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Jan 4, 2021 9:43 AM
#31
SirTristram said: yaegerist-15 said: so true, we want s3 p2 quality with still images! Colossal Titan nitendo cgi and reiner vs eren round 2 slideshow! Don't worry your wish and more will come true soon. People saying stuff like this after ep 1 fiasco probably need some huge-ass glasses. I just want to punch a hole in ur head. |
Jan 4, 2021 10:03 AM
#32
Massdrop said: nah not at all really. only long necks which i never really understood how people even pointed them outHarsha1314 said: i feel ep 3 had a better animation quality than ep 4 Episode 4 in terms of consistency was superior although episode 3 had these super fluid moments that were cool but some of it looked kinda janky. |
Jan 4, 2021 10:58 AM
#33
deg said: agreed what maybe youre seeing is consistent on-model character drawings but the animation quality alone is average or not fluid animation enough unlike their other anime Jujutsu Kaisen What do you mean by fluid animation? I don't get it are you saying the movement of the characters look stiff? I don't get it? When you are talking about the animation are you talking about the action scenes or just the animation of the character movements? I'm going to guess you are talking about the character movements because there isn't much action to begin with, if that is the case do you consider with animation to be better when it comes to character movements? Because honestly I am not having any issue at all with the animation? Only episode 2, I notice the stiff animation movements but episode 1,3 and 4 seem fine to me. I don't what the hell you guys are talking about. |
keragammingJan 4, 2021 11:02 AM
Jan 4, 2021 11:02 AM
#34
keragamming said: deg said: agreed what maybe youre seeing is consistent on-model character drawings but the animation quality alone is average or not fluid animation enough unlike their other anime Jujutsu Kaisen What do you mean by fluid animation? I don't get it are you saying the movement of the characters look stiff? I don't get it? When you are talking about the animation are you talking about the action scenes or just the animation of the character movements? yes the movement of the characters looks stiff and im talking about both character acting animation and action scenes |
Jan 4, 2021 11:02 AM
#35
deg said: What do you even mean here !! The animation is solid so far. It did looked awkward and kind of stiff in episode 2 where they used rotoscoping but other than that, it's great so faragreed what maybe youre seeing is consistent on-model character drawings but the animation quality alone is average or not fluid animation enough unlike their other anime Jujutsu Kaisen Forgot the cgi monke |
Jan 4, 2021 11:04 AM
#36
RefreshNerves said: deg said: What do you even mean here !! The animation is solid so far. It did looked awkward and kind of stiff in episode 2 where they used rotoscoping but other than that, it's great so faragreed what maybe youre seeing is consistent on-model character drawings but the animation quality alone is average or not fluid animation enough unlike their other anime Jujutsu Kaisen Forgot the cgi monke exactly what it is the movement is not fluid or smooth enough its just have solid art style or on model character drawings lower animation quality is expected on a detailed time consuming character design that the final season have animation and art style is usually a trade-off |
Jan 4, 2021 11:08 AM
#37
| Nah, the animation is consistently bad imo. |
Jan 4, 2021 11:09 AM
#38
deg said: keragamming said: deg said: agreed what maybe youre seeing is consistent on-model character drawings but the animation quality alone is average or not fluid animation enough unlike their other anime Jujutsu Kaisen What do you mean by fluid animation? I don't get it are you saying the movement of the characters look stiff? I don't get it? When you are talking about the animation are you talking about the action scenes or just the animation of the character movements? yes the movement of the characters looks stiff and im talking about both character acting animation and action scenes I'm so glad I don't notice most of these things except the obvious rotoscope, and I heard that wit studio is even worse than Mappa when it comes to character acting, well that is what the so called anime experts have said. Personally these things don't bother 99.99% of the audience watching this as I have never seen these things mention anywhere until now. @MoonDragon72 Your 1/10 vote wont stop snk final season from getting the #1 spot so keep crying, just like how your 2/10 score didn't stop season 3 part 2 being rank#5 of all time. |
keragammingJan 4, 2021 11:17 AM
Jan 4, 2021 11:13 AM
#39
keragamming said: deg said: keragamming said: deg said: agreed what maybe youre seeing is consistent on-model character drawings but the animation quality alone is average or not fluid animation enough unlike their other anime Jujutsu Kaisen What do you mean by fluid animation? I don't get it are you saying the movement of the characters look stiff? I don't get it? When you are talking about the animation are you talking about the action scenes or just the animation of the character movements? yes the movement of the characters looks stiff and im talking about both character acting animation and action scenes I'm so glad I don't notice most of these things except the obvious rotoscope, and I heard that wit studio is even worse than Mappa when it comes to character acting, well that is what the so called anime experts have said. Personally these things don't bother 99.99% of the audience watching this as I have never seen these things mention anywhere until now. like i said on the other user lower animation quality is expected on a detailed time consuming character design that the final season have animation and art style is usually a trade-off in this case you lose some animation quality in exchange for higher art style quality |
Jan 4, 2021 11:15 AM
#40
keragamming said: ina ll honesty even jjk doesnt have as much character acting. its just that it has a fight scene every other episode so u don't mind the normal scenes with no real character movementdeg said: keragamming said: deg said: agreed what maybe youre seeing is consistent on-model character drawings but the animation quality alone is average or not fluid animation enough unlike their other anime Jujutsu Kaisen What do you mean by fluid animation? I don't get it are you saying the movement of the characters look stiff? I don't get it? When you are talking about the animation are you talking about the action scenes or just the animation of the character movements? yes the movement of the characters looks stiff and im talking about both character acting animation and action scenes I'm so glad I don't notice most of these things except the obvious rotoscope, and I heard that wit studio is even worse than Mappa when it comes to character acting, well that is what the so called anime experts have said. Personally these things don't bother 99.99% of the audience watching this as I have never seen these things mention anywhere until now. @MoonDragon72 Your 1/10 vote wont stop snk final season from getting the #1 spot so keep crying. |
Jan 4, 2021 11:18 AM
#41
Harsha1314 said: keragamming said: ina ll honesty even jjk doesnt have as much character acting. its just that it has a fight scene every other episode so u don't mind the normal scenes with no real character movementdeg said: keragamming said: deg said: agreed what maybe youre seeing is consistent on-model character drawings but the animation quality alone is average or not fluid animation enough unlike their other anime Jujutsu Kaisen What do you mean by fluid animation? I don't get it are you saying the movement of the characters look stiff? I don't get it? When you are talking about the animation are you talking about the action scenes or just the animation of the character movements? yes the movement of the characters looks stiff and im talking about both character acting animation and action scenes I'm so glad I don't notice most of these things except the obvious rotoscope, and I heard that wit studio is even worse than Mappa when it comes to character acting, well that is what the so called anime experts have said. Personally these things don't bother 99.99% of the audience watching this as I have never seen these things mention anywhere until now. @MoonDragon72 Your 1/10 vote wont stop snk final season from getting the #1 spot so keep crying. Everyone here seems to think jjk is the best thing since slice bread, I personally think the animation is ok and the art is too flat for my liking. |
Jan 4, 2021 11:31 AM
#42
| Up/Down quality is common thing. they should choose wisely where is the correct time to flow the budget. |
Jan 4, 2021 11:48 AM
#43
