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Feb 21, 2015 8:42 PM
#401
SakurasouBusters said: Even though im not a big fan of Slaine, i found the reunion scene he had with the princess was pretty touching. This is getting really good ^-^ Yeah so good. In a moment I feel pity for him. |
Feb 21, 2015 9:08 PM
#402
SakurasouBusters said: Even though im not a big fan of Slaine, i found the reunion scene he had with the princess was pretty touching. This is getting really good ^-^ THat lasted for ~1 second for me till I went "holy fuck the lying bastard" |
Feb 21, 2015 9:31 PM
#403
I bet Slaine feels like garbage right now after what he did to the 2 Vers princesses. :) I hope he suffers |
Feb 21, 2015 10:09 PM
#404
I personally think Slaine will orchestrate the real Princess's murder. He did mention something 'tragic' could happen. At the very least, he will attempt to do it and it will blow up in his face. And finally, Martians get a brain. More than one Kataphrakt at once against the Earthlings. What took them so long? As long as their powers complement each other they could wipe out any Earth force. Will be interesting to see how the Earth forces are going to get out of this. |
Feb 21, 2015 10:30 PM
#405
Slaine isn't telling Princess #2 about Princess #1 cuz if he did, he wouldn't be able to manipulate Princess #2 anymore. He does seem to care about #2 and is clearly feeling guilty about it but, as he said, its too late to turn back now. Slaine and Princess #2's relationship might develop into the most interesting relationship in this show yet. However, the character relationships in this show is pretty weak, the only other interesting one is Slaine and Count #2, especially due to how similar they are. I was hoping they developed Inaho and Princess #1's relationship more, with a heavy basis on political views, but there didn't seem to be enough time for that. Inaho seems to instinctively feel that his Princess has woken up, must be the Power of Love. Might also have something to do with that weird event in episode 1 of the 2nd season, where her spirit of sorts projected form his body. The Princess seems to have some level of memory loss. Why am I not fucking surprise? It's always fucking memory loss. And lastly, Slaine's most trusted lackey is obvious plotting something. I mean, just look at that smile. |
Feb 21, 2015 10:41 PM
#406
What Asseylum said : "I know these birds, i watched them with that boy." What Slaine heard : "I want to see that boy's bird." |
Feb 21, 2015 11:02 PM
#407
the princess woke up! guess she won't be too happy if she finds out what slaine's been doing the whole time lol. |
Feb 21, 2015 11:19 PM
#408
This episode above all other episodes proved 2 things: - The writers in this show constantly fucking pander to Slaine - Slaine is the biggest piece of shit, and now he knows it, and embraces it. Just in this episode alone, Slaine: - got "engaged" - got a landing castle - got an alligience of most orbital knights - started a plan to conquer earth - gave Harklight his own Kat - set plans in motion to quell knights who don't like him - had Lemrina literally throwing herself at him because she actually loves him *shit, the princess didn't even really have memories of earth anymore. She was basically set up perfectly to be Slaine's caged bird. Yet she just barely remembers seeing birds with Inaho, and Slaine flips out and throws the roses and leaves. Fucking spare me the pity party.* He is such a piece of walking scum, yet gets everything handed to him. And then when you have the scene with the princess waking up, you want viewers to be happy for him too? Like, absolutely fucking not. Slaine even says out loud: "All I wanted was to be worthy of the princess. That wont happen, but if all there is for me to gain is power, then..." and "There's no going back to the way it was now". When he's gotten all this shit handed to him, while doing nothing but selfish, underhanded tactics...he has no right to wallow in self pity. Count Marzuurk or whatever your name is...please hurry up and request a meeting with Slaine on his landing castle, only to steal Asseylum and Elelrrituo away from that asshole. |
Feb 21, 2015 11:22 PM
#409
Slaine will try or kill princess i bet, he will choke then little missy will save her and send princess to inaho but she will sacrifice herself for princess. Those marsians are dumb , why they were not using more than one katharakt before in fights i was thinking about that before. We should had tears or pity slaine at moement when he cry? no he's scumbag. |
Feb 21, 2015 11:27 PM
#410
o123o said: Jonesy974 said: This episode above all other episodes proved 2 things: - The writers in this show constantly fucking pander to Slaine - Slaine is the biggest piece of shit, and now he knows it, and embraces it. Just in this episode alone, Slaine: - got "engaged" - got a landing castle - got an alligience of most orbital knights - started a plan to conquer earth - gave Harklight his own Kat - set plans in motion to quell knights who don't like him - had Lemrina literally throwing herself at him because she actually loves him *shit, the princess didn't even really have memories of earth anymore. She was basically set up perfectly to be Slaine's caged bird. Yet she just barely remembers seeing birds with Inaho, and Slaine flips out and throws the roses and leaves. Fucking spare me the pity party.* He is such a piece of walking scum, yet gets everything handed to him. And then when you have the scene with the princess waking up, you want viewers to be happy for him too? Like, absolutely fucking not. Slaine even says out loud: "All I wanted was to be worthy of the princess. That wont happen, but if all there is for me to gain is power, then..." and "There's no going back to the way it was now". When he's gotten all this shit handed to him, while doing nothing but selfish, underhanded tactics...he has no right to wallow in self pity. Count Marzuurk or whatever your name is...please hurry up and request a meeting with Slaine on his landing castle, only to steal Asseylum and Elelrrituo away from that asshole. Slaine will become the Emperor of Mars next. you know what's funny i think that emperor knows truth , there will be revolution i guess in next season if there will be one, i think that emperor have daughters and sons that can inhert the throne. |
Feb 21, 2015 11:34 PM
#411
Darklight0303 said: ANGRY2011 said: I still like how everyone is all fussed up one way or another about the Slaine/Inaho/Asseylum situation while the far bigger event to me is still the betrayal of Lemrina. Lemrina was either going to betray Slaine or be betrayed by Slaine. At least until the princess leaves him. Then she might be able to get closer to him in earnest. I thought at first she had some ulterior motive by using Slaine, but they kind of fleshed that out over the past two episodes that she doesn't. She compared how she and him were similar, both people who were cast aside by their society. They way she developed as a character, it's more like she was thrown aside as some useless half breed trash, and then Slaine was the only one who gave her a purpose in life. To that extent, she has devoted herself and lives her life for Slaine. That's why she does whatever he wants: "oh I'll give you Aldnoah. Oh, I'll pretend to be Asseylum for you. Oh, I'll marry you as Asseylum". At the same time, I believe her marriage proposal was also out of love. So was her quote "I'm already yours". I truly to believe that Lemrina loves Slaine, but for all the reasons I just mentioned, I don't think that it's necessarily the right kind of love. She only loves him because he gave her worth, but that was enough for her. And we know the piece of shit Slaine will just toss her aside like garbage, until Asseylum leaves and he comes crawling back to Lemrina. |
Feb 21, 2015 11:57 PM
#412
i hate this slaine more and more, what a schemeing bitch he is.... |
Feb 22, 2015 12:16 AM
#413
