Basic Game V6: Kitty Mafia | Game End - Mafia Win!

Shinichi-Kun said:


@pentaflare so ur ok taking riks that come from denja plan but wont risk lynching grrr wth?

U rather fllow denja before understanding him when u even stated theiris too much uncernatiy

U even point out hes the kind of person to ebnefit off of a mislynch yet your ok with this kind of plan.

Somethng is seriously off here

Did we all forget what claire did or has that just been shoved under a bus?

Crossbell said:
I acknowledge that some scum could be pocketing me, but ALL of the scum can't. SOME scum must be in my PoE pile.

I literally answered your question about the vote on your Day 2 - basically, I didn't want my vote to be off in the Middle of Nowhere, and Grapefruit was more town over you.

I only answered some of the questions from D2 because some of them were a little outdated. I can go back and answer them again?

I'm not trying to avoid your questions.

Shinichi-Kun said:


Ill just keep watching the votes the scumwill reveal thesselves based on who gets voted from now on. Everyone thats so easily ok with denja plan is either town being manipulated or mafia.

logic340 said:
@RE1031 , @DenjaX, and @Shinichi-kun we're in a world where we are all town. Let's say you guys are just having an ideological difference (denja and shin). Me, Shin, Denja, RE are all town in this world. We can lynch scum. Lets talk about Penta/Follow and Denja's plan as our last resort for today?

PentaFlare said:

I won't lynch grrr because grrr can still vote. Lamb can't vote. Mislynched grrr would make us lose because that is a town vote gone. Where di I say that he is the kind of person to benefit from a mislynch? That's really putting words in my mouth.

Crossbell said:
Denja's plan to lynch Lamby is solid and I like it as a backup plan, but I'm pretty sure that Lamby will be replaced or modkilled before that happens.

I'm getting on the bus though, I'll post more after.

logic340 said:
So what are we going to discuss?

logic340 said:
Why can't Lam-B vote? There is plenty of time before the phase ends. Who's to say that grrr comes back and actually does something useful with his vote. Right now it's not on scum so there's that...

PentaFlare said:

If Lamby isn't online, Lamby can't vote. That's why there will be no vote from that slot and it is okay to extract all possible information from it.

logic340 said:
Including early suspicions
My case is for today
Extremely narrow suspect pool
Me and Cross top suspects
Cross town read
No vote for me until provoked
Doesn't seem to be interested in scum hunting this phase

My Penta vote

logic340 said:
Lam-B was online this morning.

logic340 said:
@PentaFlare what inside information do you have that tells you Lam won't be back to vote but grrr will?

Shinichi-Kun said:
I think people forget how mannipulative players like denja and penta can be.

RE1031 said:
unvote
Right now Denja and Penta are looking way more scummy than Crossbell. I really hope that Lam-b does get replaced/modkilled and that happens before EoD.

PentaFlare said:

This all makes no sense. You can't scumread someone for changing their kind after reevaluating. That's the opposite of scummy. If I tunnelled Cross after finding reasons to think he was town that would be scummy. Not changing my mind. Cross isn't my top suspect. Cross is outside of my PoE pool right now. What makes you think my suspect pool is narrow, because I said I wanted to lynch someone I had a developed scumread on instead of someone questionable? I explicitly stated my vote for you was just fun because of your overthinking comment. How am I not scum hunting? Was looking into Cross, my top suspect, not scum hunting?

Your read is based on points that are provably false. You are trying to make me look bad when I am not. You have acted suspicious of me this game, but only if I built a case on you with your main suspicion being my case on you. Literally OMGUS. This isn't how you determine a read on someone, this is self preservation.

PentaFlare said:

Tell me what is wrong with Denja's Plan. You don't want free information?

RE1031 said:

Free information is voting for active players and reading their responses. Not voting for an inactive player and calling it a day.

logic340 said:
It's omgus then but I believe it's on the mafia at this point. You've stifled all my attempts to discuss options with you this phase. I'm tired why would town do that? They wouldn't so I ask myself who are you protecting? You've stalled me out for more than half the phase. It's s serious vote.

PentaFlare said:

We get a flip on an inactive. That is information. The cost? Nothing. There is no vote coming from that slot. What part of this logic do you not understand?

RE1031 said:

Free information is voting for active players and reading their responses. Not voting for an inactive player and calling it a day.

