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Mar 10, 2015 9:07 AM
#1051
Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Icezera said: @darklight So you give up and thus your claim has no backing. Don't make any statements unless you can back it up. No I just said if you will give me several weeks to shift through all the threads, I would definitely find proof. But then we both know you won't be around that long. Well you better start then, otherwise you will need another argument. Saying that you don't have time is not an excuse. And what's it to you? You aren't the one I need to prove anything to. But fine if that person still is around by the time I'm done I'll be sure to post my results. They should prove VERY revealing. Well I am just interested in how you are going to prove it by doing nothing. Doing nothing? I'm sorry are you right here in the same house as me, watching my every move? No you are not. I already have the Forum index page for the second season open in a tab. Going to start on the first thread sweep as soon as tea is ready. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:08 AM
#1052
Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Icezera said: Darklight resorting to ad hominems again lolol. Seriously, if you can't argue, don't even bother posting. And not even a good one. Accusing me of being an alt when I don't even argue like anyone else and have completely different styles. And SWN completely ignores the fact that Slaine is a terran and understood that Vers was extremely corrupt but could not evolve until he had been given a path. He was a teenager who had no idea how to change anything and was still rather clueless about the larger history of the Vers Empire until Saaz told him of it. And if you actually look at Saaz and Slaine's points, they have different goals Saaz was motivated by REVENGE against the humans and the Vers Empire because he blamed both for the death of Orlane and misleading his people. He would never have been a suitable reformer of the Vers Empire because his priority would have been revenge first reform second. His reform was motivated by revenge--he wants to reform the Empire to spit in the eye of the Emperor. Slaine is motivated by reform because he actually felt the discrimination of the the Vers Empire and fundamentally understands the issues that need to be changed. There's a reason why the most effective reformers belong to the people who they reform for. MLK was a black civil rights leader, Ghandi was Indian, Mandela was African and all of them shared in the suffering with their people so the people trust them as shown by Harklight. That's why the torture and the beatings were so essential to shaping Slaine's character which are equivalent to the jailing and persecution suffered by reformers of our world. Yet you ignore all these complexities ONCE AGAIN to fit into you narrative that Slaine is an idiot who has no idea what he's doing and has no agency. Again? I'm sorry didn't you claim you're a new user? Sounds to me like you've been around these parts quite a bit if you seem to know of my so called Reputation. You don't argue like anyone else? Yeah no you're not fooling anyone. Some of the terms you are using have been used by other confirmed dupes in the past. But go ahead and think your acting is fooling anyone except those on your side. Moderators eventually catch up to you guys and then we never see you post again. Until another user MIRACULOUSLY registers the same day he starts shitposting the same recycled drivel. Only in Aldnoah threads is this a trend and every time it's people who defend and make up excuses for Slaine. It happens to Seuljar as well in case you are forgetting, and he was all on Slaine bashing and Inaho worshipping. One person. A single exception compared to the sea of dupes that Slaine lovers comprize. That's still a majority whether you like it or not Inaho shippers are also in masses on the thread, countless time I have seen random posts declaring their support for Inaho while bashing Slaine. There is equal amount of hate on both sides. And tell me how many of those were made within the same week of their first post? There is much, every single time a new thread gets start it someone usual goes around bashing Slaine and praising Inaho, first in line is you and Seuljar, followed by Cooking Priest who makes repeated post on Slaine. And funnily enough each time a person makes a post concerning Slaine the same posters popped up again, they do not post extremely frequently in a short time, but they are sure persistent. You didn't answer my edit. How many of those accounts are made within the same week of their first post? How many of them post ONLY in Aldnoah Threads and how many of them have NOTHING on their profile. Say what you want about me and my like minded friends. But our profiles are a testament to how long we've been around her. We're posting with our own faces, not hiding behind disposable aliases. By face you mean a pic plucked randomly from the internet ? I mean I have started pretty much within this month and I have yet to bother about a pic as well, so do most Inahoshippers. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:09 AM
#1053
Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Icezera said: @darklight So you give up and thus your claim has no backing. Don't make any statements unless you can back it up. No I just said if you will give me several weeks to shift through all the threads, I would definitely find proof. But then we both know you won't be around that long. Well you better start then, otherwise you will need another argument. Saying that you don't have time is not an excuse. And what's it to you? You aren't the one I need to prove anything to. But fine if that person still is around by the time I'm done I'll be sure to post my results. They should prove VERY revealing. Well I am just interested in how you are going to prove it by doing nothing. Doing nothing? I'm sorry are you right here in the same house as me, watching my every move? No you are not. I already have the Forum index page for the second season open in a tab. Going to start on the first thread sweep as soon as tea is ready. You do know we are currently reading the same thread right ? Okay then lets just see the results then. And besides, I saw the guy on other threads as well and he was giving pretty sound arguments, not what you expect from a dupe account. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:11 AM
#1054
Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Icezera said: Darklight resorting to ad hominems again lolol. Seriously, if you can't argue, don't even bother posting. And not even a good one. Accusing me of being an alt when I don't even argue like anyone else and have completely different styles. And SWN completely ignores the fact that Slaine is a terran and understood that Vers was extremely corrupt but could not evolve until he had been given a path. He was a teenager who had no idea how to change anything and was still rather clueless about the larger history of the Vers Empire until Saaz told him of it. And if you actually look at Saaz and Slaine's points, they have different goals Saaz was motivated by REVENGE against the humans and the Vers Empire because he blamed both for the death of Orlane and misleading his people. He would never have been a suitable reformer of the Vers Empire because his priority would have been revenge first reform second. His reform was motivated by revenge--he wants to reform the Empire to spit in the eye of the Emperor. Slaine is motivated by reform because he actually felt the discrimination of the the Vers Empire and fundamentally understands the issues that need to be changed. There's a reason why the most effective reformers belong to the people who they reform for. MLK was a black civil rights leader, Ghandi was Indian, Mandela was African and all of them shared in the suffering with their people so the people trust them as shown by Harklight. That's why the torture and the beatings were so essential to shaping