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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Oh. My. God. Okay, first of all, I have no idea what's happening because I don't speak Japanese, but omfg, Vincent. *o* I can't believe I actually started fangirling.. ._. |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
| ..oohh.. I"ve dreamt of Pandora Hearts a while ago..!!hahah. Maybe it's to remind me that the latest chapter will be out today. It's a shame that it's not about the next chapter though. The plot in my dream is so far-fetched. Hahah..!! LOL.. ..where did you actually read the latest chapter? |
| So, the truth about Head cutter(s) revealed, and Vincent is related. And I cannot believe what Vincent wanted (though I can understand because he cares about Gil soooooooooooo much!). |
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
GracefulDownfall said: THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Oh. My. God. Okay, first of all, I have no idea what's happening because I don't speak Japanese, but omfg, Vincent. *o* I can't believe I actually started fangirling.. ._. You're not the only one who started fanglirling >< So I just read the translation and I'll have to say that Vincent is slowly becoming my favourite character of PH. I loved him in this chapter especially, because it showed that Vincent has a kind heart too. I actually started crying during his conversation about Elliot ;-; |
RainbowMagnetMay 18, 2011 6:43 AM
| Just read the translation... The amount of miserable smiley faces cannot express my feelings towards PH at the moment... I only started reading the manga because of Vincent. Vincent is the main reason why it's my favourite manga. Vincent is my favourite character ever. (huge post ahead xD) @RainbowMagnet - [ s p o i l e r ] [ / s p o i l e r ] |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
| hey....where did you read it..??????!!!!!!!!!answer me please.... >.< |
| OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. OH. MY. GOSH. Oh Vincent, please don't make me cry for you! |
jynkxzylzen said: hey....where did you read it..??????!!!!!!!!!answer me please.... >.< You can download the PH chapter 61 from the Fallen Syndicate forums |
| Okay, seriously people. Am I really the only one who thought it was obvious from the very beginning that Vincent won't really be a bad guy in the end? Please don't do this to me... :/ calmarsi said: I might be the only one who still dislikes Vincent xD Honestly, I respect that. I mean, most of the people didn't bother to actually think about his character, they just hated him, but now everyone likes him all of a sudden. I'm sorry, but that's what kind of annoys me about some PH fans. They don't even try to think about the plot beyond what's made obvious to them. :/ Eeh, anyway, I actually agree with everything you've said, calmarsi. I still love Vincent though. As I'm sure I've mentioned, he has been the only reason why I'm reading this from the beginning. - Sorry if I'm just bitching here, I can barely keep my eyes open. So tired. |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
| good lord Vincent you magnificent BASTARD!! How can a character make me hate him, and then like him so much in the exact same chapter!? God PH is amazing!! |
| We get to see Reo's eyes in this chapter *o* and yes, they are really pretty. Vincent is such a troll -__- he talks too much. |
| Never ignore a person who loves you, cares for you, and misses you. Because one day, you might wake up from your sleep and realize that you lost the moon while counting the stars. |
| The amount of self-pitying, loathing, and sacrifice is, as usual, over the ceiling in PH. xD Which is why I love it so. |
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| But if Vincent was never there, the whole story wouldn't be... in existence ._. Had a fangirl moment when I saw Barma... Vin Vin~! How you rip my heart out ;v; I'm so glad you've showed love towards someone other than Gil. And I'm talking about Elliot, not Leo. GAHHHHHHH~! I love the troll known as Jun Mochizuki :3 |
| vincent! ah, we finally get to see leo's eyes. |
| I do love the Vincent development of this chapter, but did anyone else "zomg" when seeing Leo's eyes? They're drawn in the same style as Alice--hell, with his hair pulled back he looks uncannily like her. I'm wondering if that means anything or if it's just a trivial result of Jun's drawing. |
