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Aug 11, 2015 11:33 PM

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astroprogs said:

Ah, sorry I didn't know his name. Apparently that's Phantom of the Opera, as Sherou said.

Ahahah, my Cu might have oneshotted him with his np ability so I don't even remember that fight.

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Is there a list of top-tiers?

Attila
Jeanne
Everyone Else.
Aug 11, 2015 11:49 PM

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Ahahah, my Cu might have oneshotted him with his np ability so I don't even remember that fight.

That's what probably happened for you, yeah. In my case, the effect missed and and Gae Bolg just dealt damage.
Aug 12, 2015 12:06 AM

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I really need to somehow roll another CuLancer or two so the NP can be overcharged :[

Meh, as long as you are in 20's and have a decent sasaki for dragons, France is relatively OK.



The only really hard fights are against Carmilla(because she keeps stealing your NP values to spam her's) and the last few fights. Fighting Jeanne sounds about as fun as you can expect.
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Congratulations on finally upgrading Cu's NP, Fai. It was a nice surprise seeing Cu overcharge.
Aug 12, 2015 6:43 AM

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What can I say, Lancer's NP is a cheatcode level of greatness that helps to avoid very annoying stuff :P
Aug 12, 2015 10:18 AM

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Dont remind of that fucking sao reject design. Got that fucker 12 times before anything decent -_-
Aug 12, 2015 12:39 PM

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Hardest fight in France for me was against shadow Jeanne, everything else was alright. I didn't even have sasaki, I was using someone's Jing Ke for all of france.

Rome is a lot easier so far though, might be because someone has a level 40 Emiya in my friends list though.
Aug 12, 2015 2:05 PM

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Yeah I am sure this game is one giant scam to get money
Aug 12, 2015 2:22 PM

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CookingPriest said:
Yeah I am sure this game is one giant scam to get money


Is this your first mobile game?
Aug 12, 2015 2:36 PM

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No, this is like 10+th mobage i played, but this has some of the worst roll percentages ever

Getting 5 black keys in one roll is not something that should happen in "premium" roll.
Aug 12, 2015 2:47 PM

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Oh, that's some bad luck. Well, more fodder to level up your other craft essence.
Aug 12, 2015 3:11 PM

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No, this is like 10+th mobage i played, but this has some of the worst roll percentages ever

Getting 5 black keys in one roll is not something that should happen in "premium" roll.
Funnily enough, I have yet to roll a black key at all, Instead I keep getting Rins pendent and the dagger.
Aug 13, 2015 3:29 AM

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ShinsoPriest said:
Oh, that's some bad luck. Well, more fodder to level up your other craft essence.

"Bad luck" is little more than an excuse.

Destiny has simply doomed him to failure.
I am the Priest of my church
Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood
I have trolled over a thousand users
Unknown to sympathy, nor known to apathy
Withstood Shirou to eat Mapo Tofu
Yet, my question will never be answered
So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works!
Aug 13, 2015 4:36 AM

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TrueKirei said:
ShinsoPriest said:
Oh, that's some bad luck. Well, more fodder to level up your other craft essence.

"Bad luck" is little more than an excuse.

Destiny has simply doomed him to failure.

Hey Kirei, I was wondering who uploaded that pic.

Question: Why in a game that doesn't even feature you, you keep on tormenting people by messing up every roll with black keys?
Aug 13, 2015 4:53 AM

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astroprogs said:
TrueKirei said:

"Bad luck" is little more than an excuse.

Destiny has simply doomed him to failure.

Hey Kirei, I was wondering who uploaded that pic.

Question: Why in a game that doesn't even feature you, you keep on tormenting people by messing up every roll with black keys?