Slaine's character which are equivalent to the jailing and persecution suffered by reformers of our world. Yet you ignore all these complexities ONCE AGAIN to fit into you narrative that Slaine is an idiot who has no idea what he's doing and has no agency. Again? I'm sorry didn't you claim you're a new user? Sounds to me like you've been around these parts quite a bit if you seem to know of my so called Reputation. You don't argue like anyone else? Yeah no you're not fooling anyone. Some of the terms you are using have been used by other confirmed dupes in the past. But go ahead and think your acting is fooling anyone except those on your side. Moderators eventually catch up to you guys and then we never see you post again. Until another user MIRACULOUSLY registers the same day he starts shitposting the same recycled drivel. Only in Aldnoah threads is this a trend and every time it's people who defend and make up excuses for Slaine. It happens to Seuljar as well in case you are forgetting, and he was all on Slaine bashing and Inaho worshipping. One person. A single exception compared to the sea of dupes that Slaine lovers comprize. That's still a majority whether you like it or not Inaho shippers are also in masses on the thread, countless time I have seen random posts declaring their support for Inaho while bashing Slaine. There is equal amount of hate on both sides. And tell me how many of those were made within the same week of their first post? There is much, every single time a new thread gets start it someone usual goes around bashing Slaine and praising Inaho, first in line is you and Seuljar, followed by Cooking Priest who makes repeated post on Slaine. And funnily enough each time a person makes a post concerning Slaine the same posters popped up again, they do not post extremely frequently in a short time, but they are sure persistent. You didn't answer my edit. How many of those accounts are made within the same week of their first post? How many of them post ONLY in Aldnoah Threads and how many of them have NOTHING on their profile. Say what you want about me and my like minded friends. But our profiles are a testament to how long we've been around her. We're posting with our own faces, not hiding behind disposable aliases. By face you mean a pic plucked randomly from the internet ? I mean I have started pretty much within this month and I have yet to bother about a pic as well, so do most Inahoshippers. By face I mean account. Profile picture is irrelevant though actually also proves my point. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:12 AM
#1055
| Anyway, going back to the topic of the future of Aldnoah, a lot of the previews are saying that Cruteo Jr. is more than he appears and that he is an imperialist. Couple this with the revised charts, do you guys think this will be the start of a civil war? Finale will of S2 being the breakout of the civil war or something. @darklight I'll be waiting. Maybe you will learn that there isn't a vast conspiracy out there but people who actually appreciate logical arguments and analyzing what's on the screen. Slaine is one of the few redeeming parts of Aldnoah and personally the only interesting character left and I will make sure to present him so that people on MAL can also realize his character |
Mar 10, 2015 9:12 AM
#1056
Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Icezera said: @darklight So you give up and thus your claim has no backing. Don't make any statements unless you can back it up. No I just said if you will give me several weeks to shift through all the threads, I would definitely find proof. But then we both know you won't be around that long. Well you better start then, otherwise you will need another argument. Saying that you don't have time is not an excuse. And what's it to you? You aren't the one I need to prove anything to. But fine if that person still is around by the time I'm done I'll be sure to post my results. They should prove VERY revealing. Well I am just interested in how you are going to prove it by doing nothing. Doing nothing? I'm sorry are you right here in the same house as me, watching my every move? No you are not. I already have the Forum index page for the second season open in a tab. Going to start on the first thread sweep as soon as tea is ready. You do know we are currently reading the same thread right ? Okay then lets just see the results then. And besides, I saw the guy on other threads as well and he was giving pretty sound arguments, not what you expect from a dupe account. Were you paying any attention? I said was was scanning EVERY thread in the Season 2 forums. I never said I'd scan just this thread. AFter all there are dupes that haven't posted in weeks. I have to factor those into the search as well. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:14 AM
#1057
Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Icezera said: Darklight resorting to ad hominems again lolol. Seriously, if you can't argue, don't even bother posting. And not even a good one. Accusing me of being an alt when I don't even argue like anyone else and have completely different styles. And SWN completely ignores the fact that Slaine is a terran and understood that Vers was extremely corrupt but could not evolve until he had been given a path. He was a teenager who had no idea how to change anything and was still rather clueless about the larger history of the Vers Empire until Saaz told him of it. And if you actually look at Saaz and Slaine's points, they have different goals Saaz was motivated by REVENGE against the humans and the Vers Empire because he blamed both for the death of Orlane and misleading his people. He would never have been a suitable reformer of the Vers Empire because his priority would have been revenge first reform second. His reform was motivated by revenge--he wants to reform the Empire to spit in the eye of the Emperor. Slaine is motivated by reform because he actually felt the discrimination of the the Vers Empire and fundamentally understands the issues that need to be changed. There's a reason why the most effective reformers belong to the people who they reform for. MLK was a black civil rights leader, Ghandi was Indian, Mandela was African and all of them shared in the suffering with their people so the people trust them as shown by Harklight. That's why the torture and the beatings were so essential to shaping Slaine's character which are equivalent to the jailing and persecution suffered by reformers of our world. Yet you ignore all these complexities ONCE AGAIN to fit into you narrative that Slaine is an idiot who has no idea what he's doing and has no agency. Again? I'm sorry didn't you claim you're a new user? Sounds to me like you've been around these parts quite a bit if you seem to know of my so called Reputation. You don't argue like anyone else? Yeah no you're not fooling anyone. Some of the terms you are using have been used by other confirmed dupes in the past. But go ahead and think your acting is fooling anyone except those on your side. Moderators eventually catch up to you guys and then we never see you post again. Until another user MIRACULOUSLY registers the same day he starts shitposting the same recycled drivel. Only in Aldnoah threads is this a trend and every time it's people who defend and make up excuses for Slaine. It happens to Seuljar as well in case you are forgetting, and he was all on Slaine bashing and Inaho worshipping. One person. A single exception compared to the sea of dupes that Slaine lovers comprize. That's still a majority whether you like it or not Inaho shippers are also in masses on the thread, countless time I have seen random posts declaring their support for Inaho while bashing Slaine. There is equal amount of hate on both sides. And tell me how many of those were made within the same week of their first post? There is much, every single time a new thread gets start it someone usual goes around bashing Slaine and praising Inaho, first in line is you and Seuljar, followed by Cooking Priest who makes repeated post on Slaine. And funnily enough each time a person makes a post concerning Slaine the same posters popped up again, they do not post extremely frequently in a short time, but they are sure persistent. You didn't answer my edit. How many of those accounts are made within the same week of their first post? How many of them post ONLY in Aldnoah Threads and how many of them have NOTHING on their profile. Say what you want about me and my like minded friends. But our profiles are a testament to how long we've been around her. We're posting with our own faces, not hiding behind disposable aliases. By face you mean a pic plucked randomly from the internet ? I mean I have started pretty much within this month and I have yet to bother about a pic as well, so do most Inahoshippers. By face I mean account. Profile picture is irrelevant though actually also proves my point. So is my account, I had just started around the end of last month, does that makes me a dupe account ? Some people will just start an account because of a very interesting or controversial anime series, something like A/Z where the writing had given people much to discussed and bash upon. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:14 AM
#1058
Icezera said: Anyway, going back to the topic of the future of Aldnoah, a lot of the previews are saying that Cruteo Jr. is more than he appears and that he is an imperialist. Couple this with the revised charts, do you guys think this will be the start of a civil war? Finale will of S2 being the breakout of the civil war or something. @darklight I'll be waiting. Maybe you will learn that there isn't a vast conspiracy out there but people who actually appreciate logical arguments and analyzing what's on the screen. Slaine is one of the few redeeming parts of Aldnoah and personally the only interesting character left and I will make sure to present him so that people on MAL can also realize his character Yes you do that. For as long as your denial will allow it before the series itself shows the truth. In the meantime I'll be sure to gather that evidence you want. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:14 AM
#1059
Viktor_Otaku said: 1)No Lelouch change completely after his encounter with Charles, before that he was all about his sister, then he was a depressed person and then right after the encounter he got all fired up again. And Charles sat down and brainwashed Lelouch with his own views right? The scenarios are completely different. Stop skewing facts to fit your argument. Viktor_Otaku said: 2) The split would not had happen if earth had gave proper attention to Mars before hand, their ignorance on the matter had pushed Vers to the point of no return, it their fault as well. Wait what the hell are you talking about. The split happened when the mars emperor discovered aldnoah and was given rights. They created the monarchy centred around this power. This blatant defending of martians just shows your clear lack of understanding of the shows setting. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:15 AM
#1060
| Welp, here's definitive proof that a civil war could be the next arc. Source: https://i.4cdn.org/a/1425959558091.jpg Translation: There's two groups in space right now, Slaine's hardliners and the Versian imperial faction that isn't too happy about their rise of power. They didn't announce any conflict officially but the truth is both factions have been keeping each other in check. Right after Slaine made the announcement of the Earthspace creation Klancain decided to pay him a visit supposedly to pay his respects as Saazbaum's successor. He's not as naive as his appearance makes him look and whoever wrote this says they have the feeling a storm is coming. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:15 AM
#1061
Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Icezera said: @darklight So you give up and thus your claim has no backing. Don't make any statements unless you can back it up. No I just said if you will give me several weeks to shift through all the threads, I would definitely find proof. But then we both know you won't be around that long. Well you better start then, otherwise you will need another argument. Saying that you don't have time is not an excuse. And what's it to you? You aren't the one I need to prove anything to. But fine if that person still is around by the time I'm done I'll be sure to post my results. They should prove VERY revealing. Well I am just interested in how you are going to prove it by doing nothing. Doing nothing? I'm sorry are you right here in the same house as me, watching my every move? No you are not. I already have the Forum index page for the second season open in a tab. Going to start on the first thread sweep as soon as tea is ready. You do know we are currently reading the same thread right ? Okay then lets just see the results then. And besides, I saw the guy on other threads as well and he was giving pretty sound arguments, not what you expect from a dupe account. Were you paying any attention? I said was was scanning EVERY thread in the Season 2 forums. I never said I'd scan just this thread. AFter all there are dupes that haven't posted in weeks. I have to factor those into the search as well. TBH I just started in episode 6 of season 2. And since then I have focused on little else other than A/Z. Does that by default make me a dupe account ? |
Mar 10, 2015 9:16 AM
#1062
Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Icezera said: Darklight resorting to ad hominems again lolol. Seriously, if you can't argue, don't even bother posting. And not even a good one. Accusing me of being an alt when I don't even argue like anyone else and have completely different styles. And SWN completely ignores the fact that Slaine is a terran and understood that Vers was extremely corrupt but could not evolve until he had been given a path. He was a teenager who had no idea how to change anything and was still rather clueless about the larger history of the Vers Empire until Saaz told him of it. And if you actually look at Saaz and Slaine's points, they have different goals Saaz was motivated by REVENGE against the humans and the Vers Empire because he blamed both for the death of Orlane and misleading his people. He would never have been a suitable reformer of the Vers Empire because his priority would have been revenge first reform second. His reform was motivated by revenge--he wants to reform the Empire to spit in the eye of the Emperor. Slaine is motivated by reform because he actually felt the discrimination of the the Vers Empire and fundamentally understands the issues that need to be changed. There's a reason why the most effective reformers belong to the people who they reform for. MLK was a black civil rights leader, Ghandi was Indian, Mandela was African and all of them shared in the suffering with their people so the people trust them as shown by Harklight. That's why the torture and the beatings were so essential to shaping Slaine's character which are equivalent to the jailing and persecution suffered by reformers of our world. Yet you ignore all these complexities ONCE AGAIN to fit into you narrative that Slaine is an idiot who has no idea what he's doing and has no agency. Again? I'm sorry didn't you claim you're a new user? Sounds to me like you've been around these parts quite a bit if you seem to know of my so called Reputation. You don't argue like anyone else? Yeah no you're not fooling anyone. Some of the terms you are using have been used by other confirmed dupes in the past. But go ahead and think your acting is fooling anyone except those on your side. Moderators eventually catch up to you guys and then we never see you post again. Until another user MIRACULOUSLY registers the same day he starts shitposting the same recycled drivel. Only in Aldnoah threads is this a trend and every time it's people who defend and make up excuses for Slaine. It happens to Seuljar as well in case you are forgetting, and he was all on Slaine bashing and Inaho