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| Really great chapter for Vincent! He's always been one of my top 3 favorite PH characters (Break, Gil, Vince) but I didn't expect him to have a soft spot for anyone but Gil. It's nice to know he can feel so strongly for others. Judging by the fact that Vincent saw Gil being happy with Jack if his annihilation wish is granted, it seems Vincent is stuck in the thought that he is the bringer of misfortune because of whom Sablier massacre happened. That's really sad. ~_~; As others have pointed out, nobody knows what kind of childhood Gil would've had if Vince didn't exist and Sablier was not Vince's fault. Glen wanted to open the gate and he'd find somebody else to do it. When I first saw the raw, my first thought was "I changed my mind, I don't want Break fighting Vincent ever D8" (because of his scary chain), but it looks like Vince is still wary of Break. That's good to know. I cried at the "I'm sorry" part. >_> And FINALLY, Leo's eyes! *_* ALSO, if you're reading the chapter online, the mangareader version at least is missing a page. This goes between mangareader page 24 and 25: |
Neiru2013May 21, 2011 9:29 PM
misherux said: Makes me wonder too how he could have contracted with two chains and not have side effects. Since Dormouse isn't "illegal", Vincent essentially is only contracted to one chain. Whatever method Pandora uses (which I don't remember if the process was ever elaborated on), it bypasses the seal inscribed in the chest. |
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misherux said: Makes me wonder too how he could have contracted with two chains and not have side effects. Personally I think Break is having side effects because of Mad Hatter's specific power. Break drank the blood of a chain - the power of the Abyss - when he illegally contracted with White Knight. As an illegal contract progresses, the link between chain and contractor grows stronger, and this might happen through the proliferation of the chain's blood throughout the contractor's body. Also, Break spent a bit of time in the Abyss, enough to feel the spasms of starting to become a chain. Basically, I think Break has become part chain either through the chain blood he swallowed, or through being in the heart of the Abyss, or both. Mad Hatter's power is to reject the Abyss, so whenever Break calls on Mad Hatter it passively attacks him. It affects his Abyss-tainted blood first, so he coughs it up, but over time it deteriorates his whole body. /Just my theory about it |
Neiru2013May 22, 2011 7:04 AM
| SCREW IT. VINCENT. TAKE MY HEART. PLEASE. oh god. Vincent has made me love him forever now. Behind that insane exterior he's such a nice guy. I mean, he'd been doing this all for Gil. And. He really did love Elliot AND OMFG LEO'S EYES. WHY HE SO PRETTY. /fangirl "I'm sorry... Leo" STARTED CRYING. Actually took a few seconds to keep reading because my vision was foggy. /tears are still on my cheeks wow. I mean wow. MochiJun rocked the fandom this month. Vincent/Leo in abundance anyone?? And god I love it that MochiJun finally showed his eyes AND SHE SHOWED US MORE OF VINCENT AND NOW I LOVE HIM LIKE YOU CAN'T IMAGINE. MY GOD. I LOVE THIS MANGA brb crying again |
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GracefulDownfall said: Just read the translation... The amount of miserable smiley faces cannot express my feelings towards PH at the moment... I only started reading the manga because of Vincent. Vincent is the main reason why it's my favourite manga. Vincent is my favourite character ever. (huge post ahead xD) @RainbowMagnet - [ s p o i l e r ] [ / s p o i l e r ] THIS. I mean, before, I didn't really care much for Vincent because let's face it, he had very little screenpagetime and all we knew is that he liked to rip up dolls, was a bit on the cuckoo side and has a bro-con for Gil. BUT SWEET CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT. He's been upped to fave character status. (well, pretty much everyone is my fave but you get the point) AND AGH. ELLIOT. Y U SO AWESOME & MAKE ME SO SAD I VOTE ELLIOT FOR CHARACTER OF THE YEAR. I think we all need to give each other one big hug, fandom. It's just so tragic recently. LEO HIM CRYING MAKES ME CRY |
AnimeFanDorkMay 22, 2011 12:24 AM
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| Oh Vincent, you never fail to be interesting~ And... okay, I knew Vincent was being overprotective of Gil, but wow, isn't this taking it a bit too far? Seeker said: I sure hope it's just a trivial result of Jun's drawing.but did anyone else "zomg" when seeing Leo's eyes? They're drawn in the same style as Alice--hell, with his hair pulled back he looks uncannily like her. I'm wondering if that means anything or if it's just a trivial result of Jun's drawing. |
