starlessn1ght said: DarkAngel1221 said: I did try the episode one, I didn't even lasted for a minute. Even my family asked "what the hell are you watching? Do you wanna go back as a kid?...", It gave me so much sweat and I said I was just checking it. Like, really... LMAO!!! Well, like I said... You have your own taste, I can't do anything about that! XD I also did not like the first episode. Nor the eps until the 25th. That time it shifted 180 degree and holy shit it became really awesome. Like, flat characters being developed and becoming three-dimensional, the plot taking shape and getting me hooked, the answers to the questions appearing and more questions being raised. I just watched until the 25th because people said it would get better. And it did. tragedydesu said: you tell me this piece of shit is better than anime? not even close to be in the level of boku no pico xD ahahhaa stop trolling plz  Okay, except I never said that? I didn't say it was better than anime, I said it was better than A LOT of anime I've watched. Perhaps NNB is better or the same, I'm just saying it's awesome and it's a pity you and others have preconceived notions about "children cartoons" based on stereotypes and the looks of it (the stupidity goes so far to the point you call it shit without even watching). I think anime is a great medium. But so are Western cartoons. Each of them have their own ways of telling stories. People may dismiss some anime because it looks 'ecchi' or 'moe' or 'generic', but some of those have great stories beneath the surface. The same happens with cartoons. They may have childish stuff with childish jokes, but in many cases, that's just the surface. Like Steven Universe. SU is a commentary on 'humans' from an outside view fantasied as a children's show. There are many things on it children will definitely not understand. A lot of 'ecchi' anime, even if their stories are crap, have great art. Drawing sexy people has been an artform since time immemorial. Anime just continues the tradition. Few anime have a character like Rias Gremory. |
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Whaaaaaaaaaat don't be mean to Nagisa. Cockroaches are HIDEOUS things; if I see one, I will scream and try to kill it. Nagisa's just CUTE. D: She doesn't look anything like a cockroach! most of Steven Universe's character are unappealing to me lol |
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Chiibi said: funny enough the one that actually cockrach is much cuter than this and not hideous.Whaaaaaaaaaat don't be mean to Nagisa. Cockroaches are HIDEOUS things; if I see one, I will scream and try to kill it. Nagisa's just CUTE. D: She doesn't look anything like a cockroach! most of Steven Universe's character are unappealing to me lol  |
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Kuma said: Chiibi said: funny enough the one that actually cockrach is much cuter than this and not hideous.Whaaaaaaaaaat don't be mean to Nagisa. Cockroaches are HIDEOUS things; if I see one, I will scream and try to kill it. Nagisa's just CUTE. D: She doesn't look anything like a cockroach! most of Steven Universe's character are unappealing to me lol "Much cuter".......no, they are both cute......though that other girl looks TOO much like a cockroach; it's the hair. lol |
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l0li_m0e_ya0i said: They are far less simplistic than the amorphous pokemon you posted. Also next time use your dictionary before using words. The Steven Universe characters can't be amorphous if you can tell they look like simplified human characters. Steven Universe as an adult clearly resembling Steven Sugar (who he is based on)whether it be simplistic or not shows that he isn't amorphous. If something is amorphous you wouldn't be able to tell what it is for example Wobbuffett and Gardevoir. You can't clearly tell what they are supposed to resemble irl. As I said before the Steven Universe characters have noses, hands, fingers, legs. They are far more defined than those Pokemon. Also I would like to see you perfectly recreate them to the t if they are so easy to draw. Moe characters are as simplistic as can be facially. Facially they are just walking pairs of eyes.Oh my gosh, the similarity is uncanny~ The character clothing has no shading whatsoever, there are no lights in their eyes, and their body shapes are drawn in the simplest way possible. You say that Steven is designed after a real guy, but he is a heavily simplified animated interpretation. The same with anime. You can tell it's a pretty girl, but will you ever find someone like them in real life? No. The characters in Steven Universe can be drawn just as easily as Wobbufett, as they are simple designs. Anime can work the same way, of course. Also both Ranma 1/2 and Queen's Blade use the simple nose and mouth method. Make up your mind silly, you either hate the way it's designed or you don't. Perhaps you just simply overlook it when it's your favorite anime. The original Queen's Blade anime has female characters with noses and lips. Chiibi said: Her double strand antenna hair , huge eyes and no nose makes her look like a human cockroach. Cockroaches have huge eyes, antenna and no nose.Whaaaaaaaaaat don't be mean to Nagisa. Cockroaches are HIDEOUS things; if I see one, I will scream and try to kill it. Nagisa's just CUTE. D: She doesn't look anything like a cockroach! Her super huge eyes creeps me out and the eyes from the characters of Kanon as well hence why I have never had an interest in watching either Clannad or Kannon. |
