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Nov 16, 2024 11:22 AM
#1
So, I started watching SAO a few years ago, but after the first few episodes, I kind of lost interest. I liked the start and found the idea intriguing, but as the story went on, it just seemed to become more boring and lackluster imo (compared to before). I think it just couldn’t hook me in enough and had began to show some flaws. Now, I’ve decided to try it again and see whether I was wrong at that time and had a different mindset (I’m honestly very much open to being surprised). Also, I’ve heard SAO: Alicization is supposed to be really good and the animation, narrative, and world building seems to have significantly improved (although it does seem to also have some flaws). It seems to be quite different from the original SAO especially with the new concepts and characters, so I’m also looking forward to watching it as well. Edit: I changed the post to make it more clear for people who just read the title and skipped over the description before. For anyone who came late, I had been wondering before when I made this post whether the Progressive movies were actually viable alternatives to watching Aincrad, but they’re not close to finished and are more for filling in the gaps. So, I’ve decided to watch the entirety of the season this time (since last time I only had watched like 5 episodes) and from the beginning. I am looking forward to going into this anime with a fresh mind. I’ve included my planned watch order below since I know there are a couple things that I need to watch, so feel free to let me know if this has all of the stuff I need (people generally have said summary is okay for arc 2, especially since ALO has some of the worst content [that seems to be the pretty much universal take], but Aincrad and others should def be watched, so I might be going the route of skipping ALO and just seeing a summary for everything except the final episode for the sake of not spoiling my enjoyment [that’s just my current thinking, but ofc I’ll go at least try it myself before that]). Watch Order: - Rewatch Aincrad and go through the entirety (and see whether I like it this time) - Watch/read summary of Fairy Dance arc and watch last episode (I might check it for myself, but I’m not having high hopes or expectations of this at all and I don’t want it to be the reason I feel like dropping this series) - Watch SAO II (Phantom Bullet + Mother’s Rosario seem very important, but Calibur should also be watched, right?) - Watch Ordinal Scale movie - Watch SAO Alicization + WOU P1 and P2 Maybe watch Progressive movies as well? Not sure whether either of Progressives are acc necessary though |
KitsuneZoroNov 19, 2024 12:05 AM
Nov 16, 2024 11:53 AM
#2
Don’t, just my advice |
Nov 16, 2024 11:55 AM
#3
no progressive movies only cover like 4 floors if I correct and to understand sao alicization you should just watch everything there is before. (Aincrad, elfheim, phantom bullet, mother Rosario and sao movie) |
Nov 16, 2024 11:56 AM
#4
ig you technically can if you know what happens |
Nov 16, 2024 11:56 AM
#5
KitsuneZoro said: So, I started watching SAO a few years ago, but after the first few episodes, I just lost interest and couldn’t continue watching. I liked the start and found the idea intriguing, but as the story went on, it just felt too much like a harem (with all the girls crowding on Kirito) and the storytelling just became plain boring and lackluster imo. I think it just suffered too many flaws for my taste and couldn’t hook me enough. Now, despite these shortcomings, I’ve heard SAO: Alicization is supposed to be really good and the animation, narative, and world building seems to have significantly improved from before. It seems to be a lot different from the original SAO and the new characters (like Eugio) seem really cool, so I’m considering watching it. However, I’d assume I’d have to get through the earlier seasons to understand Alicization, right? So I’m wondering whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and just watch the Progressive movies (which are supposed to be a lot better) instead or watch SAO: Extra Edition (from what I found, this just condenses all the events into a single special). I would really appreciate if you could let me know whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and watch one of these alternatives instead and if so, which alternative/s do I watch and what is the optimal viewing order of the entire series? Just skip off it, it’s not good imo |
Nov 16, 2024 11:58 AM
#6
KitsuneZoro said: So, I started watching SAO a few years ago, but after the first few episodes, I just lost interest and couldn’t continue watching. I liked the start and found the idea intriguing, but as the story went on, it just felt too much like a harem (with all the girls crowding on Kirito) and the storytelling just became plain boring and lackluster imo. I think it just suffered too many flaws for my taste and couldn’t hook me enough. Now, despite these shortcomings, I’ve heard SAO: Alicization is supposed to be really good and the animation, narative, and world building seems to have significantly improved from before. It seems to be a lot different from the original SAO and the new characters (like Eugio) seem really cool, so I’m considering watching it. However, I’d assume I’d have to get through the earlier seasons to understand Alicization, right? So I’m wondering whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and just watch the Progressive movies (which are supposed to be a lot better) instead or watch SAO: Extra Edition (from what I found, this just condenses all the events into a single special). I would really appreciate if you could let me know whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and watch one of these alternatives instead and if so, which alternative/s do I watch and what is the optimal viewing order of the entire series? If you don’t like the first season you won’t like the rest especially when s1 is one of the better ones (SAO isn’t really good) |
Nov 16, 2024 12:09 PM
#7