Greetings!
As you know, I am not one to torment people without reason. Therefore, you can assume that this is divine intervention against you.
It is childish to blame me or anyone else for the actions taken by our Lord in heaven. There is no one to blame but yourself.
I am the Priest of my church
Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood
I have trolled over a thousand users
Unknown to sympathy, nor known to apathy
Withstood Shirou to eat Mapo Tofu
Yet, my question will never be answered
So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works!
Aug 13, 2015 5:25 AM

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TrueKirei said:
astroprogs said:

Hey Kirei, I was wondering who uploaded that pic.

Question: Why in a game that doesn't even feature you, you keep on tormenting people by messing up every roll with black keys?

Greetings!
As you know, I am not one to torment people without reason. Therefore, you can assume that this is divine intervention against you.
It is childish to blame me or anyone else for the actions taken by our Lord in heaven. There is no one to blame but yourself.

Sorry, stopped reading at "I am not one to torment people without reason".
Aug 13, 2015 11:21 AM

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astroprogs said:
TrueKirei said:

Greetings!
As you know, I am not one to torment people without reason. Therefore, you can assume that this is divine intervention against you.
It is childish to blame me or anyone else for the actions taken by our Lord in heaven. There is no one to blame but yourself.

Sorry, stopped reading at "I am not one to torment people without reason".

*chuckles*
You are sharper than I gave you credit for, astroprogs :)
I am the Priest of my church
Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood
I have trolled over a thousand users
Unknown to sympathy, nor known to apathy
Withstood Shirou to eat Mapo Tofu
Yet, my question will never be answered
So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works!
Aug 13, 2015 12:21 PM

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Hoping to find a CuLancer using the Zelretch craft essence so I can friendlist him and cheese some servant battles.
Aug 13, 2015 12:31 PM

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You are sharper than I gave you credit for, astroprogs :)

Why thank y-WAIT A MINUTE!
Aug 13, 2015 2:59 PM

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ShinsoPriest said:
Hoping to find a CuLancer using the Zelretch craft essence so I can friendlist him and cheese some servant battles.

I got one if you still need it. My ID is in the other topic

Aug 13, 2015 3:23 PM

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Sherou said:
ShinsoPriest said:
Hoping to find a CuLancer using the Zelretch craft essence so I can friendlist him and cheese some servant battles.

I got one if you still need it. My ID is in the other topic


Nice, thanks. Apparently, inviting didn't work yesterday, so I reinvited everyone in that topic.
Aug 13, 2015 6:29 PM

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Rome is really easy. When does it get hard? I just killed badass flaming Leonidas.

I also just rolled Jing Ke twice in a row. Is this a sign from the gods that I shouldn't have replaced her for Stheno as my Assassin?
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Can I just restart GO if Gae Bolg fails to OHKO?
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Sherou said:
Rome is really easy. When does it get hard? I just killed badass flaming Leonidas.

I also just rolled Jing Ke twice in a row. Is this a sign from the gods that I shouldn't have replaced her for Stheno as my Assassin?

Jing Ke is much better than Stheno IMO. She's a 3-star Sasaki with the only drawback of her NP is the 1k HP cost. It even has an instant kill chance like Gae Bolg.
Stheno's stealing NP gauge skill is great, but she's pretty weak sauce when it comes to everything else.
Aug 13, 2015 9:17 PM

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Can I just restart GO if Gae Bolg fails to OHKO?

Depends on how fast you are. The game saves pretty quickly.
Aug 13, 2015 9:52 PM

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astroprogs said:
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Can I just restart GO if Gae Bolg fails to OHKO?

Depends on how fast you are. The game saves pretty quickly.

Huh? I restart it all the time, but it makes you go to the beginning of the quest. Does it actually save midquest for you guys?
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Depending on when I exit the app, it'll start me back at the beginning of the turn I was in. You'll get a little prompt beforehand, something about AP. Click the right button and it'll take you back to the fight.
Aug 13, 2015 10:59 PM

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Sherou said:
Rome is really easy. When does it get hard? I just killed badass flaming Leonidas.

I also just rolled Jing Ke twice in a row. Is this a sign from the gods that I shouldn't have replaced her for Stheno as my Assassin?