Now I am not sure which princess will shoot Slaine in the end... I was really surprised by Lemrina this episode, talk about character development in a single episode. Score up to 5/10 :) hieuphan005 said: SoonaxUchiha02 said: Ah, once again I see through you Slaine. You pretend to want to conquer the Earth, unite the knights, create a new kingdom...but really you just want to kill Inaho, your rival for the Princess' affections, especially since she was recalling Inaho with that dreamy look on her face, "I went bird watching with him....le sigh" Slaine a jealous prick. So is Inaho, he just hides it better :) Inko and Lemrina are, as of now, the only characters in the show that I like. Ok, maybe Marito and Yuki too. |
AlexGKFeb 22, 2015 12:34 AM
Feb 22, 2015 12:33 AM
#414
I knew that Asseylum would have amnesia but she doesn't remember the people in the earth yet so my otp hurts. Anyways, its ironic to watch that while Slaine is talking to hime, the Martians and Terrans fight on the earth. |
The world shall know the truth soon. |
Feb 22, 2015 1:03 AM
#415
What I am more interested in is how the Aldnoah Drives work. Does it supplies energy and the technology, or it just simply provides the juice. Because the Deucalion when rebuilt it does not use the original's anti gravity powers. So it seems that even that Earth can salvage the drives, it would be unlikely that they can utilizes them like how the Orbital Knights did. |
Feb 22, 2015 2:22 AM
#416
SweetCoconut said: I knew that Asseylum would have amnesia but she doesn't remember the people in the earth yet so my otp hurts. Anyways, its ironic to watch that while Slaine is talking to hime, the Martians and Terrans fight on the earth. No. AseyLum DOES NOT HAVE AMNESIA. When you have trouble recalling your passwords or anything due to lack of sleep, do you ALSO call yourself as having amnesia? NO. |
Feb 22, 2015 2:39 AM
#417
The Princess is finally conscious. She's been good in remembering people despite that gruesomely traumatic incident. The name of Inaho is cancer to the ears of Slaine. Hahaha! There's no turning back now. The real war is about to begin once they shed more blood than before. |
Feb 22, 2015 4:21 AM
#418
Inaho and the lot are in some serious trouble now. I do wonder, how will the princess take Slaine's progress as a warlord... |
Feb 22, 2015 4:26 AM
#419
TheCorruptedOne said: Inaho and the lot are in some serious trouble now. I do wonder, how will the princess take Slaine's progress as a warlord... Even Slaine knows she won't thank him for it |
Feb 22, 2015 4:29 AM
#420
Slaine is dead, it's only a matter of time now. |
Feb 22, 2015 4:48 AM
#421
Inaho and the others are in a pinch! The princess is finally awake. It doesn't feel good to see Slaine hiding the truth to Lemrina and the others. I have a feeling she'll soon discover the truth. |
MagitoFeb 22, 2015 4:53 AM
Feb 22, 2015 5:46 AM
#422
slaine is a little bast*rd. and yes, inaho and his friend are screwed. They lost a lot against a single fortress and a Kataphrakt inaho already knew specificities. no way they escape 3 unknown mechas and fortresses without causalities by themselves (escape because defeat them is irrelevant at this point).maybe should have a chance if inaho used a badass hidden Kataphrakt instead of that poor academy training mecha. but no, inaho defeating 3 mechas and fortresses only with outdated earth mecha and by the power of his magical eye is called bullshit. this situation recall me pokemon, where ash believe evolution or natural power doesn't matter and friendship is enough to beat strong evolved pokemon (we know what happened, lot of humiliating losses or plot power/DEM win) |
Feb 22, 2015 5:52 AM
#423
Perhaps arrogance was what started his machinations, but I don't think I can use that word to describe Slaine at this point of the story. He knows of what he stands of lose (it was hinted that he was somewhat aware of it in the earlier episodes, but he's owned up to it now) and has resigned himself to a tragic fate. He doesn't like what he's become and realised that he's caused himself to lose any chances he's had of fully mending his relationship with Asseylum. He's reached the point where being honest wouldn't be of much help, so he continues with the lies and deceit. There's some of old kindness and humility left, but the truth is that his actions have been based on lies as far back as season 1, and they've only become worse with his involvement with Lemrina and the Martian political scene. Whatever he gains will ultimately be superficial, because he lost the one thing that would have made him truly happy many months ago. He doesn't really have an emotional support system right now- Asseylum was his pillar in that regard, and I don't think Saazbaum, Harklight and Lemrina really count- and now he's too far gone for even Asseylum to help him. This is in stark contrast to Inaho, who's always been bolstered by a caring sister and good friends, and has led a comparatively simple life. The director stated that the staff initially wanted Inaho to become obsessed with Asseylum, but they scrapped that idea because Inko and Yuki would never have let that happen to him. In short, Slaine has become less likeable as a person, but infinitely more fascinating as a character. The exact opposite happened to Inaho (more likeable, less interesting, if that makes any sense, heh), but I'm generally quite pleased with where the story's taking the two boys and the princesses. It's generally good stuff- the juxtaposition between Slaine's tumultuous life and Inaho's stable one. I wonder though, if the show's trying to send a message about the "Emotion/Intution vs Cold Logic" divide, seeing how Slaine always has something worrisome or potentially threatening to deal with, and Inaho doesn't. Speaking of Inaho, I don't think he'll escape this mess completely unscathed, either- there's been a lot of shots focusing on his bionic eye, lately... |
Feb 22, 2015 6:01 AM
#424
Feb 22, 2015 6:02 AM
#425
Lichtspiel said: Asseylum finally woke up. And she remembers Edelrittuo and Slaine, but not Inaho. And finally Slaine made his move. But what are his real plans? She does remember Inaho. Did you seriously not pay attention to the bird scene. |
Feb 22, 2015 6:06 AM
#426
Princess Asseylum can afford to smile now. Wait till she finds out what Slaine's been doing. But what is he really up to? Destruction of Vers from within?? Looks like Earth's forces are in a tight spot now. Will Inaho be able to come up with a plan? Can't wait for the next episode |
Feb 22, 2015 6:30 AM
#427
I think Slaine is just wearing a Villan suit. He is not a real villan, but it's far for being a hero. After this episode I think he finally realized that he is going to loose what he wants the most (Asseylum) because of the things that he made (for a goal that we don't know yet). I don't think he is just a maniac that is trying to kill all the terrans, I think he is planning something. At least, I hope so. If Slaine is just a psycho with no plan, this show is gonna be the most pathetic thing ever. Personally I dont see another possible route for A/Z plot. Peace without war (Asselyum's Uthopy) it's something impossible in the way things are right now. |
Feb 22, 2015 6:32 AM
#428
julyachan said: I think Slaine is just wearing a Villan suit. He is not a real villan, but it's far for being a hero. After this episode I think he finally realized that he is going to loose what he wants the most (Asseylum) because of the things that he made (for a goal that we don't know yet). I don't think he is just a maniac that is trying to kill all the terrans, I think he is planning something. At least, I hope so. If Slaine is just a psycho with no plan, this show is gonna be the most pathetic thing ever. Personally I dont see another possible route for A/Z plot. Peace without war (Asselyum's Uthopy) it's something impossible in the way things are right now. And the reason it's impossible is because of Slaine using her image to promote the war. So again villain or not he fucked up everything for her. Honestly it's a more tame and propaganda type of Euphienator only in this case it's not an accident and entirely deliberate. |
Feb 22, 2015 6:36 AM
#429
Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: I think Slaine is just wearing a Villan suit. He is not a real villan, but it's far for being a hero. After this episode I think he finally realized that he is going to loose what he wants the most (Asseylum) because of the things that he made (for a goal that we don't know yet). I don't think he is just a maniac that is trying to kill all the terrans, I think he is planning something. At least, I hope so. If Slaine is just a psycho with no plan, this show is gonna be the most pathetic thing ever. Personally I dont see another possible route for A/Z plot. Peace without war (Asselyum's Uthopy) it's something impossible in the way things are right now. And the reason it's impossible is because of Slaine using her image to promote the war. So again villain or not he fucked up everything for her. Honestly it's a more tame and propaganda type of Euphienator only in this case it's not an accident and entirely deliberate. Dont think so Darklight. Ok Slaine used her image to promote war. But even when she was awake, in earth, in the arms of god inaho, the war was going on, and peace was far from happen. |
Feb 22, 2015 6:40 AM
#430
julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: I think Slaine is just wearing a Villan suit. He is not a real villan, but it's far for being a hero. After this episode I think he finally realized that he is going to loose what he wants the most (Asseylum) because of the things that he made (for a goal that we don't know yet). I don't think he is just a maniac that is trying to kill all the terrans, I think he is planning something. At least, I hope so. If Slaine is just a psycho with no plan, this show is gonna be the most pathetic thing ever. Personally I dont see another possible route for A/Z plot. Peace without war (Asselyum's Uthopy) it's something impossible in the way things are right now. And the reason it's impossible is because of Slaine using her image to promote the war. So again villain or not he fucked up everything for her. Honestly it's a more tame and propaganda type of Euphienator only in this case it's not an accident and entirely deliberate. Dont think so Darklight. Ok Slaine used her image to promote war. But even when she was awake, in earth, in the arms of god inaho, the war was going on, and peace was far from happen. Not true. As you see in this episode. The princess' word was still with value. That value is now lost because of the fake princess. WIthout the fake princess' backing Slaine would not have even a fraction of the power he does now. He does not truly have all that many allies that will stand with him no matter what comes. Peace could have happened once Sazbaum was defeated and exposed. INstead Slaine fucked up that chance and destroyed any chance of the real princess brokering peace. The one who made this war into a true do or die conflict was Slaine. |
Darklight0303Feb 22, 2015 6:50 AM
Feb 22, 2015 6:46 AM
#431
Damn, Slaine is becoming a big problem |
Feb 22, 2015 6:51 AM
#432
Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: I think Slaine is just wearing a Villan suit. He is not a real villan, but it's far for being a hero. After this episode I think he finally realized that he is going to loose what he wants the most (Asseylum) because of the things that he made (for a goal that we don't know yet). I don't think he is just a maniac that is trying to kill all the terrans, I think he is planning something. At least, I hope so. If Slaine is just a psycho with no plan, this show is gonna be the most pathetic thing ever. Personally I dont see another possible route for A/Z plot. Peace without war (Asselyum's Uthopy) it's something impossible in the way things are right now. And the reason it's impossible is because of Slaine using her image to promote the war. So again villain or not he fucked up everything for her. Honestly it's a more tame and propaganda type of Euphienator only in this case it's not an accident and entirely deliberate. Dont think so Darklight. Ok Slaine used her image to promote war. But even when she was awake, in earth, in the arms of god inaho, the war was going on, and peace was far from happen. Not true. As you see in this episode. The princess' word was still with value. That value is now lost because of the fake princess. WIthout the fake princess' backing Slaine would not have even a fraction of the power he does now. He does not truly have all that many allies that will stand with him no matter what comes. Im not talking about what Slaine did with the fake princess. Im talking about war being inevitable, with or without Slaine being in the game. See, the Knights tried to kill the Asselyum to start war. The war would have continued even without Slaine in action. The only diference is, If he wasnt in the game Asselyum wouldnt hate him. |
Feb 22, 2015 6:54 AM
#433
julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: I think Slaine is just wearing a Villan suit. He is not a real villan, but it's far for being a hero. After this episode I think he finally realized that he is going to loose what he wants the most (Asseylum) because of the things that he made (for a goal that we don't know yet). I don't think he is just a maniac that is trying to kill all the terrans, I think he is planning something. At least, I hope so. If Slaine is just a psycho with no plan, this show is gonna be the most pathetic thing ever. Personally I dont see another possible route for A/Z plot. Peace without war (Asselyum's Uthopy) it's something impossible in the way things are right now. And the reason it's impossible is because of Slaine using her image to promote the war. So again villain or not he fucked up everything for her. Honestly it's a more tame and propaganda type of Euphienator only in this case it's not an accident and entirely deliberate. Dont think so Darklight. Ok Slaine used her image to promote war. But even when she was awake, in earth, in the arms of god inaho, the war was going on, and peace was far from happen. Not true. As you see in this episode. The princess' word was still with value. That value is now lost because of the fake princess. WIthout the fake princess' backing Slaine would not have even a fraction of the power he does now. He does not truly have all that many allies that will stand with him no matter what comes. Im not talking about what Slaine did with the fake princess. Im talking about war being inevitable, with or without Slaine being in the game. See, the Knights tried to kill the Asselyum to start war. The war would have continued even without Slaine in action. The only diference is, If he wasnt in the game Asselyum wouldnt hate him. Except it was not all of the knights that were in on the plot to assassinate Asseylum. The knights would have been split into two factions the loyalists versus the traitors. This is what you don't understand. That would have evened the playing field and even given room for brokering Peace. Instead Slaine destroyed that chance with his every action. |
Feb 22, 2015 7:01 AM
#434
Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: I think Slaine is just wearing a Villan suit. He is not a real villan, but it's far for being a hero. After this episode I think he finally realized that he is going to loose what he wants the most (Asseylum) because of the things that he made (for a goal that we don't know yet). I don't think he is just a maniac that is trying to kill all the terrans, I think he is planning something. At least, I hope so. If Slaine is just a psycho with no plan, this show is gonna be the most pathetic thing ever. Personally I dont see another possible route for A/Z plot. Peace without war (Asselyum's Uthopy) it's something impossible in the way things are right now. And the reason it's impossible is because of Slaine using her image to promote the war. So again villain or not he fucked up everything for her. Honestly it's a more tame and propaganda type of Euphienator only in this case it's not an accident and entirely deliberate. Dont think so Darklight. Ok Slaine used her image to promote war. But even when she was awake, in earth, in the arms of god inaho, the war was going on, and peace was far from happen. Not true. As you see in this episode. The princess' word was still with value. That value is now lost because of the fake princess. WIthout the fake princess' backing Slaine would not have even a fraction of the power he does now. He does not truly have all that many allies that will stand with him no matter what comes. Im not talking about what Slaine did with the fake princess. Im talking about war being inevitable, with or without Slaine being in the game. See, the Knights tried to kill the Asselyum to start war. The war would have continued even without Slaine in action. The only diference is, If he wasnt in the game Asselyum wouldnt hate him. Except it was not all of the knights that were in on the plot to assassinate Asseylum. The knights would have been split into two factions the loyalists versus the traitors. This is what you don't understand. I understand, this almost happened in the anime. But when the loyal faction was about to be criated, Sazzbaum killed him (Crutheo). lol |
Feb 22, 2015 7:07 AM
#435
Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: I think Slaine is just wearing a Villan suit. He is not a real villan, but it's far for being a hero. After this episode I think he finally realized that he is going to loose what he wants the most (Asseylum) because of the things that he made (for a goal that we don't know yet). I don't think he is just a maniac that is trying to kill all the terrans, I think he is planning something. At least, I hope so. If Slaine is just a psycho with no plan, this show is gonna be the most pathetic thing ever. Personally I dont see another possible route for A/Z plot. Peace without war (Asselyum's Uthopy) it's something impossible in the way things are right now. And the reason it's impossible is because of Slaine using her image to promote the war. So again villain or not he fucked up everything for her. Honestly it's a more tame and propaganda type of Euphienator only in this case it's not an accident and entirely deliberate. Dont think so Darklight. Ok Slaine used her image to promote war. But even when she was awake, in earth, in the arms of god inaho, the war was going on, and peace was far from happen. Not true. As you see in this episode. The princess' word was still with value. That value is now lost because of the fake princess. WIthout the fake princess' backing Slaine would not have even a fraction of the power he does now. He does not truly have all that many allies that will stand with him no matter what comes. Im not talking about what Slaine did with the fake princess. Im talking about war being inevitable, with or without Slaine being in the game. See, the Knights tried to kill the Asselyum to start war. The war would have continued even without Slaine in action. The only diference is, If he wasnt in the game Asselyum wouldnt hate him. Except it was not all of the knights that were in on the plot to assassinate Asseylum. The knights would have been split into two factions the loyalists versus the traitors. This is what you don't understand. That would have evened the playing field and even given room for brokering Peace. Instead Slaine destroyed that chance with his every action. It really goes more than that, loyalist aside. The whole Vers society was basically a powder keg, even if the conspirators was put down. Unless Earth offers very generous terms to Vers for resources, it is very unlikely that the whole thing will subside. Even if they do, with the current Vers society as it is now, all the resources would just flow to the upper class anyway. |
Feb 22, 2015 7:09 AM
#436
julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: I think Slaine is just wearing a Villan suit. He is not a real villan, but it's far for being a hero. After this episode I think he finally realized that he is going to loose what he wants the most (Asseylum) because of the things that he made (for a goal that we don't know yet). I don't think he is just a maniac that is trying to kill all the terrans, I think he is planning something. At least, I hope so. If Slaine is just a psycho with no plan, this show is gonna be the most pathetic thing ever. Personally I dont see another possible route for A/Z plot. Peace without war (Asselyum's Uthopy) it's something impossible in the way things are right now. And the reason it's impossible is because of Slaine using her image to promote the war. So again villain or not he fucked up everything for her. Honestly it's a more tame and propaganda type of Euphienator only in this case it's not an accident and entirely deliberate. Dont think so Darklight. Ok Slaine used her image to promote war. But even when she was awake, in earth, in the arms of god inaho, the war was going on, and peace was far from happen. Not true. As you see in this episode. The princess' word was still with value. That value is now lost because of the fake princess. WIthout the fake princess' backing Slaine would not have even a fraction of the power he does now. He does not truly have all that many allies that will stand with him no matter what comes. Im not talking about what Slaine did with the fake princess. Im talking about war being inevitable, with or without Slaine being in the game. See, the Knights tried to kill the Asselyum to start war. The war would have continued even without Slaine in action. The only diference is, If he wasnt in the game Asselyum wouldnt hate him. Except it was not all of the knights that were in on the plot to assassinate Asseylum. The knights would have been split into two factions the loyalists versus the traitors. This is what you don't understand. I understand, this almost happened in the anime. But when the loyal faction was about to be criated, Sazzbaum killed him (Crutheo). lol Which was also Slaine's fault. In his head at first he's all he can't trust anyone so he'll never talk. Then he starts asking cryptic questions and what if's that make no sense to anyone but Sazbaum who then realizes Cruhteo was compromised so he had to be silenced. Lets face it Sazbaum did NOT crash into Cruhteo's castle JUST to save Slaine. That was not a risk worth taking. However with Cruhteo learning the truth, he knew his plan was in danger. That also proves that he didn't have that many co conspirators, which in turn proves that peace was NOT as impossible as you suggested. |
Feb 22, 2015 7:10 AM
#437
helenobell said: Perhaps arrogance was what started his machinations, but I don't think I can use that word to describe Slaine at this point of the story. He knows of what he stands of lose (it was hinted that he was somewhat aware of it in the earlier episodes, but he's owned up to it now) and has resigned himself to a tragic fate. He doesn't like what he's become and realised that he's caused himself to lose any chances he's had of fully mending his relationship with Asseylum. He's reached the point where being honest wouldn't be of much help, so he continues with the lies and deceit. There's some of old kindness and humility left, but the truth is that his actions have been based on lies as far back as season 1, and they've only become worse with his involvement with Lemrina and the Martian political scene. Whatever he gains will ultimately be superficial, because he lost the one thing that would have made him truly happy many months ago. He doesn't really have an emotional support system right now- Asseylum was his pillar in that regard, and I don't think Saazbaum, Harklight and Lemrina really count- and now he's too far gone for even Asseylum to help him. This is in stark contrast to Inaho, who's always been bolstered by a caring sister and good friends, and has led a comparatively simple life. The director stated that the staff initially wanted Inaho to become obsessed with Asseylum, but they scrapped that idea because Inko and Yuki would never have let that happen to him. In short, Slaine has become less likeable as a person, but infinitely more fascinating as a character. The exact opposite happened to Inaho (more likeable, less interesting, if that makes any sense, heh), but I'm generally quite pleased with where the story's taking the two boys and the princesses. It's generally good stuff- the juxtaposition between Slaine's tumultuous life and Inaho's stable one. I wonder though, if the show's trying to send a message about the "Emotion/Intution vs Cold Logic" divide, seeing how Slaine always has something worrisome or potentially threatening to deal with, and Inaho doesn't. Speaking of Inaho, I don't think he'll escape this mess completely unscathed, either- there's been a lot of shots focusing on his bionic eye, lately... I suppose he is really pushing for some higher goal that is not yet revealed yet. Between his hard choices he has set in motion forces that will not stop even when he is gone. |