Harsha1314 said: ina ll honesty even jjk doesnt have as much character acting. its just that it has a fight scene every other episode so u don't mind the normal scenes with no real character movement i beg to disagree examples https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/140429 https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/140425 (suppose normal scene) and more here https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=jujutsu_kaisen+character_acting |
Jan 4, 2021 12:24 PM
#44
keragamming said: deg said: keragamming said: deg said: agreed what maybe youre seeing is consistent on-model character drawings but the animation quality alone is average or not fluid animation enough unlike their other anime Jujutsu Kaisen What do you mean by fluid animation? I don't get it are you saying the movement of the characters look stiff? I don't get it? When you are talking about the animation are you talking about the action scenes or just the animation of the character movements? yes the movement of the characters looks stiff and im talking about both character acting animation and action scenes I'm so glad I don't notice most of these things except the obvious rotoscope, and I heard that wit studio is even worse than Mappa when it comes to character acting, well that is what the so called anime experts have said. Personally these things don't bother 99.99% of the audience watching this as I have never seen these things mention anywhere until now. @MoonDragon72 Your 1/10 vote wont stop snk final season from getting the #1 spot so keep crying, just like how your 2/10 score didn't stop season 3 part 2 being rank#5 of all time. You're the one who'll be crying when you realize this series is trash. There's no way that this shit will ever get to number 1. |
Deadaccount2974Jan 4, 2021 2:47 PM
Jan 4, 2021 2:13 PM
#45
Raphchannnn said: did any of you realize that there is a increase of animation quality in each episode, in my opinion episode 4 is currently the best from the previous episode, I mean episode 4 doesn't have any CG or rotoscope scenes everything looks full of cut frames and I really like the animation in episode 4 , all made without haste, this is more than made wit studio in my opinion I really hope if MAPPA keeps the quality of future episodes the same as episode 4 Also everyone here should know that Attack on Titan S1 had some embarrassing ass animation when it was airing, this was fixed through bluray ofc but the quality that most people watched was refined not the original. So this season is actually relatively great compared to that season, and im sure most of the problems people are finding will be fixed if the bluray ver comes out, so if it doesn't look good rn it'll definitely look good some other time. |
Jan 4, 2021 3:05 PM
#46
SirTristram said: a huge in-betweening issue just a few weeks ago in ep 2, let alone having a fluid animation. Thank you man, because with all the people praising ep 2 I'm beginning to doubt my sanity. To me it looked absolutely horrid. I have as many CG titans ans still shots as MAPPA is able to fit in an episode, but bad rotoscoping... Please MAPPA, be merciful (and save your money) and never do this to my poor eyes again. |
Jan 4, 2021 4:12 PM
#47
SoranoCloud said: SirTristram said: a huge in-betweening issue just a few weeks ago in ep 2, let alone having a fluid animation. Thank you man, because with all the people praising ep 2 I'm beginning to doubt my sanity. To me it looked absolutely horrid. I have as many CG titans ans still shots as MAPPA is able to fit in an episode, but bad rotoscoping... Please MAPPA, be merciful (and save your money) and never do this to my poor eyes again. I mean that's ur opinion- ep 2 was janky at times but I loved it, my least fav ep was ep 3 cause it felt abit stiff to me for dialogue scenes |
Jan 4, 2021 6:48 PM
#48
| And the comment from MoonDragon72 showed exactly the mentality of people spamming 1/10 to the series. It's not people who think it's "unfair" to give a early score, it's just people that have an unreasonable hate towards SNK and don't stand the idea of one of the entries being in a high position. And I can garantee people like him are the sole reason why the score dropped 0.04 points just now. Also what's up with the rotoscoping overreaction? I usually understand when we have a reasonable negative reaction towards something flawed, which the rotoscope in ep. 2 indeed was, but people are reacting in a way as if this was worst than Nanatsu S3 scenes. It's just incomprehensible to me why you think this is something on that level. Rewatching this episode only made me more confident that those scenes are at least decently made, which would be vastly superior of what those comments are suggesting this scene was. |
BetterTasteJan 5, 2021 3:56 AM
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Jan 4, 2021 6:58 PM
#49
| Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, it even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite its flaws. MAPPA delivers a slightly worse than decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. |
ForwardMoverJan 4, 2021 7:12 PM
Jan 4, 2021 7:12 PM
#50
crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. |
Jan 4, 2021 7:18 PM
#51
deg said: yeah 2 of them are literally from their highest worked on and highest budgeted episodeHarsha1314 said: ina ll honesty even jjk doesnt have as much character acting. its just that it has a fight scene every other episode so u don't mind the normal scenes with no real character movement i beg to disagree examples https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/140429 https://www.sakugabooru.com/post/show/140425 (suppose normal scene) and more here https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=jujutsu_kaisen+character_acting |
Jan 4, 2021 7:19 PM
#52
SoranoCloud said: SirTristram said: a huge in-betweening issue just a few weeks ago in ep 2, let alone having a fluid animation. Thank you man, because with all the people praising ep 2 I'm beginning to doubt my sanity. To me it looked absolutely horrid. I have as many CG titans ans still shots as MAPPA is able to fit in an episode, but bad rotoscoping... Please MAPPA, be merciful (and save your money) and never do this to my poor eyes again. No it doesn‘t make sense for me either. Why put effort in half-assed rotoscoping scenes where it isn‘t even necessary? It‘s just unfinished work like that, if they wanted to do it at least they should’ve done it right. It would be better to put this work into rotoscoping 2D Titans where it makes sense to implement this animation technique because of complex movements smh. |
Jan 4, 2021 7:20 PM
#53
Krugerman said: also becuase they worked on it for like 3 long years and nearly all their talent budget and effort went to it for almost 99.99 percentcrypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. |
Jan 4, 2021 7:21 PM
#54
crypt0l0gy said: also do watch inuyashiki by mappa.Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, it even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite its flaws. MAPPA delivers a slightly worse than decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. |
Jan 4, 2021 7:23 PM
#55
Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: also do watch inuyashiki by mappa.Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, it even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite its flaws. MAPPA delivers a slightly worse than decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. Rly made your point with this one /s |
Jan 4, 2021 7:24 PM
#56
Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Harsha1314 said: Krugerman said: also becuase they worked on it for like 3 long years and nearly all their talent budget and effort went to it for almost 99.99 percentcrypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Your point with this statement is? |
Jan 4, 2021 7:26 PM
#57
crypt0l0gy said: no im saying wit would've nailed it with that much time and money if they were prod community. just saying no mappa's adaptation isn't anywhere as worse as you described it to be in which case s3 pt 1 was a nightmare to meKrugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Harsha1314 said: Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Your point with this statement is? |
Jan 4, 2021 7:27 PM
#58
Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Overall meaning what? Fluidity, Movement, what do you mean? I mean how can you give a comparison without specifically mentioning the advantages other than just the term “animation“? Art Style is also an integrated part of animation. Also MAPPAs art for Zeke & Reiner is much more refined than WITs. As far as I see these are nothing but superficial statements. You can hate on either one but at least provide some substance in your arguments ffs. |
ForwardMoverJan 4, 2021 7:39 PM
Jan 4, 2021 7:35 PM
#59
Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: no im saying wit would've nailed it with that much time and money if they were prod community. just saying no mappa's adaptation isn't anywhere as worse as you described it to be in which case s3 pt 1 was a nightmare to meKrugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Harsha1314 said: Krugerman said: also becuase they worked on it for like 3 long years and nearly all their talent budget and effort went to it for almost 99.99 percentcrypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Your point with this statement is? Bro I dunno what you‘re smoking or we must have watched two separate shows. Levi vs Kenny Scene? Mikasa vs Kenny‘s Team? Historia vs Rod Reiss? The scouts on top of the wall? Eren‘s Hardening scenes? Flashback to Grisha’s Titan? Background Art for the cave? The gorgeous ED? Teaser with Berthold, Reiner & Zeke with contains the most polished art of the armored titan to this day? Must be hard to have endured this nightmare. |
Jan 4, 2021 7:36 PM
#60
crypt0l0gy said: Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Overall meaning what? Fluidity, Movement, what do you mean? I mean how can you give a comparison without specifically mentioning the advantages other than just the term “animation“? Art Style is also an integrated part of animation. animation as in movement( sakuga)- MAPPA has had better animations and connections to freelancers compared to WIT. Their action and character acting is better compared to WIT too. For example JJk, GOH, dororo( although it was abit inconsistent in second half- it had rly good sakugas). Zombieland saga has rly good character acting, jjk, garo and goh has amazing action animation, dororo has amazing sword fighting animation and they have alot of connections to freelancers like i said, JJk had so many freelancers like tanaka, watanabe, ishida, fujimototo and many others, Kakegurui also had tanaka, garo and goh had more or less similiar lvls of freelancers, dororo had also alot, dorohedoro- despite being a Cg anime had Gosei oda- a rly good animation to wrok on it. AOT has also Kameda for trailer and op and possibly even in upcoming acion scenes. |
Jan 4, 2021 7:44 PM
#61
crypt0l0gy said: Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Harsha1314 said: Krugerman said: also becuase they worked on it for like 3 long years and nearly all their talent budget and effort went to it for almost 99.99 percentcrypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Your point with this statement is? Bro I dunno what you‘re smoking or we must have watched two separate shows. Levi vs Kenny Scene? Mikasa vs Kenny‘s Team? Historia vs Rod Reiss? The scouts on top of the wall? Eren‘s Hardening scenes? Flashback to Grisha’s Titan? Background Art for the cave? The gorgeous ED? Teaser with Berthold, Reiner & Zeke with contains the most polished art of the armored titan to this day? Must be hard to have endured this nightmare. Levi vs kenny, historia vs rod reiss and mikasa va kenny;s squad were all obviously amazing and by Imai, aeren's hardening scene was good but nothing special, like I said WIT had better art but MAPPA has animations that I think are better |
Jan 4, 2021 7:46 PM
#62
crypt0l0gy said: yeah but they literally added all those fucking fights and bloody destroyed the entire characterization of mikasa. like they made her into a fkin 1 d simp for eren whereas in the manga they explored so much more about her! why her love for eren stands strong. why she feels like a motherly figure for erne. and even levi's characterization, well most of it is lost, like all the traits which show his human side and what you can see in him to look upto and also why u really shouldn't look up to him is all gone! the uprising arc in the manga was like the best one ok. even better than shiganshina retireval! compared to that i think this is a great adaptation which adds a lot more from the manga!Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Harsha1314 said: Krugerman said: also becuase they worked on it for like 3 long years and nearly all their talent budget and effort went to it for almost 99.99 percentcrypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Your point with this statement is? Bro I dunno what you‘re smoking or we must have watched two separate shows. Levi vs Kenny Scene? Mikasa vs Kenny‘s Team? Historia vs Rod Reiss? The scouts on top of the wall? Eren‘s Hardening scenes? Flashback to Grisha’s Titan? Background Art for the cave? The gorgeous ED? Teaser with Berthold, Reiner & Zeke with contains the most polished art of the armored titan to this day? Must be hard to have endured this nightmare. |
Jan 4, 2021 7:48 PM
#63
Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Overall meaning what? Fluidity, Movement, what do you mean? I mean how can you give a comparison without specifically mentioning the advantages other than just the term “animation“? Art Style is also an integrated part of animation. animation as in movement( sakuga)- MAPPA has had better animations and connections to freelancers compared to WIT. Their action and character acting is better compared to WIT too. For example JJk, GOH, dororo( although it was abit inconsistent in second half- it had rly good sakugas). Zombieland saga has rly good character acting, jjk, garo and goh has amazing action animation, dororo has amazing sword fighting animation and they have alot of connections to freelancers like i said, JJk had so many freelancers like tanaka, watanabe, ishida, fujimototo and many others, Kakegurui also had tanaka, garo and goh had more or less similiar lvls of freelancers, dororo had also alot, dorohedoro- despite being a Cg anime had Gosei oda- a rly good animation to wrok on it. AOT has also Kameda for trailer and op and possibly even in upcoming acion scenes. At which point did we have Sakuga Scenes in Season 4? Their work with JJK is really good, nothing on Bones top-level tho which is the best studio for such kind of anime imo. Also lacking a lot of fluidity (in-betweens) sometimes (as in EP7). As for AoT Imai and Ebisu are a far better fit than either Oda or Kameda. Almost all of these Animators worked on OPM S1 for example. Genos vs Saitama (done by Imai) is still far better and memorable than either contribution of Oda or Kameda imo. Again MAPPA is a really solid studio but they don’t have this raw talented, highly experienced staff compared to other established studios. |
Jan 4, 2021 7:50 PM
#64
| a crypt0l0gy said: nd fucking seriously u have yet to see anything at all. yes ep 3 was rather disappointing even for me but the anime onlies are down for it as the best ep of s4 to date with some of the best moments in the entire anime! You r comparing those huge ass revalations which were set up since s1 and comparing them to things which have been set up this season? cause ep 3 actually did justice to a lot of the set up of s1-s3 as well, at least to the anime onlies, and i have a ton of anime only friends. you must not have read the manga for s3 pt1 because then you wouldn't be shitting around this wayHarsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Harsha1314 said: Krugerman said: also becuase they worked on it for like 3 long years and nearly all their talent budget and effort went to it for almost 99.99 percentcrypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Your point with this statement is? Bro I dunno what you‘re smoking or we must have watched two separate shows. Levi vs Kenny Scene? Mikasa vs Kenny‘s Team? Historia vs Rod Reiss? The scouts on top of the wall? Eren‘s Hardening scenes? Flashback to Grisha’s Titan? Background Art for the cave? The gorgeous ED? Teaser with Berthold, Reiner & Zeke with contains the most polished art of the armored titan to this day? Must be hard to have endured this nightmare. |
Jan 4, 2021 7:52 PM
#65
crypt0l0gy said: WTF???? did you just shit on kameda????? he literally made the best fight scene in fmab and almost all the epicness youve seen in mob psycho!!!Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Overall meaning what? Fluidity, Movement, what do you mean? I mean how can you give a comparison without specifically mentioning the advantages other than just the term “animation“? Art Style is also an integrated part of animation. animation as in movement( sakuga)- MAPPA has had better animations and connections to freelancers compared to WIT. Their action and character acting is better compared to WIT too. For example JJk, GOH, dororo( although it was abit inconsistent in second half- it had rly good sakugas). Zombieland saga has rly good character acting, jjk, garo and goh has amazing action animation, dororo has amazing sword fighting animation and they have alot of connections to freelancers like i said, JJk had so many freelancers like tanaka, watanabe, ishida, fujimototo and many others, Kakegurui also had tanaka, garo and goh had more or less similiar lvls of freelancers, dororo had also alot, dorohedoro- despite being a Cg anime had Gosei oda- a rly good animation to wrok on it. AOT has also Kameda for trailer and op and possibly even in upcoming acion scenes. At which point did we have Sakuga Scenes in Season 4? Their work with JJK is really good, nothing on Bones top-level tho which is the best studio for such kind of anime imo. Also lacking a lot of fluidity (in-betweens) sometimes (as in EP7). As for AoT Imai and Ebisu are a far better fit than either Oda or Kameda. Almost all of these Animators worked on OPM S1 for example. Genos vs Saitama (done by Imai) is still far better and memorable than either contribution of Oda or Kameda imo. Again MAPPA is a really solid studio but they don’t have this raw talented, highly experienced staff compared to other established studios. |