worshipping. One person. A single exception compared to the sea of dupes that Slaine lovers comprize. That's still a majority whether you like it or not Inaho shippers are also in masses on the thread, countless time I have seen random posts declaring their support for Inaho while bashing Slaine. There is equal amount of hate on both sides. And tell me how many of those were made within the same week of their first post? There is much, every single time a new thread gets start it someone usual goes around bashing Slaine and praising Inaho, first in line is you and Seuljar, followed by Cooking Priest who makes repeated post on Slaine. And funnily enough each time a person makes a post concerning Slaine the same posters popped up again, they do not post extremely frequently in a short time, but they are sure persistent. You didn't answer my edit. How many of those accounts are made within the same week of their first post? How many of them post ONLY in Aldnoah Threads and how many of them have NOTHING on their profile. Say what you want about me and my like minded friends. But our profiles are a testament to how long we've been around her. We're posting with our own faces, not hiding behind disposable aliases. By face you mean a pic plucked randomly from the internet ? I mean I have started pretty much within this month and I have yet to bother about a pic as well, so do most Inahoshippers. By face I mean account. Profile picture is irrelevant though actually also proves my point. So is my account, I had just started around the end of last month, does that makes me a dupe account ? Some people will just start an account because of a very interesting or controversial anime series, something like A/Z where the writing had given people much to discussed and bash upon. And yet they say the same thing as past people with even the same wording and terms and they never post anywhere else. Not even attack on Titan had this many sudden new users and those that did pop up actually put a bit of effort into making their account actually seem like it was not a disposable sock. As for you, honestly it's rather hard to tell at times. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:18 AM
#1063
swn32 said: Viktor_Otaku said: 1)No Lelouch change completely after his encounter with Charles, before that he was all about his sister, then he was a depressed person and then right after the encounter he got all fired up again. And Charles sat down and brainwashed Lelouch with his own views right? The scenarios are completely different. Stop skewing facts to fit your argument. Viktor_Otaku said: 2) The split would not had happen if earth had gave proper attention to Mars before hand, their ignorance on the matter had pushed Vers to the point of no return, it their fault as well. Wait what the hell are you talking about. The split happened when the mars emperor discovered aldnoah and was given rights. They created the monarchy centred around this power. This blatant defending of martians just shows your clear lack of understanding of the shows setting. 1) I did not say that Charles brainwashed Lelouch, but his ideas left a lasting and immediate impression on Lelouch, its just like how Saazbaum left an impression on Slaine. 2) If you had read the promo materials, tensions between Earth was largely started from Earth not help Vers enough, it boiled over when they arrested the emperor (then professor) on trumped up charges, when all he was doing was just highlighting Ver's plight. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:18 AM
#1064
| I also started Aldnoah this week after someone recommended it to me and as primarily a mecha fan, it's been a long time since I've watched anime before this. The last anime I watched before this was Valvrave. Anyway... CIVIL WAR???? I hope that it's true and season 3 is also confirmed. Despite A/Z's flaws, I really enjoy the show and ABSOLUTELY adore the ost. Mkaliez is on repeat for me. Civil war could finally give us a room for characters to really develop outside of the white/black dichotomy of earth vs mars. Furthermore, we could have the distasteful UEF government exploit this opportunity which provides further intrigue (I think we can all agree that the UEF gov are idiots) |
Mar 10, 2015 9:20 AM
#1065
Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Darklight0303 said: Icezera said: Darklight resorting to ad hominems again lolol. Seriously, if you can't argue, don't even bother posting. And not even a good one. Accusing me of being an alt when I don't even argue like anyone else and have completely different styles. And SWN completely ignores the fact that Slaine is a terran and understood that Vers was extremely corrupt but could not evolve until he had been given a path. He was a teenager who had no idea how to change anything and was still rather clueless about the larger history of the Vers Empire until Saaz told him of it. And if you actually look at Saaz and Slaine's points, they have different goals Saaz was motivated by REVENGE against the humans and the Vers Empire because he blamed both for the death of Orlane and misleading his people. He would never have been a suitable reformer of the Vers Empire because his priority would have been revenge first reform second. His reform was motivated by revenge--he wants to reform the Empire to spit in the eye of the Emperor. Slaine is motivated by reform because he actually felt the discrimination of the the Vers Empire and fundamentally understands the issues that need to be changed. There's a reason why the most effective reformers belong to the people who they reform for. MLK was a black civil rights leader, Ghandi was Indian, Mandela was African and all of them shared in the suffering with their people so the people trust them as shown by Harklight. That's why the torture and the beatings were so essential to shaping Slaine's character which are equivalent to the jailing and persecution suffered by reformers of our world. Yet you ignore all these complexities ONCE AGAIN to fit into you narrative that Slaine is an idiot who has no idea what he's doing and has no agency. Again? I'm sorry didn't you claim you're a new user? Sounds to me like you've been around these parts quite a bit if you seem to know of my so called Reputation. You don't argue like anyone else? Yeah no you're not fooling anyone. Some of the terms you are using have been used by other confirmed dupes in the past. But go ahead and think your acting is fooling anyone except those on your side. Moderators eventually catch up to you guys and then we never see you post again. Until another user MIRACULOUSLY registers the same day he starts shitposting the same recycled drivel. Only in Aldnoah threads is this a trend and every time it's people who defend and make up excuses for Slaine. It happens to Seuljar as well in case you are forgetting, and he was all on Slaine bashing and Inaho worshipping. One person. A single exception compared to the sea of dupes that Slaine lovers comprize. That's still a majority whether you like it or not Inaho shippers are also in masses on the thread, countless time I have seen random posts declaring their support for Inaho while bashing Slaine. There is equal amount of hate on both sides. And tell me how many of those were made within the same week of their first post? There is much, every single time a new thread gets start it someone usual goes around bashing Slaine and praising Inaho, first in line is you and Seuljar, followed by Cooking Priest who makes repeated post on Slaine. And funnily enough each time a person makes a post concerning Slaine the same posters popped up again, they do not post extremely frequently in a short time, but they are sure persistent. You didn't answer my edit. How many of those accounts are made within the same week of their first post? How many of them post ONLY in Aldnoah Threads and how many of them have NOTHING on their profile. Say what you want about me and my like minded friends. But our profiles are a testament to how long we've been around her. We're posting with our own faces, not hiding behind disposable aliases. By face you mean a pic plucked randomly from the internet ? I mean I have started pretty much within this month and I have yet to bother about a pic as well, so do most Inahoshippers. By face I mean account. Profile picture is irrelevant though actually also proves my point. So is my account, I had just started around the end of last month, does that makes me a dupe account ? Some people will just start an account because of a very interesting or controversial anime series, something like A/Z where the writing had given people much to discussed and bash upon. And yet they say the same thing as past people with even the same wording and terms and they never post anywhere else. Not even attack on Titan had this many sudden new users and those that did pop up actually put a bit of effort into making their account actually seem like it was not a disposable sock. As for you, honestly it's rather hard to tell at times. And I had started out my first post by basically stating my liking for Slaine and my disappointment in Inaho, like many of the accounts you believe to be dupe. Its just that I do not use captions and exclamation marks at the start. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:20 AM
#1066
Viktor_Otaku said: 1) I did not say that Charles brainwashed Lelouch, but his ideas left a lasting and immediate impression on Lelouch, its just like how Saazbaum left an impression on Slaine. We are going around in circles with this point and repeating the same things. Like I said continue to think that these two characters are comparable despite it being stupid. Viktor_Otaku said: 2) If you had read the promo materials, tensions between Earth was largely started from Earth not help Vers enough, it boiled over when they arrested the emperor (then professor) on trumped up charges, when all he was doing was just highlighting Ver's plight. Tension? We were talking about the split. The split happened because of them discovering aldnoah and forming a feudal system around it. That is just plain fact right from the first episode. The plight of Vers were their own doing. Earth owed them absolutely nothing. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:21 AM
#1067
Icezera said: I also started Aldnoah this week after someone recommended it to me and as primarily a mecha fan, it's been a long time since I've watched anime before this. The last anime I watched before this was Valvrave. Anyway... CIVIL WAR???? I hope that it's true and season 3 is also confirmed. Despite A/Z's flaws, I really enjoy the show and ABSOLUTELY adore the ost. Mkaliez is on repeat for me. Civil war could finally give us a room for characters to really develop outside of the white/black dichotomy of earth vs mars. Furthermore, we could have the distasteful UEF government exploit this opportunity which provides further intrigue (I think we can all agree that the UEF gov are idiots) Civil War would be an interesting twist as long as they FINALLY start explaining Aldnoah. Something that should have happened in this season but alas. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:22 AM
#1068
swn32 said: Viktor_Otaku said: 1) I did not say that Charles brainwashed Lelouch, but his ideas left a lasting and immediate impression on Lelouch, its just like how Saazbaum left an impression on Slaine. We are going around in circles with this point and repeating the same things. Like I said continue to think that these two characters are comparable despite it being stupid. Viktor_Otaku said: 2) If you had read the promo materials, tensions between Earth was largely started from Earth not help Vers enough, it boiled over when they arrested the emperor (then professor) on trumped up charges, when all he was doing was just highlighting Ver's plight. Tension? We were talking about the split. The split happened because of them discovering aldnoah. That is just plain fact right from the first episode. 1) And like I say I believe that the 2 characters are comparable and this is reasonable. 2) No, tension and ill-will was started at that point, the promo material made that clear. The promo materials gives us a very good understanding of the setting of the story. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:23 AM
#1069
swn32 said: Viktor_Otaku said: 1) I did not say that Charles brainwashed Lelouch, but his ideas left a lasting and immediate impression on Lelouch, its just like how Saazbaum left an impression on Slaine. We are going around in circles with this point and repeating the same things. Like I said continue to think that these two characters are comparable despite it being stupid. Viktor_Otaku said: 2) If you had read the promo materials, tensions between Earth was largely started from Earth not help Vers enough, it boiled over when they arrested the emperor (then professor) on trumped up charges, when all he was doing was just highlighting Ver's plight. Tension? We were talking about the split. The split happened because of them discovering aldnoah. That is just plain fact right from the first episode. The plight of Vers were their own doing. Earth owed them absolutely nothing. I like you SWN. At least you try to argue with us. You have my respect. Supposedly, this is the translated timeline. http://fabelyn.tumblr.com/post/93525769376/aldnoah-history-1969-2014-timeline-translation You can see that the Martians were sent to Mars without adequate resources and the Emperor requested the Mars immigration program for more supplies but earth denied them so tensions started then. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:23 AM
#1070
Darklight0303 said: Icezera said: I also started Aldnoah this week after someone recommended it to me and as primarily a mecha fan, it's been a long time since I've watched anime before this. The last anime I watched before this was Valvrave. Anyway... CIVIL WAR???? I hope that it's true and season 3 is also confirmed. Despite A/Z's flaws, I really enjoy the show and ABSOLUTELY adore the ost. Mkaliez is on repeat for me. Civil war could finally give us a room for characters to really develop outside of the white/black dichotomy of earth vs mars. Furthermore, we could have the distasteful UEF government exploit this opportunity which provides further intrigue (I think we can all agree that the UEF gov are idiots) Civil War would be an interesting twist as long as they FINALLY start explaining Aldnoah. Something that should have happened in this season but alas. The war could also give Earth a chance to shine in a better light then once, it will really help to clear the bad blood between the 2 planets. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:24 AM
#1071
Viktor_Otaku said: 2) No, tension and ill-will was started at that point, the promo material made that clear. The promo materials gives us a very good understanding of the setting of the story. Again ffs, we aren't talking about the tension. The split and the cause of the plight of vers was vers alone. Earth owed them nothing. Are you even reading my points? |
Mar 10, 2015 9:25 AM
#1072
| And it might give Marito some chance to finally shine! I seriously love his character (always had a thing for older pilots/veteran/mentors since Quattro from Zeta) so I hope he can step out of Inaho's shadow and finally shine. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:26 AM
#1073
swn32 said: Viktor_Otaku said: 2) No, tension and ill-will was started at that point, the promo material made that clear. The promo materials gives us a very good understanding of the setting of the story. Again ffs, we aren't talking about the tension. The split and the cause of the plight of vers was vers alone. Earth owed them nothing. Are you even reading my points? No the fault of the plight and split have to be shouldered by earth as well, it was because they did not pay proper attention to Mars that this happens. they are also to blame. They own them because they basically brought the colonist there and then dump them and left them to fend for themselves. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:28 AM
