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Meusnier said:
No, it is not obvious, it is an obvious leap of logic. This is exactly what all conspiracy theories are about. People "follow the money" and pretend that it allows them to establish causality. Netanyahu might not be a saint (litotes), but he did not order Hamas to slaughter his own civilians, that is for sure...
No, it is not obvious, it is an obvious leap of logic. This is exactly what all conspiracy theories are about. People "follow the money" and pretend that it allows them to establish causality. Netanyahu might not be a saint (litotes), but he did not order Hamas to slaughter his own civilians, that is for sure...
@Meusnier Yeah, just call it a conspiracy theory even though all the news articles I quoted came from mainstream sources that default criticize conspiracy theories.
Your way of thinking reminds me of the reason I want to leave the West for Asia.
| @MalchikRepaid Your news articles are utterly irrelevant if they fail to establish the causal link you deemed obvious. And conspiracy theorists can at best offer loose inferences, never hard proofs. The odd part in this phenomenon is that they believe in those vague evidence as if they were the gospels. This is not a West/East opposition for conspiracism has become a worldwide phenomenon. For example, a lot of people in the Middle East believe that the CIA (or Mossad) was behind 9/11 and that Bin Laden had nothing to do with this terrorist attack... |
Reply to MalchikRepaid
Meusnier said:
@MalchikRepaid Your news articles are utterly irrelevant if they fail to establish the causal link you deemed obvious. And conspiracy theorists can at best offer loose inferences, never hard proofs. The odd part in this phenomenon is that they believe in those vague evidence as if they were the gospels.
This is not a West/East opposition for conspiracism has become a worldwide phenomenon. For example, a lot of people in the Middle East believe that the CIA (or Mossad) was behind 9/11 and that Bin Laden had nothing to do with this terrorist attack...
@MalchikRepaid Your news articles are utterly irrelevant if they fail to establish the causal link you deemed obvious. And conspiracy theorists can at best offer loose inferences, never hard proofs. The odd part in this phenomenon is that they believe in those vague evidence as if they were the gospels.
This is not a West/East opposition for conspiracism has become a worldwide phenomenon. For example, a lot of people in the Middle East believe that the CIA (or Mossad) was behind 9/11 and that Bin Laden had nothing to do with this terrorist attack...
@Meusnier Good, because the People's Republic of China is planning to cut ties with Israel next year. And these conspiracy theories of your definition kinda match what China is doing right now.
It's Israel's lost. No need to be angry about this.
Edit: I forgot to say. You didn't give me evidence that the links I provided are conspiracy theories by nature. You just keep saying "conspiracy theory!" over and over again.
| @MalchikRepaid Mm okay, I fail to see what it has to do with this conversation. ? Your claims are conspiracies, not the news article that you have shared (and do not prove the said claims, implying that Netanyahu is behind the October 7 terrorist attack). Important nuance that you should not miss, were you of good faith. |
| So Turkey is aware that Israel has Nukes but is openly threating them https://twitter.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1724858956172943709 Is there a Darwin Award for nations? |
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| This is not as if Israel could use its nukes without daddy's approval anyway... |
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| Since the beginning of the ground operation: - 559 wounded; 219 lightly, 213 moderately, and 127 severely. - 97 dead. Worth noting that some of the wounded, including officers, are already back fighting in Gaza. |
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| The ultimate failure of Macron's "en même temps" policy: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67657837 |
| https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1734710908755062820 Game of the Year |
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| There's a billboard in Fairfield, CA that says, "Hamas is your problem, too." It's good to see foreign governments buying ad space to influence US policy and it not be called Russian interference for a change. |
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| Today Israel's Defense Minister said that Turkey is controlled by Hamas. This is what you say when you are winning. |
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| Israel took inspiration from Aeon Flux and is now creating a no-man's land filled with turrets machinegunning anyone that enters. https://twitter.com/Jewtastic/status/1750695624809566439 |
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| With friends like these who needs enemies https://twitter.com/Brestav/status/1754898643310493913 |
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Iran launches drones at Israel in retaliatory attack Iran has launched drones at Israel, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said on Saturday night. It said the wave could take hours to reach Israel. It comes after days of anticipation that Iran was preparing to attack Israel in retaliation for a strike which killed a top Iranian commander. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said the country's defence systems have been deployed and that Israel's armed forces were ready. "I established a clear principle - whoever hurts us, we hurt him. We will protect ourselves from any threat and we will do so with coolness and determination," he said. This is a break news story, please return to this page for more details. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68810053 See also: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68799234 |