Jan 4, 2021 7:55 PM
#66
Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: yeah but they literally added all those fucking fights and bloody destroyed the entire characterization of mikasa. like they made her into a fkin 1 d simp for eren whereas in the manga they explored so much more about her! why her love for eren stands strong. why she feels like a motherly figure for erne. and even levi's characterization, well most of it is lost, like all the traits which show his human side and what you can see in him to look upto and also why u really shouldn't look up to him is all gone! the uprising arc in the manga was like the best one ok. even better than shiganshina retireval! compared to that i think this is a great adaptation which adds a lot more from the manga!Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: no im saying wit would've nailed it with that much time and money if they were prod community. just saying no mappa's adaptation isn't anywhere as worse as you described it to be in which case s3 pt 1 was a nightmare to meKrugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Harsha1314 said: Krugerman said: also becuase they worked on it for like 3 long years and nearly all their talent budget and effort went to it for almost 99.99 percentcrypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Your point with this statement is? Bro I dunno what you‘re smoking or we must have watched two separate shows. Levi vs Kenny Scene? Mikasa vs Kenny‘s Team? Historia vs Rod Reiss? The scouts on top of the wall? Eren‘s Hardening scenes? Flashback to Grisha’s Titan? Background Art for the cave? The gorgeous ED? Teaser with Berthold, Reiner & Zeke with contains the most polished art of the armored titan to this day? Must be hard to have endured this nightmare. We were talking about Animation in the first place but since you can‘t make a valid argument let‘s talk about the series composition. You know what? Isayama requested these changes on behave of a faster pacing because he wasn‘t satisfied with how the original handled it. Sure some Mikasa and Levi‘s interactions got cut more heavily but again you‘re just searching for flaws now. If you want blame anyone then Isayama. Oh I forgot MAPPA did cut more than entire chapters too! Oh we just get 16 Episodes for an adaptation til Chapter 122! Oh Reiner walking down the stair is now a 30s Clip with no emotional impact! MAPPA brought a nightmare /s |
Jan 4, 2021 7:59 PM
#67
crypt0l0gy said: no thats not fkin true for s3 pt1. no one would want their best arc to be butchered that way. i dont even think he is all that ok with the cuts in ep3 of s4. heh? how is reiner walking down stairs is supposed to have impact? its not like he knew he was walking into the basement like he was going to detonate a bomb is he? he just fkin followed falco. and what you said is so shitty and just proves yet again why s3 pt1 wouldve been a nightmare if i saw it the way you r seeing s4 which is the worst most shitty and meaningless elitist way possible.Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: no im saying wit would've nailed it with that much time and money if they were prod community. just saying no mappa's adaptation isn't anywhere as worse as you described it to be in which case s3 pt 1 was a nightmare to meKrugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Harsha1314 said: Krugerman said: also becuase they worked on it for like 3 long years and nearly all their talent budget and effort went to it for almost 99.99 percentcrypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Your point with this statement is? Bro I dunno what you‘re smoking or we must have watched two separate shows. Levi vs Kenny Scene? Mikasa vs Kenny‘s Team? Historia vs Rod Reiss? The scouts on top of the wall? Eren‘s Hardening scenes? Flashback to Grisha’s Titan? Background Art for the cave? The gorgeous ED? Teaser with Berthold, Reiner & Zeke with contains the most polished art of the armored titan to this day? Must be hard to have endured this nightmare. We were talking about Animation in the first place but since you can‘t make a valid argument let‘s talk about the series composition. You know what? Isayama requested these changes on behave of a faster pacing because he wasn‘t satisfied with how the original handled it. Sure some Mikasa and Levi‘s interactions got cut more heavily but again you‘re just searching for flaws now. If you want blame anyone then Isayama. Oh I forgot MAPPA did cut more than entire chapters too! Oh we just get 16 Episodes for an adaptation til Chapter 122! Oh Reiner walking down the stair is now a 30s Clip with no emotional impact! MAPPA brought a nightmare /s |
Jan 4, 2021 7:59 PM
#68
Harsha1314 said: a crypt0l0gy said: nd fucking seriously u have yet to see anything at all. yes ep 3 was rather disappointing even for me but the anime onlies are down for it as the best ep of s4 to date with some of the best moments in the entire anime! You r comparing those huge ass revalations which were set up since s1 and comparing them to things which have been set up this season? cause ep 3 actually did justice to a lot of the set up of s1-s3 as well, at least to the anime onlies, and i have a ton of anime only friends. you must not have read the manga for s3 pt1 because then you wouldn't be shitting around this wayHarsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: no im saying wit would've nailed it with that much time and money if they were prod community. just saying no mappa's adaptation isn't anywhere as worse as you described it to be in which case s3 pt 1 was a nightmare to meKrugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Harsha1314 said: Krugerman said: also becuase they worked on it for like 3 long years and nearly all their talent budget and effort went to it for almost 99.99 percentcrypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Your point with this statement is? Bro I dunno what you‘re smoking or we must have watched two separate shows. Levi vs Kenny Scene? Mikasa vs Kenny‘s Team? Historia vs Rod Reiss? The scouts on top of the wall? Eren‘s Hardening scenes? Flashback to Grisha’s Titan? Background Art for the cave? The gorgeous ED? Teaser with Berthold, Reiner & Zeke with contains the most polished art of the armored titan to this day? Must be hard to have endured this nightmare. crypt0l0gy said: and guess what? s3 pt 1 adapted like 29 ch into 12 epHarsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: no im saying wit would've nailed it with that much time and money if they were prod community. just saying no mappa's adaptation isn't anywhere as worse as you described it to be in which case s3 pt 1 was a nightmare to meKrugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Harsha1314 said: Krugerman said: also becuase they worked on it for like 3 long years and nearly all their talent budget and effort went to it for almost 99.99 percentcrypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Your point with this statement is? Bro I dunno what you‘re smoking or we must have watched two separate shows. Levi vs Kenny Scene? Mikasa vs Kenny‘s Team? Historia vs Rod Reiss? The scouts on top of the wall? Eren‘s Hardening scenes? Flashback to Grisha’s Titan? Background Art for the cave? The gorgeous ED? Teaser with Berthold, Reiner & Zeke with contains the most polished art of the armored titan to this day? Must be hard to have endured this nightmare. We were talking about Animation in the first place but since you can‘t make a valid argument let‘s talk about the series composition. You know what? Isayama requested these changes on behave of a faster pacing because he wasn‘t satisfied with how the original handled it. Sure some Mikasa and Levi‘s interactions got cut more heavily but again you‘re just searching for flaws now. If you want blame anyone then Isayama. Oh I forgot MAPPA did cut more than entire chapters too! Oh we just get 16 Episodes for an adaptation til Chapter 122! Oh Reiner walking down the stair is now a 30s Clip with no emotional impact! MAPPA brought a nightmare /s |
Jan 4, 2021 8:00 PM
#69
