Don't you think this anime would have been much better without Noelle?

Jun 7, 2021 1:40 PM

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She is useless, she practically exists only for fanservice. Don't you think this anime would have been much better without Noelle?

Jun 7, 2021 1:51 PM

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No way. Her personal growth throughout the series, despite her depressing backstory, has been one of my favorite things to watch. She's a great example of how Asta changes those around him.

Jun 7, 2021 1:53 PM

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Nope, completely disagree. She has one of the better developments through the show

Jun 7, 2021 1:56 PM

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At the start I would have agreed with you but now no. I like the plot revolving around her. Just wish she wasn't a tsundere. Just my personal taste

Jun 7, 2021 1:56 PM

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Nooo I disagree she one of the best written female character in shoune jump! What episode are you in rn?

Jun 7, 2021 2:03 PM

1abir1

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Read the manga and then think ☺️

Jun 7, 2021 2:03 PM

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She carries the whole anime tbh, she is the fanservice

Jun 7, 2021 2:06 PM

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Banach98 said:
She is useless, she practically exists only for fanservice. Don't you think this anime would have been much better without Noelle?

She is what Sakura should've been... What are u even chatting about? Yes the most recent arc with her bust getting bigger with the mermaid form was a little annoying but other then that she hasn't had much fan service. Tamaki from FF is real "fan service" and THAT is something you should be mad about.

Jun 7, 2021 2:08 PM

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Uhh are you sure you've mistaken noelle for Venessa?
Even though both Noelle and Venessa are one of the best written female characters in the entire shounen jump.

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Jun 7, 2021 2:13 PM

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I mostly agree. I find her to be extremely annoying, but I have to admit that she has some good development. Some tweaks and she could have been a great character.
Now on the other hand. Asta? He sucks. Okay, he's not that bad. He has decent development (for the most part) and some pretty wicked powers. He just needs to stop screaming about everything. Cleaning the floors? 'Rrraaaahhhhhh!' *normal conversation* 'OII!!! Whats going on over hereeee!?'
'Wizard King!!!!'
Calm down bud. Not everything needs you to scream your lungs out

Jun 7, 2021 2:17 PM

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Bruh what. It wouldn't be the same without Noelle. She is miles away from useless. You can see her growth throughout the whole show and how she interacts with Asta, her family, and the rest of the Black Bulls. One of the best new gen female characters.

Jun 7, 2021 2:19 PM

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Scordolo said:
Uhh are you sure you've mistaken noelle for Venessa?
Even though both Noelle and Venessa are one of the best written characters in the entire shounen jump.

they're not the best written characters in shonen jump, not even the best-written shonen jump female characters.

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Jun 7, 2021 2:22 PM

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As far as I remember there was barely any fan service of Noelle so what gives?

...

Jun 7, 2021 2:25 PM

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Bruh what episode are you on?

Some things can only be achieved through animation.

Jun 7, 2021 2:25 PM

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Deathlydash said:

Scordolo said:
Uhh are you sure you've mistaken noelle for Venessa?
Even though both Noelle and Venessa are one of the best written characters in the entire shounen jump.

they're not the best written characters in shonen jump, not even the best-written shonen jump female characters.

Haha you've gotta be kidding me.....

Mo168 said:
As far as I remember there was barely any fan service of Noelle so what gives?

Exactly.I don't get what OP is on about.

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Jun 7, 2021 2:28 PM

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13 year olds disliking characters… such a gen z stereotype

Jun 7, 2021 2:28 PM

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Deathlydash said:

Scordolo said:
Uhh are you sure you've mistaken noelle for Venessa?
Even though both Noelle and Venessa are one of the best written characters in the entire shounen jump.

they're not the best written characters in shonen jump, not even the best-written shonen jump female characters.

he said one of the best, learn how to read man

Jun 7, 2021 2:29 PM

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Banach98 said:
She is useless, she practically exists only for fanservice. Don't you think this anime would have been much better without Noelle?

um what, fan service??, THERES barely any of fan service of her so idk wdym, plus there isn’t exactly a lot of fan service in BC anyway so?

Jun 7, 2021 2:32 PM

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Scordolo said:

Deathlydash said:

they're not the best written characters in shonen jump, not even the best-written shonen jump female characters.