#1074
| Inaho's cybernetic eye is just like Tony Stark's Arc Heart. Already taking its toll. |
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Mar 10, 2015 9:28 AM
#1075
Viktor_Otaku said: That doesn't mean Earth owed them any support. Where is the trade?No the fault of the plight and split have to be shouldered by earth as well, it was because they did not pay proper attention to Mars that this happens. they are also to blame. They own them because they basically brought the colonist there and then dump them and left them to fend for themselves. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:29 AM
#1076
Darklight0303 said: Icezera said: The Inaho fans have no say. Slaine beats Inaho in popularity polls by a huge amount and the huge sales drop is directly because of people reacting against the treatment of Slaine. However, it depends on how the show was structured. If everything was written/produced/ etc beforehand, no amount of outrage will change anything and if it is made on a shorter term basis, Slaine wins. Slaine wins by mere virtue of him being designed from the start as Fujoshi bait. Not because he's a complex character which he isn't. ALso how odd that you JUST made your account today. Totally not the sign of yet another dupe. Slaine defenders really love hiding behind dupes a lot. Wonder why Ummm....... with how Lelouch is designed by Clamp which famous for all kind of fujoshi bait+ crazy pairing from Yuri to loli to shota, i don't think there is much difference between the two here. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:30 AM
#1077
Icezera said: And it might give Marito some chance to finally shine! I seriously love his character (always had a thing for older pilots/veteran/mentors since Quattro from Zeta) so I hope he can step out of Inaho's shadow and finally shine. While he is a good character, he isn't anywhere as competent as Inaho. It would make no sense for him to just shine out of nowhere. He hasn't been shown to be very sharp throughout the anime either. Then again, I don't dislike him either. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:30 AM
#1078
swn32 said: Viktor_Otaku said: That doesn't mean Earth owed them any support. Where is the trade?No the fault of the plight and split have to be shouldered by earth as well, it was because they did not pay proper attention to Mars that this happens. they are also to blame. They own them because they basically brought the colonist there and then dump them and left them to fend for themselves. You expected a colony to start producing within the span of 2 yrs after arriving on the most hostile planets know to man. They were lucky enough to even survive then. THis was well known to Earth but they turn a blind eye to it. And once again they own them support because they were the ones who brought the colonists there in the first place, without proper supplies and equipment. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:31 AM
#1079
swn32 said: Viktor_Otaku said: That doesn't mean Earth owed them any support. Where is the trade?No the fault of the plight and split have to be shouldered by earth as well, it was because they did not pay proper attention to Mars that this happens. they are also to blame. They own them because they basically brought the colonist there and then dump them and left them to fend for themselves. I think the trade is that Mars would be the next frontier and a foundation of new aldnoah tech. However, if you don't support the colonists that you sent, why would they return anything? I and victor consider that responsibility still lies with Earth until the colonists are established at which point the Colonists now owe the Earth. However, the timeline states that the Earth did not provide enough supplies in the first place so the relationship was never fully established. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:33 AM
#1080
swn32 said: Icezera said: And it might give Marito some chance to finally shine! I seriously love his character (always had a thing for older pilots/veteran/mentors since Quattro from Zeta) so I hope he can step out of Inaho's shadow and finally shine. While he is a good character, he isn't anywhere as competent as Inaho. It would make no sense for him to just shine out of nowhere. He hasn't been shown to be very sharp throughout the anime either. Then again, I don't dislike him either. I don't WANT him to be as competent as Inaho. I want him to be more of the mentor to the other kids and have him develop relationships among the older adults too as a bridge between the adult leaders and the younger (since he was their teacher) Hopefully he can teach them like a mentor but Inaho seems to be Jesus so he doesn't need anything to learn which is my primary problem with him since Inaho is literally flawless. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:33 AM
#1081
Icezera said: A trade where the benefits aren't certain and the cost of colonizing mars, which I'm sure is by no means cheap, isn't normally done. Think of it from an economics point of view. You are essentially spending huge resources to colonize a planet without any immediate or certain benefits.I think the trade is that Mars would be the next frontier and a foundation of new aldnoah tech. However, if you don't support the colonists that you sent, why would they return anything? I and victor consider that responsibility still lies with Earth until the colonists are established at which point the Colonists now owe the Earth. However, the timeline states that the Earth did not provide enough supplies in the first place so the relationship was never fully established. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:35 AM
#1082
Icezera said: swn32 said: Icezera said: And it might give Marito some chance to finally shine! I seriously love his character (always had a thing for older pilots/veteran/mentors since Quattro from Zeta) so I hope he can step out of Inaho's shadow and finally shine. While he is a good character, he isn't anywhere as competent as Inaho. It would make no sense for him to just shine out of nowhere. He hasn't been shown to be very sharp throughout the anime either. Then again, I don't dislike him either. I don't WANT him to be as competent as Inaho. I want him to be more of the mentor to the other kids and have him develop relationships among the older adults too as a bridge between the adult leaders and the younger (since he was their teacher) Hopefully he can teach them like a mentor but Inaho seems to be Jesus so he doesn't need anything to learn which is my primary problem with him since Inaho is literally flawless. What I really want is for him to get over his PTSD and alcoholism and actually come to term with his past, preferably with his friend's sister. That to me is the best character development of all time. See, we can appreciate and support other characters. We just need to see things from the other's pov. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:36 AM
#1083
swn32 said: Icezera said: A trade where the benefits aren't certain and the cost of colonizing mars, which I'm sure is by no means cheap, isn't normally done. Think of it from an economics point of view. You are essentially spending huge resources to colonize a planet without any immediate or certain benefits.I think the trade is that Mars would be the next frontier and a foundation of new aldnoah tech. However, if you don't support the colonists that you sent, why would they return anything? I and victor consider that responsibility still lies with Earth until the colonists are established at which point the Colonists now owe the Earth. However, the timeline states that the Earth did not provide enough supplies in the first place so the relationship was never fully established. I actually think that IS how it's done. After all, you need investment to get a return. However, Earth didn't invest enough and yet expects returns from the colonists who obviously had problems with that. Compare to other colonies in history. Britain invested huge amounts of money into India, the East India Company, America, and more. Spain invested huge amounts of money into Mexico and the countries south to develop real ports and cities to send their people. Even Japan industrialized Korea before WWII in order to establish a real foothold |
