Emilia vs Rem, It is stupid

it is pretty obvious that Tappei prefers Emilia and will exclude rem until the anime runs out of resources to adapt anything more so Emilia wins

@icefirestone23 She woke up in LN a long time ago and received her new arc. But yeah, Rem's coma was a very blatant infamous attempt to influence audience preferences, not to mention removing some of the Subaru x Rem moments during the start of publishing the full LN. Although he always openly admitted that the development of the plot was always driven by his desire to influence the audience's reaction. But what irritates me most is not so much this, but the absolute toxicity of many Emilia stans. Starting from literally cyberbullying any fan content with Rem to constant unnatural boasting about Emilia with or without reason, as if they are going to cause a psychological attack. I wouldn't even be surprised if Emilia's recent sharp rise in the character rankings was a deliberately planned flash mob. Especially since it slowed down dramatically after going around Rem. This is absolutely crazy shit considering Tappei gave up a long time ago and made both girls his canon love interests.

@RobertBobert I mean, Rem's coma in the Web Novel predates even the first light novel volume by more than half a year, so I really doubt peoples' claims of it being just something to influence the audience's perception of Emilia really holds up. It's more likely that it was already something planned for the plot even far before the whole Emilia Vs. Rem stuff.

@Gilgameshuu If you forget that Rem vs Emilia shit was back in the web novel, then yes. If not, then your argument doesn't work, sorry. And yes, as I said above and which you successfully ignored, he literally rewrote Rem x Subaru moments while writing the LN version, either deleting them or giving the scenes to Emilia. The famous if with the Rem and Subaru family in an attempt to appease the Rem team was written as fan service during the original web novel, and not as a bonus to the LN.

@RobertBobert Arc 2 wasn't initially planned in the storyline so every argument includes Rem is debunked.

She is not an important character, even Tappei doesn't know what do to with her in future.

Entire story and events build around Subaru and Emilia. There is no role for Rem, she is important as any random side character.

@icefirestone23 She woke up in LN a long time ago and received her new arc. But yeah, Rem's coma was a very blatant infamous attempt to influence audience preferences, not to mention removing some of the Subaru x Rem moments during the start of publishing the full LN. Although he always openly admitted that the development of the plot was always driven by his desire to influence the audience's reaction. But what irritates me most is not so much this, but the absolute toxicity of many Emilia stans. Starting from literally cyberbullying any fan content with Rem to constant unnatural boasting about Emilia with or without reason, as if they are going to cause a psychological attack. I wouldn't even be surprised if Emilia's recent sharp rise in the character rankings was a deliberately planned flash mob. Especially since it slowed down dramatically after going around Rem. This is absolutely crazy shit considering Tappei gave up a long time ago and made both girls his canon love interests.

@RobertBobert does tappei have a winner in mind. Negi from quintuplets did "I bet you didn't see that coming". Tachibana (DAL), Kalahari (sao) , wataru (oregairu) at least had a clear choice even if some of the others were more popular

@icefirestone23 Well, it's pretty obvious that Emilia is the main girl and that Tappei created and leads her as his own ideal female character. Japanese authors usually don't have a problem with this, after all it's what gave rise to the "best girl never wins" meme because authors tend to ignore whip wars even if another character gets a lot more attention. In extreme cases, this is actively manipulated in attempts to expand hype success, as was the case in Masamune-kun Revenge or G-Witch. As I mentioned, Tappei clearly cared about this up to a point, but since then he decided to "manage" the fanbase and just use Rem as a financial cow. Thanks to this, you get tons of Rem merch for any occasion, even if the event has nothing to do with her, and Subaru went from being an EMT-obsessed dude to suddenly being polyamorous.

The main problem at the moment is Emilia's incredibly toxic and aggressive fanboys, who seem to have entered the typical "the more obvious the ship, the more aggressive its fans" phase. This is a rather old, but at the same time strange phenomenon. The more obvious or stronger the ship seems, the more fanatical and intolerant its supporters become. Either way, all this Rem vs Emilia crap is just ruining the fandom and not a good time at a time when the franchise has become so popular that it has become a trend to hate.

@RobertBobert kurumi tokisaki from dal was a secondary character next to tohka and origami yet she is one of the most merchandised waifus to exist. So it actually isn't unique to re zero.

@icefirestone23 As far as I remember, the author of DAL also somehow went the “marry them all” route so as not to disappoint the fanbase.

@RobertBobert he never went the marry them all route. It is pretty clear after volume 20. Ishibumi from high school dxd and rifujin from mushoku did.

@icefirestone23 Did he only choose Touka?

@RobertBobert well cannot spoil here but one look at the later light novel covers explains enough https://date-a-live.fandom.com/wiki/Light_Novel#Main_Story#Main%20Story

@icefirestone23 Did they really choose the VN route?