crypt0l0gy said: Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Overall meaning what? Fluidity, Movement, what do you mean? I mean how can you give a comparison without specifically mentioning the advantages other than just the term “animation“? Art Style is also an integrated part of animation. animation as in movement( sakuga)- MAPPA has had better animations and connections to freelancers compared to WIT. Their action and character acting is better compared to WIT too. For example JJk, GOH, dororo( although it was abit inconsistent in second half- it had rly good sakugas). Zombieland saga has rly good character acting, jjk, garo and goh has amazing action animation, dororo has amazing sword fighting animation and they have alot of connections to freelancers like i said, JJk had so many freelancers like tanaka, watanabe, ishida, fujimototo and many others, Kakegurui also had tanaka, garo and goh had more or less similiar lvls of freelancers, dororo had also alot, dorohedoro- despite being a Cg anime had Gosei oda- a rly good animation to wrok on it. AOT has also Kameda for trailer and op and possibly even in upcoming acion scenes. At which point did we have Sakuga Scenes in Season 4? Their work with JJK is really good, nothing on Bones top-level tho which is the best studio for such kind of anime imo. Also lacking a lot of fluidity (in-betweens) sometimes (as in EP7). As for AoT Imai and Ebisu are a far better fit than either Oda or Kameda. Almost all of these Animators worked on OPM S1 for example. Genos vs Saitama (done by Imai) is still far better and memorable than either contribution of Oda or Kameda imo. Again MAPPA is a really solid studio but they don’t have this raw talented, highly experienced staff compared to other established studios. I never said s4 has sakuga scenes I said for later eps, of course it's not as good as Bones- top lvl lol they have Fucking Nakamura. Imai and Ebisu are more experienced with AOt and besides we haven't' seen Kameda in action yet so it's too soon to judge. Also tbf the other studios like u mention- bones, Production Ig, A-1, Madhouse are very old studios and WIT is under IG and so they had alot of help while MAPPA just had the founder of MADHOUSE and that's it. |
Jan 4, 2021 8:03 PM
#70
Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: WTF???? did you just shit on kameda????? he literally made the best fight scene in fmab and almost all the epicness youve seen in mob psycho!!!Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Overall meaning what? Fluidity, Movement, what do you mean? I mean how can you give a comparison without specifically mentioning the advantages other than just the term “animation“? Art Style is also an integrated part of animation. animation as in movement( sakuga)- MAPPA has had better animations and connections to freelancers compared to WIT. Their action and character acting is better compared to WIT too. For example JJk, GOH, dororo( although it was abit inconsistent in second half- it had rly good sakugas). Zombieland saga has rly good character acting, jjk, garo and goh has amazing action animation, dororo has amazing sword fighting animation and they have alot of connections to freelancers like i said, JJk had so many freelancers like tanaka, watanabe, ishida, fujimototo and many others, Kakegurui also had tanaka, garo and goh had more or less similiar lvls of freelancers, dororo had also alot, dorohedoro- despite being a Cg anime had Gosei oda- a rly good animation to wrok on it. AOT has also Kameda for trailer and op and possibly even in upcoming acion scenes. At which point did we have Sakuga Scenes in Season 4? Their work with JJK is really good, nothing on Bones top-level tho which is the best studio for such kind of anime imo. Also lacking a lot of fluidity (in-betweens) sometimes (as in EP7). As for AoT Imai and Ebisu are a far better fit than either Oda or Kameda. Almost all of these Animators worked on OPM S1 for example. Genos vs Saitama (done by Imai) is still far better and memorable than either contribution of Oda or Kameda imo. Again MAPPA is a really solid studio but they don’t have this raw talented, highly experienced staff compared to other established studios. Nah Kameda is a legend but he is more acquainted with Bones than MAPPA. Also his style is not the best fit for AoT. Besides in which way does his contribution to the OP where nothing is shown help to elevate the overall animation experience? If he isn‘t doing any action sequences which is his speciality and it wouldn’t be impossible considering the titans are mostly CG why bother with him in the first place? |
Jan 4, 2021 8:04 PM
#71
crypt0l0gy said: not all titans will be cgi. many leakers feel kameda is working on a fight, and the war hammer is prolly 2dHarsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Overall meaning what? Fluidity, Movement, what do you mean? I mean how can you give a comparison without specifically mentioning the advantages other than just the term “animation“? Art Style is also an integrated part of animation. animation as in movement( sakuga)- MAPPA has had better animations and connections to freelancers compared to WIT. Their action and character acting is better compared to WIT too. For example JJk, GOH, dororo( although it was abit inconsistent in second half- it had rly good sakugas). Zombieland saga has rly good character acting, jjk, garo and goh has amazing action animation, dororo has amazing sword fighting animation and they have alot of connections to freelancers like i said, JJk had so many freelancers like tanaka, watanabe, ishida, fujimototo and many others, Kakegurui also had tanaka, garo and goh had more or less similiar lvls of freelancers, dororo had also alot, dorohedoro- despite being a Cg anime had Gosei oda- a rly good animation to wrok on it. AOT has also Kameda for trailer and op and possibly even in upcoming acion scenes. At which point did we have Sakuga Scenes in Season 4? Their work with JJK is really good, nothing on Bones top-level tho which is the best studio for such kind of anime imo. Also lacking a lot of fluidity (in-betweens) sometimes (as in EP7). As for AoT Imai and Ebisu are a far better fit than either Oda or Kameda. Almost all of these Animators worked on OPM S1 for example. Genos vs Saitama (done by Imai) is still far better and memorable than either contribution of Oda or Kameda imo. Again MAPPA is a really solid studio but they don’t have this raw talented, highly experienced staff compared to other established studios. Nah Kameda is a legend but he is more acquainted with Bones than MAPPA. Also his style is not the best fit for AoT. Besides in which way does his contribution to the OP where nothing is shown help to elevate the overall animation experience? If he isn‘t doing any action sequences which is his speciality and it wouldn’t be impossible considering the titans are mostly CG why bother with him in the first place? |
Jan 4, 2021 8:06 PM
#72
Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: no thats not fkin true for s3 pt1. no one would want their best arc to be butchered that way. i dont even think he is all that ok with the cuts in ep3 of s4. heh? how is reiner walking down stairs is supposed to have impact? its not like he knew he was walking into the basement like he was going to detonate a bomb is he? he just fkin followed falco. and what you said is so shitty and just proves yet again why s3 pt1 wouldve been a nightmare if i saw it the way you r seeing s4 which is the worst most shitty and meaningless elitist way possible.Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: yeah but they literally added all those fucking fights and bloody destroyed the entire characterization of mikasa. like they made her into a fkin 1 d simp for eren whereas in the manga they explored so much more about her! why her love for eren stands strong. why she feels like a motherly figure for erne. and even levi's characterization, well most of it is lost, like all the traits which show his human side and what you can see in him to look upto and also why u really shouldn't look up to him is all gone! the uprising arc in the manga was like the best one ok. even better than shiganshina retireval! compared to that i think this is a great adaptation which adds a lot more from the manga!Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: no im saying wit would've nailed it with that much time and money if they were prod community. just saying no mappa's adaptation isn't anywhere as worse as you described it to be in which case s3 pt 1 was a nightmare to meKrugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Harsha1314 said: Krugerman said: also becuase they worked on it for like 3 long years and nearly all their talent budget and effort went to it for almost 99.99 percentcrypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Your point with this statement is? Bro I dunno what you‘re smoking or we must have watched two separate shows. Levi vs Kenny Scene? Mikasa vs Kenny‘s Team? Historia vs Rod Reiss? The scouts on top of the wall? Eren‘s Hardening scenes? Flashback to Grisha’s Titan? Background Art for the cave? The gorgeous ED? Teaser with Berthold, Reiner & Zeke with contains the most polished art of the armored titan to this day? Must be hard to have endured this nightmare. We were talking about Animation in the first place but since you can‘t make a valid argument let‘s talk about the series composition. You know what? Isayama requested these changes on behave of a faster pacing because he wasn‘t satisfied with how the original handled it. Sure some Mikasa and Levi‘s interactions got cut more heavily but again you‘re just searching for flaws now. If you want blame anyone then Isayama. Oh I forgot MAPPA did cut more than entire chapters too! Oh we just get 16 Episodes for an adaptation til Chapter 122! Oh Reiner walking down the stair is now a 30s Clip with no emotional impact! MAPPA brought a nightmare /s pls stop both of u, Kodansha gave little eps for uprising and s4 but so far pacing for those- although a bit too fast was still enjoyable- don't overexaggerate and don't have double standards |