I mean it still keeps the harem theme just with the main love interest still winning. Progressive is sort of a separate rewrite of the story. Unfortunately all of Sao is needed for context in alicization. If you want a watch order though including the rewrite. • episode 1 • aria of a starless night • Episode 2 isnt necessary unless you want kiritos side • Scherzo of the deep • Rest of season 1 (Aincrad and ALO) • There’s an Ova recap movie with like a 20 minute episode at the end • Season 2 GGO is the important part (After there’s some filler I guess where they go on a quest) then there’s the sleeping knights arc which is more context needed later on. • Ordinal scale • Alicization then war of the under world part 1 and 2 |
Nov 16, 2024 12:13 PM
#8
Watch it on faster playback or skip some parts. It definitely isn't good idea to skip S1. Especially because entire Alicization arc is kinda upgrade of the S1 in some things. Movies are not enough, they don't cover everything. On top of that, you need to catch some vibe of SAO from S1, otherwise I am afraid you won't enjoy even Alicization. I mean, you can watch it as standalone anime, sure thing. But it's a question how much you will enjoy it, if at all. Eugeo is a nice new character in Alicization, but in my opinion you need to have bond with Kirito and Asuna from S1 and previous series and movies, to some degree, to accept the relationships Kirito has with other characters in Alicization. Because if you won't know everything and won't have your own opinion, I am afraid that watching Alicization can be for new watcher just like watching any average isekai in mood like "I spawned into new world with (not) op skills". In my opinion, it's not worth it skipping. If you want to grind just the most important things from S1, ask AI for recommendation on episodes. Still better to see at least something. Edit: Also Ordinal Scale is kinda important too, if you want to fully enjoy Alicization. |
ChanoyuNov 16, 2024 12:22 PM
Nov 16, 2024 12:43 PM
#9
Even if you skipped S1 and went to Alicization, you'd still be skipping S2 also so you're really asking should you skip S1 and S2. You can always look up summaries if you insist on it but I think you need some connection to the characters before jumping into Alicization. |
Nov 16, 2024 12:53 PM
#10
Reply to Fenrir_01
KitsuneZoro said:
So, I started watching SAO a few years ago, but after the first few episodes, I just lost interest and couldn’t continue watching. I liked the start and found the idea intriguing, but as the story went on, it just felt too much like a harem (with all the girls crowding on Kirito) and the storytelling just became plain boring and lackluster imo. I think it just suffered too many flaws for my taste and couldn’t hook me enough.
Now, despite these shortcomings, I’ve heard SAO: Alicization is supposed to be really good and the animation, narative, and world building seems to have significantly improved from before. It seems to be a lot different from the original SAO and the new characters (like Eugio) seem really cool, so I’m considering watching it.
However, I’d assume I’d have to get through the earlier seasons to understand Alicization, right? So I’m wondering whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and just watch the Progressive movies (which are supposed to be a lot better) instead or watch SAO: Extra Edition (from what I found, this just condenses all the events into a single special).
I would really appreciate if you could let me know whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and watch one of these alternatives instead and if so, which alternative/s do I watch and what is the optimal viewing order of the entire series?
So, I started watching SAO a few years ago, but after the first few episodes, I just lost interest and couldn’t continue watching. I liked the start and found the idea intriguing, but as the story went on, it just felt too much like a harem (with all the girls crowding on Kirito) and the storytelling just became plain boring and lackluster imo. I think it just suffered too many flaws for my taste and couldn’t hook me enough.
Now, despite these shortcomings, I’ve heard SAO: Alicization is supposed to be really good and the animation, narative, and world building seems to have significantly improved from before. It seems to be a lot different from the original SAO and the new characters (like Eugio) seem really cool, so I’m considering watching it.
However, I’d assume I’d have to get through the earlier seasons to understand Alicization, right? So I’m wondering whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and just watch the Progressive movies (which are supposed to be a lot better) instead or watch SAO: Extra Edition (from what I found, this just condenses all the events into a single special).
I would really appreciate if you could let me know whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and watch one of these alternatives instead and if so, which alternative/s do I watch and what is the optimal viewing order of the entire series?
If you don’t like the first season you won’t like the rest especially when s1 is one of the better ones (SAO isn’t really good)
I found S1 mediocre, but I liked Alicization. |
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Nov 16, 2024 12:54 PM
#11
Nov 16, 2024 12:59 PM
#12
You would miss a few relevant info if you skip S1 and S2, but most of Alicization can be understood and enjoyed without that info. |
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Nov 16, 2024 1:00 PM
#13
Well, he only falls in love with ONE girl, so the harem is a bit of a fake out. Silica is just a kid. Leefa is his Sister/cousin. Liz realizes Ausuna is in love with him. So it's basically just a circle of friends, except for Ausuna which he marries. For me the 1st half of Season 1 is great. That 2nd half is definitely kind of meh. The Movies, except for one that is a recap or pretty good IMO. CR just got EVERYTHING SAO. I also liked the first half of Season 2 but after the main story it just ambles around. |
Nov 16, 2024 1:01 PM
#14
you should watch it |
Nov 16, 2024 1:31 PM
#16
You good off the series if I’m being honest, those issues you have are present throughout the series and personally it only gets worse from here. |
Nov 16, 2024 1:44 PM
#17
Well you could, but like always, you wouldn't enjoy SAO Alicization fully 100% because it still made references to S1. SAO Progressive still have long way until it adapts everything. Up to you~ |
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Nov 16, 2024 2:02 PM
#18
Reply to Chanoyu
Watch it on faster playback or skip some parts. It definitely isn't good idea to skip S1. Especially because entire Alicization arc is kinda upgrade of the S1 in some things.