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DrGeroCreation said: l0li_m0e_ya0i said: They are far less simplistic than the amorphous pokemon you posted. Also next time use your dictionary before using words. The Steven Universe characters can't be amorphous if you can tell they look like simplified human characters. Steven Universe as an adult clearly resembling Steven Sugar (who he is based on)whether it be simplistic or not shows that he isn't amorphous. If something is amorphous you wouldn't be able to tell what it is for example Wobbuffett and Gardevoir. You can't clearly tell what they are supposed to resemble irl. As I said before the Steven Universe characters have noses, hands, fingers, legs. They are far more defined than those Pokemon. Also I would like to see you perfectly recreate them to the t if they are so easy to draw. Moe characters are as simplistic as can be facially. Facially they are just walking pairs of eyes.Oh my gosh, the similarity is uncanny~ The character clothing has no shading whatsoever, there are no lights in their eyes, and their body shapes are drawn in the simplest way possible. You say that Steven is designed after a real guy, but he is a heavily simplified animated interpretation. The same with anime. You can tell it's a pretty girl, but will you ever find someone like them in real life? No. The characters in Steven Universe can be drawn just as easily as Wobbufett, as they are simple designs. Anime can work the same way, of course. Also both Ranma 1/2 and Queen's Blade use the simple nose and mouth method. Make up your mind silly, you either hate the way it's designed or you don't. Perhaps you just simply overlook it when it's your favorite anime. The original Queen's Blade anime has female characters with noses and lips. Chiibi said: Her double strand antenna hair , huge eyes and no nose makes her look like a human cockroach. Cockroaches have huge eyes, antenna and no nose.Whaaaaaaaaaat don't be mean to Nagisa. Cockroaches are HIDEOUS things; if I see one, I will scream and try to kill it. Nagisa's just CUTE. D: She doesn't look anything like a cockroach! Her super huge eyes creeps me out and the eyes from the characters of Kanon as well hence why I have never had an interest in watching either Clannad or Kannon. Look at this puni~ The detail to her body is leaps and bounds the quality of any of the character designs in the cartoons you posted. The eyes and hair have way more detail as well. She is full figured and it shows in her proportions, unlike the character designs of Steven Universe. If that clearly represents adult Steven, I hope a two year old drew it. It is a very simplified interpretation of that man. And those super huge eyes creeps you out, but the dot for eyes of Adventure Time don't? Gardevoir is simplistic, but you can tell how feminine it is. Same with Jinx as well as Mr. Mime. If moe characters are just walking eyes, the Steven Universe characters are walking blobs molded into deaigns, as there is no shading whatsoever. And I encourage you to recreate those simple faced, walking eyes anime characters~ |
@l0li_m0e_ya0i DC female characters drawn by Phil Bourassa and Pizzazz look way more realistic than that facially. That's what I dislike about female ecchi anime characters. They have nice bodies but their faces are too simplistic and cutesy . Also no one irl has eyes SO HUGE.  I would like to see you draw a better interpretation of him then.No they don't because they aren't super huge staring at me like dolls eyes (well not all the time). Gardevoir is feminine in shape but it doesn't look like an animated female human character. Pearl looks far more like an animated female human character than gardevoir and jinx. LOL so shading = shape now, hilarious. Thought they were 2 different things. |
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DrGeroCreation said: @l0li_m0e_ya0i DC female characters drawn by Phil Bourassa and Pizzazz look way more realistic than that facially. That's what I dislike about female ecchi anime characters. They have nice bodies but their faces are too simplistic and cutesy . Also no one irl has eyes SO HUGE. I would like to see you draw a better interpretation of him then.No they don't because they aren't super huge staring at me like dolls eyes (well not all the time). Gardevoir is feminine in shape but it doesn't look like an animated female human character. Pearl looks far more like an animated female human character than gardevoir and jinx. LOL so shading = shape now, hilarious. Thought they were 2 different things. The artwork in Steven Universe is an upgrade from stick figure. Also cuteness is Japan's sexy, while western sexy is what you have linked above. Never said shading equals shape, just that Steven Universe characters models are simply shaped with little to no shading. The design is rather underwhelming. For you to complain of anime's artistic laziness and then praise the designs of Steven Universe is just...silly to me, that's all. I can respect your disdain of it, but it's a slight double standard on your part. |
| @l0li_m0e_ya0i LOL first they are blobs now stick figures, make up your mind and I don't see you perfectly being able to draw them. Anime mixes cute and sexy (called ero kawaii) while western cartoons clearly differentiates between cute and sexy. I rather the latter. Cute and sexy are two different things. Design being underwhelming is your subjective opinion and simple designs does not equal amorphous so you are misusing that word to describe them and also your comparison of them to Wabbufett who is actually amorphous is fallacious.My post included background designs of Steven Universe not praising the character designs however I do believe Steven Universe has more diverse character designs than Clannad. Such as different shaped and designed noses, different chins, greater diversity in body shape and design. Western cartoons in general have greater diversity in character design than anime. In late night anime you would be hard pressed to find uniquely designed chins like these. Also anime fans are the hypocrites for attacking cartoons for not looking realistic yet have no problem with unrealistic moe girl characters with their super huge eyes , no nose and lips. Human beings don't naturally have eyes like this.  |