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Seeker said: I do love the Vincent development of this chapter, but did anyone else "zomg" when seeing Leo's eyes? They're drawn in the same style as Alice--hell, with his hair pulled back he looks uncannily like her. I'm wondering if that means anything or if it's just a trivial result of Jun's drawing. I think it's just a trivial result. Atleast that's the feeling I get after reading her recent blog post about Leo's eyes, which states that she was just trying to put a lot of emphasis into Leo's eyes. |
| wow Vincent completely took over xerxes as the wtf character^^ |
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| OH GAWD, VINCENT!! YOU TROOOLL!! YOU AWESOMELY EPIC TROLL. I like him much more now. Uhh, I totally almost cried at his moment with Elliot. Plus that part with him wanting to not exist. TT^TT He loves Gil way too much. On a side note, Demios looks EPIC! XDD Plus their father really, REALLY is a douche. A pitiful and selfish douche 'til the end. And Whoa, so that's why Leo doesn't like his eyes to be out in full. They're awesome plus they can see those "golden lights from abyss thingy." Since Elliot is gone *sniff* I guess I'll settle for Vincent/Leo for now xP I still haven't given up the thought that he'll reappear again... One day. |
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| Loved this chapter. After pointing out that Elliot is the Headhunter, who'd have guessed for such a twist to happen?! So, Vincent is the original and only Headhunter. As I wasn't a fan of the Dormouse I can't be not happy about Demios. It looks so evil. =D Vincent's feelings towards himself are so bitter and sad. He just dislikes everything about himself. As many I'm also glad that he showed some feelings towards Elliot, even calling him his little brother. I wonder if Gil can save him from distruction or nothing can be done? When I first read the raw, for a second, I instantly thought of Leo as Alice. He relly does look like her and thank God his annoying hair is no more. Can't wait for reactions from other characters and can't wait for the Leo x Vincent collaboration. Oh, and Pandora Hearts’ score goes from 9 to 10 on my list. |
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| Hmm I still dislike Vincent. He's interesting and all and even I felt sympathy for him but still don't like him. The chapter was really amazing. And Leo 's eyes were sooo girlish. |
| Sorry for my English ^^' If you notice any mistakes, please tell me about it ^^ Thanks for corrections ^^ |
| Vincent is one of my favourite characters, so I must say something about this AMAZING chapter! I've been waiting for this for so long! Both for Vincent's revelations and being able to see Leo's eyes. XD There still are many things that aren't clear concerning the tragedy of Sablier, but if there was only Gil with Jack, wouldn't Glen use him as his next body? Gil was actually saved because of Vincent back then at the tragedy of Sablier... or something, no? I LOVE YOU VINCENT, BUT YOU'RE STUPID. >8( Also, there's so much angst in PH lately. |
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Amarevia said: I LOVE YOU VINCENT, BUT YOU'RE STUPID. >8( This. This. This. ._. |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
IceAndCream said: jynkxzylzen said: hey....where did you read it..??????!!!!!!!!!answer me please.... >.< You can download the PH chapter 61 from the Fallen Syndicate forums ..thanks..i've finally read it..!! ..and holy cow..!!!i didn't expect it to be this mind-boggling. I hinted that there might be a double contractor, but not to this extent. I don't know what may happen next but I feel for vincent. I knew from the start that there must be something, well, different or hidden(?) about him. And he doesn't stop fascinating me. Even with that cutting-stufftoys-with-scissors thing.hahah! And now it's the curtain's turn.. ;P .oh well..I'm OBSESSED with PH!! hahah :3 (Oz didn't appear in this chapter. What the hell happens to him and alice? Did alice already chewed up his ear?Hahah!) |
