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DenjaX said: Shinichi-Kun said: Well? what did you even find? Personally, this game became a mess just by dwelling on those 2. So I am going to PoE right now. There is nothing much to talk about and there are pending inactive waiting for modkill too.Why? Killing one of the 2 was much easier than waiting for a cop or invest role to out themselves to give results. we learned that it was TOT without wasting a cop check lol, Lamby isnt gonna be mod killed last time i checked he got very busy before the weekend started. |
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logic340 said: Thank you I will take a look. Since Grapefruit flipped town do you think I am scumfirmed? Not necessarily, although I would have much preferred if you were lynched, and not just because Grape flipped town. Honestly, it's kind of Grape's fault he got lynched - this screams repeat of twins where he tunneled on me ridiculously so and ended up getting lynched because of it. Which is why I said day 1 that he was an easy lynch target. However, because the votes were so divided this time around, I think there's a higher chance that you are actually scum. Regarding amberwillow, she definitely got herself in a tight spot by voting Grapefruit last second. It was a bad choice - but bad choices tend to come more from townies because scum are less likely to be caught in making a bad choice. Truth be told, I'm not sure I'm going to make it through the night. I've been on a lot of people's neutral/townie list for too long. |
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DenjaX said: I will be very busy and I cannot be around before phase change so I will choose my target. I am making myself hostage so if I cannot have people join my cult then we deserve to lose. My target is: Die or lose Why did I click spoilers when I could have just clicked quote. So it goes that you die tonight (alongside whoever mafia chooses), and Shinichi-kun we lynch tomorrow? |
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RE1031 said: I am sure we can all come up with reasons why we would be killed by the mafia. I can even think of a few for myself even though I look like prime misynch bait right now.logic340 said: Thank you I will take a look. Since Grapefruit flipped town do you think I am scumfirmed? Not necessarily, although I would have much preferred if you were lynched, and not just because Grape flipped town. Honestly, it's kind of Grape's fault he got lynched - this screams repeat of twins where he tunneled on me ridiculously so and ended up getting lynched because of it. Which is why I said day 1 that he was an easy lynch target. However, because the votes were so divided this time around, I think there's a higher chance that you are actually scum. Regarding amberwillow, she definitely got herself in a tight spot by voting Grapefruit last second. It was a bad choice - but bad choices tend to come more from townies because scum are less likely to be caught in making a bad choice. Truth be told, I'm not sure I'm going to make it through the night. I've been on a lot of people's neutral/townie list for too long. |
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RE1031 said: Nah man. Mafia aint killing me coz I am a lynch fodder. So to solve this, I am gonna tribute myself.Why did I click spoilers when I could have just clicked quote. So it goes that you die tonight (alongside whoever mafia chooses), and Shinichi-kun we lynch tomorrow? If Lamby speaks, kill him first. If he is town, he should know that he has been away for so long that coming back now does not help town at all. |
DenjaX said: RE1031 said: Nah man. Mafia aint killing me coz I am a lynch fodder. So to solve this, I am gonna tribute myself.Why did I click spoilers when I could have just clicked quote. So it goes that you die tonight (alongside whoever mafia chooses), and Shinichi-kun we lynch tomorrow? If Lamby speaks, kill him first. If he is town, he should know that he has been away for so long that coming back now does not help town at all. Well, I fully consent to you tributing yourself. |
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DenjaX said: I will be very busy and I cannot be around before phase change so I will choose my target. I am making myself hostage so if I cannot have people join my cult then we deserve to lose. My target is: Die or lose Your target is another vanilla townie sheehs i had hope for your plan not ik it was meaningless to trust your judgement |
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RE1031 said: Just so you know, I am not going to get myself lynched. There are other ways to tribute myself.Well, I fully consent to you tributing yourself. So I am thinking it is a good thing I say my target now in case Cop wants to verify my target and so. Sollux slot is a questionable slot and whichever angle I look, he always fall under PoE. So next phase should be a mass claim. I will remain afk so you guys can have a debate. I will be watching tho just in case. There should be a doc/jailor and cop/investigave. There shall be no 2 town investigative and 2 town protective in this set-up. A back-up PR is possible but since there was no shooting Night 1 that means it should be not here, unless there are 2 deaths tonight. |