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DrGeroCreation said: @l0li_m0e_ya0i LOL first they are blobs now stick figures, make up your mind and I don't see you perfectly being able to draw them. Anime mixes cute and sexy (called ero kawaii) while western cartoons clearly differentiates between cute and sexy. I rather the latter. Cute and sexy are two different things. Design being underwhelming is your subjective opinion and simple designs does not equal amorphous so you are misusing that word to describe them and also your comparison of them to Wabbufett who is actually amorphous. My post included background designs of Steven Universe not praising the character designs however I do believe Steven Universe has more diverse character designs than Clannad. Such as different shaped and designed noses, different chins, greater diversity in body shape and design. Western cartoons in general have greater diversity in general character design than anime. In late night anime you would be hard pressed to find uniquely designed chins like these. Also anime fans are the hypocrites for attacking cartoons for not looking realistic yet have no problem with unrealistic moe girl characters with their super huge eyes , no nose and lips. So you hate roach eyes, but like ass chins? *cue oujou-sama laugh* I watch cartoons and as I have said, I can respect your cartoon fetish, I just find it ironic that you can dispise anime art for simple noses and mouths when most cartoons do the exact same chiz. Steve's lip is still a line and his teeth have no spaces. No realism whatsoever, despite you requiring such things to even watch an anime. So make up your mind. You either require realistic character designs or you don't and just hate moe anime for doing what cartoons do, but better. I don't require animation to look realistic, you do, as you have previously stated. And are you possibly the type that is into women with muscle? Gero-san sugoii~♡ |
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DrGeroCreation said: l0li_m0e_ya0i said: They are far less simplistic than the amorphous pokemon you posted. Also next time use your dictionary before using words. The Steven Universe characters can't be amorphous if you can tell they look like simplified human characters. Steven Universe as an adult clearly resembling Steven Sugar (who he is based on)whether it be simplistic or not shows that he isn't amorphous. If something is amorphous you wouldn't be able to tell what it is for example Wobbuffett and Gardevoir. You can't clearly tell what they are supposed to resemble irl. As I said before the Steven Universe characters have noses, hands, fingers, legs. They are far more defined than those Pokemon. Also I would like to see you perfectly recreate them to the t if they are so easy to draw. Moe characters are as simplistic as can be facially. Facially they are just walking pairs of eyes.Oh my gosh, the similarity is uncanny~ The character clothing has no shading whatsoever, there are no lights in their eyes, and their body shapes are drawn in the simplest way possible. You say that Steven is designed after a real guy, but he is a heavily simplified animated interpretation. The same with anime. You can tell it's a pretty girl, but will you ever find someone like them in real life? No. The characters in Steven Universe can be drawn just as easily as Wobbufett, as they are simple designs. Anime can work the same way, of course. Also both Ranma 1/2 and Queen's Blade use the simple nose and mouth method. Make up your mind silly, you either hate the way it's designed or you don't. Perhaps you just simply overlook it when it's your favorite anime. The original Queen's Blade anime has female characters with noses and lips. Chiibi said: Her double strand antenna hair , huge eyes and no nose makes her look like a human cockroach. Cockroaches have huge eyes, antenna and no nose.Whaaaaaaaaaat don't be mean to Nagisa. Cockroaches are HIDEOUS things; if I see one, I will scream and try to kill it. Nagisa's just CUTE. D: She doesn't look anything like a cockroach! Nagisa certainly DOES have a nose. Can't you see the dot!? That is her nose. .......and you tell me I need glasses.....sheesh. That thing is gross. She doesn't look like that. Also no one irl has eyes SO HUGE. No one irl looks anything like the people in Adventure Time or Steven Universe either. You could stab a steak with Pearl's nose. Does that make you like her any less? |
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l0li_m0e_ya0i said: DrGeroCreation said: @l0li_m0e_ya0i DC female characters drawn by Phil Bourassa and Pizzazz look way more realistic than that facially. That's what I dislike about female ecchi anime characters. They have nice bodies but their faces are too simplistic and cutesy . Also no one irl has eyes SO HUGE. I would like to see you draw a better interpretation of him then.No they don't because they aren't super huge staring at me like dolls eyes (well not all the time). Gardevoir is feminine in shape but it doesn't look like an animated female human character. Pearl looks far more like an animated female human character than gardevoir and jinx. LOL so shading = shape now, hilarious. Thought they were 2 different things. The artwork in Steven Universe is an upgrade from stick figure. Also cuteness is Japan's sexy, while western sexy is what you have linked above. Never said shading equals shape, just that Steven Universe characters models are simply shaped with little to no shading. The design is rather underwhelming. For you to complain of anime's artistic laziness and then praise the designs of Steven Universe is just...silly to me, that's all. I can respect your disdain of it, but it's a slight double standard on your part. Steven Universe is meant to be this simplistic. Western animation is very minimalistic, especially in comic cartoons. The purpose is to create funny looking characters. And yes, some of us consider cute=sexy. The tough girl look is tiring. |