The end of rome is hard-er. Prepare for return of dragons and a dick monster from hell.
Aug 13, 2015 11:25 PM

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astroprogs said:
Sherou said:
Rome is really easy. When does it get hard? I just killed badass flaming Leonidas.

I also just rolled Jing Ke twice in a row. Is this a sign from the gods that I shouldn't have replaced her for Stheno as my Assassin?

Jing Ke is much better than Stheno IMO. She's a 3-star Sasaki with the only drawback of her NP is the 1k HP cost. It even has an instant kill chance like Gae Bolg.
Stheno's stealing NP gauge skill is great, but she's pretty weak sauce when it comes to everything else.

Figures. If she wasn't my only 4 star servant I wouldn't feel obligated to level her. She does have Divinity EX to boost damage though, so I won't say that she's that weak sauce. Her NP is useless against anything that's not a Berserker/Rider male or weak fodder, though.
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The end of rome is hard-er. Prepare for return of dragons and a dick monster from hell.

I guess it's time to bust out the Saviors of France once again. Though dick monsters aren't exactly in their area of expertise.
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Aug 14, 2015 12:42 AM

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astroprogs said:
Sherou said:
Rome is really easy. When does it get hard? I just killed badass flaming Leonidas.

I also just rolled Jing Ke twice in a row. Is this a sign from the gods that I shouldn't have replaced her for Stheno as my Assassin?

Jing Ke is much better than Stheno IMO. She's a 3-star Sasaki with the only drawback of her NP is the 1k HP cost. It even has an instant kill chance like Gae Bolg.
Stheno's stealing NP gauge skill is great, but she's pretty weak sauce when it comes to everything else.


Yeah no, Jing Ke is nowhere near Sasaki for simple reason that Sasaki accomplishes similar and better results and is way easier to level.

If one was to replace Sasaki, Hassan would be best choice. Jing Ke is decent but too unreliable
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astroprogs said:

Depends on how fast you are. The game saves pretty quickly.

Huh? I restart it all the time, but it makes you go to the beginning of the quest. Does it actually save midquest for you guys?

It saves mid-turn for me. One time i dealt a finishing blow, "Battle Finish" appeared and the game froze. When i restarted it put me right before my attack with HP and NP levels exactly as they were before my attack.

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Yeah no, Jing Ke is nowhere near Sasaki for simple reason that Sasaki accomplishes similar and better results and is way easier to level.

If one was to replace Sasaki, Hassan would be best choice. Jing Ke is decent but too unreliable

Sasaki is great at low levels. The level cap puts Jing Keway above him, especially when they deal almost the same amount of damage.
Jing Ke is unreliable to a degree, i agree, but that's why we have a seconds row. A double KO followed by an NP charged servant from the second row is an incredibly useful strategy i use all the time against much higher leveled enemies.

That strategy becomes borderline broken when i have Lancer Cu in my party as well :p
Aug 14, 2015 2:41 AM

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Medusa is 3-star, Euryale is 3-star while Stheno (the much inferior HS and the carbon copy of Euryale) is 4-star.

Lancer Cu is 3-star. Archer Emiya is 4-star.

Discuss.
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astroprogs said:
Medusa is 3-star, Euryale is 3-star while Stheno (the much inferior HS and the carbon copy of Euryale) is 4-star.

Lancer Cu is 3-star. Archer Emiya is 4-star.

Discuss.

Illuminati confirmed.

Aug 14, 2015 10:20 AM

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Sasaki is great at low levels. The level cap puts Jing Keway above him, especially when they deal almost the same amount of damage.
Jing Ke is unreliable to a degree, i agree, but that's why we have a seconds row. A double KO followed by an NP charged servant from the second row is an incredibly useful strategy i use all the time against much higher leveled enemies.

That strategy becomes borderline broken when i have Lancer Cu in my party as well :p


The problem is that you are far more likely to get the amount of Sasaki cards needed to max his NP than you are of Jing Ke. Lower star servants alsonot only level faster, but the LEVELING itself costs less as does ascession, skill leveling, etc.