DenjaX said: RE1031 said: Nah man. Mafia aint killing me coz I am a lynch fodder. So to solve this, I am gonna tribute myself.Why did I click spoilers when I could have just clicked quote. So it goes that you die tonight (alongside whoever mafia chooses), and Shinichi-kun we lynch tomorrow? If Lamby speaks, kill him first. If he is town, he should know that he has been away for so long that coming back now does not help town at all. WOah what? If hes town hes town coming back wont cause any harm, lamb isnt the kind of player to come back doing nothing. I will not stand for a lynch of someone just because they've been inactive either give me a rerason to actually lynch lamb next phase or i wont help its simple as that. As for who you wanna push for a lynch which is me idk if ur town or mafia, before i thought u were town, not that im your lynch target its clear i shouldnt be looking at you as just town. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Yo face is meaningless. We can also settle it like this:Your target is another vanilla townie sheehs i had hope for your plan not ik it was meaningless to trust your judgement You afk while I get lynched. How about that? |
Shinichi-Kun said: He has a lot of catching up to do and there is no time for him to do that. He is a baggage. If he is scum that is even better.WOah what? If hes town hes town coming back wont cause any harm, lamb isnt the kind of player to come back doing nothing. I will not stand for a lynch of someone just because they've been inactive either give me a rerason to actually lynch lamb next phase or i wont help its simple as that. As for who you wanna push for a lynch which is me idk if ur town or mafia, before i thought u were town, not that im your lynch target its clear i shouldnt be looking at you as just town. |
DenjaX said: Shinichi-Kun said: Yo face is meaningless. We can also settle it like this:Your target is another vanilla townie sheehs i had hope for your plan not ik it was meaningless to trust your judgement You afk while I get lynched. How about that? no why would i do that i told you if u purposly lurk its not gonna go well for you espically if i get lynched lol. 2nd How will mass claiming help at all? The mafia are just gonna claim vanilla townies lol or counterclaim power roles forcing us into chaos. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: That's what you are doing, helping mafia narrow down PR by claiming Vanilla. It is still night phase and if you are really town, you would have wine yourself or refuse to claim so mafia can night kill you.no why would i do that i told you if u purposly lurk its not gonna go well for you espically if i get lynched lol. 2nd How will mass claiming help at all? The mafia are just gonna claim vanilla townies lol or counterclaim power roles forcing us into chaos. The correct reason is because you are scum. |
DenjaX said: Shinichi-Kun said: That's what you are doing, helping mafia narrow down PR by claiming Vanilla. It is still night phase and if you are really town, you would have wine yourself or refuse to claim so mafia can night kill you.no why would i do that i told you if u purposly lurk its not gonna go well for you espically if i get lynched lol. 2nd How will mass claiming help at all? The mafia are just gonna claim vanilla townies lol or counterclaim power roles forcing us into chaos. The correct reason is because you are scum. so ur idea is to suggest mass claiming? If ur against me claiiming why suggest everyone do it? Everyone that says they're town is hinting that they are vanilla townies so whats ur point. I don't wanna be killed tho i wanna help town find mafia not be lynch fodder so i can leave the game up to crazy theories. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Because you need to look at the timing. It is still night phase. I instigated to do it on next day phase because a counterclaim or two would still be settled on the following day phase in case the fake won the dichotomy. Whereas if we save it until Day 4, it might be too late.so ur idea is to suggest mass claiming? If ur against me claiiming why suggest everyone do it? Everyone that says they're town is hinting that they are vanilla townies so whats ur point. I don't wanna be killed tho i wanna help town find mafia not be lynch fodder so i can leave the game up to crazy theories. What you are doing right now is not helping town. You do not even acknowledge the legitimacy of mass claim. I thought you of all people should know that. Sure we might see town claiming Vanilla but I like to think that they just claim like that so that they will hide themselves from the mafia. You do not even acknowledge that your slot if very questionable and just pull votes like that which I consider it sheeping. The only time I will accept Lamby's return is if he gives a lot of reads (which I doubt) and even if he does, scum coaching will be evident. Or if he is a town PR with actual results. |