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flannan said: *Sob* 1 cour *sob* T_Tstarlessn1ght said: I also did not like the first episode. Nor the eps until the 25th. That time it shifted 180 degree and holy shit it became really awesome. Like, flat characters being developed and becoming three-dimensional, the plot taking shape and getting me hooked, the answers to the questions appearing and more questions being raised. I just watched until the 25th because people said it would get better. And it did. 25 episodes until a show gets good? That's horrible, most anime are over at this point! DrGeroCreation said: that killed me just a lil. Oppai!!!!I like anime but dislike how eyes are the only facial feature that matters for female characters. |
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l0li_m0e_ya0i said: I have no idea what ass chins you are talking about. LOL liking cartoons = having a cartoon fetish? I'm not despising but showing the hypocrisy of condemning cartoon characters for not being realistic yet anime characters also don't look realistic. Also like the majority of superhero cartoons the female characters have noses and lips unlike in anime. Never said I needed realism to watch anime or animation in general, stop making up fairy tales . I have no problem with either realistic or unrealistic character designs however I'm not a big fan of the overuse of the moe character design where the female characters are just walking eyes. Western cartoons for me do cute better by actually having lips or noses or both included for the characters and eyes don't have to be super large and round. So you hate roach eyes, but like ass chins? *cue oujou-sama laugh* I watch cartoons and as I have said, I can respect your cartoon fetish, I just find it ironic that you can dispise anime art for simple noses and mouths when most cartoons do the exact same chiz. Steve's lip is still a line and his teeth have no spaces. No realism whatsoever, despite you requiring such things to even watch an anime. So make up your mind. You either require realistic character designs or you don't and just hate moe anime for doing what cartoons do, but better. I don't require animation to look realistic, you do, as you have previously stated. And are you possibly the type that is into women with muscle? Gero-san sugoii~♡ Example I don't necessarily hate the moe character design because there are certain female anime characters I like with it but find it too overused. It's non of your business and not relevant to this thread but I'm attracted to women of different body types with the exceptions of morbidly obese, anorexic, super skinny and super muscular. TheBrainintheJar said: The cutesy look can be as well.The tough girl look is tiring. Chiibi said: Dots are not noses. She looks like a humanoid anime version of it. Never said that people irl do look like those characters although Steven Universe (the cartoon character) as an adult bore striking resemblance to the irl person Steven Sugar that he's based on.Nagisa certainly DOES have a nose. Can't you see the dot!? That is her nose. .......and you tell me I need glasses.....sheesh. That thing is gross. She doesn't look like that. No one irl looks anything like the people in Adventure Time or Steven Universe either. You could stab a steak with Pearl's nose. Does that make you like her any less? |
DrGeroCreationMar 26, 2016 10:46 PM
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DrGeroCreation said: l0li_m0e_ya0i said: I have no idea what ass chins you are talking about. LOL liking cartoons = having a cartoon fetish? I'm not despising but showing the hypocrisy of condemning cartoon characters for not being realistic yet anime characters also don't look realistic. Also like the majority of superhero cartoons the female characters have noses and lips unlike in anime. Never said I needed realism to watch anime or animation in general, stop making up fairy tales . I have no problem with either realistic or unrealistic character designs however I'm not a big fan of the overuse of the moe character design where the female characters are just walking eyes. Western cartoons for me do cute better by actually having lips or noses or both included for the characters and eyes don't have to be super large and round. So you hate roach eyes, but like ass chins? *cue oujou-sama laugh* I watch cartoons and as I have said, I can respect your cartoon fetish, I just find it ironic that you can dispise anime art for simple noses and mouths when most cartoons do the exact same chiz. Steve's lip is still a line and his teeth have no spaces. No realism whatsoever, despite you requiring such things to even watch an anime. So make up your mind. You either require realistic character designs or you don't and just hate moe anime for doing what cartoons do, but better. I don't require animation to look realistic, you do, as you have previously stated. And are you possibly the type that is into women with muscle? Gero-san sugoii~♡ Example I don't necessarily hate the moe character design because there are certain female anime characters I like with it but find it too overused. It's non of your business and not relevant to this thread but I'm attracted to women of different body types with the exceptions of morbidly obese, anorexic, super skinny and super muscular. TheBrainintheJar said: The cutesy look can be as well.The tough girl look is tiring. Chiibi said: Dots are not noses. She looks like a humanoid anime version of it. Never said that people irl do look like those characters although Steven Universe (the cartoon character) as an adult bore striking resemblance to the irl person Steven Sugar that he's based on.Nagisa certainly DOES have a nose. Can't you see the dot!? That is her nose. .......and you tell me I need glasses.....sheesh. That thing is gross. She doesn't look like that. No one irl