Are there types of anime in which people will get offended if you recommend them to them?

Weird. I'm an atheist, I think Little house on the Prairie is boring, but not an excruciating experience that makes me hate the world. I enjoy some religious art, and don't feel any kind of hatred towards folks who don't want to fuck before marriage. I'm not sure trying to rationalize your stance like you did really works. Most people seem comfortable comfronting their views to the real world, and with the fact others might not think like them.

@Deathko This is a crock of bull. The average person would not want to watch a show involving—just a hypothetical example—a father's incestuous relationship with his twelve-year-old daughter. If he was a one-off character and met a brutal end, maybe, but not if it's the premise of the show and it's being portrayed in a positive light.

Nana or Scum's Wish would be the equivalent for me. My level of hatred and revulsion for those series' characters would be the same as an average middle-aged woman's watching a new series starring Diddy in his pursuit of little boys. And instead of condemning him for it, the show actively paints him as some kind of tragic figure too good for this world. Would you deign to tell that woman that ACTUALLY watching the Diddy show lets you see the world with a different pair of eyes, or something equally vague and optimistic? She'd look at you crazy if you did.

THAT'S why I brought up Horimiya and His and Her Circumstances: I don't like those shows and their romances, but it's the halfway point I'm willing to walk to. Being selectively minded isn't the same as being close-minded, and being open-minded isn't always the ideal mindset to have.

'Most people' are only comfortable confronting their views so long as the alternative is at least somewhat socially acceptable. If there was a documentary detailing the Third Reich and why Hitler killed those some-odd few thousand Chosenites, would the average man or woman in [insert western country here] rrrreeeeaaalllllllyyyy go into it with an open mind looking for a fresh perspective?

Little House on the Prairie was just the first thing that came to my head when thinking of wholesome, milquetoast, Christian TV programming. You personally didn't burst into flames just at a mere glance of it... and that's wonderful! I'm sure you didn't roll your eyes at all at every episode's moral quandary being chalked up to "just have faith in the Lord!" Definitely not.

Everyone has their biases and will gravitate towards the works that cater to those biases. Me putting on Rick and Morty or something equally cringe and contradictory to my own beliefs doesn't make me a better person or more understanding of the "fact that others might not think like me."

It just means I'm a mook with too much time to kill.

@Gentropy I'm sure you're not trying to say consensual sex between two adults is as morally reprehensible to you than grown powerful people abusing children. Besides, you have tons of late night "criminal" shows about Diddy or some horrible adulterous murders precisely for those middle-aged women... Half those shows are very clearly made with a christian audience in mind.

I don't think I said you should watch them expecting to have some kind of revelation that changes your mind. I can read Heinlein's Starship Trooper and appreciate it for what it is (a somewhat libertarian pamphlet disguised as great military sci-fi), disagree with most of it and still entertain his ideas on corporal punishment, citizenship, democracy etc without getting upset or feeling like my core values are being attacked. Same for Philip K Dick's anti abortion short story.

I think I'll skip the WW2 conspiracy part of your comment for the greater good.

If the show is obvious christian propaganda with shit writing, sure, I'll roll my eyes. I'll do the same if it's obvious atheist propaganda (like that happens...) with shit writing. The problem here isn't that it's christian or atheist, the problem is that it's shit. Why would I care if a movie reaffirms my beliefs and pats me on the back every five minutes? I just want it to be good.
I'm sure you do it to to an extent. Did you like Versailles no Bara because you approve of crossdressing; or did you like it because it was well-written, had a clever setting that allowed it to bring some social commentary while also conjuring Joan of Arc's image, had something compelling to say about us as a species or culture (wether you approve of the message), and was a good anime in general? From what I can get from our interaction, I'd think some of it would rub you the wrong way, yet you decided to put it in your favs above tons of slop that was mediocre but probably easier on your core values. Am I wrong?

Nice favs btw. NGE, Maison Ikkoku, Macross and Area 88? Yeah, I'm sold. Do yourself a favor and finish the Planetes manga. It's actually quite different from the anime, so at worst you're getting an alternative story. But I honestly think the anime can't hold a candle to it.

No no no, I said "a father's incestuous relationship with his twelve-year-old daughter" that was "portrayed in a positive light." I'm sure he wouldn't abuse her... unless you're operating on the basis that any relationship where one partner is of a questionable age is inherently abusive.

In which case, you just prove my point. Also, to answer your question: Sure. In some contexts, sure.



... So you're just gonna ignore the hypothetical entirely? It wouldn't be quite the same if Diddy's actions were actively portrayed as "just another walk of life" now would it?



Great. Good for you. "My anecdotal experience negates everything you said about the "majority" of people, or the "average" person. Because I can't look past my own experiences as a frame of reference."

On a related note: Total Bug Death.



Just further proving my point lol. Alright, fiiiiiiiinnnnneeee, I'll rewrite it: If there was a documentary detailing the Third Reich and why Hitler killed those 6 BILLION Chosenites, would the average man or woman in [insert western country here] rrrreeeeaaalllllllyyyy go into it with an open mind looking for a fresh perspective?