Jan 4, 2021 8:07 PM
#73
Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Overall meaning what? Fluidity, Movement, what do you mean? I mean how can you give a comparison without specifically mentioning the advantages other than just the term “animation“? Art Style is also an integrated part of animation. animation as in movement( sakuga)- MAPPA has had better animations and connections to freelancers compared to WIT. Their action and character acting is better compared to WIT too. For example JJk, GOH, dororo( although it was abit inconsistent in second half- it had rly good sakugas). Zombieland saga has rly good character acting, jjk, garo and goh has amazing action animation, dororo has amazing sword fighting animation and they have alot of connections to freelancers like i said, JJk had so many freelancers like tanaka, watanabe, ishida, fujimototo and many others, Kakegurui also had tanaka, garo and goh had more or less similiar lvls of freelancers, dororo had also alot, dorohedoro- despite being a Cg anime had Gosei oda- a rly good animation to wrok on it. AOT has also Kameda for trailer and op and possibly even in upcoming acion scenes. At which point did we have Sakuga Scenes in Season 4? Their work with JJK is really good, nothing on Bones top-level tho which is the best studio for such kind of anime imo. Also lacking a lot of fluidity (in-betweens) sometimes (as in EP7). As for AoT Imai and Ebisu are a far better fit than either Oda or Kameda. Almost all of these Animators worked on OPM S1 for example. Genos vs Saitama (done by Imai) is still far better and memorable than either contribution of Oda or Kameda imo. Again MAPPA is a really solid studio but they don’t have this raw talented, highly experienced staff compared to other established studios. I never said s4 has sakuga scenes I said for later eps, of course it's not as good as Bones- top lvl lol they have Fucking Nakamura. Imai and Ebisu are more experienced with AOt and besides we haven't' seen Kameda in action yet so it's too soon to judge. Also tbf the other studios like u mention- bones, Production Ig, A-1, Madhouse are very old studios and WIT is under IG and so they had alot of help while MAPPA just had the founder of MADHOUSE and that's it. Your comment just further proved my point that WIT is in a better position overall and you don‘t even seem to realize it. Thank you. On a side note: I‘m not here to hate on MAPPA in any way because they‘re a great studio but if we‘re talking facts let‘s talk facts. |
Jan 4, 2021 8:08 PM
#74
crypt0l0gy said: Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Overall meaning what? Fluidity, Movement, what do you mean? I mean how can you give a comparison without specifically mentioning the advantages other than just the term “animation“? Art Style is also an integrated part of animation. animation as in movement( sakuga)- MAPPA has had better animations and connections to freelancers compared to WIT. Their action and character acting is better compared to WIT too. For example JJk, GOH, dororo( although it was abit inconsistent in second half- it had rly good sakugas). Zombieland saga has rly good character acting, jjk, garo and goh has amazing action animation, dororo has amazing sword fighting animation and they have alot of connections to freelancers like i said, JJk had so many freelancers like tanaka, watanabe, ishida, fujimototo and many others, Kakegurui also had tanaka, garo and goh had more or less similiar lvls of freelancers, dororo had also alot, dorohedoro- despite being a Cg anime had Gosei oda- a rly good animation to wrok on it. AOT has also Kameda for trailer and op and possibly even in upcoming acion scenes. At which point did we have Sakuga Scenes in Season 4? Their work with JJK is really good, nothing on Bones top-level tho which is the best studio for such kind of anime imo. Also lacking a lot of fluidity (in-betweens) sometimes (as in EP7). As for AoT Imai and Ebisu are a far better fit than either Oda or Kameda. Almost all of these Animators worked on OPM S1 for example. Genos vs Saitama (done by Imai) is still far better and memorable than either contribution of Oda or Kameda imo. Again MAPPA is a really solid studio but they don’t have this raw talented, highly experienced staff compared to other established studios. Nah Kameda is a legend but he is more acquainted with Bones than MAPPA. Also his style is not the best fit for AoT. Besides in which way does his contribution to the OP where nothing is shown help to elevate the overall animation experience? If he isn‘t doing any action sequences which is his speciality and it wouldn’t be impossible considering the titans are mostly CG why bother with him in the first place? for liberio- I assume for warhammer scenes. ANd besides bro that's why I'm impressed! MAPPA brought in someone who works closely with bones to AOT, I'm curious to what scenes he will do- I assume he may be in charge of some odm gear scenes since he has amazing presepective |
Jan 4, 2021 8:10 PM
#75
Krugerman said: nah i just meant that if i actually watched s3 pt1 the way he is watching s4 rn, i would've hated it no doubt. im just asking him to stop spreading false info and false "facts" on s4 and mappa which would give people the wrong idea and literally give space for more trollsHarsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: yeah but they literally added all those fucking fights and bloody destroyed the entire characterization of mikasa. like they made her into a fkin 1 d simp for eren whereas in the manga they explored so much more about her! why her love for eren stands strong. why she feels like a motherly figure for erne. and even levi's characterization, well most of it is lost, like all the traits which show his human side and what you can see in him to look upto and also why u really shouldn't look up to him is all gone! the uprising arc in the manga was like the best one ok. even better than shiganshina retireval! compared to that i think this is a great adaptation which adds a lot more from the manga!Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: no im saying wit would've nailed it with that much time and money if they were prod community. just saying no mappa's adaptation isn't anywhere as worse as you described it to be in which case s3 pt 1 was a nightmare to meKrugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Harsha1314 said: Krugerman said: also becuase they worked on it for like 3 long years and nearly all their talent budget and effort went to it for almost 99.99 percentcrypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Your point with this statement is? Bro I dunno what you‘re smoking or we must have watched two separate shows. Levi vs Kenny Scene? Mikasa vs Kenny‘s Team? Historia vs Rod Reiss? The scouts on top of the wall? Eren‘s Hardening scenes? Flashback to Grisha’s Titan? Background Art for the cave? The gorgeous ED? Teaser with Berthold, Reiner & Zeke with contains the most polished art of the armored titan to this day? Must be hard to have endured this nightmare. We were talking about Animation in the first place but since you can‘t make a valid argument let‘s talk about the series composition. You know what? Isayama requested these changes on behave of a faster pacing because he wasn‘t satisfied with how the original handled it. Sure some Mikasa and Levi‘s interactions got cut more heavily but again you‘re just searching for flaws now. If you want blame anyone then Isayama. Oh I forgot MAPPA did cut more than entire chapters too! Oh we just get 16 Episodes for an adaptation til Chapter 122! Oh Reiner walking down the stair is now a 30s Clip with no emotional impact! MAPPA brought a nightmare /s pls stop both of u, Kodansha gave little eps for uprising and s4 but so far pacing for those- although a bit too fast was still enjoyable- don't overexaggerate and don't have double standards |