looks anything like the people in Adventure Time or Steven Universe either. You could stab a steak with Pearl's nose. Does that make you like her any less? But the thread is about people who like American cartoons, but hate Japanese ones, which is of course their choice as much as it is yours. You said you hate moe art because of its simplicity in the facial area, yet refuse to acknowledge the same inconsistencies in the cartoons you listed previously. As far as you are concerned, as long as a character model has a nose and chin, they are a superior art form to that of moe art, regardless of lack of details elsewhere. You are the only one who requires these realistic qualities in order to watch anime, but can set aside the rules for cartoons. Which again, is your choice. And yes, moe is at the peak of it's reign so it will continue rearing it's adorable head. However, couldn't say the same for the western side? Since you can't be convinced of the lack of intricate design that is consistent through most western anation, look instead at the characters. They all follow the hyper energetic, dude/bro types that are all the rage with their current audience. Then the superheroes range from reserved, tough, witty, and stoic. It's almost like western cartoons are pandering just as much to their audiences as Japanese cartoons do. And you keep saying walking eyes, at least they sexy walking eyes and not walking shapes*tsun~* Gotta love your honesty, I was clearly jesting with the "is that your type" thing~ |
DrGeroCreation said: Dots are not noses. Yes, they are. Any shape can be a nose. If the artist tells you that's a nose, it's a nose. Disney puts squashy tomatoes on comic relief characters....so what makes those "noses"? Because it's in the middle of the face, where a nose should be. She looks like a humanoid anime version of it. No, Nagisa does not look like a cockroach. She looks like a girl with large eyes and small facial features. |
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l0li_m0e_ya0i said: I don't like American cartoons and hate anime. I like any animation regardless of country of origin. What I refused to acknowledge is your incorrect claim that the characters are amorphous like Wabbufett. I do believe facial features which includes lips not just noses and chins are more important than shading. I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT, stop spouting lies. Overuse of the moe character design causes reduction in the variety of character designs for characters. That's why in anime a female character must have the moe character design to be considered cute while in western cartoons other types of character designs can be used to show cuteness. A good example is DCAU Supergirl who is a cute/sexy character thus equivalent to anime's ero kawaii but a design different from the typical anime moe character is used for her.But the thread is about people who like American cartoons, but hate Japanese ones, which is of course their choice as much as it is yours. You said you hate moe art because of its simplicity in the facial area, yet refuse to acknowledge the same inconsistencies in the cartoons you listed previously. As far as you are concerned, as long as a character model has a nose and chin, they are a superior art form to that of moe art, regardless of lack of details elsewhere. You are the only one who requires these realistic qualities in order to watch anime, but can set aside the rules for cartoons. Which again, is your choice. And yes, moe is at the peak of it's reign so it will continue rearing it's adorable head. However, couldn't say the same for the western side? Since you can't be convinced of the lack of intricate design that is consistent through most western anation, look instead at the characters. They all follow the hyper energetic, dude/bro types that are all the rage with their current audience. Then the superheroes range from reserved, tough, witty, and stoic. It's almost like western cartoons are pandering just as much to their audiences as Japanese cartoons do. And you keep saying walking eyes, at least they sexy walking eyes and not walking shapes*tsun~* Gotta love your honesty, I was clearly jesting with the "is that your type" thing~ There are cartoon characters who are not hyper energetic, don't say dude or bro and superheroes who aren't reserved, tough, witty, stoic. I don't find anything sexy about this...  sorry. Chiibi said: No they aren't. Dots are the laziest way to depict a nose. I don't watch Disney animated movies so I don't know about that. A nose like that though would represent a bulbous nose which exists in real life.Yes, they are. Any shape can be a nose. If the artist tells you that's a nose, it's a nose. Disney puts squashy tomatoes on comic relief characters....so what makes those "noses"? Because it's in the middle of the face, where a nose should be. Chiibi said: The specific two strand antenna hair and large eyes give her the appearance of a human/cockroach hybrid. That's just my interpretation though you are free to believe otherwise.No, Nagisa does not look like a cockroach. She looks like a girl with large eyes and small facial features. |