Movies are not enough, they don't cover everything. On top of that, you need to catch some vibe of SAO from S1, otherwise I am afraid you won't enjoy even Alicization. I mean, you can watch it as standalone anime, sure thing. But it's a question how much you will enjoy it, if at all.
Eugeo is a nice new character in Alicization, but in my opinion you need to have bond with Kirito and Asuna from S1 and previous series and movies, to some degree, to accept the relationships Kirito has with other characters in Alicization. Because if you won't know everything and won't have your own opinion, I am afraid that watching Alicization can be for new watcher just like watching any average isekai in mood like "I spawned into new world with (not) op skills".
In my opinion, it's not worth it skipping. If you want to grind just the most important things from S1, ask AI for recommendation on episodes. Still better to see at least something.
Edit: Also Ordinal Scale is kinda important too, if you want to fully enjoy Alicization.
Movies are not enough, they don't cover everything. On top of that, you need to catch some vibe of SAO from S1, otherwise I am afraid you won't enjoy even Alicization. I mean, you can watch it as standalone anime, sure thing. But it's a question how much you will enjoy it, if at all.
Eugeo is a nice new character in Alicization, but in my opinion you need to have bond with Kirito and Asuna from S1 and previous series and movies, to some degree, to accept the relationships Kirito has with other characters in Alicization. Because if you won't know everything and won't have your own opinion, I am afraid that watching Alicization can be for new watcher just like watching any average isekai in mood like "I spawned into new world with (not) op skills".
In my opinion, it's not worth it skipping. If you want to grind just the most important things from S1, ask AI for recommendation on episodes. Still better to see at least something.
Edit: Also Ordinal Scale is kinda important too, if you want to fully enjoy Alicization.
@Chanoyu Alr, so I guess Progressive movies are good, but only cover a small portion of S1 (like first 2 episodes), so probably can’t just watch that. So my watch order seems to be: - Rewatch Aincrad (and see whether I like it this time) - Watch/read summary of Fairy Dance arc and watch last episode (supposed to be worst arc in series, the plot sounds awful, I def could not bear it) - Watch SAO II (Phantom Bullet + Mother’s Rosario are important, guess filler-y part is kind of fun and has some context as well) - Watch Ordinal Scale movie - Watch SAO Alicization + WOU P1 and P2 I’d guess this is the best way to do it since Aincrad can’t rly be replaced and I haven’t watched enough to rly form an opinion ig. SAO II is supposed to also be important and considered pretty good, so I guess I’d watch that too. |
KitsuneZoroNov 16, 2024 9:34 PM
Nov 16, 2024 2:08 PM
#19
Reply to thischeetobussin
You good off the series if I’m being honest, those issues you have are present throughout the series and personally it only gets worse from here.
@thischeetobussin I think I’ll give it another shot. I only watched about the first 5 episodes or so iirc and Alicization is supposed to be rly good, so I want to see how good it is for myself. Also this review is reinforcing that. |
Nov 16, 2024 2:10 PM
#20
Reply to Rinrinka
Well you could, but like always, you wouldn't enjoy SAO Alicization fully 100% because it still made references to S1.
SAO Progressive still have long way until it adapts everything.
Up to you~

SAO Progressive still have long way until it adapts everything.
Up to you~
@Rinrinka Yeah, seems like I need to at least watch Aincrad and SAO II to understand all the references and fully enjoy it (even if it is pretty different from the rest of SAO and supposed to be very good) |
Nov 16, 2024 2:58 PM
#21
If you’re so uninvested in the story as to be willing to skip more than half of it, then chances are that a later part of the same story won’t do much for you either, since it’s built on the assumption that you’ve already been hooked and care about the story that preceded it & the characters that story built up. (This is also the reason I find the “can I skip [main installment of serialized narrative]?” question to be kinda dumb in general, but that’s a rant much too large and tangential for this thread) |
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Nov 16, 2024 3:06 PM
#22
Fenrir_01 said: KitsuneZoro said: So, I started watching SAO a few years ago, but after the first few episodes, I just lost interest and couldn’t continue watching. I liked the start and found the idea intriguing, but as the story went on, it just felt too much like a harem (with all the girls crowding on Kirito) and the storytelling just became plain boring and lackluster imo. I think it just suffered too many flaws for my taste and couldn’t hook me enough. Now, despite these shortcomings, I’ve heard SAO: Alicization is supposed to be really good and the animation, narative, and world building seems to have significantly improved from before. It seems to be a lot different from the original SAO and the new characters (like Eugio) seem really cool, so I’m considering watching it. However, I’d assume I’d have to get through the earlier seasons to understand Alicization, right? So I’m wondering whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and just watch the Progressive movies (which are supposed to be a lot better) instead or watch SAO: Extra Edition (from what I found, this just condenses all the events into a single special). I would really appreciate if you could let me know whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and watch one of these alternatives instead and if so, which alternative/s do I watch and what is the optimal viewing order of the entire series? If you don’t like the first season you won’t like the rest especially when s1 is one of the better ones (SAO isn’t really good) Yes and no, the first 2 seasons of SAO are absolute dogshit, but the 3rd season and 4th seasons are actually really good. And don’t even get me started on unital ring. Holy shit, unital ring is just actual peak. |
Nov 16, 2024 3:08 PM
#23