Rianri said: I'm sorry, but I don't believe that erasing his own existence is Vincent's main goal...I'm not sure, but I would give a 30% shot for that being true. We all know that Gil is VERY important to him, but I also think there's something more...at least if he's alive he can always certify if Gil's alright... The whole speech was purely to connect with Leo, I think. Talking about how noble Elliot was, how he avenged his memory by killing his father, the main culprit of Elliot becoming the head hunter 2#... (Nightray family was fucked up)...but the end...when he compares himself to Elliot, both responsible for tragedies for their most beloved ones...THAT was an hell of a manipulation. Vincent Nightray isn't stupid. Yes, I think he was trolling us. As he said, he is the opposite of Elliot, the noble minded who chose death consciously , avoiding being killed either by his friend Oz or Vincent in a pitiful act (omg this is making too much sense! that was all bullshit, wasn't it Vincent?) Anyway, I adore Vincent, even if I think he's mean and manipulative. One of the best characters of PH. Now, he needs Leo. He works with the Baskervilles so it makes sense...but what is his goal? (that's why I'll give 30% to the suicidal thing, I can't ...brah...this manga raises questions, questions, questions, and then twist, and twist, and twist...brah I love it) oh, and Demios is freaking awesome! ...that actually makes sense xD I still think Vincent is awesome with his brother obsession and all(love characters with mental problems and etc) but the smile that he made when Leo told him to cut his hair looked a little evil and didn't convince me that he's all good. Maybe he's planning to go back in time to kill Alice or something so that Gil could be all happy with him and Jack, plus it seems like Alice is the center of the tragedy of sablier. Anyways, I can't believe he's the headhunter and that he actually poisoned Gil to protect him from suspicion (I did get that right, right?) He's a badass actor -loves him- although his smiles don't seem genuine to me when it's not Gil related >.>But it's nice to see that he liked Elliot, even though it was bcuz it was Gil related >.> I have a feeling that Vincent has more on his sleeve and more on his emotional problems like his hinted self hate. I wonder what Leo would do, he looks so cute with his eyes shown -fangirls- Can't wait for the next chapter. I hope Oz is in it >.< P.S Thanxs Neiru2012 for showing the missing page, I read it from mangareader ^^ |
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Rianri said: We all know that Gil is VERY important to him, but I also think there's something more...at least if he's alive he can always certify if Gil's alright... The whole speech was purely to connect with Leo, I think. Talking about how noble Elliot was, how he avenged his memory by killing his father, the main culprit of Elliot becoming the head hunter 2#... (Nightray family was fucked up)...but the end...when he compares himself to Elliot, both responsible for tragedies for their most beloved ones...THAT was an hell of a manipulation. Oh god, I certainly hope you're right. I would actually agree with this since ever since this chapter I've been kinda doubting that he's gonna die like that. Before, I actually thought that he'll die for sure, but after this... It's just that nothing in Pandora Hearts is that simple. At first, I thought that he's gonna try to erase his existence but that it won't happen in the end, but after reading your comment I'm not as sure anymore. Whatever happens, I think that Ada will play a pretty big role in changing his plans or something. I mean, there must be a good reason for her being in the story, and, even though I really can't stand her, it seemed that Vincent actually cared for a second (when she was all like "I'll protect you while staying out of your sight!" -.-) I don't really like that pairing but I have to support it cause she's the only person who actually cares for him too bad she's an idiot. Let's wait and see... I just REALLY hope he doesn't die.. |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
| Okay, I've read the chapter again and.. I don't know, he seems pretty genuine to me. oo It's just that that sounds like something he would do.Even before, when he was thinking about their mother he thought something like "Why didn't she just kill me? Why did she have to get rid of Gil as well?" Still not exactly sure that he's actually gonna die though. |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
Rianri said: We all know that Gil is VERY important to him, but I also think there's something more...at least if he's alive he can always certify if Gil's alright... The whole speech was purely to connect with Leo, I think. Talking about how noble Elliot was, how he avenged his memory by killing his father, the main culprit of Elliot becoming the head hunter 2#... (Nightray family was fucked up)...but the end...when he compares himself to Elliot, both responsible for tragedies for their most beloved ones...THAT was an hell of a manipulation. Good point! That was my first thought, actually. That Vincent is just trying to earn Leo's trust and sympathy and the most of what he said was bullshit. We know how manipulative Vincent can be. I think there MUST BE something more. But then again, I have NO CLUE what else he could want to achieve so badly, so I kinda scrapped this idea... Anyway, if it really turns out that he lied, Vincent will deserve the "best troll ever" award. |
