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Nov 17, 2012 7:55 AM

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wakka9ca said:
I find Asians revolting too. I mean their looks and their behavior, it just disgusts me. It's totally natural reaction for me.

Hating their behavior isn't racism. Racism is basically assuming things about people from their race or hating/discriminating them based on nothing but their race. Disliking the behavouirs/customs of other races isn't racist. Its normal for some people to dislike things others like. Assuming things about them or disliking them based on nothing but their race is racism. Either way I don't see how this relates to homophobia.

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There is nothing wrong with mild homophobia. It's a perfectly "normal" reaction under the current sociocultural environment. No one is trying to argue with that. Same with racism. It's a perfectly "normal" reaction to reject what is different from you.

But saying it's not homophobic is like contradicting yourself.

Don't make up things like 'mild homophobia'. Fear, hatred, discrimination towards homosexuals is homophobia. Our 'reaction' is merely disgust at homosexual acts between males not at homosexuals themselves. Being disgusted by homosexual acts is not. You claim that its just because of our sociocultural environment. I say it's just because we are straight that we find it disgusting.
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steaminferno said:

Don't make up things like 'mild homophobia'. Fear, hatred, discrimination towards homosexuals is homophobia. Our 'reaction' is merely disgust at homosexual acts between males not at homosexuals themselves. Being disgusted by homosexual acts is not. You claim that its just because of our sociocultural environment. I say it's just because we are straight that we find it disgusting.


I am a straight male, I'm not aroused by it, but I don't find it disgusting, so find another reason for your disgust.
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rederoin said:
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Let's be honest. People who feel the need to come on a board and declare how they are dropping an animation because it shows two guy kissing are displaying a large degree of passive hostility towards homosexuality. They may not be saying "I hate homos", but the implication is certainly there.

I was just answering the thread title, I don't see how that is hostile.


And that they dropped it because of such a minor vanilla depiction of homosexuality certainly shows some degree of fear. After all, I doubt the show isn't going to do it again, it served the point the author wanted to make, and he is on to the rest of the plot. So what is with the over-reaction? If not hatred and fear.

That would imply the yoai is the only reason I or others dropped the show. I can't speak for others, but the yoai was not the only reason I dropped it.


What is it in particular that would make one drop this animation in episode 8 as opposed to 7 or 9? The obliqueness of this animation is the same, the jarring shifts of the plot are the same, the decreasing animation quality has likewise been occurring over time.

Now you personally may have dropped it for other reasons, but you are engaging in the "No True Scotsman" fallacy (excluding all the cases that do apply, so that you can maintain your argument), but the vast majority of people who have dropped it on this thread have said this is the reason why they have dropped it. I least respect them for being honest.

If you had said: "Yes I am dropping this animation because of X, Y, and Z." then you would have been answering this thread's title. But that isn't what you did, and that wasn't to what I was responding. Again, lets be honest, we all know why the question was asked. The first 10 or so posts definitely understood what was implied, you seem to be the only person who didn't get the point.

Kantori: The "dancing to puppet strings" would apply to a subset of people who hate homosexuals. The group that thinks it is "unnatural" or "instinctively" wrong. This group is merely responding to social conditioning of which they are totally unaware (it isn't unnatural, many animals, including primates engage in it), as such they are like puppets. If someone actually had a reason for disliking homosexuality then they would not be "puppets". In re-reading my post, I realized that I neither explained this, and used words that would indicate that I didn't make this distinction. This is my meaning.

Steaminferno: there is a difference between not watching that scene and dropping an animation because it had that scene. The first I would agree would show disgust and not fear (and this would include you), the latter though shows that something more is going on.

To be honest, if I didn't think the scene had a point, I would probably have dropped the animation. Not because they showed a homosexual scene, but because it would violate what I like about this animation (how everything has a point and it is leading somewhere - this isn't important in other animations that have other virtues (comedy or whatnot), but engaging in cheap sensationalism would have really disappointed me for this particular animation). But as I said above, there was a point, and I am totally fine and interested to see where this is leading.
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SetsukoHara said:
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You still haven't given us a proper explanation as to why disliking watching 2 guys kiss is homophobic.


Because it shows that you're not tolerant of it.