RE1031 said:

Then why are you so eager to do it asap?

PentaFlare said:

What do you mean by ASAP? It will happen at the end of the phase. This is the only phase it can happen. This action only benefits town. There is no reason to not do it.

RE1031 said:
vote: PentaFlare
Throughout this game, you've never actually been put in a tight spot. I've made blatant theories about you and Denja being a team, and you've chosen to ignore them. The thing between you and Claire was settled far too quickly.

RE1031 said:

Free information is voting for active players and reading their responses. Not voting for an inactive player and calling it a day.

DenjaX said:
so if we mislynch town and Lamb modkilled as town, then what?

logic340 said:
wrong...if we lynch scum today we can use this tactic tomorrow if need be.We have an inactive follow you refuse to discuss.

logic340 said:
I'd be more satisfied with that than sitting here doing nothing for the next 19 hours. That's not fair to Kit and Gruffin.

PentaFlare said:

I will discuss follow with anyone who is not you, or I will discuss it with you if I stop having to respond to post after post and can finish my own analysis.

The problem with your logic is that there is no point in delaying the tactic. We need to have as much certainty as possible when hitting scum with our first scum targeted lynch. The lynch on Lamby gives us more information to use in that lynch. It might even hit scum.

logic340 said:
I'd be more satisfied with that than sitting here doing nothing for the next 19 hours. That's not fair to Kit and Gruffin.

DenjaX said:
wrong. The correct answer is scum already won at that point. It is not fair for town.

logic340 said:
Fair is we've had our chances you don't stop discussion to lynch lam when follow is in the same boat today? You talk to Penta about Follow for me please. I'm going Afk for a while

PentaFlare said:

What do you mean by ASAP? It will happen at the end of the phase. This is the only phase it can happen. This action only benefits town. There is no reason to not do it.

PentaFlare said:

We are clearly not sitting around doing nothing. There is nothing stopping us from looking at players just because we are voting for Lamb. It is just like a night phase. There aren't votes then. We still talk.

You would be more satisfied with a town loss than using a valid strategy to win ad town. Is that your favourite phrase "truth in plain sight"

logic340 said:
Fair is we've had our chances you don't stop discussion to lynch lam when follow is in the same boat today? You talk to Penta about Follow for me please. I'm going Afk for a while

RE1031 said:

Yeah, but you are killing discussion by settling for it now. The only thing I've seen from you that discusses something other than lynching Lam-b is lynching logic, which happened prior.
Also, you and DenjaClaire have had far too many confrontations. First the thing where Claire claimed cop and that you were scum, and then took it all back, so we were left with the claims that you two were vanilla townies. And then everyone's votes ended up being split between Grape and logic.
And then Denja makes a proposal and you're the first one on it? Manipulative much?

You would be more satisfied with a town loss than using a valid strategy to win ad town. Is that your favourite phrase "truth in plain sight"

PentaFlare said:
logic, you've actively help lead two mislynches. You should not be this confident in you ability to nail scum this phase. Take the free information for what it is. It will help.

PentaFlare said:

I don't see where you are coming from. I tried to lynch Denja with everything I have. As scum, I don't do that to someone on my team.

I was quick to jump on to Denja's plan because he is objectively right. There is no way Denja's plan could benefit scum. They are much more likely to push a mislynch through this phase than next where there will be a smaller pool of suspects.

logic340 said:
Vote Lock
I'll be back after I take over the world....civilization

PentaFlare said:

I don't see where you are coming from. I tried to lynch Denja with everything I have. As scum, I don't do that to someone on my team.

I was quick to jump on to Denja's plan because he is objectively right. There is no way Denja's plan could benefit scum. They are much more likely to push a mislynch through this phase than next where there will be a smaller pool of suspects.

RE1031 said:

If you're killing discussion, then yes, it benefits scum. Do you know Lam-b is scum 100%? If not, then this is a mislynch, and yes, scum will be pushing it. Two dead players for the price of one is nice as well, but scum still risk lynching scum by expanding discussion. 100% one dead townie versus unknown % two dead townies versus unknown % one dead scum. Let's just say the possibility is 50/50 for the unknowns. Will scum take the 100% or the 50%?

DenjaX said:
these probability values came out from which ass is this?