Haha you've gotta be kidding me.....

im not kidding, noelle is probably the best female lead in shonen jump but there's better shonen jump characters than her.

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Jun 7, 2021 2:35 PM

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Deathlydash said:

Scordolo said:

Haha you've gotta be kidding me.....

im not kidding, noelle is probably the best female lead in shonen jump but there's better shonen jump characters than her.

Should've added "female" in my post lmao.

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Jun 7, 2021 2:40 PM

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I heard BC had good female characters so this thread surprised me.

Jun 7, 2021 2:40 PM

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Sensei_1 said:
At the start I would have agreed with you but now no. I like the plot revolving around her. Just wish she wasn't a tsundere. Just my personal taste

Honestly, I agree with you.

Jun 7, 2021 2:54 PM

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Bro wtf are u smoking, she’s one of the best characters

Jun 7, 2021 2:58 PM

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I disagree on that

Jun 7, 2021 3:36 PM

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MoonStar9 said:
I heard BC had good female characters so this thread surprised me.

This guy is in the minority, she and the other female characters are really well liked and popular. While it's true that Noelle has her annoying moments (mainly being a tsundere) her overall journey has been nice to watch. It's rare to see a female character maintain relevancy and continuous development for so long alongside the protagonist, and yet here we are 170 episodes later. Another shounen I probably prefer more overall (My Hero Academia) even struggles with this as the main female lead Uraraka has fallen into the background for the most part outside of some moments. And in terms of fan service, only example I can think of is her most recent fight which was distracting but not awful.

Are ya winning, diners?

Jun 7, 2021 3:52 PM

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Idk, that’s a tough question.

Jun 7, 2021 3:54 PM

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Banach98 said:
She is useless, she practically exists only for fanservice. Don't you think this anime would have been much better without Noelle?

Wtf she is only main girl in shounen I saw having strong enemies and bearing their asses easily.Her development is great and she is probably one of best character of show...

Jun 7, 2021 4:05 PM

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Currently in manga noelle is given equal to asta she is damm too strong

Jun 7, 2021 4:36 PM

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If u read the manga you can see shes not useless

Jun 7, 2021 5:30 PM

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EliteWarrior910 said:
I mostly agree. I find her to be extremely annoying, but I have to admit that she has some good development. Some tweaks and she could have been a great character.
Now on the other hand. Asta? He sucks. Okay, he's not that bad. He has decent development (for the most part) and some pretty wicked powers. He just needs to stop screaming about everything. Cleaning the floors? 'Rrraaaahhhhhh!' *normal conversation* 'OII!!! Whats going on over hereeee!?'
'Wizard King!!!!'
Calm down bud. Not everything needs you to scream your lungs out

Wait huh? Asta hasn’t done any of that in so long and even so that’s such a little thing to nitpick about imo

Jun 7, 2021 5:31 PM

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Banach98 said:
She is useless, she practically exists only for fanservice. Don't you think this anime would have been much better without Noelle?

Tell me you didn’t watch black clover without telling me you didn’t watch black clover

Jun 7, 2021 5:57 PM

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Banach98 said:
She is useless, she practically exists only for fanservice. Don't you think this anime would have been much better without Noelle?

No way. If Noelle wasn’t in the show then there would one less pair of boobs to look at. And that would be a tragedy

Jun 7, 2021 6:00 PM

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Yeah....don’t like her at all. Don’t want to hate but shit man her shitty attitude and constant belittlement of every fucking character is fucking unjust. Then she gets this silly water dancing armor and suddenly she’s utterly bewitching , a ‘so called sight to behold’.
And super duper overpowered, are you joking me?
Nah that shit does not sit nicely with me.
Entitled bitch.

Jun 7, 2021 6:01 PM

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“Growth” my ass

Jun 7, 2021 6:09 PM

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Dude have some standards. Boobs doesn’t make the anime damn great. Tits are nothing more than a means of increasing viewership/clickbait for goddam perverts :/.
Wow !
Round of applause for stupid massive tits leaving dudes everywhere with a tent taking obvious shape on their pants.
Thank you

Jun 7, 2021 6:15 PM

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Hahahaha! Did we watch the same Noelle? Hell, did we even watch the same Black Clover? LMAO!