EBTW871 said: Fenrir_01 said: KitsuneZoro said: So, I started watching SAO a few years ago, but after the first few episodes, I just lost interest and couldn’t continue watching. I liked the start and found the idea intriguing, but as the story went on, it just felt too much like a harem (with all the girls crowding on Kirito) and the storytelling just became plain boring and lackluster imo. I think it just suffered too many flaws for my taste and couldn’t hook me enough. Now, despite these shortcomings, I’ve heard SAO: Alicization is supposed to be really good and the animation, narative, and world building seems to have significantly improved from before. It seems to be a lot different from the original SAO and the new characters (like Eugio) seem really cool, so I’m considering watching it. However, I’d assume I’d have to get through the earlier seasons to understand Alicization, right? So I’m wondering whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and just watch the Progressive movies (which are supposed to be a lot better) instead or watch SAO: Extra Edition (from what I found, this just condenses all the events into a single special). I would really appreciate if you could let me know whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and watch one of these alternatives instead and if so, which alternative/s do I watch and what is the optimal viewing order of the entire series? If you don’t like the first season you won’t like the rest especially when s1 is one of the better ones (SAO isn’t really good) Yes and no, the first 2 seasons of SAO are absolute dogshit, but the 3rd season and 4th seasons are actually really good. And don’t even get me started on unital ring. Holy shit, unital ring is just actual peak. Sorry when I was talking about s1 I was talking about SAO not alfheim online and yes since alicization It has gotten better but I don’t know if it is worth it. |
Nov 16, 2024 3:10 PM
#24
Zarutaku said: I found S1 mediocre, but I liked Alicization. Fr, S1 and S2 are mostly shit whilst alicization is actually pretty good. Btw if you liked season 3 and 4 I recommend to read the light novel (start on vol 19) because the moon cradle and unital ring arc are so insanely good. |
Nov 16, 2024 3:12 PM
#25
Fenrir_01 said: EBTW871 said: Fenrir_01 said: KitsuneZoro said: So, I started watching SAO a few years ago, but after the first few episodes, I just lost interest and couldn’t continue watching. I liked the start and found the idea intriguing, but as the story went on, it just felt too much like a harem (with all the girls crowding on Kirito) and the storytelling just became plain boring and lackluster imo. I think it just suffered too many flaws for my taste and couldn’t hook me enough. Now, despite these shortcomings, I’ve heard SAO: Alicization is supposed to be really good and the animation, narative, and world building seems to have significantly improved from before. It seems to be a lot different from the original SAO and the new characters (like Eugio) seem really cool, so I’m considering watching it. However, I’d assume I’d have to get through the earlier seasons to understand Alicization, right? So I’m wondering whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and just watch the Progressive movies (which are supposed to be a lot better) instead or watch SAO: Extra Edition (from what I found, this just condenses all the events into a single special). I would really appreciate if you could let me know whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and watch one of these alternatives instead and if so, which alternative/s do I watch and what is the optimal viewing order of the entire series? If you don’t like the first season you won’t like the rest especially when s1 is one of the better ones (SAO isn’t really good) Yes and no, the first 2 seasons of SAO are absolute dogshit, but the 3rd season and 4th seasons are actually really good. And don’t even get me started on unital ring. Holy shit, unital ring is just actual peak. Sorry when I was talking about s1 I was talking about SAO not alfheim online and yes since alicization It has gotten better but I don’t know if it is worth it. Oh, that makes sense. |
Nov 16, 2024 3:13 PM
#26
EBTW871 said: Fenrir_01 said: EBTW871 said: Fenrir_01 said: KitsuneZoro said: So, I started watching SAO a few years ago, but after the first few episodes, I just lost interest and couldn’t continue watching. I liked the start and found the idea intriguing, but as the story went on, it just felt too much like a harem (with all the girls crowding on Kirito) and the storytelling just became plain boring and lackluster imo. I think it just suffered too many flaws for my taste and couldn’t hook me enough. Now, despite these shortcomings, I’ve heard SAO: Alicization is supposed to be really good and the animation, narative, and world building seems to have significantly improved from before. It seems to be a lot different from the original SAO and the new characters (like Eugio) seem really cool, so I’m considering watching it. However, I’d assume I’d have to get through the earlier seasons to understand Alicization, right? So I’m wondering whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and just watch the Progressive movies (which are supposed to be a lot better) instead or watch SAO: Extra Edition (from what I found, this just condenses all the events into a single special). I would really appreciate if you could let me know whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and watch one of these alternatives instead and if so, which alternative/s do I watch and what is the optimal viewing order of the entire series? If you don’t like the first season you won’t like the rest especially when s1 is one of the better ones (SAO isn’t really good) Yes and no, the first 2 seasons of SAO are absolute dogshit, but the 3rd season and 4th seasons are actually really good. And don’t even get me started on unital ring. Holy shit, unital ring is just actual peak. Sorry when I was talking about s1 I was talking about SAO not alfheim online and yes since alicization It has gotten better but I don’t know if it is worth it. Oh, that makes sense. I mean I think we can both agree that Alfheim online was absolute dogshit |
Nov 16, 2024 3:39 PM
#27