Feb 22, 2015 7:11 AM
#438
Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: I think Slaine is just wearing a Villan suit. He is not a real villan, but it's far for being a hero. After this episode I think he finally realized that he is going to loose what he wants the most (Asseylum) because of the things that he made (for a goal that we don't know yet). I don't think he is just a maniac that is trying to kill all the terrans, I think he is planning something. At least, I hope so. If Slaine is just a psycho with no plan, this show is gonna be the most pathetic thing ever. Personally I dont see another possible route for A/Z plot. Peace without war (Asselyum's Uthopy) it's something impossible in the way things are right now. And the reason it's impossible is because of Slaine using her image to promote the war. So again villain or not he fucked up everything for her. Honestly it's a more tame and propaganda type of Euphienator only in this case it's not an accident and entirely deliberate. Dont think so Darklight. Ok Slaine used her image to promote war. But even when she was awake, in earth, in the arms of god inaho, the war was going on, and peace was far from happen. Not true. As you see in this episode. The princess' word was still with value. That value is now lost because of the fake princess. WIthout the fake princess' backing Slaine would not have even a fraction of the power he does now. He does not truly have all that many allies that will stand with him no matter what comes. Im not talking about what Slaine did with the fake princess. Im talking about war being inevitable, with or without Slaine being in the game. See, the Knights tried to kill the Asselyum to start war. The war would have continued even without Slaine in action. The only diference is, If he wasnt in the game Asselyum wouldnt hate him. Except it was not all of the knights that were in on the plot to assassinate Asseylum. The knights would have been split into two factions the loyalists versus the traitors. This is what you don't understand. That would have evened the playing field and even given room for brokering Peace. Instead Slaine destroyed that chance with his every action. It really goes more than that, loyalist aside. The whole Vers society was basically a powder keg, even if the conspirators was put down. Unless Earth offers very generous terms to Vers for resources, it is very unlikely that the whole thing will subside. Even if they do, with the current Vers society as it is now, all the resources would just flow to the upper class anyway. Why should Earth offer anything. Sorry but the ones who thought they were better than earth were the Vers with their super Aldnoah. Share Aldnoah in exchange for resources. boom. But no Vers FRAMED earth for an assassination to start a war of conquest. the ones suing for peace and paying price should be Vers. Also you think that resources will actually go anywhere but to the upper class once Earth is conquered? Hahahahaha that's just adorably naive. The moment earth was conquered and the enemy was defeated, Slaine would be next to fall and the Knights would just abandon Mars. The commoners are not their problem. |
Feb 22, 2015 7:12 AM
#439
Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: I think Slaine is just wearing a Villan suit. He is not a real villan, but it's far for being a hero. After this episode I think he finally realized that he is going to loose what he wants the most (Asseylum) because of the things that he made (for a goal that we don't know yet). I don't think he is just a maniac that is trying to kill all the terrans, I think he is planning something. At least, I hope so. If Slaine is just a psycho with no plan, this show is gonna be the most pathetic thing ever. Personally I dont see another possible route for A/Z plot. Peace without war (Asselyum's Uthopy) it's something impossible in the way things are right now. And the reason it's impossible is because of Slaine using her image to promote the war. So again villain or not he fucked up everything for her. Honestly it's a more tame and propaganda type of Euphienator only in this case it's not an accident and entirely deliberate. Dont think so Darklight. Ok Slaine used her image to promote war. But even when she was awake, in earth, in the arms of god inaho, the war was going on, and peace was far from happen. Not true. As you see in this episode. The princess' word was still with value. That value is now lost because of the fake princess. WIthout the fake princess' backing Slaine would not have even a fraction of the power he does now. He does not truly have all that many allies that will stand with him no matter what comes. Im not talking about what Slaine did with the fake princess. Im talking about war being inevitable, with or without Slaine being in the game. See, the Knights tried to kill the Asselyum to start war. The war would have continued even without Slaine in action. The only diference is, If he wasnt in the game Asselyum wouldnt hate him. Except it was not all of the knights that were in on the plot to assassinate Asseylum. The knights would have been split into two factions the loyalists versus the traitors. This is what you don't understand. I understand, this almost happened in the anime. But when the loyal faction was about to be criated, Sazzbaum killed him (Crutheo). lol Which was also Slaine's fault. In his head at first he's all he can't trust anyone so he'll never talk. Then he starts asking cryptic questions and what if's that make no sense to anyone but Sazbaum who then realizes Cruhteo was compromised so he had to be silenced. Lets face it Sazbaum did NOT crash into Cruhteo's castle JUST to save Slaine. That was not a risk worth taking. However with Cruhteo learning the truth, he knew his plan was in danger. That also proves that he didn't have that many co conspirators, which in turn proves that peace was NOT as impossible as you suggested. Of course he can't trust anyone in the Orbital Knights, because he does not know who is who. Posing the real question straightforwardly would have been disastrous. And I don't see how its Slaines fault here. |
Feb 22, 2015 7:12 AM
#440
Viktor_Otaku said: It really goes more than that, loyalist aside. The whole Vers society was basically a powder keg, even if the conspirators was put down. Unless Earth offers very generous terms to Vers for resources, it is very unlikely that the whole thing will subside. Even if they do, with the current Vers society as it is now, all the resources would just flow to the upper class anyway. Yep, this point is interesting. Even with the earth resources, maybe Vers was about to go in an internal war, to put down monarchy. |
Feb 22, 2015 7:13 AM
#441
julyachan said: Viktor_Otaku said: It really goes more than that, loyalist aside. The whole Vers society was basically a powder keg, even if the conspirators was put down. Unless Earth offers very generous terms to Vers for resources, it is very unlikely that the whole thing will subside. Even if they do, with the current Vers society as it is now, all the resources would just flow to the upper class anyway. Yep, this point is interesting. Even with the earth resources, maybe Vers was about to go in an internal war, to put down monarchy. Then they should have done that. Without scorching Earth for their greed. Keep your mess in your own fuckin backyard. |