Jan 4, 2021 8:10 PM
#76
crypt0l0gy said: Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Krugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Overall meaning what? Fluidity, Movement, what do you mean? I mean how can you give a comparison without specifically mentioning the advantages other than just the term “animation“? Art Style is also an integrated part of animation. animation as in movement( sakuga)- MAPPA has had better animations and connections to freelancers compared to WIT. Their action and character acting is better compared to WIT too. For example JJk, GOH, dororo( although it was abit inconsistent in second half- it had rly good sakugas). Zombieland saga has rly good character acting, jjk, garo and goh has amazing action animation, dororo has amazing sword fighting animation and they have alot of connections to freelancers like i said, JJk had so many freelancers like tanaka, watanabe, ishida, fujimototo and many others, Kakegurui also had tanaka, garo and goh had more or less similiar lvls of freelancers, dororo had also alot, dorohedoro- despite being a Cg anime had Gosei oda- a rly good animation to wrok on it. AOT has also Kameda for trailer and op and possibly even in upcoming acion scenes. At which point did we have Sakuga Scenes in Season 4? Their work with JJK is really good, nothing on Bones top-level tho which is the best studio for such kind of anime imo. Also lacking a lot of fluidity (in-betweens) sometimes (as in EP7). As for AoT Imai and Ebisu are a far better fit than either Oda or Kameda. Almost all of these Animators worked on OPM S1 for example. Genos vs Saitama (done by Imai) is still far better and memorable than either contribution of Oda or Kameda imo. Again MAPPA is a really solid studio but they don’t have this raw talented, highly experienced staff compared to other established studios. I never said s4 has sakuga scenes I said for later eps, of course it's not as good as Bones- top lvl lol they have Fucking Nakamura. Imai and Ebisu are more experienced with AOt and besides we haven't' seen Kameda in action yet so it's too soon to judge. Also tbf the other studios like u mention- bones, Production Ig, A-1, Madhouse are very old studios and WIT is under IG and so they had alot of help while MAPPA just had the founder of MADHOUSE and that's it. Your comment just further proved my point that WIT is in a better position overall and you don‘t even seem to realize it. Thank you. On a side note: I‘m not here to hate on MAPPA in any way because they‘re a great studio but if we‘re talking facts let‘s talk facts. Liek I said, WIT is better in some aspects and MAPPA in other aspects. MAPPA animation is better for me and WIT has better art. If we are looking at s1 sakuga- it was amazing because IG helped them but s2 onwards IG was less and less involved leading to most of the scenes by Imai but regardless peak WIT has amazing art compared to MAPPA |
Jan 4, 2021 8:11 PM
#77
Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: no thats not fkin true for s3 pt1. no one would want their best arc to be butchered that way. i dont even think he is all that ok with the cuts in ep3 of s4. heh? how is reiner walking down stairs is supposed to have impact? its not like he knew he was walking into the basement like he was going to detonate a bomb is he? he just fkin followed falco. and what you said is so shitty and just proves yet again why s3 pt1 wouldve been a nightmare if i saw it the way you r seeing s4 which is the worst most shitty and meaningless elitist way possible.Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: yeah but they literally added all those fucking fights and bloody destroyed the entire characterization of mikasa. like they made her into a fkin 1 d simp for eren whereas in the manga they explored so much more about her! why her love for eren stands strong. why she feels like a motherly figure for erne. and even levi's characterization, well most of it is lost, like all the traits which show his human side and what you can see in him to look upto and also why u really shouldn't look up to him is all gone! the uprising arc in the manga was like the best one ok. even better than shiganshina retireval! compared to that i think this is a great adaptation which adds a lot more from the manga!Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: no im saying wit would've nailed it with that much time and money if they were prod community. just saying no mappa's adaptation isn't anywhere as worse as you described it to be in which case s3 pt 1 was a nightmare to meKrugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Harsha1314 said: Krugerman said: also becuase they worked on it for like 3 long years and nearly all their talent budget and effort went to it for almost 99.99 percentcrypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Your point with this statement is? Bro I dunno what you‘re smoking or we must have watched two separate shows. Levi vs Kenny Scene? Mikasa vs Kenny‘s Team? Historia vs Rod Reiss? The scouts on top of the wall? Eren‘s Hardening scenes? Flashback to Grisha’s Titan? Background Art for the cave? The gorgeous ED? Teaser with Berthold, Reiner & Zeke with contains the most polished art of the armored titan to this day? Must be hard to have endured this nightmare. We were talking about Animation in the first place but since you can‘t make a valid argument let‘s talk about the series composition. You know what? Isayama requested these changes on behave of a faster pacing because he wasn‘t satisfied with how the original handled it. Sure some Mikasa and Levi‘s interactions got cut more heavily but again you‘re just searching for flaws now. If you want blame anyone then Isayama. Oh I forgot MAPPA did cut more than entire chapters too! Oh we just get 16 Episodes for an adaptation til Chapter 122! Oh Reiner walking down the stair is now a 30s Clip with no emotional impact! MAPPA brought a nightmare /s Bro Isayama literally requested it, he wasn‘t satisfied with Uprising and how it was done in the manga, just look it up. Make him feel sorry that he thought this way or whatnot I don‘t know what I should tell you lol. Also this has nothing to do with the original discussion anymore so I‘ll leave it like that. |
Jan 4, 2021 8:11 PM
#78
Harsha1314 said: Krugerman said: nah i just meant that if i actually watched s3 pt1 the way he is watching s4 rn, i would've hated it no doubt. im just asking him to stop spreading false info and false "facts" on s4 and mappa which would give people the wrong idea and literally give space for more trollsHarsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: no thats not fkin true for s3 pt1. no one would want their best arc to be butchered that way. i dont even think he is all that ok with the cuts in ep3 of s4. heh? how is reiner walking down stairs is supposed to have impact? its not like he knew he was walking into the basement like he was going to detonate a bomb is he? he just fkin followed falco. and what you said is so shitty and just proves yet again why s3 pt1 wouldve been a nightmare if i saw it the way you r seeing s4 which is the worst most shitty and meaningless elitist way possible.Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: yeah but they literally added all those fucking fights and bloody destroyed the entire characterization of mikasa. like they made her into a fkin 1 d simp for eren whereas in the manga they explored so much more about her! why her love for eren stands strong. why she feels like a motherly figure for erne. and even levi's characterization, well most of it is lost, like all the traits which show his human side and what you can see in him to look upto and also why u really shouldn't look up to him is all gone! the uprising arc in the manga was like the best one ok. even better than shiganshina retireval! compared to that i think this is a great adaptation which adds a lot more from the manga!Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: no im saying wit would've nailed it with that much time and money if they were prod community. just saying no mappa's adaptation isn't anywhere as worse as you described it to be in which case s3 pt 1 was a nightmare to meKrugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Harsha1314 said: Krugerman said: also becuase they worked on it for like 3 long years and nearly all their talent budget and effort went to it for almost 99.99 percentcrypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Your point with this statement is? Bro I dunno what you‘re smoking or we must have watched two separate shows. Levi vs Kenny Scene? Mikasa vs Kenny‘s Team? Historia vs Rod Reiss? The scouts on top of the wall? Eren‘s Hardening scenes? Flashback to Grisha’s Titan? Background Art for the cave? The gorgeous ED? Teaser with Berthold, Reiner & Zeke with contains the most polished art of the armored titan to this day? Must be hard to have endured this nightmare. We were talking about Animation in the first place but since you can‘t make a valid argument let‘s talk about the series composition. You know what? Isayama requested these changes on behave of a faster pacing because he wasn‘t satisfied with how the original handled it. Sure some Mikasa and Levi‘s interactions got cut more heavily but again you‘re just searching for flaws now. If you want blame anyone then Isayama. Oh I forgot MAPPA did cut more than entire chapters too! Oh we just get 16 Episodes for an adaptation til Chapter 122! Oh Reiner walking down the stair is now a 30s Clip with no emotional impact! MAPPA brought a nightmare /s pls stop both of u, Kodansha gave little eps for uprising and s4 but so far pacing for those- although a bit too fast was still enjoyable- don't overexaggerate and don't have double standards what false info did he spread? |
