't much of a debate or discussion. logic340 said: grrr said: Okay I see me and kit getting lynched... I already claimed my role. You decide priest is not good enough and lynch me - sounds cool I respect that (I mean I don't but hey whatever : D ). But I lynched kit on day 1 last game. Then she hosted a game for you, and now you want to lynch her again on day 1? what is wrong with you : D ? I dont agree with you. |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:56 AM
#440
Kit said: Why and Why? You know I know Ruu's scum meta very well and have nailed her in many a game (the oe scum I can catch). I am not seeing it here so far (though she hasn't been around much). So what makes Ruu so scummy to you?only one? i'm going to name two, doki or ruu |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:56 AM
#441
Kit said: Why and Why? You know I know Ruu's scum meta very well and have nailed her in many a game (the oe scum I can catch). I am not seeing it here so far (though she hasn't been around much). So what makes Ruu so scummy to you?only one? i'm going to name two, doki or ruu |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:56 AM
#442
Kit said: Why and Why? You know I know Ruu's scum meta very well and have nailed her in many a game (the oe scum I can catch). I am not seeing it here so far (though she hasn't been around much). So what makes Ruu so scummy to you?only one? i'm going to name two, doki or ruu |
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Apr 7, 2017 10:56 AM
#443
logic340 said: lol well sorry for being disengaged cause i missed out on playing live during the entire first irl day. i've told you over and over, how i play depends on a lot of factors, NOT just whether i'm town or not. in fact, my behavior has never changed because of playing as scum... cause i've never played as scum. yet you use this against me in almost every game. i don't always have time to be the town leader or whatever. and i dont always feel like typing grammatically perfect posts and putting on my super-serious persona.You're the lynch train because you are not acting like normal townie kit. You have very little contribution to this point and you have been a lot fluffier than normal. I liked your first post but you haven't done anything with it from my pov we have less than 12 hours and I have no real feel on you other than you are not asking questions and being engaged the way I am used to. and i don't know what "more fluffier than normal" even means because i've been accused of being "fluffier than normal" in multiple past games now. please don't take my first 2 games ever as my end-all-be-all meta because i get more serious when i'm nervous about playing with new people |
Apr 7, 2017 10:57 AM
#444
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Apr 7, 2017 10:58 AM
#445
Kit said: Could you refer me to some posts which you find especially scummy?only one? i'm going to name two, doki or ruu |
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Apr 7, 2017 11:01 AM
#446
Kit said: I'm not taking it as an end all be all meta though...you seem quite defensive over this. I have played more games with you than anyone else I have played mafia with Kit and I usually don't feel comfortable with you until I wrestle with the idea of you being mafia or town. That means I have vibes telling me town and vibes telling me mafia. I am not getting that here just mafia vibes. Yes your behavior does change from game to game but it's never been this extreme before. Was it other players saying you were being fluffier than usual or was it me? We are almost through the first day and you suspects are and OMGUS against Doki and Ruu who has been less active than you to this point with similar internet issues plaguing her game. logic340 said: lol well sorry for being disengaged cause i missed out on playing live during the entire first irl day. i've told you over and over, how i play depends on a lot of factors, NOT just whether i'm town or not. in fact, my behavior has never changed because of playing as scum... cause i've never played as scum. yet you use this against me in almost every game. i don't always have time to be the town leader or whatever. and i dont always feel like typing grammatically perfect posts and putting on my super-serious persona.You're the lynch train because you are not acting like normal townie kit. You have very little contribution to this point and you have been a lot fluffier than normal. I liked your first post but you haven't done anything with it from my pov we have less than 12 hours and I have no real feel on you other than you are not asking questions and being engaged the way I am used to. and i don't know what "more fluffier than normal" even means because i've been accused of being "fluffier than normal" in multiple past games now. please don't take my first 2 games ever as my end-all-be-all meta because i get more serious when i'm nervous about playing with new people |
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Apr 7, 2017 11:02 AM
#447
