are there any "Hikikomori" here like me?

42 permaneet since 15, still look like 22, I've hardly gone outside the last two years

I'm going to die in this room

Wow, someone still remembers her. The only anime poster I had in my life. Handcrafted, haha.

I presume you didn't just finish university and looking for a job...

nakahara was so plain she might as well have been invisible

No one owes society a goddamn thing.

Cmon now. Don't insert yourself into the culture.
Hikikomori are sick people who need help, because they struggle to go outside. They have anxiety.


You're just a guy fresh out of school, who decided to become a bum, instead of giving back to society.
You can get a Job, you know^^ It's not that hard.

@Merve2Love

calm down it's not hurting anybody, working is not fun man, you would get scolded and treat you like a dog just because the boss in not in his mood, if i have a kid and i'm rich i would let him be a neet too, maybe i just have different philosophy from others idk

@Ymir_The_Viking

Well, as my Granny used to say: "Imagine EVERYBODY was doing that"
Take her advice and just envision a world where we all just did nothing all day. It would hurt, wouldn't it?^^

Is life kinda hard sometimes, out there? Sure.
Could the boss yell at you? Yeah, he might.


But we all put on our Big Boy Pants in the Morning and go to work anyways, so it all keeps going. We need to earn money. There are things that need to be done.

We don't just give up and stay at home.
We don't want to be a burden to society. We want to contribute something.
We're adults. We can handle some other grown up raising his voice, for a moment.

I mean cmon. You're giving up. Get in there, dude! You're only 24...

@Merve2Love Yeah, I am not going to beat people when they are temporarily going through stuff. I have had a year or two, lost in a transition period where I was a NEET. That said, if you don't make an effort to climb out of that, and find something to do, you are in fact hurting someone, whether that be your parents, tax payers....someone. You have to provide something meaningful to society. Otherwise you are just lazy, and shameless, which some posters, seem to be here. Those who do not work, do not eat, and I know in welfare states, or those who have exceptionally gracious parents, may not get that, however, since the beginning of time everyone has had to work, to eat.

Blaming outside societal forces (yeah we didn't have to work for a living before Adam Smith lol) or justifying that behavior (cause working is hard) is laziness. Yes of course, we need to advocate for better wages, and working conditions, however, when you literally don't contribute anything, I mean it's hard to take said opinions seriously, especially as you sit here, enjoying media, that is literally a product of labor.

Everything in life is a product of labor. And while, working is tough hard, and sometimes awful, there are absolutely jobs out there, you can find some pleasure in, like my current one.

I honestly don't get the mindset of full time Hikikis. Like even pleasure gets boring after awhile, and living that lifestyle pretty much just guarantees isolation. Even when I went through those periods, I had to do something, that wasn't just wasting away, eating, consuming entertainment and going to bed. I spent time learning how to cook, draw, and went for long walks/exercised because again, wasting away sucks just as much as working. You need a balance in all things.

Anyway you are right, I guess hopefully some of them take your post to heart, because you know, even if we lived in a post labor world, people would need to still apply themselves to literally something. Constant pleasure/hedonism isn't a good thing for the human mind.

@Ymir_The_Viking

Well, as my Granny used to say: "Imagine EVERYBODY was doing that"
Take her advice and just envision a world where we all just did nothing all day. It would hurt, wouldn't it?^^

Is life kinda hard sometimes, out there? Sure.
Could the boss yell at you? Yeah, he might.


But we all put on our Big Boy Pants in the Morning and go to work anyways, so it all keeps going. We need to earn money. There are things that need to be done.

We don't just give up and stay at home.
We don't want to be a burden to society. We want to contribute something.
We're adults. We can handle some other grown up raising his voice, for a moment.

I mean cmon. You're giving up. Get in there, dude! You're only 24...

@BilboBaggins365


It's just selfish.
The world would just collapse if everybody had that mindset.

I agree, it's just shameless. Escpecially if you're fine and capable, but you just chose it, as a Lifestyle.
And I think it's wrong to then go and celebrate that behavior, on here. It's a big middle-finger to anybody who actually bites the bullet, toughens up and gets on with it.


Im not talking about people who're actually mentally ill or go through some stuff and need to isolate, for a while, of course.
As you said: You need to make an effort, tho. Otherwise you're just lazy.

@Merve2Love

that's true, recently i actually did tried to find some job since my mental health are better now, and more money means nicer lifestyle, unfortunately still gets turned down because of lack of experience. i hope i will get a job somehow.

any 'comforts' are goods and services that people created and supplied for their own capitalistic reasons

paying them the money they wanted for it all is enough 'giving back'

get a cat, he won't lecture you about being 'selfish' and lazy

this thread is so bad lol, i'm just here to make friend but it became a warzone, wish i could delete it.

@Ymir_The_Viking

Sorry you feel that way^^
But is it really *war*?

I feel like most of us just want a young guy like you to be better then that, you know.
You can do it! :)

you don't need a job in order to make money

@Ymir_The_Viking

Well, as my Granny used to say: "Imagine EVERYBODY was doing that"
Take her advice and just envision a world where we all just did nothing all day. It would hurt, wouldn't it?^^

Is life kinda hard sometimes, out there? Sure.
Could the boss yell at you? Yeah, he might.


But we all put on our Big Boy Pants in the Morning and go to work anyways, so it all keeps going. We need to earn money. There are things that need to be done.

We don't just give up and stay at home.
We don't want to be a burden to society. We want to contribute something.
We're adults. We can handle some other grown up raising his voice, for a moment.

I mean cmon. You're giving up. Get in there, dude! You're only 24...

@Merve2Love


Dunno, I dislike these "imagine if everybody-" scenarios and hikikomoris could only really exist in our current society when in the far past you needed to do something whether hunting or caring for young in your small tribe. So... maybe our current society isn't as good as it seems.