What this anime should have looked like?

The Flowers of Evil

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Apr 16, 2013 8:43 AM

#151

Fintan

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Monde11 said:

Oatison said:

Nerdy_Old_Taco said:

yujin75 said:

Just gonna leave this here...

Just going to check your profile...yup tons of generic moe'

I really don't see how this is moe. The features aren't exaggerated and rounded like Chuu2 or K-On

I don't get what's bad about moe in the first place, it's just a buzzword thrown around as an excuse to call something generic.

There's nothing wrong with moe, it has its place in anime/manga. What I was getting at is that people don't like this art style purely because the female characters aren't designed to be as attractive and likeable as possible(moe'). Since people realize how shallow that argument is after a few comments, they start finding other things that are "wrong" with it so they don't sound like perverted moe' lovers.

Also if any of you have not even watched the show because of the pics posted, the people who disliked the change in art style purposely searched for frames of animation where the characters looked bad(while blinking/talking/moving ext). You can do that with literally any anime, and people have posted examples in another topic. Just don't judge by these pics, yea it is a different style but it doesn't look bad. I'm not one of those people trying to act like this anime is amazing, so far it's pretty good but the plot could end up bringing the show down. It's pretty much a more pretentious dark version of Masturbation Master Kurosawa. The animation is not bad though, it's just not what a lot of you are used to.

Not going to deny that some of these editing jobs are hilarious though lol

Apr 16, 2013 8:59 AM

#152

Aurioch

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I have nothing about rotoscoping in general, I like watching something different. However I don't like how sloppy it's executed on people. There are shots where characters look retarted compared to the same expressions RL people would look like with. Combined with lack of shading results can be atrocious.
However, there ARE shots and scenes which look just beautiful. Background looks amazing, void scene from beginning of ep2 too and Nakamura is just damn cute in some shots.

astroprogs said:
If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you?

Not air.

Apr 16, 2013 9:43 AM

#153

jal90

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Nerdy_Old_Taco said:

Monde11 said:

Oatison said:

Nerdy_Old_Taco said:

yujin75 said:

Just gonna leave this here...

Just going to check your profile...yup tons of generic moe'

I really don't see how this is moe. The features aren't exaggerated and rounded like Chuu2 or K-On

I don't get what's bad about moe in the first place, it's just a buzzword thrown around as an excuse to call something generic.

I watch movies/I write about movies (in Spanish)/I watch anime

Apr 16, 2013 11:02 AM

#154

Scherezade

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CrescentYozora25 said:

Ketamine said:

Bugsquasher said:
All I see are fags that rate it a 1 because the anime doesn't look like the manga.

Imagine Steins;Gate with that "animation", would you still enjoy it as much?
i think not.

yeah me too.. I honestly wouldn't enjoy it..

would you give it a 1?

Apr 16, 2013 1:12 PM

#155

okanagan

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anime versus "CANime"

I found some specific numbers allowing some comparison between Japanese anime and
some animation made in Canada. Apparently, a basic rule of thumb for Japan-made
anime is that each minute costs US$4800.(SEE NOTE *) One example of a cartoon
series made by a Canada-based company cost US$12000/minute.(See NOTE +). So
the production costs are 2.5X as much. Is the entertainment value 2.5X better? Have
a look at one example from that Canadian cartoon series and decide for yourself. (@)

Ethically, I must reveal that I am Canadian.

Canadian government policy has actively supported animation here. We have a very
long history of non-commercial, government-funded artistic films created by our
National Film Board.(SEE #) We also have laws requiring TV stations to show a large
fraction of Canadian-made programming. I believe that our commercial animation
industry is government-subsidized to some degree. Likewise, our government has
always financially supported radio and TV stations, networks and program production.