So While in perfect world where you do not roll 10 black keys in row, Jing Ke has potential to be better, you are far more likely to max out Sasaki in your lifetime.

Lower star servants not only level faster, but the LEVELING itself costs less as does ascession, skill leveling, etc.

astroprogs said:
Medusa is 3-star, Euryale is 3-star while Stheno (the much inferior HS and the carbon copy of Euryale) is 4-star.

Lancer Cu is 3-star. Archer Emiya is 4-star.

Discuss.

Star just defines rarity and levelcap.

Its the same in almost all mobage - you have some low star ones that are INCREDIBLY useful and some very rare ones that are useless.


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Having got Tokiomis card today, no idea why that was translated as "elegant bastard"; it's the Tohsaka motto, 優雅たれ, "Always Elegant". (or something to that effect)

astroprogs said:
Medusa is 3-star, Euryale is 3-star while Stheno (the much inferior HS and the carbon copy of Euryale) is 4-star.

A divine spirit, and the oldest of them, far from inferior. Unless you mean in stats.
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Insertanamehere said:
Having got Tokiomis card today, no idea why that was translated as "elegant bastard"; it's the Tohsaka motto, "Always Elegant".

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Medusa is 3-star, Euryale is 3-star while Stheno (the much inferior HS and the carbon copy of Euryale) is 4-star.

A divine spirit, and the oldest of them, far from inferior. Unless you mean in stats.


Cu is Ireland's most famous hero.
Emiya is a nameless hero.
Yet Cu has lower rank than Emiya?

As for cards, take those tumblr translations with a grain of salt.
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Yes, that one makes no sense.
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The problem is that you are far more likely to get the amount of Sasaki cards needed to max his NP than you are of Jing Ke. Lower star servants alsonot only level faster, but the LEVELING itself costs less as does ascession, skill leveling, etc.

So While in perfect world where you do not roll 10 black keys in row, Jing Ke has potential to be better, you are far more likely to max out Sasaki in your lifetime.

Lower star servants not only level faster, but the LEVELING itself costs less as does ascession, skill leveling, etc.

I guess it depends on the play style then. If I'm gonna spend resources on a servant, I'd wanna use him/her for as long as I can before the servant becomes obsolete. I'd rather invest in Jing Ke who'll be able to outlive Sasaki's usefulness be 20 whole levels.

And about the rolling chances, I guess I'm lucky that I got more Jing Ke than Sasaki.


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Star just defines rarity and levelcap.

Its the same in almost all mobage - you have some low star ones that are INCREDIBLY useful and some very rare ones that are useless.

But that's still weird. Medusa and Cu should be able to out level Stheno and Emiya.
I guess it all depends on popularity. People like Archer more so he's more rare. People are really curious about the gorgon sisters so they have more stars.

Why Stheno is higher than her sister is still a huge question mark, though.
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Older

By that logic Medusa should be a 2-star.
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astroprogs said:
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Can I just restart GO if Gae Bolg fails to OHKO?

Depends on how fast you are. The game saves pretty quickly.


I've restarted several times, and Gae Bolg still failed to connect. I'm going to assume restarting doesn't work.
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I miss the old Baasaakaa roar.
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The reward for beating Rome is


...I have no words.

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Sherou said:
The reward for beating Rome is


...I have no words.


In other news you can gacha Nero tho so it evens out.
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Attila or Nero for best servant?
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Sherou said:
The reward for beating Rome is


...I have no words.


In other news you can gacha Nero tho so it evens out.


Yay. I can get Nero in 10 years or with $1,000.


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CookingPriest said:


In other news you can gacha Nero tho so it evens out.


Yay. I can get Nero in 10 years or with $1,000.



Thats some (and this is not a sarcasm) very optimistic estimates you have there.
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Attila or Nero for best servant?

Jeanne

only vaguely GO related but derailing is welcomed;

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