| School and sports festivals. Each class is responsible for cleaning the classroom. Cooking classes. The student council acts like an authority. After-school clubs. Cram schools. Brutal work culture. Onsens are very common. Karaoke as a hangout activity. 24h convenience stores. |
Reply to Lucifrost
@LifelineByNature
You said they work to avoid being shamed. I will never understand Japan if cheating is considered less shameful.
You said they work to avoid being shamed. I will never understand Japan if cheating is considered less shameful.
| @Lucifrost Honestly, you keep misunderstanding things every time, and I’ve gotten tired of correcting you. But since your comment might mislead other people who read it, I’ll reply this once. Though, to be honest, I don’t think you’ll actually read this or change your misunderstanding. I’ve been working for years, and not once have I ever worked “to avoid shame,” nor will I ever do so. The reason Japanese people work is simple — because if we don’t, we can’t make a living. If someone could live comfortably without working, they’d choose to stay unemployed even if others called them “lazy” or “shameful.” The background behind Japan’s so-called “diligence” isn’t about avoiding shame; it’s about wanting stability and the fact that losing your job can make it hard to survive. The high number of non-regular workers and the weak social safety net create a situation where many people have no choice but to keep working. So saying that people “work for appearances” ignores the socioeconomic reality — and as someone who actually works, I find that claim quite puzzling. Also, according to Japanese surveys (for example, Recruit Bridal Research), about 10–20% of married people have cheated, and in reality, men’s rates are slightly higher than women’s. In the past, many women stayed home as full-time housewives, but now, most households have both partners working, even after having children. Both men and women are busy with work. Under those conditions, the ones who cheat are probably people who have too much free time — or who naively believe they won’t get caught. Even though there’s no criminal punishment for cheating, the social consequences can be harsh: loss of reputation at work, damaged family relationships, and gossip from relatives or neighbors. So, from the perspective of someone who doesn’t cheat, honestly, I just think, “What an idiot.” Depending on the person, getting caught cheating would be so humiliating that they’d probably want to move, get divorced, or even quit their job. |
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| I remember learning about Sanja matsuri from kochikame. Ryoutsu, convinced me the mikoshi procession at the Sanja festival was a foot race, he mounts the shrine like a chariot, and barrels through Asakusa. |
Reply to kihel
@Lucifrost
Honestly, you keep misunderstanding things every time, and I’ve gotten tired of correcting you.
But since your comment might mislead other people who read it, I’ll reply this once.
Though, to be honest, I don’t think you’ll actually read this or change your misunderstanding.
I’ve been working for years, and not once have I ever worked “to avoid shame,” nor will I ever do so.
The reason Japanese people work is simple — because if we don’t, we can’t make a living.
If someone could live comfortably without working, they’d choose to stay unemployed even if others called them “lazy” or “shameful.”
The background behind Japan’s so-called “diligence” isn’t about avoiding shame; it’s about wanting stability and the fact that losing your job can make it hard to survive.
The high number of non-regular workers and the weak social safety net create a situation where many people have no choice but to keep working.
So saying that people “work for appearances” ignores the socioeconomic reality — and as someone who actually works, I find that claim quite puzzling.
Also, according to Japanese surveys (for example, Recruit Bridal Research), about 10–20% of married people have cheated, and in reality, men’s rates are slightly higher than women’s.
In the past, many women stayed home as full-time housewives, but now, most households have both partners working, even after having children.
Both men and women are busy with work.
Under those conditions, the ones who cheat are probably people who have too much free time — or who naively believe they won’t get caught.
Even though there’s no criminal punishment for cheating, the social consequences can be harsh: loss of reputation at work, damaged family relationships, and gossip from relatives or neighbors.
So, from the perspective of someone who doesn’t cheat, honestly, I just think, “What an idiot.”
Depending on the person, getting caught cheating would be so humiliating that they’d probably want to move, get divorced, or even quit their job.
Honestly, you keep misunderstanding things every time, and I’ve gotten tired of correcting you.
But since your comment might mislead other people who read it, I’ll reply this once.
Though, to be honest, I don’t think you’ll actually read this or change your misunderstanding.
I’ve been working for years, and not once have I ever worked “to avoid shame,” nor will I ever do so.