Fenrir_01 said: EBTW871 said: Fenrir_01 said: EBTW871 said: Fenrir_01 said: KitsuneZoro said: So, I started watching SAO a few years ago, but after the first few episodes, I just lost interest and couldn’t continue watching. I liked the start and found the idea intriguing, but as the story went on, it just felt too much like a harem (with all the girls crowding on Kirito) and the storytelling just became plain boring and lackluster imo. I think it just suffered too many flaws for my taste and couldn’t hook me enough. Now, despite these shortcomings, I’ve heard SAO: Alicization is supposed to be really good and the animation, narative, and world building seems to have significantly improved from before. It seems to be a lot different from the original SAO and the new characters (like Eugio) seem really cool, so I’m considering watching it. However, I’d assume I’d have to get through the earlier seasons to understand Alicization, right? So I’m wondering whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and just watch the Progressive movies (which are supposed to be a lot better) instead or watch SAO: Extra Edition (from what I found, this just condenses all the events into a single special). I would really appreciate if you could let me know whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and watch one of these alternatives instead and if so, which alternative/s do I watch and what is the optimal viewing order of the entire series? If you don’t like the first season you won’t like the rest especially when s1 is one of the better ones (SAO isn’t really good) Yes and no, the first 2 seasons of SAO are absolute dogshit, but the 3rd season and 4th seasons are actually really good. And don’t even get me started on unital ring. Holy shit, unital ring is just actual peak. Sorry when I was talking about s1 I was talking about SAO not alfheim online and yes since alicization It has gotten better but I don’t know if it is worth it. Oh, that makes sense. I mean I think we can both agree that Alfheim online was absolute dogshit Yeah, i don’t think a single person enjoyed that arc LOL. |
Nov 16, 2024 3:59 PM
#28
literally introduces you to the world of aincrad why in the actual fuc would you skip it. and the first few episodes are what makes the show popular🤦🏻 I just can't... |
Nov 16, 2024 4:07 PM
#29
The first half of season one and the mini arc at the end of season two are the only parts of it worth watching, if you didn't like what you saw of s1 just watch one of the thousands of good anime. |
Nov 16, 2024 4:35 PM
#30
Fan of SAO here… Season 3 covers things from seasons 1 and 2, so you’ll be confused or not care when you get to reveals in the second half of season 3. Also Aria of a Starless Night covers the end of Floor 1, and Scherzo of Deep Night covers Floor 5. Watching those won’t help much, but Scherzo could be good for a moment in S3. But also Season 3 doesn’t have the best adaptions. Chapters get cut. Inner monologue barely exists. Scenes are awfully adapted to ruin characters. There’s anime original scenes for fanservice (not nsfw stuff). They change the story a bit to not deal with racism and makes a villain be able to do something which is impossible to do. As an SAO fan… I wouldn’t suggest watching it. Reading it is great though, but I don’t expect anyone to buy all 30+ novels. |
Nov 16, 2024 4:37 PM
#31
Extra Edition is mostly a recap of season 1 yeah. I don’t remember how it summarizes it though, but the special does end with a canon side quest |
Nov 16, 2024 4:38 PM
#32
Progressive is a companion series to Aincrad. It’s not a rewrite or replacement. It’s more Aincrad we didn’t have before |
Nov 16, 2024 4:45 PM
#33
If you don’t like season 1, don’t skip straight to season 3. Just don’t watch the anime if it’s not for you. And if you don’t plan on heeding that advice, then you’re still out of luck because there’s no recap for season 2. |
Nov 16, 2024 5:22 PM
#34
SAO as a franchise stuck in this weird limbo and its dscussion culture is just cooked because people Like OP already heard alot of shit about it and assumed stuff that happens way later and is already shaped by it, aren't hooked on the story and characters (which is really important here), don't care or even understand the themes, and will just make up meme shit that reduces it to its bare minimum(thats my assumption) because he heard 'it will get good' (based on what? and why would it get good? if you don't think its good from the beginning or have something you like about it) There's no other anime where people hate(they were moulded into this strong emotion) a big chunk of epiosdes (in a polarizing way) and say there's only like 20 Episodes worth watching (if they're brazen enough even less) (yeah man, you really value worth) and they are always sprinkled in between.arcs and you have to avoid the rest like lava (I don't understand this apathy consumption) Sorry but if you say 'Only Aincrad and gun gale(for example) are good, the rest is shit' then you missed the assignment or i don't know where this 'it went downhill'(from people who haven't watched most of it) comes from. I Think I have found my answer. People try to attach themselves to this anime for most cynical and apathetic reasons possible Sorry for my rant but the bold thing is actually my answer |
Nov 16, 2024 7:08 PM
#35
Fenrir_01 said: KitsuneZoro said: So, I started watching SAO a few years ago, but after the first few episodes, I just lost interest and couldn’t continue watching. I liked the start and found the idea intriguing, but as the story went on, it just felt too much like a harem (with all the girls crowding on Kirito) and the storytelling just became plain boring and lackluster imo. I think it just suffered too many flaws for my taste and couldn’t hook me enough. Now, despite these shortcomings, I’ve heard SAO: Alicization is supposed to be really good and the animation, narative, and world building seems to have significantly improved from before. It seems to be a lot different from the original SAO and the new characters (like Eugio) seem really cool, so I’m considering watching it. However, I’d assume I’d have to get through the earlier seasons to understand Alicization, right? So I’m wondering whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and just watch the Progressive movies (which are supposed to be a lot better) instead or watch SAO: Extra Edition (from what I found, this just condenses all the events into a single special). I would really appreciate if you could let me know whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and watch one of these alternatives instead and if so, which alternative/s do I watch and what is the optimal viewing order of the entire series? If you don’t like the first season you won’t like the rest especially when s1 is one of the better ones (SAO isn’t really good) Agreed, only got up through the Rosario part, but Aincrad was the best part of SAO just as a complete living world. Part 2 wasn't bad just Oberon being a creep, at least he got his comeuppance. |
Nov 16, 2024 9:31 PM
#36
Reply to Flying_Hawlucha
literally introduces you to the world of aincrad why in the actual fuc would you skip it. and the first few episodes are what makes the show popular🤦🏻
I just can't...