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Rianri said: I'm sorry, but I don't believe that erasing his own existence is Vincent's main goal...I'm not sure, but I would give a 30% shot for that being true. I think Vincent is pretty honest here... simply because of a scene i think he had with the Baskervilles. It's been a while back now, so I'm not completly sure it's right and I might be badly mistaken, but I think they had a conversation that partly included the HeadHunter aswell, and Vincent's reply was something like: "Don't worry, I know who the HeadHunter is. And I'm going to get rid of that person for harming Gil" - or at least something like these... And I'd even say he talked about the HH as "an disgusting person", or something similiar... That's why, when he revealed he's the "original" HH, I already went like "NOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Screw you Vincent, survive that damned manga!!!X____x"... and it got worse, when he spilled it out at the end... D= Well, guess I'll have no choice but to search for that part again... for if he already said something like that back than, I'd be really sure that he's honest. There was no reason for saying something like that back then already, with the Baskerville not even knowing he was the HH. And he could'nt mean Elliot by that, he never harmed Gil. And then theres what GracefulDownfall said... I think it leaves a pretty complete picture. Still hope he's going to survive... come on Gil, you just learned how to be useful in recent chapters, tell your brother you don't want him to do that! Can't be that hard to tell him, you care about him too... DD= And as generelly uninteressted as I am in Ada... I'm hoping too, she'll change something about that plan .____. Edit: Well, that was quick...now it comes in handy being obsessed with the manga xDD http://www.mangareader.net/350-47596-7/pandora-hearts/chapter-46.html "She's also a wretch that I'll kill one of these days!" On the other hand - now he said he was the one breaking the 2. seal. But he didn't tell that to the Baskerville... I wonder if he'll give Leo to them? |
AmayaRaykaMay 24, 2011 8:18 AM
Rianri said: I have to correct myself, I meant "but the end...when he compares himself to Leo, both responsible for tragedies for their most beloved ones." "Leo" instead of "Elliot" I believe that was Leo comparing himself to Vincent. And it seemed to me like Vincent was genuinely honest, not trying to fool Leo. However he might be speaking in half truths so he could have some other hidden agenda as well. |
| Vincent's not a despicable person *runs off crying* Tixy said: Rianri said: I have to correct myself, I meant "but the end...when he compares himself to Leo, both responsible for tragedies for their most beloved ones." "Leo" instead of "Elliot" I believe that was Leo comparing himself to Vincent. And it seemed to me like Vincent was genuinely honest, not trying to fool Leo. However he might be speaking in half truths so he could have some other hidden agenda as well. Exactly what I wanted to say. It was Leo who compared the two of them. Not Vincent. The thing that I find really hard to believe though is that Vincent is so stupid ._. |
deadoptimist said: Though I think shit-flinging should also have standards - no personal, no behind the scenes. |
| I didn't expect I well love Vincent someday ...he is really Seemed as older brother more than Gill did ... I really miss Elliot ... what " I am sorry ... Leo " BAKA BAKA BAKA I will not forgive you to left me and gone by yourself..* Leo‘s spokeswoman* |
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Qady said: I really miss Elliot ... what " I am sorry ... Leo " BAKA BAKA BAKA I will not forgive you to left me and gone by yourself..* Leo‘s spokeswoman* Just reminds me... Vince wants Leo to obtain the Will of the Abyss to change the past... couldn't Leo then change the past as well to get Elly back? At least that could be a motivation for him to play the Glan-part and at least a little hope left for me as much as I love and adore Elly .______. Would lead to the point, how much Oz as well might go with that goal... I mean, Elly comes of really, really, really dead... but Mochizuki-sensei is a huge troll... at least I'd like to see him in some more flashbacks from Leo, or appearing in some way connected to him again... But that might just be me still not adjusting to the thought, that Elly is gone... ;______; |
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