Feb 22, 2015 7:13 AM
#442
Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: I think Slaine is just wearing a Villan suit. He is not a real villan, but it's far for being a hero. After this episode I think he finally realized that he is going to loose what he wants the most (Asseylum) because of the things that he made (for a goal that we don't know yet). I don't think he is just a maniac that is trying to kill all the terrans, I think he is planning something. At least, I hope so. If Slaine is just a psycho with no plan, this show is gonna be the most pathetic thing ever. Personally I dont see another possible route for A/Z plot. Peace without war (Asselyum's Uthopy) it's something impossible in the way things are right now. And the reason it's impossible is because of Slaine using her image to promote the war. So again villain or not he fucked up everything for her. Honestly it's a more tame and propaganda type of Euphienator only in this case it's not an accident and entirely deliberate. Dont think so Darklight. Ok Slaine used her image to promote war. But even when she was awake, in earth, in the arms of god inaho, the war was going on, and peace was far from happen. Not true. As you see in this episode. The princess' word was still with value. That value is now lost because of the fake princess. WIthout the fake princess' backing Slaine would not have even a fraction of the power he does now. He does not truly have all that many allies that will stand with him no matter what comes. Im not talking about what Slaine did with the fake princess. Im talking about war being inevitable, with or without Slaine being in the game. See, the Knights tried to kill the Asselyum to start war. The war would have continued even without Slaine in action. The only diference is, If he wasnt in the game Asselyum wouldnt hate him. Except it was not all of the knights that were in on the plot to assassinate Asseylum. The knights would have been split into two factions the loyalists versus the traitors. This is what you don't understand. That would have evened the playing field and even given room for brokering Peace. Instead Slaine destroyed that chance with his every action. It really goes more than that, loyalist aside. The whole Vers society was basically a powder keg, even if the conspirators was put down. Unless Earth offers very generous terms to Vers for resources, it is very unlikely that the whole thing will subside. Even if they do, with the current Vers society as it is now, all the resources would just flow to the upper class anyway. Why should Earth offer anything. Sorry but the ones who thought they were better than earth were the Vers with their super Aldnoah. Share Aldnoah in exchange for resources. boom. Also you think that resources will actually go anywhere but to the upper class once Earth is conquered? Hahahahaha that's just adorably naive. The moment earth was conquered and the enemy was defeated, Slaine would be next to fall and the Knights would just abandon Mars. The commoners are not their problem. It is ridiculous how you act like you know how the story is going to progress. Going by how the story is going, Slaine is fowarding Saazbaum ideas, unless there is factual proof that he intends otherwise. Stop putting forward nonsense claims. |
Feb 22, 2015 7:14 AM
#443
Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: I think Slaine is just wearing a Villan suit. He is not a real villan, but it's far for being a hero. After this episode I think he finally realized that he is going to loose what he wants the most (Asseylum) because of the things that he made (for a goal that we don't know yet). I don't think he is just a maniac that is trying to kill all the terrans, I think he is planning something. At least, I hope so. If Slaine is just a psycho with no plan, this show is gonna be the most pathetic thing ever. Personally I dont see another possible route for A/Z plot. Peace without war (Asselyum's Uthopy) it's something impossible in the way things are right now. And the reason it's impossible is because of Slaine using her image to promote the war. So again villain or not he fucked up everything for her. Honestly it's a more tame and propaganda type of Euphienator only in this case it's not an accident and entirely deliberate. Dont think so Darklight. Ok Slaine used her image to promote war. But even when she was awake, in earth, in the arms of god inaho, the war was going on, and peace was far from happen. Not true. As you see in this episode. The princess' word was still with value. That value is now lost because of the fake princess. WIthout the fake princess' backing Slaine would not have even a fraction of the power he does now. He does not truly have all that many allies that will stand with him no matter what comes. Im not talking about what Slaine did with the fake princess. Im talking about war being inevitable, with or without Slaine being in the game. See, the Knights tried to kill the Asselyum to start war. The war would have continued even without Slaine in action. The only diference is, If he wasnt in the game Asselyum wouldnt hate him. Except it was not all of the knights that were in on the plot to assassinate Asseylum. The knights would have been split into two factions the loyalists versus the traitors. This is what you don't understand. I understand, this almost happened in the anime. But when the loyal faction was about to be criated, Sazzbaum killed him (Crutheo). lol Which was also Slaine's fault. In his head at first he's all he can't trust anyone so he'll never talk. Then he starts asking cryptic questions and what if's that make no sense to anyone but Sazbaum who then realizes Cruhteo was compromised so he had to be silenced. Lets face it Sazbaum did NOT crash into Cruhteo's castle JUST to save Slaine. That was not a risk worth taking. However with Cruhteo learning the truth, he knew his plan was in danger. That also proves that he didn't have that many co conspirators, which in turn proves that peace was NOT as impossible as you suggested. Of course he can't trust anyone in the Orbital Knights, because he does not know who is who. Posing the real question straightforwardly would have been disastrous. And I don't see how its Slaines fault here. He should not have said anything at all. There were two potential suspects and his manner of questioning REVEALED that the princess was alive to them. He should have kept his mouth shut as he had thought at the start of the torture. So it IS Slaine's fault for not being able to follow through with his own resolve. |
Feb 22, 2015 7:15 AM
#444
Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Viktor_Otaku said: It really goes more than that, loyalist aside. The whole Vers society was basically a powder keg, even if the conspirators was put down. Unless Earth offers very generous terms to Vers for resources, it is very unlikely that the whole thing will subside. Even if they do, with the current Vers society as it is now, all the resources would just flow to the upper class anyway. Yep, this point is interesting. Even with the earth resources, maybe Vers was about to go in an internal war, to put down monarchy. Then they should have done that. Without scorching Earth for their greed. Keep your mess in your own fuckin backyard. And break Asseylum's dear little heart by spilling Martian blood (hey I am just using your points here). |
Feb 22, 2015 7:15 AM
#445
Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: I think Slaine is just wearing a Villan suit. He is not a real villan, but it's far for being a hero. After this episode I think he finally realized that he is going to loose what he wants the most (Asseylum) because of the things that he made (for a goal that we don't know yet). I don't think he is just a maniac that is trying to kill all the terrans, I think he is planning something. At least, I hope so. If Slaine is just a psycho with no plan, this show is gonna be the most pathetic thing ever. Personally I dont see another possible route for A/Z plot. Peace without war (Asselyum's Uthopy) it's something impossible in the way things are right now. And the reason it's impossible is because of Slaine using her image to promote the war. So again villain or not he fucked up everything for her. Honestly it's a more tame and propaganda type of Euphienator only in this case it's not an accident and entirely deliberate. Dont think so Darklight. Ok Slaine used her image to promote war. But even when she was awake, in earth, in the arms of god inaho, the war was going on, and peace was far from happen. Not true. As you see in this episode. The princess' word was still with value. That value is now lost because of the fake princess. WIthout the fake princess' backing Slaine would not have even a fraction of the power he does now. He does not truly have all that many allies that will stand with him no matter what comes. Im not talking about what Slaine did with the fake princess. Im talking about war being inevitable, with or without Slaine being in the game. See, the Knights tried to kill the Asselyum to start war. The war would have continued even without Slaine in action. The only diference is, If he wasnt in the game Asselyum wouldnt hate him. Except it was not all of the knights that were in on the plot to assassinate Asseylum. The knights would have been split into two factions the loyalists versus the traitors. This is what you don't understand. That would have evened the playing field and even given room for brokering Peace. Instead Slaine destroyed that chance with his every action. It really goes more than that, loyalist aside. The whole Vers society was basically a powder keg, even if the conspirators was put down. Unless Earth offers very generous terms to Vers for resources, it is very unlikely that the whole thing will subside. Even if they do, with the current Vers society as it is now, all the resources would just flow to the upper class anyway. Why should Earth offer anything. Sorry but the ones who thought they were better than earth were the Vers with their super Aldnoah. Share Aldnoah in exchange for resources. boom. Also you think that resources will actually go anywhere but to the upper class once Earth is conquered? Hahahahaha that's just adorably naive. The moment earth was conquered and the enemy was defeated, Slaine would be next to fall and the Knights would just abandon Mars. The commoners are not their problem. It is ridiculous how you act like you know how the story is going to progress. Going by how the story is going, Slaine is fowarding Saazbaum ideas, unless there is factual proof that he intends otherwise. Stop putting forward nonsense claims. Slaine can forward as much bullshit as he wants. If the other knights only obey cause the Princess said so, they won't give a flying fuck about him once they have Earth and its resources. |
Feb 22, 2015 7:16 AM
#446
Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: I think Slaine is just wearing a Villan suit. He is not a real villan, but it's far for being a hero. After this episode I think he finally realized that he is going to loose what he wants the most (Asseylum) because of the things that he made (for a goal that we don't know yet). I don't think he is just a maniac that is trying to kill all the terrans, I think he is planning something. At least, I hope so. If Slaine is just a psycho with no plan, this show is gonna be the most pathetic thing ever. Personally I dont see another possible route for A/Z plot. Peace without war (Asselyum's Uthopy) it's something impossible in the way things are right now. And the reason it's impossible is because of Slaine using her image to promote the war. So again villain or not he fucked up everything for her. Honestly it's a more tame and propaganda type of Euphienator only in this case it's not an accident and entirely deliberate. Dont think so Darklight. Ok Slaine used her image to promote war. But even when she was awake, in earth, in the arms of god inaho, the war was going on, and peace was far from happen. Not true. As you see in this episode. The princess' word was still with value. That value is now lost because of the fake princess. WIthout the fake princess' backing Slaine would not have even a fraction of the power he does now. He does not truly have all that many allies that will stand with him no matter what comes. Im not talking about what Slaine did with the fake princess. Im talking about war being inevitable, with or without Slaine being in the game. See, the Knights tried to kill the Asselyum to start war. The war would have continued even without Slaine in action. The only diference is, If he wasnt in the game Asselyum wouldnt hate him. Except it was not all of the knights that were in on the plot to assassinate Asseylum. The knights would have been split into two factions the loyalists versus the traitors. This is what you don't understand. I understand, this almost happened in the anime. But when the loyal faction was about to be criated, Sazzbaum killed him (Crutheo). lol Which was also Slaine's fault. HAHAHHA your hate for Slaine is Hilarious, just sayin. I never told that peace was impossible. I told that was impossible without war. lol |
Feb 22, 2015 7:16 AM
#447
Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Viktor_Otaku said: It really goes more than that, loyalist aside. The whole Vers society was basically a powder keg, even if the conspirators was put down. Unless Earth offers very generous terms to Vers for resources, it is very unlikely that the whole thing will subside. Even if they do, with the current Vers society as it is now, all the resources would just flow to the upper class anyway. Yep, this point is interesting. Even with the earth resources, maybe Vers was about to go in an internal war, to put down monarchy. Then they should have done that. Without scorching Earth for their greed. Keep your mess in your own fuckin backyard. And break Asseylum's dear little heart by spilling Martian blood (hey I am just using your points here). They already broke her heart by starting a war using her supposed death and now her name and image. Your argument is invalid. |
Feb 22, 2015 7:16 AM
#448
Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: I think Slaine is just wearing a Villan suit. He is not a real villan, but it's far for being a hero. After this episode I think he finally realized that he is going to loose what he wants the most (Asseylum) because of the things that he made (for a goal that we don't know yet). I don't think he is just a maniac that is trying to kill all the terrans, I think he is planning something. At least, I hope so. If Slaine is just a psycho with no plan, this show is gonna be the most pathetic thing ever. Personally I dont see another possible route for A/Z plot. Peace without war (Asselyum's Uthopy) it's something impossible in the way things are right now. And the reason it's impossible is because of Slaine using her image to promote the war. So again villain or not he fucked up everything for her. Honestly it's a more tame and propaganda type of Euphienator only in this case it's not an accident and entirely deliberate. Dont think so Darklight. Ok Slaine used her image to promote war. But even when she was awake, in earth, in the arms of god inaho, the war was going on, and peace was far from happen. Not true. As you see in this episode. The princess' word was still with value. That value is now lost because of the fake princess. WIthout the fake princess' backing Slaine would not have even a fraction of the power he does now. He does not truly have all that many allies that will stand with him no matter what comes. Im not talking about what Slaine did with the fake princess. Im talking about war being inevitable, with or without Slaine being in the game. See, the Knights tried to kill the Asselyum to start war. The war would have continued even without Slaine in action. The only diference is, If he wasnt in the game Asselyum wouldnt hate him. Except it was not all of the knights