Jan 4, 2021 8:12 PM
#79
crypt0l0gy said: then that's a lucas descision he made i'd say. in that case if he really did make changes for s4 as well as ive seen everywhere in internet, its not great.Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: yeah but they literally added all those fucking fights and bloody destroyed the entire characterization of mikasa. like they made her into a fkin 1 d simp for eren whereas in the manga they explored so much more about her! why her love for eren stands strong. why she feels like a motherly figure for erne. and even levi's characterization, well most of it is lost, like all the traits which show his human side and what you can see in him to look upto and also why u really shouldn't look up to him is all gone! the uprising arc in the manga was like the best one ok. even better than shiganshina retireval! compared to that i think this is a great adaptation which adds a lot more from the manga!Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: no im saying wit would've nailed it with that much time and money if they were prod community. just saying no mappa's adaptation isn't anywhere as worse as you described it to be in which case s3 pt 1 was a nightmare to meKrugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Harsha1314 said: Krugerman said: also becuase they worked on it for like 3 long years and nearly all their talent budget and effort went to it for almost 99.99 percentcrypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Your point with this statement is? Bro I dunno what you‘re smoking or we must have watched two separate shows. Levi vs Kenny Scene? Mikasa vs Kenny‘s Team? Historia vs Rod Reiss? The scouts on top of the wall? Eren‘s Hardening scenes? Flashback to Grisha’s Titan? Background Art for the cave? The gorgeous ED? Teaser with Berthold, Reiner & Zeke with contains the most polished art of the armored titan to this day? Must be hard to have endured this nightmare. We were talking about Animation in the first place but since you can‘t make a valid argument let‘s talk about the series composition. You know what? Isayama requested these changes on behave of a faster pacing because he wasn‘t satisfied with how the original handled it. Sure some Mikasa and Levi‘s interactions got cut more heavily but again you‘re just searching for flaws now. If you want blame anyone then Isayama. Oh I forgot MAPPA did cut more than entire chapters too! Oh we just get 16 Episodes for an adaptation til Chapter 122! Oh Reiner walking down the stair is now a 30s Clip with no emotional impact! MAPPA brought a nightmare /s Bro Isayama literally requested it, he wasn‘t satisfied with Uprising and how it was done in the manga, just look it up. Make him feel sorry that he thought this way or whatnot I don‘t know what I should tell you lol. Also this has nothing to do with the original discussion anymore so I‘ll leave it like that. |
Jan 4, 2021 8:13 PM
#80
crypt0l0gy said: Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: yeah but they literally added all those fucking fights and bloody destroyed the entire characterization of mikasa. like they made her into a fkin 1 d simp for eren whereas in the manga they explored so much more about her! why her love for eren stands strong. why she feels like a motherly figure for erne. and even levi's characterization, well most of it is lost, like all the traits which show his human side and what you can see in him to look upto and also why u really shouldn't look up to him is all gone! the uprising arc in the manga was like the best one ok. even better than shiganshina retireval! compared to that i think this is a great adaptation which adds a lot more from the manga!Harsha1314 said: crypt0l0gy said: no im saying wit would've nailed it with that much time and money if they were prod community. just saying no mappa's adaptation isn't anywhere as worse as you described it to be in which case s3 pt 1 was a nightmare to meKrugerman said: crypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Harsha1314 said: Krugerman said: also becuase they worked on it for like 3 long years and nearly all their talent budget and effort went to it for almost 99.99 percentcrypt0l0gy said: Where is all this WIT hate coming from? You guys forget that WITs adaptation is what made the franchise so big in the first place. As far as raw talent goes they‘ll beat MAPPA in every aspect. Art Consistency, Animation Complexity, Composition & Coloring, Effects, Photography, etc. Most of their in-house staff are industry veterans with lots of experience. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2019/05/19/attack-on-titan-at-its-wits-end/ WIT delivered a slightly worse season with S3P2 because their priorities shifted. Also they lost a lot of freelancers working for them for important roles such as CAD. On top of that they were producing Kabaneri Movie and Vinland Saga the same time while being such a small studio. WIT with all its resources beats MAPPA any time. They just didn’t put all their effort into AoT because they got paid sh*t. Look at the animation in Kabaneri, not even Peak Season 2 comes closes to this level let alone any work from MAPPA. Not that MAPPA is bad, but their staff quality overall is worse. Everyone in the industry would agree to that. MAPPA didn‘t even put their best team for working on AoT. Just wait until we have footage to compare complex animation sequences such as the 3D-Maneuver gear scenes. You‘ll see where MAPPA is lacking. The episodes until know never required top-level animation. For doing dialogue heavy episodes every studio would be sufficient. And even then MAPPA delivered nothing special imo. It does not go any higher than what the source material provided in the first place, even falls flat in comparison sometimes. The previous seasons on the other hand really helped to elevate it despite it flaws. MAPPA delivers a decent job, but AoT never had the standard for being just decent. art wise WIT is def better than MAPPA, but animation-wise not rly, MAPPA does have better animation overall. ANd yea Kabaneri art was so fucking gorgeous- even more better than aot s2. Your point with this statement is? Bro I dunno what you‘re smoking or we must have watched two separate shows. Levi vs Kenny Scene? Mikasa vs Kenny‘s Team? Historia vs Rod Reiss? The scouts on top of the wall? Eren‘s Hardening scenes? Flashback to Grisha’s Titan? Background Art for the cave? The gorgeous ED? Teaser with Berthold, Reiner & Zeke with contains the most polished art of the armored titan to this day? Must be hard to have endured this nightmare. We were talking about Animation in the first place but since you can‘t make a valid argument let‘s talk about the series composition. You know what? Isayama requested these changes on behave of a faster pacing because he wasn‘t satisfied with how the original handled it. Sure some Mikasa and Levi‘s interactions got cut more heavily but again you‘re just searching for flaws now. If you want blame anyone then Isayama. Oh I forgot MAPPA did cut more than entire chapters too! Oh we just get 16 Episodes for an adaptation til Chapter 122! Oh Reiner walking down the stair is now a 30s Clip with no emotional impact! MAPPA brought a nightmare /s Bro Isayama literally requested it, he wasn‘t satisfied with Uprising and how it was done in the manga, just look it up. Make him feel sorry that he thought this way or whatnot I don‘t know what I should tell you lol. Also this has nothing to do with the original discussion anymore so I‘ll leave it like that. yup, I mean Kodansha gave less number of eps than ideal but still isayam's changes worked out well and surely if it was directly copied from manga it would've been too slow, s4 was also abit rushed for ep 3 but still good overalll |
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