| Then: Iran not doing shit when the psychopathic CIA eviscerated Soleimani with a flying sword after he flew to Iraq to rally the proxied after a botched embassy raid that was foiled by waiting Apache gunships. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10663655/qasem-soleimani-ring-airstrike/ Now: Bidens State Department getting fleeced by Persian rug salesmen since the Obama days, every day. https://www.reuters.com/world/political-pressure-builds-biden-strike-iran-after-us-deaths-2024-01-29/ https://apnews.com/article/un-yemen-houthis-red-sea-us-russia-1caf7db8248f86efba31884d71a7fa69 |
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| Hamas did a lot more damage and actually killed Jews with a tiny fraction of the resources that Iran has. Get gud, Khomeini. |
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deg said: US tells Israel it won't join any retaliatory strikes on Iran https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68813496 "Iran attack 'will be met with response', Israel's army chief says" https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-middle-east-68737710?src_origin=BBCS_BBC |
Blue Brothers: "I hate Palestinian Nazis" Black Lives Matter, Antifa, SJWs/Woke mobs, people like George Soros, pro Palestine freaks and the Democrat party are the Nazis of my lifetime. |
LaytonPuzzle27Apr 17, 2024 7:16 AM
| LOL WORLD WAR 3 HERE WE COME! https://files.catbox.moe/is0hwo.png |
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John Bolton right now.  My penis can only get so erect |
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| Like them or not. Israel has been occupuing palestine for more than 70 years. Hamas has the right to armed resistance |
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sirius said: Like them or not. Israel has been occupuing palestine for more than 70 years. Hamas has the right to armed resistance By the way, what do you think about the current attitude of Egypt? |
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sirius said:
Like them or not. Israel has been occupuing palestine for more than 70 years. Hamas has the right to armed resistance
Like them or not. Israel has been occupuing palestine for more than 70 years. Hamas has the right to armed resistance
By the way, what do you think about the current attitude of Egypt?
| @Meusnier how would u describe Egypt's attitude? Egypt cant do anything due its financial crisis. The slightest political pressure can spill catastrophe. Egypt's government wont host Gazan refugees for multiple reasons: 1) we dont wish to give up any part of sinai which we have taken back in a victory against israel, any compromise in this regards means the end for the legitimacy of Egypts ruling class 2) we have more than 15 million refugees including syrians, yemenis, sudanis, iraqis and even palestinians. Given the current financial crisis and water shortage we cant host 2 million more 3) Egypt agreeing to host gazans will mean the end of the palestinian cause and more land to israel. This will be seen as treason by the countries of the Arab league. Btw i dont think egypt is arab |
siriusApr 21, 2024 3:13 PM
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| The Israeli military has begun calling on Palestinians to evacuate eastern neighborhoods of Rafah, those close to the Israeli border, ahead of a planned offensive in the area. The civilians are being called to move to expanded humanitarian zone in the al-Mawasi and Khan Younis area. |
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| More details: The evacuation is only of the eastern neighborhood of Rafah for now, and not the entire city in southern Gaza. The Kerem Shalom Crossing with southern Gaza still remains closed following yesterday's deadly rocket attack on troops in the area, but it may open following a new assessment of the situation. The IDF says it still will try to maintain the supply of humanitarian aid at the same level despite the closure of the crossing. Other crossings will remain open, as work continues on the construction of the American's floating pier in central Gaza. The IDF is now beginning to drop flyers in eastern Rafah, send SMSes, and make phone calls to Palestinians with instructions on which zones need to be evacuated and which routes to take to the humanitarian zone. The expanded humanitarian zone in the al-Mawasi and Khan Younis areas includes field hospitals and tent camps for displaced Palestinians. |
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| Defense Minister Yoav Gallant told his American counterpart, US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, in a phone call overnight that Israel was left with no choice but to launch its offensive in southern Gaza's Rafah. Gallant updated Austin on the deadly rocket barrage from Rafah on an IDF position on the border, his office says. The minister detailed "the many efforts that the State of Israel is making to reach an [agreement] for the release of hostages and a temporary ceasefire, and said that at this stage Hamas refuses any proposal that would allow this." He told Austin that "there was no choice left and the meaning was the start of the Israeli operation in Rafah." "Gallant thanked the secretary of defense for the close cooperation, and emphasized that the US has an important role in advancing the dialogue for the release of the hostages held captive by Hamas," the ministry adds. |
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Reply to MalchikRepaid
This is as true as winter is cold and summer is hot.