What do you mean by tolerant? That we should let them do as they wish or that we should not feel any kind of disgust at what they are doing. No one is trying to get the show to stop airing or stopping others from watching it. We're just expressing our dislike of it. Why? Look at the topic title?
Dislike = intolerance?
rederoin said:

On the other hand, you have to explain me how dropping a show JUST because there are some homosexuals in it is not homophobic AT ALL.

Don't want to watch two guys kissing --> drop. It's simple logic.
Nov 17, 2012 8:02 AM

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I seriously dont get why you would drop this show because of that. Are you still in the "ewh gays are disgusting" stage of childhood?
Nov 17, 2012 8:10 AM

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arilando said:
I seriously dont get why you would drop this show because of that. Are you still in the "ewh gays are disgusting" stage of childhood?


HA!HA!HA. Yeah, they are.
Nov 17, 2012 8:12 AM

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SetsukoHara said:
arilando said:
I seriously dont get why you would drop this show because of that. Are you still in the "ewh gays are disgusting" stage of childhood?


HA!HA!HA. Yeah, they are.


And it seems, they'll never leave it
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Nov 17, 2012 8:12 AM
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arilando said:
Are you still in the "ewh gays are disgusting" stage of childhood?


Seems like most people here are.

What I find ridiculuous is how people are suddenly freaking up even though it was mentioned several times that there would be same-sex relationships.
Nov 17, 2012 8:14 AM

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arilando said:
I seriously dont get why you would drop this show because of that. Are you still in the "ewh gays are disgusting" stage of childhood?

Please explain why "ewh gays are disgusting" is not enough reason for you to accept by said individual(s) to choosing to drop the show if they want to without resorting to a stage of childhood rebuttal?
Nov 17, 2012 8:16 AM

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I don't really care about the homosexuality, but I just think it's random as hell. Any reason why it turned out that way or is it a spoiler?

It's really funny how people are freaking out over homosexuality. Seriously, grow up. It's because of people like you that homosexuals have a hard time finding their place. But I guess this is MAL, where 3/4 of the community's retarded.
Nov 17, 2012 8:17 AM

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Solkiskey said:
I don't really care about the homosexuality, but I just think it's random as hell. Any reason why it turned out that way or is it a spoiler?


It was explained several episodes ago. Did you even watch this show before posting?
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Nov 17, 2012 8:19 AM

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Nucksen said:
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I don't really care about the homosexuality, but I just think it's random as hell. Any reason why it turned out that way or is it a spoiler?


It was explained several episodes ago. Did you even watch this show before posting?


I might've missed it, especially since EP5-7 were pretty darn boring.

You know, you should have just told me instead of being rude.

But I guess this is MAL, where 3/4 of the community's retarded.
Nov 17, 2012 8:20 AM
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arilando said:
Are you still in the "ewh gays are disgusting" stage of childhood?


It's not restricted to childhood. It is actually a realistic behavior by a good portion of adults. In other words, don't try to belittle the issue. It's not a childhood stage problem.

steaminferno said:
You claim that its just because of our sociocultural environment. I say it's just because we are straight that we find it disgusting.


Now the question you have to ask yourself is: why do you find it disgusting? Think about it.

kantori said:
arilando said:
I seriously dont get why you would drop this show because of that. Are you still in the "ewh gays are disgusting" stage of childhood?

Please explain why "ewh gays are disgusting" is not enough reason for you to accept by said individual(s) to choosing to drop the show if they want to without resorting to a stage of childhood rebuttal?


Now the question more related to the series is: the characters in the series are clearly bisexual or pansexual. It is a normal behavior in that social context. However, I think most defenders here are annoyed by the fact that a lot of people are dropping the series just because two boys kissed. While you have the right to do so, it does make some more meddlesome users frown upon that decision.

In other words, forget about the story, forget about the context, two boys kissed = ewwww so drop. There is nothing really wrong about this (I don't believe in right or wrong) but expect a lot of users to find this reaction a little bit immature.
wakka9caNov 17, 2012 8:25 AM
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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Nov 17, 2012 8:21 AM

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Solkiskey said:
I don't really care about the homosexuality, but I just think it's random as hell. Any reason why it turned out that way or is it a spoiler?