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DrGeroCreation said: l0li_m0e_ya0i said: I don't like American cartoons and hate anime. I like any animation regardless of country of origin. What I refused to acknowledge is your incorrect claim that the characters are amorphous like Wabbufett. I do believe facial features which includes lips not just noses and chins are more important than shading. I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT, stop spouting lies. Overuse of the moe character design causes reduction in the variety of character designs for characters. That's why in anime a female character must have the moe character design to be considered cute while in western cartoons other types of character designs can be used to show cuteness. A good example is DCAU Supergirl who is a cute/sexy character thus equivalent to anime's ero kawaii but a design different from the typical anime moe character is used for her.But the thread is about people who like American cartoons, but hate Japanese ones, which is of course their choice as much as it is yours. You said you hate moe art because of its simplicity in the facial area, yet refuse to acknowledge the same inconsistencies in the cartoons you listed previously. As far as you are concerned, as long as a character model has a nose and chin, they are a superior art form to that of moe art, regardless of lack of details elsewhere. You are the only one who requires these realistic qualities in order to watch anime, but can set aside the rules for cartoons. Which again, is your choice. And yes, moe is at the peak of it's reign so it will continue rearing it's adorable head. However, couldn't say the same for the western side? Since you can't be convinced of the lack of intricate design that is consistent through most western anation, look instead at the characters. They all follow the hyper energetic, dude/bro types that are all the rage with their current audience. Then the superheroes range from reserved, tough, witty, and stoic. It's almost like western cartoons are pandering just as much to their audiences as Japanese cartoons do. And you keep saying walking eyes, at least they sexy walking eyes and not walking shapes*tsun~* Gotta love your honesty, I was clearly jesting with the "is that your type" thing~ There are cartoon characters who are not hyper energetic, don't say dude or bro and superheroes who aren't reserved, tough, witty, stoic. I don't find anything sexy about this... sorry. Ero-kawaii? Super Girl? No, no, my friend. She is what one would call Barbie as a super hero. If anything is overused, it's that Barbie doll design used anytime the west is trying to take itself seriously with animation. This fan art depicts the Steven Universe characters as Pokemon, as both character designs appeal easily to a younger demographic. Simple, yet cute. Like Wobuffet and any other Pokémon. The landscape design may be pretty, but the character design is nothing to rave about. And it shouldn't be, kids don't care about such things after all, they just want to laugh. Preferences, preferences. That character is meant to be more cute than anything else, but you never know, this may be somebody's special grill~ Kind of like you and Super Girl, you know? Plus she's not even in ero kawaii mode anyway, so how are you supposed to find her sexy? In order for something to qualify as ero kawaii, the character has to be so sexy it's almost obscene but then so innocently cute it makes it all okay, like this~  |
@l0li_m0e_ya0i Supergirl is nothing like Barbie also show me all the female characters that have a barbie character design. LMAO whatever that means. She (DCAU Supergirl) is very ero kawaii for me especially based on the hentai I've seen of her.She isn't cutesy and timid but spunky, smiley and can be seductive. The Pokemon fanart looks NOTHING like the actual characters and proves nothing. Hell there is also fanart of the Steven Universe characters with the generic anime style where Steven looks like the typical shy loser ecchi harem protagonist and Pearl looks like any moe anime girl The character design has a lot of variety instead of the copy paste type of character designs you see in seasonal anime. Lol there is no way I would find that above anime girl sexy. Her eyes are far too large like the Kanon and Clannad characters to be appealing to me. So just big eyes and big tits are needed for ero kawaii basically. |
DrGeroCreationMar 29, 2016 9:23 PM
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DrGeroCreation said: No they aren't. Dots are the laziest way to depict a nose. I don't watch Disney animated movies so I don't know about that. A nose like that though would represent a bulbous nose which exists in real life. Yes, they are. Lazy? I don't think it's about laziness. I think it's about how the artist [i]wants[/] to draw the nose. A lot of them don't draw a larger nose because they don't like the way it looks (yours truly, actually) I draw my characters with tiny noses. If I draw a bigger nose, I don't like it and end up erasing it. Tomato noses don't exist in real life. It's an exaggeration of a bulbous nose, thus a dot nose is the exaggeration of a tiny nose. Same concept. |
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| @Chiibi A small nose can be shown without it just being a dot. A dot for a nose is pure laziness. |
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DrGeroCreation said: @l0li_m0e_ya0i Supergirl is nothing like Barbie also show me all the female characters that have a barbie character design. LMAO whatever that means. She (DCAU Supergirl) is very ero kawaii for me especially based on the hentai I've seen of her.She isn't cutesy and timid but spunky, smiley and can be seductive. The Pokemon fanart looks NOTHING like the actual characters and proves nothing. Hell there is also fanart of the Steven Universe characters with the generic anime style where Steven looks like the typical shy loser ecchi harem protagonist and Pearl looks like any moe anime girl The character design has a lot of variety instead of the copy paste type of character designs you see in seasonal anime. Lol there is no way I would find that above anime girl sexy. Her eyes are far too large like the Kanon and Clannad characters to be appealing to me. So just big eyes and big tits are needed for ero kawaii basically. No, those sexy but cute grills I posted before are ero kawaii. And Eriri doesn't have big boobs, hence why she is showcasing her other asset~ They can have any body shape, just as long as they are ecchi and kawaii at the same time. Wow, that anime make over should be given to the original show~♡ Um, I already know Supergirl/Barbie is your type. I just said that the girl you posted before could be SOMEONE'S best grill. #TEAM BARBIE By the way, Mr. Realism, why isn't her inner ear detailed? I hope that lipstick is matte, because her lips have no shine. And...she has no pupils. And I thought moe art was the one that lacked facial design. No hair strands or shading either. Rather lazy if you ask me. |