Mar 10, 2015 9:37 AM
#1084
Icezera said: swn32 said: Icezera said: And it might give Marito some chance to finally shine! I seriously love his character (always had a thing for older pilots/veteran/mentors since Quattro from Zeta) so I hope he can step out of Inaho's shadow and finally shine. While he is a good character, he isn't anywhere as competent as Inaho. It would make no sense for him to just shine out of nowhere. He hasn't been shown to be very sharp throughout the anime either. Then again, I don't dislike him either. I don't WANT him to be as competent as Inaho. I want him to be more of the mentor to the other kids and have him develop relationships among the older adults too as a bridge between the adult leaders and the younger (since he was their teacher) Hopefully he can teach them like a mentor but Inaho seems to be Jesus so he doesn't need anything to learn which is my primary problem with him since Inaho is literally flawless. I assumed you meant shine as in show some badassery in combat. I really don't see him doing much of that. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:37 AM
#1085
swn32 said: Icezera said: A trade where the benefits aren't certain and the cost of colonizing mars, which I'm sure is by no means cheap, isn't normally done. Think of it from an economics point of view. You are essentially spending huge resources to colonize a planet without any immediate or certain benefits.I think the trade is that Mars would be the next frontier and a foundation of new aldnoah tech. However, if you don't support the colonists that you sent, why would they return anything? I and victor consider that responsibility still lies with Earth until the colonists are established at which point the Colonists now owe the Earth. However, the timeline states that the Earth did not provide enough supplies in the first place so the relationship was never fully established. It was a risk that earth had willingly take, they had 5 yrs to survey mars before hand and it is ridiculous to think that they expect to reap benefits within 2 yrs, not with that kind of environment. It was like all major colonization efforts in the past, some succeed and some failed spectacularly. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:39 AM
#1086
Icezera said: I actually think that IS how it's done. After all, you need investment to get a return. However, Earth didn't invest enough and yet expects returns from the colonists who obviously had problems with that. Compare to other colonies in history. Britain invested huge amounts of money into India, the East India Company, America, and more. Spain invested huge amounts of money into Mexico and the countries south to develop real ports and cities to send their people. Even Japan industrialized Korea before WWII in order to establish a real foothold But can you imagine the cost of colonizing a planet. It's not like earth is without problems it self that it can simply throw away resources at completely uncertain technology. It is again based on how much they valued the research. Obviously not very much. Also I don't see why it is necessary to colonize a planet in order to do research on some technology there. I'm sure there wouldve been cheaper ways. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:40 AM
#1087
| @viktor I actually think that too! I believe that he'll repair his relationship with the captain when he gets over his PTSD completely (it'll be like the last step symbolizing his recovery symbolizing that he forgives himself for his part in Humeway's death and now can ask for forgiveness from the captain). However, I want him to keep drinking. It kinda fits the image of a jaded veteran who knows about the world's realities and teaches the younger |
Mar 10, 2015 9:40 AM
#1088
swn32 said: Icezera said: I actually think that IS how it's done. After all, you need investment to get a return. However, Earth didn't invest enough and yet expects returns from the colonists who obviously had problems with that. Compare to other colonies in history. Britain invested huge amounts of money into India, the East India Company, America, and more. Spain invested huge amounts of money into Mexico and the countries south to develop real ports and cities to send their people. Even Japan industrialized Korea before WWII in order to establish a real foothold But can you imagine the cost of colonizing a planet. It's not like earth is without problems it self that it can simply throw away resources at completely uncertain technology. It is again based on how much they valued the research. Obviously not very much. Also I don't see why it is necessary to colonize a planet in order to do research on some technology there. I'm sure there wouldve been cheaper ways. First thing that comes to mind would be terraforming Mars to make it suitable for agriculture, and that again requires resources from earth. Another economy would be mining and manufacturing, but that again requires heavy equipment from earth to be shipped to Mars. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:41 AM
#1089
Icezera said: @viktor I actually think that too! I believe that he'll repair his relationship with the captain when he gets over his PTSD completely (it'll be like the last step symbolizing his recovery symbolizing that he forgives himself for his part in Humeway's death and now can ask for forgiveness from the captain). However, I want him to keep drinking. It kinda fits the image of a jaded veteran who knows about the world's realities and teaches the younger Him drinking is not a problem, him drinking to drown his sorrows is. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:42 AM
#1090
| @swn It truly would be a huge cost to colonize Mars, but if the cost was too high, it is my opinion that they simply should not have attempted then until they were ready. You are right that they should have sent a research team only but blame bad writing. Earth sent a fully fledged colonization project (given that the project was deemed the MARS IMMIGRATION PROJECT) without fully understanding Mars. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:45 AM
#1091
Icezera said: @swn It truly would be a huge cost to colonize Mars, but if the cost was too high, it is my opinion that they simply should not have attempted then until they were ready. You are right that they should have sent a research team only but blame bad writing. Earth sent a fully fledged colonization project (given that the project was deemed the MARS IMMIGRATION PROJECT) without fully understanding Mars. From what I gathered, the colonists moved to Mars on their own will without fully understanding the difficulties faced by colonization. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:46 AM
#1092