It's really funny how people are freaking out over homosexuality. Seriously, grow up. It's because of people like you that homosexuals have a hard time finding their place. But I guess this is MAL, where 3/4 of the community's retarded.

Shameless aren't you? Resorting to brand those who do not agree by implicating them to a degree of not being an adult while insulting our intelligence? One of the most disturbing comments I have yet to read. Have you no shame? You don't follow what you preach do you?
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kantori said:
arilando said:
I seriously dont get why you would drop this show because of that. Are you still in the "ewh gays are disgusting" stage of childhood?

Please explain why "ewh gays are disgusting" is not enough reason for you to accept by said individual(s) to choosing to drop the show if they want to without resorting to a stage of childhood rebuttal?


Can i add: Accept it and not label them as a homophobe.
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Nov 17, 2012 8:23 AM

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Not comfortable with yaoi/yuri = homophobic.

.. lol
Nov 17, 2012 8:24 AM

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kantori said:
Solkiskey said:
I don't really care about the homosexuality, but I just think it's random as hell. Any reason why it turned out that way or is it a spoiler?

It's really funny how people are freaking out over homosexuality. Seriously, grow up. It's because of people like you that homosexuals have a hard time finding their place. But I guess this is MAL, where 3/4 of the community's retarded.

Shameless aren't you? Resorting to brand those who do not agree by implicating them to a degree of not being an adult while insulting our intelligence? One of the most disturbing comments I have yet to read. Have you no shame? You don't follow what you preach do you?


Yes indeed, because there is nothing wrong with homosexuality, and freaking out over a god damn kiss is just plain overdue.
Nov 17, 2012 8:34 AM

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Solkiskey said:
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Solkiskey said:
I don't really care about the homosexuality, but I just think it's random as hell. Any reason why it turned out that way or is it a spoiler?


It was explained several episodes ago. Did you even watch this show before posting?


I might've missed it, especially since EP5-7 were pretty darn boring.

You know, you should have just told me instead of being rude.

But I guess this is MAL, where 3/4 of the community's retarded.


Short explanation:It is a part of the societal conditioning to avoid violence in the human community. Besides violence, Sex is the most effective stress relief so this culture is "programmed" to free love. The bisexuality is a mere side effect of the need to provide a higher number of possible stress relief candidates for the individual person. It's also quite logical, that 14-year-olds whose main drive is mostly sexual urges and the need of rebellion and individualization will completely prioritize on the former, if the latter isn't part of their conditioning at all while the former is actually encouraged.
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Nov 17, 2012 8:35 AM

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Solkiskey said:
Yes indeed, because there is nothing wrong with homosexuality, and freaking out over a god damn kiss is just plain overdue.

I'll re-write what you should of wrote.
Yes indeed, because I believe there is nothing wrong with homosexuality, and freaking out over a damn kiss is just plain overdue.

That is not for you to decide on those of us who do not like it it and for those who have chosen to drop the show because of it or partly their reasoning may of been. Also using the "It's because of people like you that " line appearing to me to be the latest trend to use in the tactic to shame individuals and step on them.
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kantori said:
arilando said:
I seriously dont get why you would drop this show because of that. Are you still in the "ewh gays are disgusting" stage of childhood?

Please explain why "ewh gays are disgusting" is not enough reason for you to accept by said individual(s) to choosing to drop the show if they want to without resorting to a stage of childhood rebuttal?


Because when they were children, they probably thought that hetero-sex was "disgusting" and they outgrew (I am guessing, though from many of the comments showing slack jawed drooling over what they do show, "outgrew" may not be the right word to use :-), so calling their reaction "childish" has some merit.

Is that an adult enough rebuttal for ya?
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Takuan_Soho said:
kantori said:
arilando said:
I seriously dont get why you would drop this show because of that. Are you still in the "ewh gays are disgusting" stage of childhood?

Please explain why "ewh gays are disgusting" is not enough reason for you to accept by said individual(s) to choosing to drop the show if they want to without resorting to a stage of childhood rebuttal?


Because when they were children, they probably thought that hetero-sex was "disgusting" and they outgrew (I am guessing, though from many of the comments showing slack jawed drooling over what they do show, "outgrew" may not be the right word to use :-), so calling their reaction "childish" has some merit.