I find that cockroach mutant to be cute. Guess I'm just a defective weeaboo hitler-satan, because I have different opinions. |
| @l0li_m0e_ya0i She is the only one the others have big boobs and all of them have big eyes. Hell no, if that happened I would stop watching it. Just by how Steven lokks I can tell it would be some shitty forgettable ecchi harem. Just because she has blond hair and blue eyes doesn't make her look like Barbie , if we go by that logic then Naruto looks like Barbie and I'm waiting on all these so called characters that have a Barbie design you are talking about. Her long hair would get in the way so detailing the ear wouldn't matter and pupils don't matter. Noses and lips matter more. It probably is I'm not an expert on that though. Dot for nose and no lips at all are lazier. Also it's interesting how you are only posting promo art and not screenshots from the actual anime unlike me . Anyway here's another version of her with the inner ear , lip gloss and pupils while also having this strange thing called a nose.  Lobinde said: I don't think so. You would need to be a satanist who only likes anime and other Japanese stuff and hate your country, change your name to Hitler to become like that. Have different opinions wouldn't cause you to become that I assure you.I find that cockroach mutant to be cute. Guess I'm just a defective weeaboo hitler-satan, because I have different opinions. |
DrGeroCreationMar 30, 2016 5:28 AM
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| Oh, shit its DrGeroCreation. Have you shaved your neckbeard? |
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I'm pretty sure he doesn't dislike anime, considering he's watched 187 series. |
| I don't have a neckbeard. Female colleagues and friends have told me I look the best while clean shaven or with some stubble so I refrain from having a neckbeard. Why should I get off Mal if I like cartoons when Mal is all about Japanese cartoons? |
DrGeroCreationMar 30, 2016 5:56 AM
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DrGeroCreation said: I don't have a neckbeard. Female colleagues and friends have told me I look the best while clean shaven or with some stubble so I refrain from having a neckbeard. Why should I get off Mal if I like cartoons when Mal is all about Japanese cartoons? The fact that you are Steven Universe fanboy proves that you are lying. |
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| considering that most of my friends kinda prefer cartoons over anime because of the excessive fanservice + moeshit in the latter, it's completely understandable. |
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DrGeroCreation said: @l0li_m0e_ya0i She is the only one the others have big boobs and all of them have big eyes. Hell no, if that happened I would stop watching it. Just by how Steven lokks I can tell it would be some shitty forgettable ecchi harem. Just because she has blond hair and blue eyes doesn't make her look like Barbie , if we go by that logic then Naruto looks like Barbie and I'm waiting on all these so called characters that have a Barbie design you are talking about. Her long hair would get in the way so detailing the ear wouldn't matter and pupils don't matter. Noses and lips matter more. It probably is I'm not an expert on that though. Dot for nose and no lips at all are lazier. Also it's interesting how you are only posting promo art and not screenshots from the actual anime unlike me . Anyway here's another version of her with the inner ear , lip gloss and pupils while also having this strange thing called a nose. Lobinde said: I don't think so. You would need to be a satanist who only likes anime and other Japanese stuff and hate your country, change your name to Hitler to become like that. Have different opinions wouldn't cause you to become that I assure you.I find that cockroach mutant to be cute. Guess I'm just a defective weeaboo hitler-satan, because I have different opinions. You're the one who said it takes big breasts to be ero kawaii. And surely you don't think those lovely ladies are the only representation do you~? Seeing that the term stems from anime culture, of course Japanese cartoons (big eyes) would be involved. But you posted the other super girl before, not this one. Now she looks like more grown up Barbie. Cute, but this trumps it by miles~ Now that is a Super Girl I could get behind~♡ And the other women in DC share Barbie's hour glass figure (anorexic waist line to boot) just with added muscle. Not surprising, tho, since Barbie is considered America's ideal fictional beauty. The hour glass shape is beautiful, but it looks silly and cartoonish when done the Barbie way. Disney also does this with it's princesses. They are pretty, but can't beat the puni that is anime~♡ Cookie cutter body shapes are a staple of super heroes, so it is only natural they would all be shaped the same. They exist to give kids hopes and dreams. |
DrGeroCreation said: I don't have a neckbeard. Female colleagues and friends have told me I look the best while clean shaven or with some stubble so I refrain from having a neckbeard. Why should I get off Mal if I like cartoons when Mal is all about Japanese cartoons? I think this thread should now be about DrGeroCreation's beard. |