logic340 said: grrr said: Good thing is that I found a scum. Followind you get lynched tomorrow no matter if I die or not. Bad thing is that assuming 3 mafia this means we are in lylo. hopefully the doc will be useful. I already given my results so no need to protect me. If there is a second vig. Please don't kill followind. There is 20% chance that he is town and shinichi is mafia. You can shoot logic though. Given that the first vigilante was 2-shot I doubt there is only 2 mafia. so we will have only one chance to get the last one (which may or not be willow >.> ) . @_@ ????? Oh please, I bet even you are surprised that you lasted that long. |
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DenjaX said: Shinichi-Kun said: Because you need to look at the timing. It is still night phase. I instigated to do it on next day phase because a counterclaim or two would still be settled on the following day phase in case the fake won the dichotomy. Whereas if we save it until Day 4, it might be too late.so ur idea is to suggest mass claiming? If ur against me claiiming why suggest everyone do it? Everyone that says they're town is hinting that they are vanilla townies so whats ur point. I don't wanna be killed tho i wanna help town find mafia not be lynch fodder so i can leave the game up to crazy theories. What you are doing right now is not helping town. You do not even acknowledge the legitimacy of mass claim. I thought you of all people should know that. Sure we might see town claiming Vanilla but I like to think that they just claim like that so that they will hide themselves from the mafia. You do not even acknowledge that your slot if very questionable and just pull votes like that which I consider it sheeping. The only time I will accept Lamby's return is if he gives a lot of reads (which I doubt) and even if he does, scum coaching will be evident. Or if he is a town PR with actual results. One thing i do agree on is the possiblity of lamby coaching the mafia team. Well if it was my game i wouldn't even allow night talk so just not used to it being a thing. Also I don't care about the legtimacy of mass claiming, its a crappy/unfair tactic that even as town ill argue against it till it comes to the points its abslutely needed which isnt next phase. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: One thing i do agree on is the possiblity of lamby coaching the mafia team. Well if it was my game i wouldn't even allow night talk so just not used to it being a thing. Also I don't care about the legtimacy of mass claiming, its a crappy/unfair tactic that even as town ill argue against it till it comes to the points its abslutely needed which isnt next phase. Only scum would say it is unfair muehehehe Give me your 3 suspects. |
DenjaX said: Shinichi-Kun said: One thing i do agree on is the possiblity of lamby coaching the mafia team. Well if it was my game i wouldn't even allow night talk so just not used to it being a thing. Also I don't care about the legtimacy of mass claiming, its a crappy/unfair tactic that even as town ill argue against it till it comes to the points its abslutely needed which isnt next phase. Only scum would say it is unfair muehehehe Give me your 3 suspects. LOL im not the only one is ms who against mass claims how does that make me scum. DenjaX said: Shinichi-Kun said: One thing i do agree on is the possiblity of lamby coaching the mafia team. Well if it was my game i wouldn't even allow night talk so just not used to it being a thing. Also I don't care about the legtimacy of mass claiming, its a crappy/unfair tactic that even as town ill argue against it till it comes to the points its abslutely needed which isnt next phase. Only scum would say it is unfair muehehehe Give me your 3 suspects. LOL im not the only one is ms who against mass claims how does that make me scum. Ill anwer that when phase change happens. |
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PentaFlare said: You ain't dying tonight. Mafia needs to kill PR. You are insignificant in their eyes.I have very little time right now. I really hope I don't die this phase so I can explain all this VCA but the one thing that I'm quite confident in is that willow looks significantly more townie than scummy. None of her vote changes near the end were necessary from a scum perspective and only brought attention to herself. Everything else can wait until I have more time to explain but I wanted to make sure I got this point across whether I die or not. |