Is that an adult enough rebuttal for ya?
Are you arilando?
Nov 17, 2012 8:39 AM

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Homophobia is fear of/hatred/discrimination towards gays. Ones opinions/reaction to their lifestyle has nothing to do with it. Does everyone agree with this?
Nov 17, 2012 8:41 AM

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steaminferno said:
Homophobia is fear of/hatred/discrimination towards gays. Ones opinions/reaction to their lifestyle has nothing to do with it. Does everyone agree with this?

Please look at the root words or better the Greek and you will find something amusing. You may find the definition given is in no shape close to what it truly means by tracing back to its roots. A factor many individuals seem to forget in the English speaking world.
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Nov 17, 2012 8:44 AM

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>RANDOM YAOI/YURI
hahaha oh my god where have you been since before this aired

Literally most people who picked this up pretty much knew the homosexuality/bisexuality that would happen in this series.

Plus, the other episode where they had the library thing talk to them pretty much said, no..., more like CONFIRMED that there will be a point where these kids will be in heat.

Also that Saki and Satoru almost did it when they were caught.

Not expecting any sort of sexual relationship between the characters means you're terrible at paying attention and just plain dumb.

Only expecting het and being okay with JUST HET, but hating the homosexuality puts you in the more homophobic/you're a terrible person side.

If you're dropping the anime just because of this episode, good actually. Less terrible people in a fandom is better.
Nov 17, 2012 8:45 AM

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I am fine with homosexual relationships. HOWEVER, please keep the intimacy to yourself.

It's the same way I don't give a damn if you have a relationship with a sex doll - keep that shit to yourself.

If I see you making out with it, I'm going to freak the hell out. It's that simple.

I've had gay friends in highschool - I treated them the same as everyone. They kept their intimacy to themselves and we all got along normally.

Is this so hard to understand for some of you here calling us homophobes? Seriously.
Nov 17, 2012 8:48 AM

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Yvese said:
I am fine with homosexual relationships. HOWEVER, please keep the intimacy to yourself.

It's the same way I don't give a damn if you have a relationship with a sex doll - keep that shit to yourself.

If I see you making out with it, I'm going to freak the hell out. It's that simple.

I've had gay friends in highschool - I treated them the same as everyone. They kept their intimacy to themselves and we all got along normally.

Is this so hard to understand for some of you here calling us homophobes? Seriously.


But there wasn't EVEN much kissing or whatever. NOTHING to freak out over. It's not like they explicity showed them having sex or some shit.
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steaminferno said:
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You still haven't given us a proper explanation as to why disliking watching 2 guys kiss is homophobic.


Because it shows that you're not tolerant of it.

What do you mean by tolerant? That we should let them do as they wish or that we should not feel any kind of disgust at what they are doing. No one is trying to get the show to stop airing or stopping others from watching it. We're just expressing our dislike of it. Why? Look at the topic title?
Dislike = intolerance?

I mean that you should not feel any kind of disgust at what they are doing which would be the normal reaction for anyone who isn't homophobic actually. I mean, I'm not homosexual, but I accept that some people are, so why should I freak out because a show depicts them, and that's what any tolerant person would do.
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kantori said:
Are you arilando?


Ah, was that a private challenge? My bad, I thought it was an open invitation, and I personally have a hard time passing up challenges. They are just so much fun!

Although I would have to say that your question missed arilando's point: dropping an animation because it showed one scene a person is uncomfortable about is a pretty childish reaction in and of itself, regardless of the reason they dropped it. Had he made his point more general, I think your question would have a lot more merit.
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Yvese said:
I am fine with homosexual relationships. HOWEVER, please keep the intimacy to yourself.


So homosexuals can't kiss in front of other people, but heterosexuals can?
Nov 17, 2012 8:52 AM

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ROFL WTF.

your homophobic reactions are disgusting. and the narrow minds are sad.

You know it's a matter of common sense to keep private stuff private, i agree. But this is a show, it doesn't go knock your door on its own, nobody is forcing you, and even more so, you all KNEW this was bound to happen, it's not like there weren't any hints or spoilers EVERYWHERE.