that were in on the plot to assassinate Asseylum. The knights would have been split into two factions the loyalists versus the traitors. This is what you don't understand. That would have evened the playing field and even given room for brokering Peace. Instead Slaine destroyed that chance with his every action. It really goes more than that, loyalist aside. The whole Vers society was basically a powder keg, even if the conspirators was put down. Unless Earth offers very generous terms to Vers for resources, it is very unlikely that the whole thing will subside. Even if they do, with the current Vers society as it is now, all the resources would just flow to the upper class anyway. Why should Earth offer anything. Sorry but the ones who thought they were better than earth were the Vers with their super Aldnoah. Share Aldnoah in exchange for resources. boom. Also you think that resources will actually go anywhere but to the upper class once Earth is conquered? Hahahahaha that's just adorably naive. The moment earth was conquered and the enemy was defeated, Slaine would be next to fall and the Knights would just abandon Mars. The commoners are not their problem. It is ridiculous how you act like you know how the story is going to progress. Going by how the story is going, Slaine is fowarding Saazbaum ideas, unless there is factual proof that he intends otherwise. Stop putting forward nonsense claims. Slaine can forward as much bullshit as he wants. If the other knights only obey cause the Princess said so, they won't give a flying fuck about him once they have Earth and its resources. So basically you are pulling all this out of thin air. |
Feb 22, 2015 7:17 AM
#449
julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: I think Slaine is just wearing a Villan suit. He is not a real villan, but it's far for being a hero. After this episode I think he finally realized that he is going to loose what he wants the most (Asseylum) because of the things that he made (for a goal that we don't know yet). I don't think he is just a maniac that is trying to kill all the terrans, I think he is planning something. At least, I hope so. If Slaine is just a psycho with no plan, this show is gonna be the most pathetic thing ever. Personally I dont see another possible route for A/Z plot. Peace without war (Asselyum's Uthopy) it's something impossible in the way things are right now. And the reason it's impossible is because of Slaine using her image to promote the war. So again villain or not he fucked up everything for her. Honestly it's a more tame and propaganda type of Euphienator only in this case it's not an accident and entirely deliberate. Dont think so Darklight. Ok Slaine used her image to promote war. But even when she was awake, in earth, in the arms of god inaho, the war was going on, and peace was far from happen. Not true. As you see in this episode. The princess' word was still with value. That value is now lost because of the fake princess. WIthout the fake princess' backing Slaine would not have even a fraction of the power he does now. He does not truly have all that many allies that will stand with him no matter what comes. Im not talking about what Slaine did with the fake princess. Im talking about war being inevitable, with or without Slaine being in the game. See, the Knights tried to kill the Asselyum to start war. The war would have continued even without Slaine in action. The only diference is, If he wasnt in the game Asselyum wouldnt hate him. Except it was not all of the knights that were in on the plot to assassinate Asseylum. The knights would have been split into two factions the loyalists versus the traitors. This is what you don't understand. I understand, this almost happened in the anime. But when the loyal faction was about to be criated, Sazzbaum killed him (Crutheo). lol Which was also Slaine's fault. HAHAHHA your hate for Slaine is Hilarious, just sayin. I never told that peace was impossible. I told that was impossible without war. lol Which is not true. It would have taken a while but had Sazbaum not made a mess of things and started the war, things could POTENTIALLY have started mending. |
Feb 22, 2015 7:18 AM
#450
Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: Darklight0303 said: julyachan said: I think Slaine is just wearing a Villan suit. He is not a real villan, but it's far for being a hero. After this episode I think he finally realized that he is going to loose what he wants the most (Asseylum) because of the things that he made (for a goal that we don't know yet). I don't think he is just a maniac that is trying to kill all the terrans, I think he is planning something. At least, I hope so. If Slaine is just a psycho with no plan, this show is gonna be the most pathetic thing ever. Personally I dont see another possible route for A/Z plot. Peace without war (Asselyum's Uthopy) it's something impossible in the way things are right now. And the reason it's impossible is because of Slaine using her image to promote the war. So again villain or not he fucked up everything for her. Honestly it's a more tame and propaganda type of Euphienator only in this case it's not an accident and entirely deliberate. Dont think so Darklight. Ok Slaine used her image to promote war. But even when she was awake, in earth, in the arms of god inaho, the war was going on, and peace was far from happen. Not true. As you see in this episode. The princess' word was still with value. That value is now lost because of the fake princess. WIthout the fake princess' backing Slaine would not have even a fraction of the power he does now. He does not truly have all that many allies that will stand with him no matter what comes. Im not talking about what Slaine did with the fake princess. Im talking about war being inevitable, with or without Slaine being in the game. See, the Knights tried to kill the Asselyum to start war. The war would have continued even without Slaine in action. The only diference is, If he wasnt in the game Asselyum wouldnt hate him. Except it was not all of the knights that were in on the plot to assassinate Asseylum. The knights would have been split into two factions the loyalists versus the traitors. This is what you don't understand. That would have evened the playing field and even given room for brokering Peace. Instead Slaine destroyed that chance with his every action. It really goes more than that, loyalist aside. The whole Vers society was basically a powder keg, even if the conspirators was put down. Unless Earth offers very generous terms to Vers for resources, it is very unlikely that the whole thing will subside. Even if they do, with the current Vers society as it is now, all the resources would just flow to the upper class anyway. Why should Earth offer anything. Sorry but the ones who thought they were better than earth were the Vers with their super Aldnoah. Share Aldnoah in exchange for resources. boom. Also you think that resources will actually go anywhere but to the upper class once Earth is conquered? Hahahahaha that's just adorably naive. The moment earth was conquered and the enemy was defeated, Slaine would be next to fall and the Knights would just abandon Mars. The commoners are not their problem. It is ridiculous how you act like you know how the story is going to progress. Going by how the story is going, Slaine is fowarding Saazbaum ideas, unless there is factual proof that he intends otherwise. Stop putting forward nonsense claims. Slaine can forward as much bullshit as he wants. If the other knights only obey cause the Princess said so, they won't give a flying fuck about him once they have Earth and its resources. So basically you are pulling all this out of thin air. No I am using simple logic derived from what we have seen of the knights in general. Have you seen any of them who actually give a flying fuck about commoners? You haven't. Therefore the moment Earth is conquered, Slaine's power will crumble to dust as the other counts gang up on him and destroy him. |
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