The reason Japanese people work is simple — because if we don’t, we can’t make a living.
If someone could live comfortably without working, they’d choose to stay unemployed even if others called them “lazy” or “shameful.”
The background behind Japan’s so-called “diligence” isn’t about avoiding shame; it’s about wanting stability and the fact that losing your job can make it hard to survive.
The high number of non-regular workers and the weak social safety net create a situation where many people have no choice but to keep working.
So saying that people “work for appearances” ignores the socioeconomic reality — and as someone who actually works, I find that claim quite puzzling.
Also, according to Japanese surveys (for example, Recruit Bridal Research), about 10–20% of married people have cheated, and in reality, men’s rates are slightly higher than women’s.
In the past, many women stayed home as full-time housewives, but now, most households have both partners working, even after having children.
Both men and women are busy with work.
Under those conditions, the ones who cheat are probably people who have too much free time — or who naively believe they won’t get caught.
Even though there’s no criminal punishment for cheating, the social consequences can be harsh: loss of reputation at work, damaged family relationships, and gossip from relatives or neighbors.
So, from the perspective of someone who doesn’t cheat, honestly, I just think, “What an idiot.”
Depending on the person, getting caught cheating would be so humiliating that they’d probably want to move, get divorced, or even quit their job.
kihel said: Also, according to Japanese surveys (for example, Recruit Bridal Research), about 10–20% of married people have cheated, and in reality, men’s rates are slightly higher than women’s. In the past, many women stayed home as full-time housewives, but now, most households have both partners working, even after having children. Both men and women are busy with work. Under those conditions, the ones who cheat are probably people who have too much free time — or who naively believe they won’t get caught. Even though there’s no criminal punishment for cheating, the social consequences can be harsh: loss of reputation at work, damaged family relationships, and gossip from relatives or neighbors. So, from the perspective of someone who doesn’t cheat, honestly, I just think, “What an idiot.” Depending on the person, getting caught cheating would be so humiliating that they’d probably want to move, get divorced, or even quit their job. Yeah, this is something I've found a little odd. It seems the idea that Japanese people cheat like crazy has been something I've seen people mention. It seems like it either comes from Youtube click bait videos or just anecdotal evidence and then people assume that must be the case. From the very few actual surveys I've seen about this Japanese people cheat a little bit more than the global average and feel it's acceptable a little bit more than the average. I don't know, it just seems weird that this comes up. As far as the topic's question. I'd say people just need to be careful thinking they learned about Japanese people's mindsets, how they think and act from anime. That's a bad idea. I don't think you're going to get some deep sociological or philosophical understanding obviously. But when it just comes to daily life and structure stuff, sure I think you can certainly pick up on things. I feel like most anime fans probably have learned at least a bit about school since it's done so often and most fans probably know about some yearly events/traditions and things you'd see in day to day life. This is all with the caveat that you can know enough to ignore the completely absurd stuff. |
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| People go from the interior to the big cities for education and jobs, and their parents keep asking them to go back and inherit the store/farm (Nana, Precure, Sakura quest, Genshiken, Conan, Yakitate Japan, ...). They may optionally send vegetables too. (Working, Kaichou ha maid sama) People litter the rural areas (Hyakushou kizoku), and basically any green place possible, but people volunteer to collect garbage. (Minami Ke) Public servants are a cool job because it is safe and pays well. (Assistant x Service, Zettai Karen Children) Mixed messages between respect and saying they are public parasytes. (Sakura quest, Gintama, Godzilla). There is this sport called Karuta, plays like real time memory, only japanese do. Lots of local tournaments, and those qualify you to a game that is broadcasted by nhk. (Chihayafuru) NHK also will broadcast Go. (Hikaru no go). There is people living outdoors (Arakawa, Hinamatsuri, Tokyo Godfathers, Gintama). Despite the legend that you can buy a decaying house for free! Compulsory school ends at 14/Middle school (Bakuman, Nana, Eyeshield 21). Yakult selling ladies exist (Hayate no Gotoku, Kami nomi zo shiru sekai). Sapporo's Hokkaido Snow Festival (Gintama, and it keeps appearing in other shows) with the giant ice sculptures. Comiket (Genshiken, Doujin work, Comic Party). New year and christmas celebrations (I think all above apply). |
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