So, in coclusion, if you watched till episode 8 WILLINGLY, knowing this would eventually happen, and now you come here crying about it.... something is definitely wrong with your brain.
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Solkiskey said:


But there wasn't EVEN much kissing or whatever. NOTHING to freak out over. It's not like they explicity showed them having sex or some shit.
That doesn't matter. There were many impliications throughout the ep. Heck, there was a time when Satoru stuck his finger up another guys ass. Fuck. That.
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Yvese said:
I am fine with homosexual relationships. HOWEVER, please keep the intimacy to yourself.

It's the same way I don't give a damn if you have a relationship with a sex doll - keep that shit to yourself.

If I see you making out with it, I'm going to freak the hell out. It's that simple.

I've had gay friends in highschool - I treated them the same as everyone. They kept their intimacy to themselves and we all got along normally.

Is this so hard to understand for some of you here calling us homophobes? Seriously.

As clearly seen reading through the thread of such hostility, some want their preference to be accepted as normal and if said party doesn't adhere they resort to tactical means of verbal assaults. Some seek that one feels their wrath and attempt to shame us, insult our intelligence, call us a child, or whatever verbal tactic for their purpose. Stay strong it's going to get worse.
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SetsukoHara said:

I mean that you should not feel any kind of disgust at what they are doing which would be the normal reaction for anyone who isn't homophobic actually. I mean, I'm not homosexual, but I accept that some people are, so why should I freak out because a show depicts them, and that's what any tolerant person would do.


Homophobia is the hatred or fear of homosexuals - that is, lesbians and gay men - sometimes leading to acts of violence and expressions of hostility.

From http://www.adl.org/hate-patrol/homophobia.asp

So what exactly is homophobia? I don't care what homosexuals do. I do think homosexual acts are morally wrong. I feel disgust when I see homosexual acts between males? Does this make me homophobic?
Nov 17, 2012 8:58 AM

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kantori said:
Yvese said:
I am fine with homosexual relationships. HOWEVER, please keep the intimacy to yourself.

It's the same way I don't give a damn if you have a relationship with a sex doll - keep that shit to yourself.

If I see you making out with it, I'm going to freak the hell out. It's that simple.

I've had gay friends in highschool - I treated them the same as everyone. They kept their intimacy to themselves and we all got along normally.

Is this so hard to understand for some of you here calling us homophobes? Seriously.

As clearly seen reading through the thread of such hostility, some want their preference to be accepted as normal and if said party doesn't adhere they resort to tactical means of verbal assaults. Some seek that one feels their wrath and attempt to shame us, insult our intelligence, call us a child, or whatever verbal tactic for their purpose. Stay strong it's going to get worse.
Acting like an immature child with 0 tolerance for a little homosexuality (which happens to be part of the plot as well), then yes, your intelligence and maturity will very much be put into question.
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steaminferno said:
SetsukoHara said:

I mean that you should not feel any kind of disgust at what they are doing which would be the normal reaction for anyone who isn't homophobic actually. I mean, I'm not homosexual, but I accept that some people are, so why should I freak out because a show depicts them, and that's what any tolerant person would do.


Homophobia is the hatred or fear of homosexuals - that is, lesbians and gay men - sometimes leading to acts of violence and expressions of hostility.

From http://www.adl.org/hate-patrol/homophobia.asp

So what exactly is homophobia? I don't care what homosexuals do. I do think homosexual acts are morally wrong. I feel disgust when I see homosexual acts between males? Does this make me homophobic?


Well, yes.
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kantori said:
Yvese said:
I am fine with homosexual relationships. HOWEVER, please keep the intimacy to yourself.

It's the same way I don't give a damn if you have a relationship with a sex doll - keep that shit to yourself.

If I see you making out with it, I'm going to freak the hell out. It's that simple.

I've had gay friends in highschool - I treated them the same as everyone. They kept their intimacy to themselves and we all got along normally.

Is this so hard to understand for some of you here calling us homophobes? Seriously.

As clearly seen reading through the thread of such hostility, some want their preference to be accepted as normal and if said party doesn't adhere they resort to tactical means of verbal assaults. Some seek that one feels their wrath and attempt to shame us, insult our intelligence, call us a child, or whatever verbal tactic for their purpose. Stay strong it's going to get worse.