PentaFlare said: RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: Shinichi-Kun said: I cannot speak for everyone else but I could see sane town voting they're if that felt that he was a zombie lying or a cult leader then I could see a reason for the vote there. Qoco, RE, and Rinto will have to answer that though.RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: logic340 said: PentaFlare said: I would ask the people voting if they believe the claim or not before saying that they are all fluff votes. Sure before the claim they seemed to be RVS and fluff, but since then those opinions may have changed. You cannot apply the original reason for the vote to the situation when it has changed imo. RE placed her vote after the claim and for pressure. I moved my vote but I am not really inclined to believe this claim but that doesn't automatically mean it comes from scum. I do think that grrr should face more scrutiny than last game given the outcome. logic340 said: PentaFlare said: Also, what is up with this grrr train? "Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him". logic340 said: [quote=grrr message=50252890]Good morning peeps 12 am phase change is actually pretty good for me but was distracted last night so here I am. Back reading in a moment though not much seems to have happened so far. Vote: grrr I see some people are voting me. This is unfortunate since I am the priest. /quote] aa-dono said: grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit Rinto-kun ☒ grrr logic340 ☒ Shinichi-Kun Oyasumi_Rosie ☒ yurkin Kit ☒ Doughkey Shinichi-Kun ☒ PentaFlare PentaFlare ☒ Ruu Not Voting Suzune-chan, CorruptedPurity, Astros, RE1031 Mod Note(s) @logic340 :) So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here. My vote was RVS Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious Qoco says he wants to start fires grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure Vote Count RE places vote on grrr for pressure Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen? I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful. I don't think the burden is on me to explain other people's votes. That would just spoonfeed reasoning to them. I'm saying the votes are bad, it is up to them to fix it, either by changing or making their current vote better. I agree the votes are bad i just dont thnk anyone one that train is scum, im more inclined to believe either reiynii or kits vote on doki is scum aligned. Not sure what to think about rinto tho. That's why I'm not voting anyone on that train. I'm voting Kit. I just think that the people still on that train need to step up and think critically about a vote. Question: do you believe grrr's claim? If there's any reason you do not, then why aren't you voting for him? Or do you think he was just fooling around and then decided to disappear for a good number of hours. logic340 said: yurkin said: The Zombie know who one another are but they do not have a secret club to chat in. This means that they will most likely not be voting or pushing suspicion on one another. When conversions start happening looking for tonal and behavioral changes will be key. And forgot to mention in this game the two zombies doesn't know each other, and until the cultist start to convert, currently we dont have 3 scums working together, but 3 separate ones. Trail of collaboration between scums won't exist until the cult convertion start. Therefore there won't be a flip as usual, in day1 that is. Will the zombies try to give like secret sign to each other, or the'll work separatelly? I thought about that last night, can't say if it have any real significance though. Since zombies start to convert from night 2 onwards, if i got that part right. Where does it say that the 2 original zombies know each other? Under the description it only says that new zombies will know who infected them. He claimed preist why in the world would any sane town wanna vote him lol I don't think that by itself is a valid reason. What else about his play makes him untrustworthy? Meta is completely invalid because I have seen him claim day 1 truthfully. So do you think he's fake claiming as town, legit claiming as priest, or fake claiming as guilty player? He can't be more than one. Of course it could be more than one. I have no proof for any possibility. As such, it could still be anything, hence not limiting it to one. What else has grrr done to invalidate his claim? You need more than speculation to pick one option, you need support from the rest of the things he has done, which doesn't exist. His claim itself is invalidation. The timing, the circumstance, priest would not claim under those. What benefit do you see the priest claiming under votes with basically no validation (logic's was rvs, quco's was to start fires, and Rosie's was cause kink shaming). When I say it's only one, I mean that of all three possibilities, only one is true. So which of them do you think? Or are you just comfortable labeling him as town and moving on. I for one do not believe grrr one bit. In fact, I see way more benefits to guilty party claiming priest. >Priest doesn't counterclaim because his role is basically only useful when zombies don't know who he is. As a result, grrr gets away with it. >Priest does counterclaim, making his role useless since zombies are unlikely to visit him. There's even a chance the real priest isn't believed and gets lynched. |
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Apr 7, 2017 11:03 AM
#448
Kit said: I think he is referring to the K-On game that ran counter to Kitty mafia. I know that Suzune and Ruu were both mafia in Disgaea game but I don't think that is the one he is talking about. Shinichi-Kun said: what game? cause i wasn't in a game where they were scum together. bad feeling like i had in the beginning of final fantasy, then i changed my mind, then i ended up being rightBad feeling like how ruu acted in her game with suzu? |
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Apr 7, 2017 11:04 AM
#449
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