Happy now? Now will you answer the question?



LMAO you only type that sarcastically because it's written for you and your ilk. It just so happens that most modern works are atheistic in nature. Because there's no reason whatsoever for every majorly published work of fiction in the last 15 or so years to be Godless, Nihlistic, debauched drek used to cater to Satanic soy-sipping millennials. That definitely doesn't happen. Ever.



Watch the wholesome Diddy show or the wholesome father-daughter romance then. If you don't want shows to just constantly reaffirm your beliefs, then you shouldn't have any problems.

See how stupid that sounds? My point is that for a majority of people, works of fiction that fall outside of the Overton window are looked upon with disgust. Any of the hypotheticals I conjured up that this would apply to was met with an expected reaction from you.

My personal (emphasis put on that) limit would be shows like Scum's Wish and Nana. Is this hard for you to understand because you can't fathom the thought of someone being revolted by lauded degeneracy? Something like Rent-A-Girlfriend isn't universally hated because of the writing, or art, or whatever else you said: it's because the MC is a cuck and the feMC is a prostitute. That's it. It's disgusting. The same can be said for series like School Days. Do you really think most people hate them for some objective reason?



Nice gotcha. The cross-dressing was given a contextual purpose and didn't offend me. The same with the other contentious story elements: I didn't agree with all of them, but they didn't outright disgust or offend me.

And why does any of this matter? Why do you think pointing out these apparent contradictions disproves what I'm saying? Oscar dressing like a man doesn't revolt me—especially if a major theme of the story is that she's just a woman in the end anyway.



Thanks for checking my profile out. Are you pointing these out because you think they run in contradiction to what I'm saying, or because you think I'm a poser?

If it's the former, you should've namedropped Princess Kaguya (you already did Rose of Versailles.)

And if it's the latter, you should've namedropped Ashita no Joe... because it's not like Dragon Ball is in my favorites or anything, lmao.



It's written by that cuck Yukimura, sooooo that's gonna be a hard no from me.

The trend isn't even entirely new. His Dark Materials came out in the 90s. (To be clear, I agree with the point you're making.)


The main problem I have with School Days is that 11 of the episodes are boring.

No no no, I said "a father's incestuous relationship with his twelve-year-old daughter" that was "portrayed in a positive light." I'm sure he wouldn't abuse her... unless you're operating on the basis that any relationship where one partner is of a questionable age is inherently abusive.

In which case, you just prove my point. Also, to answer your question: Sure. In some contexts, sure.



... So you're just gonna ignore the hypothetical entirely? It wouldn't be quite the same if Diddy's actions were actively portrayed as "just another walk of life" now would it?



Great. Good for you. "My anecdotal experience negates everything you said about the "majority" of people, or the "average" person. Because I can't look past my own experiences as a frame of reference."

On a related note: Total Bug Death.



Just further proving my point lol. Alright, fiiiiiiiinnnnneeee, I'll rewrite it: If there was a documentary detailing the Third Reich and why Hitler killed those 6 BILLION Chosenites, would the average man or woman in [insert western country here] rrrreeeeaaalllllllyyyy go into it with an open mind looking for a fresh perspective?

Happy now? Now will you answer the question?



LMAO you only type that sarcastically because it's written for you and your ilk. It just so happens that most modern works are atheistic in nature. Because there's no reason whatsoever for every majorly published work of fiction in the last 15 or so years to be Godless, Nihlistic, debauched drek used to cater to Satanic soy-sipping millennials. That definitely doesn't happen. Ever.



Watch the wholesome Diddy show or the wholesome father-daughter romance then. If you don't want shows to just constantly reaffirm your beliefs, then you shouldn't have any problems.

See how stupid that sounds? My point is that for a majority of people, works of fiction that fall outside of the Overton window are looked upon with disgust. Any of the hypotheticals I conjured up that this would apply to was met with an expected reaction from you.

My personal (emphasis put on that) limit would be shows like Scum's Wish and Nana. Is this hard for you to understand because you can't fathom the thought of someone being revolted by lauded degeneracy? Something like Rent-A-Girlfriend isn't universally hated because of the writing, or art, or whatever else you said: it's because the MC is a cuck and the feMC is a prostitute. That's it. It's disgusting. The same can be said for series like School Days. Do you really think most people hate them for some objective reason?



Nice gotcha. The cross-dressing was given a contextual purpose and didn't offend me. The same with the other contentious story elements: I didn't agree with all of them, but they didn't outright disgust or offend me.

And why does any of this matter? Why do you think pointing out these apparent contradictions disproves what I'm saying? Oscar dressing like a man doesn't revolt me—especially if a major theme of the story is that she's just a woman in the end anyway.



Thanks for checking my profile out. Are you pointing these out because you think they run in contradiction to what I'm saying, or because you think I'm a poser?

If it's the former, you should've namedropped Princess Kaguya (you already did Rose of Versailles.)

And if it's the latter, you should've namedropped Ashita no Joe... because it's not like Dragon Ball is in my favorites or anything, lmao.



It's written by that cuck Yukimura, sooooo that's gonna be a hard no from me.