I don't care if you're homophobic, but at least, admit it. What Yvese is basically saying with his post is that he is OK with gay people as long as they are not doing gay stuff, like kissing. But doesn't that basically mean that you have a problem with homosexuality?
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It's sad that people would drop this even though they enjoy the series. Be back in 15 years when your subconscious let's you admit you're gay and doesn't need to shut out every reminder ;)
I probably regret this post by now.
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steaminferno said:
SetsukoHara said:

I mean that you should not feel any kind of disgust at what they are doing which would be the normal reaction for anyone who isn't homophobic actually. I mean, I'm not homosexual, but I accept that some people are, so why should I freak out because a show depicts them, and that's what any tolerant person would do.


Homophobia is the hatred or fear of homosexuals - that is, lesbians and gay men - sometimes leading to acts of violence and expressions of hostility.

From http://www.adl.org/hate-patrol/homophobia.asp

So what exactly is homophobia? I don't care what homosexuals do. I do think homosexual acts are morally wrong. I feel disgust when I see homosexual acts between males? Does this make me homophobic?


Yes.

Synonym of disgust: hatred, hatefulness...

http://thesaurus.com/browse/disgust
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But there wasn't EVEN much kissing or whatever. NOTHING to freak out over. It's not like they explicity showed them having sex or some shit.
That doesn't matter. There were many impliications throughout the ep. Heck, there was a time when Satoru stuck his finger up another guys ass. Fuck. That.
So wait, you're bothered by the yaoi kissing and ass slapping, but you watch stuff like School Days and Yosuga no Sora and you're completely fine with it as long as it's het????/?////??/////?????//
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Takuan_Soho said:
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Are you arilando?


Ah, was that a private challenge? My bad, I thought it was an open invitation, and I personally have a hard time passing up challenges. They are just so much fun!

Although I would have to say that your question missed arilando's point: dropping an animation because it showed one scene a person is uncomfortable about is a pretty childish reaction in and of itself, regardless of the reason they dropped it. Had he made his point more general, I think your question would have a lot more merit.

It's an open discussion but the question is re-directed to the individual due to the manner of how said person chose to write it. I understood what arilando was saying and asked why is that not enough reason for him/her to accept whomever chose to drop it as enough reason. This also factors into why I chose to essentially ignore your rebuttal. If the individual wants to drop it because of their reason that is their choice not yours or anybody elses. Asking sincere questions as to further explain their reasoning is healthy but if the structure of the sentence(s) isn't aimed at that intent but to shame them as if they did something wrong then what purpose does that do? Look at how people treat one another just on this board alone. It's disturbing.
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steaminferno said:

So what exactly is homophobia? I don't care what homosexuals do. I do think homosexual acts are morally wrong. I feel disgust when I see homosexual acts between males? Does this make me homophobic?


Originally it was a clinical term for people who hated homosexuals because they were afraid they were homosexuals. It is no longer recognized as a psychological condition. Since then it has been adopted by the pro-homosexual community as a pejorative term akin to "racist", to denote someone who hates homosexuality.

So no it doesn't in the first instance, it may in the second. Whether or not it does I believe, would be determined on how well you can argue why you feel disgust and think it is immoral. The deciding factor would be whether or not a neutral third party would agree with the label "homophobe" or with you. In short, its a battle over definitions. Knowing this, good luck with your argument.
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SetsukoHara said:
kantori said:
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I am fine with homosexual relationships. HOWEVER, please keep the intimacy to yourself.

It's the same way I don't give a damn if you have a relationship with a sex doll - keep that shit to yourself.

If I see you making out with it, I'm going to freak the hell out. It's that simple.

I've had gay friends in highschool - I treated them the same as everyone. They kept their intimacy to themselves and we all got along normally.

Is this so hard to understand for some of you here calling us homophobes? Seriously.

As clearly seen reading through the thread of such hostility, some want their preference to be accepted as normal and if said party doesn't adhere they resort to tactical means of verbal assaults. Some seek that one feels their wrath and attempt to shame us, insult our intelligence, call us a child, or whatever verbal tactic for their purpose. Stay strong it's going to get worse.


I don't care if you're homophobic, but at least, admit it. What Yvese is basically saying with his post is that he is OK with gay people as long as they are not doing gay stuff, like kissing. But doesn't that basically mean that you have a problem with homosexuality?