I just can't...
@Flying_Hawlucha Well, you def didn’t read the entire description lol (I did not say I was going to just completely skip it, I was wondering if the progressive movies or recap OVA can be watched as alternatives), but that’s already settled if you had just seen my later comments (I’ve decided to just give the first season another shot since it’s been a long time anyway and I barely had gotten into it, so it could def get better in the later parts) |
Nov 16, 2024 9:39 PM
#37
Reply to N1nj4L1nk
The first half of season one and the mini arc at the end of season two are the only parts of it worth watching, if you didn't like what you saw of s1 just watch one of the thousands of good anime.
@N1nj4L1nk I did acc like the start of Aincrad. Alicization is supposed to be really good (which is mainly why I want to try out the show again). Also, SAO II (GGO) is supposed to also be quite good (I’m guessing in your comment, you were mentioning Mother’s Rosario, the arc at the end since people seem to really like that one). Only Aincrad I was unsure of just bc it seems to have gone down around episode 5, but I’m going to still give it another shot. Fairy Dance (Alfheim Online) is the only one that I’m absolutely not wanting to watch, especially since the villain and plot just all seems very unsettling. Maybe I’ll watch it, but I think I’d rather just see a summary of all the events and only watch the final episode (some people have suggested that). |
Nov 16, 2024 9:41 PM
#38
Reply to Molduga
Extra Edition is mostly a recap of season 1 yeah. I don’t remember how it summarizes it though, but the special does end with a canon side quest
@Molduga People seem to not be mentioning it, and it’s supposed to be watched only after Aincrad, so I’m guessing even though it recaps the events, it can’t rly replace the arc itself. |
Nov 16, 2024 9:50 PM
#39
Fenrir_01 said: KitsuneZoro said: So, I started watching SAO a few years ago, but after the first few episodes, I just lost interest and couldn’t continue watching. I liked the start and found the idea intriguing, but as the story went on, it just felt too much like a harem (with all the girls crowding on Kirito) and the storytelling just became plain boring and lackluster imo. I think it just suffered too many flaws for my taste and couldn’t hook me enough. Now, despite these shortcomings, I’ve heard SAO: Alicization is supposed to be really good and the animation, narative, and world building seems to have significantly improved from before. It seems to be a lot different from the original SAO and the new characters (like Eugio) seem really cool, so I’m considering watching it. However, I’d assume I’d have to get through the earlier seasons to understand Alicization, right? So I’m wondering whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and just watch the Progressive movies (which are supposed to be a lot better) instead or watch SAO: Extra Edition (from what I found, this just condenses all the events into a single special). I would really appreciate if you could let me know whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and watch one of these alternatives instead and if so, which alternative/s do I watch and what is the optimal viewing order of the entire series? If you don’t like the first season you won’t like the rest especially when s1 is one of the better ones (SAO isn’t really good) Yea every season after S1 just goes downhill from there 😭 |
Nov 16, 2024 9:52 PM
#40
Reply to Molduga
Progressive is a companion series to Aincrad. It’s not a rewrite or replacement. It’s more Aincrad we didn’t have before
@Molduga Yeah, that’s what it seems like. It can only fully replace episode 2 I think and it covers only a very small portion of Aincrad itself. It’s mostly just expanding on events not covered it seems. It looks like it also covers some of the events in episode 1 as well, but that’s the most. Anyway, the movie honestly is just an extended way of watching 2 episodes, so doesn’t seem worth watching for now. Will just watch the original I think. |
Nov 16, 2024 10:00 PM
#41
Reply to Altadena
Fenrir_01 said:
If you don’t like the first season you won’t like the rest especially when s1 is one of the better ones (SAO isn’t really good)
KitsuneZoro said:
So, I started watching SAO a few years ago, but after the first few episodes, I just lost interest and couldn’t continue watching. I liked the start and found the idea intriguing, but as the story went on, it just felt too much like a harem (with all the girls crowding on Kirito) and the storytelling just became plain boring and lackluster imo. I think it just suffered too many flaws for my taste and couldn’t hook me enough.