| @MalchikRepaid TRT should lose all funding once Erdogan is out Jesus Christ. State-sanctioned antisemitism, can't be any more ashamed. |
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| Artillery barrage on eastern Rafah and tanks moving in: https://files.catbox.moe/f1t4en.mp4 Palestinian media report a series of Israeli strikes and flares launched over the eastern Rafah area, where the IDF issued an evacuation order earlier today. It is not immediately clear if this is the start of ground operations in the area. Earlier this evening, IDF Spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said the military was readying for ground operations in eastern Rafah following the evacuation order. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office says the war cabinet "unanimously decided that Israel is continuing with the operation in Rafah to exert military pressure on Hamas in order to advance the release of our hostages and the other goals of the war." The statement adds that Israel will send a delegation to continue hostage talks despite that "the Hamas proposal is far from Israel's necessary requirements." The IDF announces that troops are currently striking and operating against Hamas sites "in a targeted manner" in eastern Rafah. The military says it will provide further information on the operation soon. |
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| Fighting in the area of the Rafah crossing (video from the Egyptian side): https://files.catbox.moe/9o09xh.mp4 https://files.catbox.moe/g8gtli.mp4 More videos from the Rafah crossing/Philadelphi corridor: https://files.catbox.moe/2ysqzf.mp4 https://files.catbox.moe/plypf0.mp4 Good morning, Rafah! https://files.catbox.moe/gowq0b.mp4 |
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The Israeli cabinet(s) unanimously voted to call Biden's handlers' bluff and approve the "deepening of the operation in Rafah", whatever exactly that means: |
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| Twelve soldiers were wounded after being stung by wasps in the southern Gaza Strip earlier today. The incident occured amid an operation by the Gaza Division's Southern Brigade in the border area, near the community of Nirim. A tank had driven over a large wasp nest, leading the insects to sting the troops. One of the soldiers is listed in moderate condition, and the other 11 are lightly hurt, the IDF says. They were taken to a hospital in Israel for treatment. |
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| IDF found the body of Shani Louk. https://ghostarchive.org/archive/w6eMt |
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Reply to Auron
@MalchikRepaid
TRT should lose all funding once Erdogan is out Jesus Christ. State-sanctioned antisemitism, can't be any more ashamed.
TRT should lose all funding once Erdogan is out Jesus Christ. State-sanctioned antisemitism, can't be any more ashamed.
| @Auron_ antizionism is not antisemitism. Zionism propagates ethnic supremacy and stealing land any decent human should be against it. |
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@Auron_ antizionism is not antisemitism. Zionism propagates ethnic supremacy and stealing land any decent human should be against it.
| @sirius You can be an anti-Zionist non-anti-Semite. But it means you're not very realistic. And the problem with the video is not opposition to Zionism. There is a lot of falsehoods, half truths and omissions and misleading presentation. To quickly go over it: Not all Jews are equal in Israel is not true. While talking of the displacement of 750,000 Palestinians, it does not mention what lead to it at all. It was the 1947-1948 civil war and 1948 war, instigated by the Palestinians. Civil wars are often most destructive because there is nowhere to flee to or any guarantee that the party will hold their end of the bargain for peace and not accelerate militarisation while you've stopped to get an edge over you, leading to a Nash equilibrium of fight/fight. That the Baghdad bombings were instigated by Mossad or Zionist spies to create hysteria and accelerate Iraqi Jew aliyah is just an unsubstantiated claim. There's been investigations on this without evidence pointing to that direction A more parsimonious explanation is that after the 1948 war and the subsequent expulsion of a lot of Palestinians, people grew very distrustful of Jews even if they're not Israeli and took part in no Nakba. And they started expelling their Jews. And some were very angry and they bombed Jewish targets in Baghdad. A lot fewer assumptions. There are systemic discrimination against the working class especially if they are of different ethnic background everywhere in the world. That doesn't mean they see non-Ashkenazi as lesser, only that their systems are imperfect against groups that started with less means. Same as US, same as Canada, same as anywhere else. Forced sterilization of Ethiopian Jews (Beta Israel) is a myth. You could literally ask Ethiopian Jews, there are 160.5 thousand living there. That would be more than 90% living there and not Ethiopia, again why if they were as the conspiracies say? Yemeni Jews being abducted for experimentation or sold into Ashkenazi families is a conspiracy theory. Israel has made public 200,000 documents about missing Yemeni children during the rescue of hundreds of thousands of Yemenis in Operation Magic Carpet. It was a massive influx of refugees to what was then a very poor country. The refugees lived in tents. Children got ill, taken to hospitals where many died, for whatever reason the family wasn't told. When the documents were opened all but 50 or so were explained as having died in hospitals. Those where their children's fate could not be traced were given recompense. The video tries its best to ascribe Zionism to Ashkenazim when reality, in modern Israel vast majority of Israelis, whether their heritage be Iraqi, Ethiopian, Yemeni, Syrian, Polish, or Russian, are Zionists. They want to have a Jewish state in the land of Israel. And that the video muddies the water with conspiracies and half truths from the past does not change the fact that modern Israel is a multiethnic project as can be seen from the diversity of the approval of the people, not a white European project. Multiethnic projects can be immoral too, you can say it. But when one lies about it they lose all credibility. And if the way in which one lies goes into antisemitic conspiracies, then it's a publication that should go bankrupt. |
AuronMay 18, 2024 3:49 PM
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