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| I think the reason why most western 2D animation nowadays looks like, well, stuff you would see edgy teenagers make on Newgrounds is because of cultural differences. Generally speaking westerners don't care for animation on the whole, and will usually only watch animated stuff if they are drawn in enough by the comedy or writing. Whereas generally speaking Japanese people don't care as much about writing and want animations to look at least moderately impressive on a technical level instead. There is no superior outlook here (apart from stuff like GiTS, which manages to have both style and substance), it's just culture shock on both sides. |
DrGeroCreation said: @Chiibi A small nose can be shown without it just being a dot. A dot for a nose is pure laziness. No, it is not laziness. It has nothing to do with laziness. Didn't you hear me? I don't draw bigger noses because I don't like the way it looks. Are you an artist? If you're not, then you would not understand. If I sound irritated, you're right because I'll tolerate being called many things but "lazy" isn't one of them just because I WANT to draw something a certain way.....ok? Not finishing your coloring is lazy. Not putting in shadows is lazy. Not making sure everything is in proportion is lazy. Drawing a face the way you WANT to draw the face is NOT lazy. Just because she has blond hair and blue eyes doesn't make her look like Barbie The faces are really similar, mainly the shapes of the eyes, noses, lips, etc. I can see where loli_moe is coming from. It's a very " fashion doll-like" look...and that goes for a LOT of how the females of comic books are drawn. I've never really liked the fashion doll character design, personally. |
ChiibiMar 30, 2016 8:11 PM
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Lobinde said: I think the reason why most western 2D animation nowadays looks like, well, stuff you would see edgy teenagers make on Newgrounds is because of cultural differences. Generally speaking westerners don't care for animation on the whole, and will usually only watch animated stuff if they are drawn in enough by the comedy or writing. Whereas generally speaking Japanese people don't care as much about writing and want animations to look at least moderately impressive on a technical level instead. There is no superior outlook here (apart from stuff like GiTS, which manages to have both style and substance), it's just culture shock on both sides. What kind of Western animation? I do agree that the people who flock to Family Guy and South Park don't really care about animation. They're in it for the 'writing' (which is crap but forget it). However, the quality of the art is one of the most praised factors in Pixar films. Pixar attract a slightly different audience though. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: Lobinde said: I think the reason why most western 2D animation nowadays looks like, well, stuff you would see edgy teenagers make on Newgrounds is because of cultural differences. Generally speaking westerners don't care for animation on the whole, and will usually only watch animated stuff if they are drawn in enough by the comedy or writing. Whereas generally speaking Japanese people don't care as much about writing and want animations to look at least moderately impressive on a technical level instead. There is no superior outlook here (apart from stuff like GiTS, which manages to have both style and substance), it's just culture shock on both sides. What kind of Western animation? I do agree that the people who flock to Family Guy and South Park don't really care about animation. They're in it for the 'writing' (which is crap but forget it). However, the quality of the art is one of the most praised factors in Pixar films. Pixar attract a slightly different audience though. Oh I was referring to 2D western animation, because that can be more fairly compared to japanese animation, as most japanese animation is still 2D (might not be for much longer tho). And in particular I was referring to modern western 2D animation, so stuff such as Family Guy, Steven Universe, Adventure Time and other shows which were criticised in this thread for having "noodle limbs" and such. Pixar films are CG, and since CGI animation is still relatively new, westerners still seem to care about it. |
ArdenFolgore said: DrGeroCreation said: I don't have a neckbeard. Female colleagues and friends have told me I look the best while clean shaven or with some stubble so I refrain from having a neckbeard. Why should I get off Mal if I like cartoons when Mal is all about Japanese cartoons? The fact that you are Steven Universe fanboy proves that you are lying. You watch anime but mock people for watching cartoons? The lack of self awareness is strong with this one. |
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Bobby2Hands said: You watch anime but mock people for watching cartoons? The lack of self awareness is strong with this one. Yeah. Good luck with that. |
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ArdenFolgore said: Bobby2Hands said: You watch anime but mock people for watching cartoons? The lack of self awareness is strong with this one. Yeah. Good luck with that. Good luck with what? Deciphering what the connection is between Russian Winnie the Pooh and cartoons for Stoners? |
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Bobby2Hands said: Good luck with what? Deciphering what the connection is between Russian Winnie the Pooh and cartoons for Stoners? You know nothing Uncle Bobi. Get better. |
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| How so? What's the correlation between being a Steven Universe fan and having a neck beard? I really don't think cartoons influence facial hair growth. Jokes on you buddy because you watch cartoons too. |
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DrGeroCreation said: How so? What's the correlation between being a Steven Universe fan and having a neck beard? I really don't think cartoons influence facial hair growth. Jokes on you buddy because you watch chinese cartoons too. You and Uncle Bobi are made for each other. |
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