Now, despite these shortcomings, I’ve heard SAO: Alicization is supposed to be really good and the animation, narative, and world building seems to have significantly improved from before. It seems to be a lot different from the original SAO and the new characters (like Eugio) seem really cool, so I’m considering watching it.
However, I’d assume I’d have to get through the earlier seasons to understand Alicization, right? So I’m wondering whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and just watch the Progressive movies (which are supposed to be a lot better) instead or watch SAO: Extra Edition (from what I found, this just condenses all the events into a single special).
I would really appreciate if you could let me know whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and watch one of these alternatives instead and if so, which alternative/s do I watch and what is the optimal viewing order of the entire series?
So, I started watching SAO a few years ago, but after the first few episodes, I just lost interest and couldn’t continue watching. I liked the start and found the idea intriguing, but as the story went on, it just felt too much like a harem (with all the girls crowding on Kirito) and the storytelling just became plain boring and lackluster imo. I think it just suffered too many flaws for my taste and couldn’t hook me enough.
Now, despite these shortcomings, I’ve heard SAO: Alicization is supposed to be really good and the animation, narative, and world building seems to have significantly improved from before. It seems to be a lot different from the original SAO and the new characters (like Eugio) seem really cool, so I’m considering watching it.
However, I’d assume I’d have to get through the earlier seasons to understand Alicization, right? So I’m wondering whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and just watch the Progressive movies (which are supposed to be a lot better) instead or watch SAO: Extra Edition (from what I found, this just condenses all the events into a single special).
I would really appreciate if you could let me know whether I can skip SAO Season 1 and watch one of these alternatives instead and if so, which alternative/s do I watch and what is the optimal viewing order of the entire series?
If you don’t like the first season you won’t like the rest especially when s1 is one of the better ones (SAO isn’t really good)
Yea every season after S1 just goes downhill from there 😭
@Altadena A LOT of people seem to say Alicization is better than earlier arcs (at least in world building and stakes) and definitely worthwhile watching (although can’t be fully appreciated stand-alone). I’ve asked elsewhere as well and I think it’s worth at least checking out. The only arc that people seem to really hate is ALO and Calibur seems to considered quite boring. Also, 1st arc has some hate as well, but generally considered pretty good, so I need to see for myself and go through the entire thing this time. |
Nov 16, 2024 10:06 PM
#42
Reply to EP1C_G4YM3R
If you don’t like season 1, don’t skip straight to season 3. Just don’t watch the anime if it’s not for you. And if you don’t plan on heeding that advice, then you’re still out of luck because there’s no recap for season 2.
@EP1C_G4YM3R I already said what my plan is for now, I need to rewatch S1, this time in its entirety and then decide. Phantom Bullet seems decently well-received and especially Mother’s Rosario so I’m not too worried about how good SAO II is for now. |
Nov 16, 2024 10:19 PM
#43
Reply to Flick_on
SAO as a franchise stuck in this weird limbo and its dscussion culture is just cooked because people Like OP already heard alot of shit about it and assumed stuff that happens way later and is already shaped by it,
aren't hooked on the story and characters (which is really important here), don't care or even understand the themes, and will just make up meme shit that reduces it to its bare minimum(thats my assumption) because he heard 'it will get good' (based on what? and why would it get good? if you don't think its good from the beginning or have something you like about it)
There's no other anime where people hate(they were moulded into this strong emotion) a big chunk of epiosdes (in a polarizing way) and say there's only like 20 Episodes worth watching (if they're brazen enough even less) (yeah man, you really value worth) and they are always sprinkled in between.arcs and you have to avoid the rest like lava (I don't understand this apathy consumption)
Sorry but if you say 'Only Aincrad and gun gale(for example) are good, the rest is shit' then you missed the assignment or i don't know where this 'it went downhill'(from people who haven't watched most of it) comes from. I Think I have found my answer.
People try to attach themselves to this anime for most cynical and apathetic reasons possible
Sorry for my rant but the bold thing is actually my answer
aren't hooked on the story and characters (which is really important here), don't care or even understand the themes, and will just make up meme shit that reduces it to its bare minimum(thats my assumption) because he heard 'it will get good' (based on what? and why would it get good? if you don't think its good from the beginning or have something you like about it)
There's no other anime where people hate(they were moulded into this strong emotion) a big chunk of epiosdes (in a polarizing way) and say there's only like 20 Episodes worth watching (if they're brazen enough even less) (yeah man, you really value worth) and they are always sprinkled in between.arcs and you have to avoid the rest like lava (I don't understand this apathy consumption)
Sorry but if you say 'Only Aincrad and gun gale(for example) are good, the rest is shit' then you missed the assignment or i don't know where this 'it went downhill'(from people who haven't watched most of it) comes from. I Think I have found my answer.