- - - - - - -

(*) "...30 minute episode ... US $145,214 ..."
http://www.crunchyroll.ca/anime-news/2011/10/30-1/how-much-does-one-episode-of-anime-cost-to-make

(+) "It costs between $6 million and $8 million to make 52 11-minute episodes of 1001
Nights..." [These are Canadian dollars, roughly equal to US dollars.]
http://www.bwob.ca/profiles/canadian-childrens-cartoons-find-an-international-appeal/

(@) "1001 Nights" Episode 1 -- 12 minutes - by a Canada-based production company
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJvkCWyZKqo

(#) "The Big Snit" -- 1985 -- Richard Condie -- National Film Board of Canada
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90SIuISIVB8
According to this list of the 50 greatest North American cartoons of all time:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Greatest_Cartoons
"The Big Snit" is the best Canadian cartoon ever made. There are no anime on this
list since Japan is not in North America.

okanaganApr 16, 2013 1:41 PM

Apr 16, 2013 1:52 PM

#156

Nopeeking

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Nerdy_Old_Taco said:

There's nothing wrong with moe, it has its place in anime/manga. What I was getting at is that people don't like this art style purely because the female characters aren't designed to be as attractive and likeable as possible(moe') Since people realize how shallow that argument is after a few comments, they start finding other things that are "wrong" with it so they don't sound like perverted moe' lovers.

..but wouldn't that be enough reason to not like the art?
Although, I can understand the frustration you get to see people drop it because of the rotoscoping, they're not in the wrong for doing so.
as long as they pick up the manga
I mean if you're gonna be watching something it should at least be enjoyable for you to look at. That's why I understand why people would drop it. Personally I would prefer what that guy posted. It's looks much more like what Im used to (the manga) but i'm still gonna watch the animation til the end.

It's pretty much a more pretentious dark version of Masturbation Master Kurosawa

Yeah I was getting the whole Onani Master vibe from it too haha

Apr 16, 2013 3:17 PM

#157

Durbikins

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Ketamine said:

Bugsquasher said:
All I see are fags that rate it a 1 because the anime doesn't look like the manga.

Imagine Steins;Gate with that "animation", would you still enjoy it as much?
i think not.

Steins;Gate is a completely different story. Of course people wouldn't like a rotoscoped Steins;Gate because it wouldn't fit as the story of Steins;Gate is science fiction. The plot of Aku no Hana seems like something that would be non-fiction that viewers and see happening in the real world, so the rotoscope animation is used to give it a more realistic feeling.

DurbikinsApr 16, 2013 3:22 PM

Apr 16, 2013 3:25 PM

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MellowJello

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Apr 16, 2013 3:36 PM

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eminagnam

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MellowJello said:

Hahaha Good one. Pics speak louder than words.

Apr 16, 2013 4:12 PM

#160

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MellowJello said:

THIS, is HILARIOUS. ROFL

Apr 17, 2013 1:28 PM

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kokoroanime

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Read this. http://kokoroanimeblog.blogspot.com/2013/04/for-those-complaining-about-animation.html

Apr 17, 2013 1:32 PM

#162

MellowJello

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kokoroanime said:
Read this. http://kokoroanimeblog.blogspot.com/2013/04/for-those-complaining-about-animation.html

Pointless blog post said:
So... Aku no Hana is not the only manga that got screwed up in the anime.

SO?

Apr 17, 2013 1:38 PM

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MellowJello said:

kokoroanime said:
Read this. http://kokoroanimeblog.blogspot.com/2013/04/for-those-complaining-about-animation.html

Pointless blog post said:
So... Aku no Hana is not the only manga that got screwed up in the anime.

SO?

It's true. But all these year in anime history, it must be the first anime to animated in rotoscoping. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Rotoscoping Go under "anime" and read for yourself.

Apr 17, 2013 1:42 PM

#164

MellowJello

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kokoroanime said:

MellowJello said:

kokoroanime said:
Read this. http://kokoroanimeblog.blogspot.com/2013/04/for-those-complaining-about-animation.html

Pointless blog post said:
So... Aku no Hana is not the only manga that got screwed up in the anime.

SO?

It's true. But all these year in anime history, it must be the first anime to animated in rotoscoping. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Rotoscoping Go under "anime" and read for yourself.