swn32 said: Viktor_Otaku said: 2) No, tension and ill-will was started at that point, the promo material made that clear. The promo materials gives us a very good understanding of the setting of the story. Again ffs, we aren't talking about the tension. The split and the cause of the plight of vers was vers alone. Earth owed them nothing. Are you even reading my points? Actually, reading the aldnoah history there. I feel the EF does owe the Mars in some way some responsibilities here. First, they are supported by Earth's Corporation to move to Mars and colonize the planet. Second, the EF/UN there supported Mars Immigration Program to Mars for more than 300k+ humans to stay there. In the third point where Rayregelia started inciting anti Earth thoughts to the people of Mars is explained the reason is because most of the people who join the program to stay on Mars actually thought that this journey is going to be great as they are going to a new Frontier even when Rayregelia had keep informing the Earth government that Mars is highly difficult to live on. Which end up causing tons of anger to the public which feel they are lied to. This is actually slowly changing more and more into Zeon vs EFSF here. Zeon Zum Diekum vs EFSF corrupt official.T_T Icezera said: Welp, here's definitive proof that a civil war could be the next arc. Source: https://i.4cdn.org/a/1425959558091.jpg Translation: There's two groups in space right now, Slaine's hardliners and the Versian imperial faction that isn't too happy about their rise of power. They didn't announce any conflict officially but the truth is both factions have been keeping each other in check. Right after Slaine made the announcement of the Earthspace creation Klancain decided to pay him a visit supposedly to pay his respects as Saazbaum's successor. He's not as naive as his appearance makes him look and whoever wrote this says they have the feeling a storm is coming. I guess, this is the final straw then.^_^ OMG after reading what i read top there, i actually feel that if the third cour happen, rather than 3 side battle, we can have 4 side battle here. EF Inaho lead(No corruption. Leading is Asseylum) vs Slaine Vers vs EF Corrupt Officials vs Emperor/Crutheo son/ Count Vers. This is going to be like Gundam Zeta all over again lol.^_^ |
Mar 10, 2015 9:46 AM
#1093
swn32 said: Icezera said: @swn It truly would be a huge cost to colonize Mars, but if the cost was too high, it is my opinion that they simply should not have attempted then until they were ready. You are right that they should have sent a research team only but blame bad writing. Earth sent a fully fledged colonization project (given that the project was deemed the MARS IMMIGRATION PROJECT) without fully understanding Mars. From what I gathered, the colonists moved to Mars on their own will without fully understanding the difficulties faced by colonization. Actually it was earth that failed to fill them in on the harshness of mars, at least thats what the promo materials stated. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:49 AM
#1094
casiopao said: swn32 said: Viktor_Otaku said: 2) No, tension and ill-will was started at that point, the promo material made that clear. The promo materials gives us a very good understanding of the setting of the story. Again ffs, we aren't talking about the tension. The split and the cause of the plight of vers was vers alone. Earth owed them nothing. Are you even reading my points? Actually, reading the aldnoah history there. I feel the EF does owe the Mars in some way some responsibilities here. First, they are supported by Earth's Corporation to move to Mars and colonize the planet. Second, the EF/UN there supported Mars Immigration Program to Mars for more than 300k+ humans to stay there. In the third point where Rayregelia started inciting anti Earth thoughts to the people of Mars is explained the reason is because most of the people who join the program to stay on Mars actually thought that this journey is going to be great as they are going to a new Frontier even when Rayregelia had keep informing the Earth government that Mars is highly difficult to live on. Which end up causing tons of anger to the public which feel they are lied to. This is actually slowly changing more and more into Zeon vs EFSF here. Zeon Zum Diekum vs EFSF corrupt official.T_T Icezera said: Welp, here's definitive proof that a civil war could be the next arc. Source: https://i.4cdn.org/a/1425959558091.jpg Translation: There's two groups in space right now, Slaine's hardliners and the Versian imperial faction that isn't too happy about their rise of power. They didn't announce any conflict officially but the truth is both factions have been keeping each other in check. Right after Slaine made the announcement of the Earthspace creation Klancain decided to pay him a visit supposedly to pay his respects as Saazbaum's successor. He's not as naive as his appearance makes him look and whoever wrote this says they have the feeling a storm is coming. I guess, this is the final straw then.^_^ OMG after reading what i read top there, i actually feel that if the third cour happen, rather than 3 side battle, we can have 4 side battle here. EF Inaho lead(No corruption. Leading is Asseylum) vs Slaine Vers vs EF Corrupt Officials vs Emperor/Crutheo son/ Count Vers. This is going to be like Gundam Zeta all over again lol.^_^ Well they better not screw it up like the first and second season, I look forward to Inaho progressing in terms of personality and Slaine becoming more understandable from a viewers point of view if that be the case. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:54 AM
#1095
Viktor_Otaku said: Actually it was earth that failed to fill them in on the harshness of mars, at least thats what the promo materials stated. Seems more like whole colonization project itself was a massive fail. I don't think the purpose of the project was definitively mentioned in the promo either. Also it seems more logical for people to migrate back to earth than to declare war. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:54 AM
#1096
swn32 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Actually it was earth that failed to fill them in on the harshness of mars, at least thats what the promo materials stated. Seems more like whole colonization project itself was a massive fail. I don't think the purpose of the project was definitively mentioned in the promo either. It was a massive fail. Blame the bad writing >_> |
Mar 10, 2015 9:58 AM
#1097
swn32 said: Viktor_Otaku said: Actually it was earth that failed to fill them in on the harshness of mars, at least thats what the promo materials stated. Seems more like whole colonization project itself was a massive fail. I don't think the purpose of the project was definitively mentioned in the promo either. Also it seems more logical for people to migrate back to earth than to declare war. Well you must remember that those colonist had most probably putted everything on the line just to get to Mars and start a new life, of course they are going to be piss when they get cheated by Earth, and yet they just can't pack up and leave, not when they had invested so much time and effort into it. It is a harsh life, but it is a new start for them and if Earth is not going not help them it is time they take matters into their own hands to persevere this chance at a new life. |
Mar 10, 2015 9:59 AM
#1098
| Let's not get too hyped guys. S3 is still a far time away if the rumors are even true. It'll be what we hope for, but they could easily just say fuck you and go for s2 end. I do hope for a larger battle with more factions simply because that's what creates so much more intrigue and makes the shows more enjoyable. Mecha was never just about the robots or piloting but about how these people piloting the machines make a greater impact in the world around them because they are piloting these machines. It gives characters who previously would not have had any say in the world a real chance to change the world because their influence is so much greater. Inaho would've been nothing without the Sleipnir, Slaine wouldn't have risen to his heights without the duel...Char Aznable would not have been able to create Neo Zeon and completely change the future of UC...etc |
Mar 10, 2015 10:01 AM
#1099
Viktor_Otaku said: Well you must remember that those colonist had most probably putted everything on the line just to get to Mars and start a new life, of course they are going to be piss when they get cheated by Earth, and yet they just can't pack up and leave, not when they had invested so much time and effort into it. It is highly likely that the project just expected colonists to develop mars by themselves and never considered it as an investment. Also, an ancient civilization spawned in mars of all places, a planet without usable resources. |
Mar 10, 2015 10:02 AM
#1100
Icezera said: Inaho would've been nothing without the Sleipnir Now now, we both know that's simply not true. |
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