Reply to BilboBaggins365
thewiru said:
The Tate no Yuusha author literally chose major events via forum polls, it's laughable to say that they had long-term plans.
What really lol? Honestly now I judge the readers more for that. The Tate no Yuusha author literally chose major events via forum polls, it's laughable to say that they had long-term plans.
| @BilboBaggins365 Yup, Raphtalia getting aged? It was a poll. |
Reply to Flick_on
@BilboBaggins365 I actually meant in the manner of "No need to give deeper responses, it's all power fantasy trash anyway"
I don't know why you're so triggered I'm not talking mainly about you (maybe i've been should have shown that more clearly, i had actually the least problem with your responses). that's why I didn't respond to you directly
again then it's not necessarily about you and it wasn't even about you actually, to reiterate focusing on tropes and formalisms is just extrremely surface level, that's just in general And how despite you not listening to anituber and posts online or whatever (i mean thats what everyone says and not really how it works but i actually believe you) has reproduced this is kinda yeah. i mean you're not a blank slate like people (not YOU) claim isekai protags always are but since:
yeah you dont.
But its most likely not an educated opinion. you can at least be familiarize yourself with what youre watching (watch stuff of every type or something idk) and/or engage with it in good faith. or is it really just sketchy consumption of this "trash" and creating a discussion ecosystem of superficially calling it "trash"
I actually think isekai are somewhat precious not that they're dear to me but because how ubiquitous they are
I don't know why you're so triggered I'm not talking mainly about you (maybe i've been should have shown that more clearly, i had actually the least problem with your responses). that's why I didn't respond to you directly
BilboBaggins365 said:
What are you just butthurt people don't like specific tropes lol? There is no mythologies here, I have watched some, and there are things I don't like universally in many....it's that simple dude.
What are you just butthurt people don't like specific tropes lol? There is no mythologies here, I have watched some, and there are things I don't like universally in many....it's that simple dude.
again then it's not necessarily about you and it wasn't even about you actually, to reiterate focusing on tropes and formalisms is just extrremely surface level, that's just in general And how despite you not listening to anituber and posts online or whatever (i mean thats what everyone says and not really how it works but i actually believe you) has reproduced this is kinda yeah. i mean you're not a blank slate like people (not YOU) claim isekai protags always are but since:
BilboBaggins365 said:
You don't need to watch every single major show in a genre to give opinions on it.
You don't need to watch every single major show in a genre to give opinions on it.
yeah you dont.
But its most likely not an educated opinion. you can at least be familiarize yourself with what youre watching (watch stuff of every type or something idk) and/or engage with it in good faith. or is it really just sketchy consumption of this "trash" and creating a discussion ecosystem of superficially calling it "trash"
BilboBaggins365 said:
just maybe, it's because there is an element of truth, for a lot of people regarding these works eh?
Can't be an element of Truth when it's extremely popular, especially internationally, creating this dissonance for which the response is sour dose of cynicism.just maybe, it's because there is an element of truth, for a lot of people regarding these works eh?
I actually think isekai are somewhat precious not that they're dear to me but because how ubiquitous they are
Flick_on said: Eh....you can have standards for "power fantasy trash too", like you can have standards for everything. Power fantasy stories, have elements that make them good, or bad, even in that way. IDK maybe it's just me, however, I have standards for even "low class art". I actually meant in the manner of "No need to give deeper responses, it's all power fantasy trash anyway" Flick_on said: I was the one who brought up the fact, that I feel these authors would benefit from more real world inspiration, and you brought that up in a negative way, so I assumed I was one of the main ones you were responding to. , i had actually the least problem with your responses). that's why I didn't respond to you directly If not fine, I just thought that you were being overly snarky to my comment, which again I don't think is very "spicy". It's not like I am bashing isekai fans, just explaining to OP how I feel about some of his points as an isekai "cynic", so he can understand critics of this genre/setting more. Even in that case I have isekai that I like too. Flick_on said: That means literally 99% of opinions, aren't educated on the media they talk about, which fair, if that is your feeling on the matter. I just think that is a pretty wide extreme. If someone has watched 7-8 varied mecha shows, for me, I think it's fair for them to give a wide opinion on whether they like the genre or not. It may not be the most "educated" opinion, however, it is a fair one. yeah you dont. But its most likely not an educated opinion. you can at least be familiarize yourself with what youre watching (watch stuff of every type or something idk) and/or engage with it in good faith. or is it really just sketchy consumption of this "trash" and creating a discussion ecosystem of superficially calling it "trash" Flick_on said: I mean....I don't think there is disagreement that it is popular. Something can be extremely popular with some people, and also have plenty of detractors. Can't be an element of Truth when it's extremely popular, especially internationally, Flick_on said: Okay....I don't see how "ubiquitous" something is, would engender that, however, whatever works for you I suppose. I actually think isekai are somewhat precious not that they're dear to me but because how ubiquitous they are Any major plot stuff though? |
Reply to Guilmon1
@butahime as someone who doesn't like video games
They have a lot more of an artistic merit than most isekai
They have a lot more of an artistic merit than most isekai
| @Guilmon1 It is true yet sad. Games don't even need good stories if they can make up for it with gameplay. What value does a novel have without a good story? https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1916678 |
| その目だれの目？ |
Reply to Guilmon1
@butahime as someone who doesn't like video games
They have a lot more of an artistic merit than most isekai
They have a lot more of an artistic merit than most isekai
| @Guilmon1 Yeah it is weird, despite my limited time with JRPGs (I have played Fire Emblem), the stories in those works, aren't that bad. So to me, it really is just a talent issue, rather than cultural, or some other reason. Anime could do better. |
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