DenjaX said: PentaFlare said: You ain't dying tonight. Mafia needs to kill PR. You are insignificant in their eyes.I have very little time right now. I really hope I don't die this phase so I can explain all this VCA but the one thing that I'm quite confident in is that willow looks significantly more townie than scummy. None of her vote changes near the end were necessary from a scum perspective and only brought attention to herself. Everything else can wait until I have more time to explain but I wanted to make sure I got this point across whether I die or not. That's what I'm hoping |
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| Just putting it out here in case everybody missed my post: Vanilla town does not get roleblock pm, only PRs can receive the pm. With this kind of specification, it is obvious there is a mafia roleblocker. |
PentaFlare said: I have very little time right now. I really hope I don't die this phase so I can explain all this VCA but the one thing that I'm quite confident in is that willow looks significantly more townie than scummy. None of her vote changes near the end were necessary from a scum perspective and only brought attention to herself. Everything else can wait until I have more time to explain but I wanted to make sure I got this point across whether I die or not. I kinda agree about amberwillow but two things should be considered: >I've already pointed out heavily that grrr is unlikely to be mafia because of he was the last one to vote for Oyasumi_Rosie's lynch. >amberwillow's reaction after today's lynch was not "oh fuck i voted for the wrong dude" but "fu denjax." |
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DenjaX said: Just putting it out here in case everybody missed my post: Vanilla town does not get roleblock pm, only PRs can receive the pm. With this kind of specification, it is obvious there is a mafia roleblocker. No it isn't. I've given that specification to players in a game where there was no roleblocker after being asked. |
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RE1031 said: PentaFlare said: I have very little time right now. I really hope I don't die this phase so I can explain all this VCA but the one thing that I'm quite confident in is that willow looks significantly more townie than scummy. None of her vote changes near the end were necessary from a scum perspective and only brought attention to herself. Everything else can wait until I have more time to explain but I wanted to make sure I got this point across whether I die or not. I kinda agree about amberwillow but two things should be considered: >I've already pointed out heavily that grrr is unlikely to be mafia because of he was the last one to vote for Oyasumi_Rosie's lynch. >amberwillow's reaction after today's lynch was not "oh fuck i voted for the wrong dude" but "fu denjax." Rightfully so, Denja was trying to cause a no lynch |
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 Day 3You feel a chill run down your spine as you think of all the good kitties who have lost their lives during this seemingly futile search. Have you disappointed them? Has all this searching gone in vain? You fall into a restless slumber, not realizing somekitty among the group went missing. Good meowning everykitty! I hope mew are all feeling livefurly today :3 I do have some unfurtunyate mews once again ;w; Our meowgnamious ampurrwillow has purrished over the night ;w; Purrlease everykitty, I am counting on you to find those bad kitties! >w< amberwillow has been found dead! They were... Mod notes: Happy Purrthday to my mewtiful co-host @Gruffin !!! >w< Also a few things. Lamb responded to the prod, and will be replaced or modkilled only if he does not meet the requirement a second time. The same goes for anyone else... I will only modkill if it is absolutely necessary. So I encourage everykitty to stay active! 🕒 Countdown to Night 3 🕒 @Shinichi-kun @Crossbell @RE1031 @Logic340 @Lam-B @followind @PentaFlare @DenjaX @grrr |
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PentaFlare said: RE1031 said: I kinda agree about amberwillow but two things should be considered: >I've already pointed out heavily that grrr is unlikely to be mafia because of he was the last one to vote for Oyasumi_Rosie's lynch. >amberwillow's reaction after today's lynch was not "oh fuck i voted for the wrong dude" but "fu denjax." Rightfully so, Denja was trying to cause a no lynch Oh yeah, except it wasn't a no lynch. As someone who lynched a townie, she can't blame another person for it. It'd be one thing if she regretted voting for Grapefruit over Logic, but I don't see anywhere something like "should have stuck with logic." Denja didn't force anyone's hand, honestly. I'm annoyed at him for plenty of other reasons, but I don't blame him for Grape's mislynch.** **edit: to clarify, of course i blame him, but not anymore than everyone else on the train. Also RIP amberwillow sorry I suspected you even after you died. |
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| so far 2 town were confirmed on rosie train, im positive atleast 1 person on that train is scum. |