The problem is with watching it, gay people doing it not a problem at all.

Why is it homophobia if you don't enjoy BL/yaoi?

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So I'm a fangirl because I'm calling out your BS? Riiight. You kinda ARE a homophobe if you're disgusted by the relationship between two males. Like, that's pretty much the definition.
FFS... A phobia is an irrational fear. Being against homosexuality or being repulsed by such behavior isn't homophobia.

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Homophobes. Homophobes everywhere.
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Nov 17, 2012 9:10 AM

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But there wasn't EVEN much kissing or whatever. NOTHING to freak out over. It's not like they explicity showed them having sex or some shit.
That doesn't matter. There were many impliications throughout the ep. Heck, there was a time when Satoru stuck his finger up another guys ass. Fuck. That.
So wait, you're bothered by the yaoi kissing and ass slapping, but you watch stuff like School Days and Yosuga no Sora and you're completely fine with it as long as it's het????/?////??/////?????//
What part of yaoi is disgusting to me don't you understand? Do those two anime have yaoi? No? Then I'm not disgusted by it. If something disgusts me, I wouldn't watch it.

It's pretty simple.
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Not comfortable with yaoi/yuri = homophobic.

.. lol

MAL logic. The shitstorm on /a/ in more enjoyable, atleast there are barely any people being hostile by referring to everybody who dislikes BL/yaoi as "homophobes".

Oh well, anime communities in general are shitty.

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It's disappointing that people are dropping it because they don't like homosexuality...
I intend to watch it, because that shouldn't matter. However, if it goes full on hentai, that will be the point I will drop this anime.
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SetsukoHara said:
kantori said:
Yvese said:
I am fine with homosexual relationships. HOWEVER, please keep the intimacy to yourself.

It's the same way I don't give a damn if you have a relationship with a sex doll - keep that shit to yourself.

If I see you making out with it, I'm going to freak the hell out. It's that simple.

I've had gay friends in highschool - I treated them the same as everyone. They kept their intimacy to themselves and we all got along normally.

Is this so hard to understand for some of you here calling us homophobes? Seriously.

As clearly seen reading through the thread of such hostility, some want their preference to be accepted as normal and if said party doesn't adhere they resort to tactical means of verbal assaults. Some seek that one feels their wrath and attempt to shame us, insult our intelligence, call us a child, or whatever verbal tactic for their purpose. Stay strong it's going to get worse.


I don't care if you're homophobic, but at least, admit it. What Yvese is basically saying with his post is that he is OK with gay people as long as they are not doing gay stuff, like kissing. But doesn't that basically mean that you have a problem with homosexuality?

Stretching it a bit by your assumptions contained in Yvese comment and on me aren't you? I understand as to why, seen it many many times. My position is the same as Yvese. Also, I have homosexual friends and they know my position all too well and I worry about them as I do with you and others who follow the ways of this world.
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I don't care if you're homophobic, but at least, admit it. What Yvese is basically saying with his post is that he is OK with gay people as long as they are not doing gay stuff, like kissing. But doesn't that basically mean that you have a problem with homosexuality?
Let's make this a little clearer here.

I'm ok with gay people. They can do gay stuff AS LONG as they keep it to themselves. They want to fuck each other in the ass in private, please do so. Just keep that away from my eyes and ears. I don't need to know or hear that you just gave johny a reach around.
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Why is it homophobia if you don't enjoy BL/yaoi?


It's not about enjoying it. I don't enjoy BL or yaoi, I wouldn't watch a show just because it has BL. But I just wouldn't drop an anime just because it has BL. Feeling disgusted because you saw two guys kissing is homophobic.
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Yvese said:
SetsukoHara said:


I don't care if you're homophobic, but at least, admit it. What Yvese is basically saying with his post is that he is OK with gay people as long as they are not doing gay stuff, like kissing. But doesn't that basically mean that you have a problem with homosexuality?
Let's make this a little clearer here.

I'm ok with gay people. They can do gay stuff AS LONG as they keep it to themselves. They want to fuck each other in the ass in private, please do so. Just keep that away from my eyes and ears. I don't need to know or hear that you just gave johny a reach around.


So Homosexuals have to hide themselves, but not heterosexuals?
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