Jun 7, 2021 6:28 PM

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If you answered yes you are extremely wrong and just hate on the anime if you need an example read the latest chapter of black clover

Jun 7, 2021 6:29 PM

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Read the manga and then think ☺️

If you answered yes you are extremely wrong and just hate on the anime if you need an example read the latest chapter of black clover for reals it’s crazy how ignorant people can get

Jun 7, 2021 7:01 PM

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Hard disagree, when she has one of the best development for a character, shes spoiled tsundere but over time she started to accept others around her as equal while still retaining that hint of "I'm a royalty" and the same time being a caring tsundere style.

Hhhmmmmmm.......

Jun 7, 2021 7:10 PM

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I don't think so, in fact I think Noelle is one of the best heroines. Her character development throughout the show was just amazing and I don't know why you said she's useless but she can fight on her own without needing the help of the mc, unlike Sakura.

In this world shrouded in darkness, I learned there was someone who’d been struggling along with me. That alone is enough.

Jun 7, 2021 7:21 PM

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yungsinglefather said:

Wait huh? Asta hasn’t done any of that in so long and even so that’s such a little thing to nitpick about imo

Has he? I can't remember all that well because I haven't seen it in a while. But that was one of the things that annoyed me the most about the show. I honestly like the show a lot, but I couldn't get over Asta's constant yelling. Eventually I was able to tune it out, which is probably why I can't remember him doing it after a while, but that was and still is my biggest problem. I just found it to be overly annoying.

Jun 7, 2021 7:48 PM

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Banach98 said:
She is useless, she practically exists only for fanservice. Don't you think this anime would have been much better without Noelle?

No , she is very useful.

Jun 7, 2021 7:52 PM

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Yeah mate I have the same thought the other day . Her personality trait is just unbare for me and other side character would have worked pretty good with Asta but not Noelle

Jun 7, 2021 8:07 PM

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Dude no way Noelle is best girl and lowkey the best character in the whole show next to Yami she had the most interesting back story of all the characters and has great development as a character and her love for asta makes sense because asta was the first to really support her even tho she couldn’t control her magic when Noelle is on the tv screen that’s when I feel like I’m really watching Black Clover

Jun 7, 2021 8:47 PM

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nop, i couldn't be more disagree, she is one of the best examples of hardworking, determination and strength, probably the best female character of black clover (maybe after Mereoleona) and one of my favorites in all anime, in conclusion that's cap.

Jun 7, 2021 9:07 PM

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only partly because she may be insufferble but she and her charecter arc are importent for the story

Jun 7, 2021 9:30 PM

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Not at all. She is one of the best (if not the best) female characters in Shounen. Her character development is great and she is able to keep up with the other main characters. She has had many key moments: Breaking out of character and saving peasants in Saussy village, learning sea dragon's roar and finally being able to attack, finally confronting Solid, Valkyrie Armor, being acknowledged by Nozel. She is also very relevant to the current arc and has had some cool moments in the manga

Jun 7, 2021 10:11 PM

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Banach98 said:
She is useless, she practically exists only for fanservice. Don't you think this anime would have been much better without Noelle?

if you actually think this your dumb no offense she has great character development and she’s extremely powerful she only has a few scenes that can be said like oh that’s fan service your acting like everytime she’s on screen there’s fan service

Jun 7, 2021 10:20 PM

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What..??
No way...
She's one of the best female characters I've ever seen...
I think you've just started the anime and maybe that's the reason you don't like her...
But trust me just keep going...
She has a lot of character development, and you'll probably like her later on in the series...

Jun 7, 2021 10:33 PM

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Yeah....don’t like her at all. Don’t want to hate but shit man her shitty attitude and constant belittlement of every fucking character is fucking unjust. Then she gets this silly water dancing armor and suddenly she’s utterly bewitching , a ‘so called sight to behold’.
And super duper overpowered, are you joking me?
Nah that shit does not sit nicely with me.
Entitled bitch.

The anime highly exaggerated her tsundere quirks, just watch the scene during the star festival, were she helps the pheasant girl and then say her attitude is bad again. Plus the water armor was totally justified and made sense

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