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PentaFlare said: Rerunning the scum algorithm with willow inputted as a townie, results coming soon. if only we could just everynes name in an algorithm to find scumm |
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| New Mathematical Results RE, Cross, Denja - 98 pts each logic - 84 pts follow, Shinichi - 77 pts each grrr - 68 pts Lamb - 50 pts If I'm added in, Denja drops significantly (just above grrr) and logic moves up above RE and Cross. The rest of the order stays the same. |
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PentaFlare said: New Mathematical Results RE, Cross, Denja - 98 pts each logic - 84 pts follow, Shinichi - 77 pts each grrr - 68 pts Lamb - 50 pts If I'm added in, Denja drops significantly (just above grrr) and logic moves up above RE and Cross. The rest of the order stays the same. Explain to me how u becoming part of the list changes the chances of someone being scum or town? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: PentaFlare said: New Mathematical Results RE, Cross, Denja - 98 pts each logic - 84 pts follow, Shinichi - 77 pts each grrr - 68 pts Lamb - 50 pts If I'm added in, Denja drops significantly (just above grrr) and logic moves up above RE and Cross. The rest of the order stays the same. Explain to me how u becoming part of the list changes the chances of someone being scum or town? Because there is a fixed number of points and the points that would go to me would be taken mostly from Denja and the rest from RE and Cross |
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PentaFlare said: New Mathematical Results RE, Cross, Denja - 98 pts each logic - 84 pts follow, Shinichi - 77 pts each grrr - 68 pts Lamb - 50 pts If I'm added in, Denja drops significantly (just above grrr) and logic moves up above RE and Cross. The rest of the order stays the same. How does the algorithm work? Is part of it based on how confirmed townies voted? |
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RE1031 said: How does it work in general. From my PoV amber voted all town if you are indeed town.PentaFlare said: New Mathematical Results RE, Cross, Denja - 98 pts each logic - 84 pts follow, Shinichi - 77 pts each grrr - 68 pts Lamb - 50 pts If I'm added in, Denja drops significantly (just above grrr) and logic moves up above RE and Cross. The rest of the order stays the same. How does the algorithm work? Is part of it based on how confirmed townies voted? |
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🐭 Final Vote Count 🐭 Oyasumi_Rosie (6) RE1031, Grapefruit21, Crossbell, Logic340, amberwillow, Grrr Grrr (3) followind, CorruptedPurity, Sollux16 CorruptedPurity (2) PentaFlare, _Claire_ RE1031 (1) Lam-B Not Voting Oyasumi_Rosie 🐭 Vote History 🐭 🐭 Final Vote Count 🐭 Grapefruit21 (5) followind, Logic340, Shinichi-Kun, DenjaX, amberwillow Logic340 (4) Grapefruit21, PentaFlare, Crossbell, RE1031 RE1031 (1) Grrr Not Voting Lam-B 🐭 Vote History 🐭 Mod notes: Fast and Furrious voting! This is how things look from my PoV, please add yourself and discuss with me. |
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| We only have one mislynch left and I would prefer that doesn't happen this phase. I don't want to lynch Denja because there is still too much uncertainty there. Seems like the kind of player would be taken advantage of as mislynch bait for town. grrr is out of the question. Too little information. Too risky for this point in the game. Same with Lamb due to the disappearance on day 2. I'm hesitant about RE, follow, and Shinichi, but if you have a really good case, fire away. This leaves logic and Crossbell as my primary suspects right now. They are my first focuses. |
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PentaFlare said: Why hesitant on follow? How accurate is the algorithm? Have you explained how it works somewhere in the thread previously?We only have one mislynch left and I would prefer that doesn't happen this phase. I don't want to lynch Denja because there is still too much uncertainty there. Seems like the kind of player would be taken advantage of as mislynch bait for town. grrr is out of the question. Too little information. Too risky for this point in the game. Same with Lamb due to the disappearance on day 2. I'm hesitant about RE, follow, and Shinichi, but if you have a really good case, fire away. This leaves logic and Crossbell as my primary suspects right now. They are my first focuses. |
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PentaFlare said: So how do you weight the living players against the dead town players who voted predominately town?The algorithm works under the assumption that mafia won't all pile on the same train and try to spread themselves out. It gives a little bit mroe priority to people who votes for confirmed town, but the first part is more important. |
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