People try to attach themselves to this anime for most cynical and apathetic reasons possible
Sorry for my rant but the bold thing is actually my answer
@Flick_on None of the stuff about Aincrad was just based on just random posts hating on it that I’ve seen online. My opinion on SAO Season 1 was just based on what I’d watched so far and what I remembered, so I was wondering whether there are acc alternatives (since Progressive movies seem to be more well received and I didn’t know whether they were actual viable replacements). I didn’t just hear it would “get good” later, I’ve seen the promotional material for Alicization and watched part of the 1st episode (only the beginning, but I liked the look of it atl). Also, I’ve read a lot of detailed reviews and plenty of people say that despite disliking earlier arcs, they really liked Alicization. I did not say I hate SAO (just wasn’t super hooked at the time) nor did I ask here with a closed mind where I am only willing to watch specific episodes. I forgot to include S2 (GGO), but I was planning on watching it anyway, especially since it seems to add a lot of context. S3 is actually a lot longer than others and a full arc, so nothing wrong with people saying that arc is better than others or worth checking out even if you didn’t like the earlier ones that much. Now, no way can it just be watched standalone, but I’d say looking forward to it the most seems completely fair imo. I really do want to try it out and I am hoping it will be enjoyable and worthwhile. I was just wondering out of curiosity, but I’ve alr decided what I’m going to do. From my own experience, it did seem to go downhill after the first couple episodes, but it could probably still be nice or become better, so since the others are not feasible alternatives, I’m perfectly fine trying it out for myself. Anyway, hope this clears things for you. I don’t want to come off as one of the people you described, so that’s why I have said quite a lot here. |
KitsuneZoroNov 16, 2024 10:58 PM
Nov 16, 2024 10:52 PM
#44
KitsuneZoro said: @Chanoyu Alr, so I guess Progressive movies are good, but only cover a small portion of S1 (like first 2 episodes), so probably can’t just watch that. So my watch order seems to be: - Rewatch Aincrad (and see whether I like it this time) - Watch/read summary of Fairy Dance arc and watch last episode (supposed to be worst arc in series, the plot sounds awful, I def could not bear it) - Watch SAO II (Phantom Bullet + Mother’s Rosario are important, guess filler-y part is kind of fun and has some context as well) - Watch Ordinal Scale movie - Watch SAO Alicization + WOU P1 and P2 I’d guess this is the best way to do it since Aincrad can’t rly be replaced and I haven’t watched enough to rly form an opinion ig. SAO II is supposed to also be important and considered pretty good, so I guess I’d watch that too. Yes. The thing with S2 is, that many people hate it. I never truly hated it or loved it, it was just alright to me. You can just get some summary of 2nd part S1, as that fairy world isn't that important, yet some parts are still referenced in future. So summary should be enough. Don't skip S1 1st part. S2 - up to you whether you want to watch it, there are few important characters but some people are saying that S2 summary is enough. It's been a while I've seen that, so I don't have strong opinion on this one. Very important is Ordinal Scale movie as there is new equipment, characters and base of lore which is being developed further in Alicization, this is not a good idea to skip or watch from some summary. This should be enough for you to get the grasp of the story. Alicization is a really nice piece, but only if you get the relationships between the characters and the meaning of some bonds and parts of the story. Even though those "3" parts are much about Eugeo, the new character, having the base knowledge from previous series can just help you enjoy it. + You need to know some old characters. (There are some core characters from S1, S2 and story is heavily based on events started in Ordinal Scale movie.) |
Nov 16, 2024 10:55 PM
#45
I am not one to claim SAO has great writing or some deep meaning, but I do think your description of the first season of the anime is inaccurate and unfair. Here is my honest opinion, if you are going to watch SAO, then watch all of SAO, that’s the only way to understand everything going on in the continued story. Trying to skip around will only confuse you. You might not like everything and it might be “boring” to you, but push through it, so you can say you watched the anime. |
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
Nov 17, 2024 1:15 AM
#46
I wouldn't bother watching it if you're gonna skip the first season. It's all the same honestly, not great. |
Nov 17, 2024 1:24 AM
#47
Imo, you need the first season to understand and enjoy the rest. |
Nov 17, 2024 2:43 AM
#48
POV: can I skip the first season of every anime and just watch season 2? |
Nov 17, 2024 4:19 AM
#49
Alicazation i think is the only not bad thing in SAO Notice how I said not bad instead of good |
Nov 17, 2024 4:37 AM
#50
KitsuneZoro said: @N1nj4L1nk I did acc like the start of Aincrad. Alicization is supposed to be really good (which is mainly why I want to try out the show again). Also, SAO II (GGO) is supposed to also be quite good (I’m guessing in your comment, you were mentioning Mother’s Rosario, the arc at the end since people seem to really like that one). Only Aincrad I was unsure of just bc it seems to have gone down around episode 5, but I’m going to still give it another shot. Fairy Dance (Alfheim Online) is the only one that I’m absolutely not wanting to watch, especially since the villain and plot just all seems very unsettling. Maybe I’ll watch it, but I think I’d rather just see a summary of all the events and only watch the final episode (some people have suggested that). Why not just watch something you would actually like? There is so much anime it there that it's really fucking odd that people keep wanting others to tell them to continue watching something they didn't enjoy. |
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