| She’s not the only interesting character though. Don’t know how you can even say that when this is a prologue and some of the main characters haven’t even been introduced yet. Also, Aqua and Ruby get a substantial amount of development as well. |
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| While Ai is an interesting character she's essentially the synopsis should've clued you in that Ai was not the main star but the clickbait. Try to be open to other characters as they're introduced throughout the series because they also have their own narratives that will interest you I'm sure. |
| I can't say I'm disappointed, as I knew nothing about the story prior to watching the first episode - I knew the name "Oshi no Ko", but nothing about what it was. That said, I don't think there was much in this episode that stood out beyond the frankly fantastic animation. At least in my eyes, the twist was way too obvious (there really wouldn't have been much of a story if they hadn't followed through with the whole bright burning star symbolism relating to Ai), the conclusion Aqua comes to and deviation to revenge plot is equally obvious, and the honestly just strange and uncomfortable behavior from both Aqua/the Doc (forget his original name) and Ruby/Sarina was extremely off-putting. I'm certainly willing to continue watching to see if there's any particular twists that catch me off guard, but I personally hope the writing can show off more strength to accomplish that. Otherwise, as it stands for me, I'm far more interested in seeing how the show is animated - the show is visually stunning, moreso than most of the bigger titles in recent years. Tl;dr, not disappointed, but not overly impressed. I'm a sucker for mysteries, but writing needs to be solid. From what others have said, it does have that element, so I'm intrigued enough to not be too bothered with my initial impressions. |
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belial said: Maybe I shouldn't have picked this blind, because I just went into it thinking the story would be completely different. The interesting part of the whole story for me was Hoshino Ai (Rieri <3), "changing it" to a tensei as a murder mystery is just meh I will probably continue to watch anyway and probably enjoy it, but right now, I'm just so disappointed they killed the only interesting character at the end of Ep1 Haha only interesting character huh? Wait for the Akane,Aqua and Ruby peaks. |
Qxujevoz said: 1- Fair point but human don't always act logical. Gorou was visibly rattled that Ai's secret was revealed and went with the flow to follow the guy. Not unrealistic.There are several plot holes that cumulatively affected my ability to enjoy this: • While it's commendable that Doctor Gorou tried to protect Ai, it's extremely unwise/illogical to chase a stalker or any other stranger into the woods. • Gorou & Sarina remeet each other when reincarnated as Ai's twin babies, suspect each other's identities but contrivedly never mention it. • Aqua had so many years to warn Ai about her stalker who killed him as Gorou but NEVER did! • Doctor Gorou/Aqua took far too long to call ambulance for Ai which totally diminished that supposedly tear-jerking scene. • After 10-12 year timeskip, it seems Aqua did very little to advance any plans against stalker Ryousuke. These things made me have a shouting match with the screen. Also, the fundamental flaw is this prudish dogmatic East Asian idol culture. Making idols essentially celibate to pander to strangers as a marketing ploy is more likely to breed delusion, eg. that nonsense in Heroines Run The Show anime. Gorou gets a SLIGHT pass despite being too obsessive with Ai since it was his strange way of coping with Sarina's death. 2- Why would they suspect? Gorou know Sarina died long ago, Ai has as lot of fan. Ruby admiration for Ai only reminded him of someone he once knew, he has no reason to think Sarina who died years ago reincarnated into Ruby. Does it never happen that someone remind you of a past acquaintance? Ruby has literally 0 reason to think it's Gorou, she doesn't even know he is dead and has no reason to think so. 3- Why? This premise assume that Aqua is fine mentionning his past life to Ai. They were already taking measurement, hence "recently moved to another house" just before Ai's muder. 4- Fair point. But the stalker is still there with his knife held in front of Aqua and Ai. Maybe it's safer to call an ambulance when you are not immediately in danger? 5- The stalker is dead. What plan to make about Ryousuke? Go piss on his grave? Lol Hope this help you a bit, I don't think those point should be considered plothole. |
| Yeah, you are not completely wrong tho. Ai was the most beloved character in the first episode. Her death really hit hard and made me feel empty. However, I can't say that I was completely disappointed with this anime. Everything was really well done. |
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| I'm not sure about the episode being disappointing since it was a pretty well-done 1hr+ pilot. But to be fair, I think I get what you mean. To summarize my own opinion about this: This should have been officially a "Prologue" Special Episode, not a 1hr+ first episode. I personally didn't have any expectations going in since I was only forced to rush and watch this Anime after some internet peeps started sharing and implying spoilers about this. But I did enjoy the flow of the story and was curious how they'd handle the dark side of the story while also keeping a bubbly-lovely side. But with how it ended, I've now lost most of my curiosity seeing as it's clear now that it would be basically a Tensei/Mystery/Detective Anime. That in itself would've been fine if this was officially a prologue. But with how it was, it felt like a bit of a bait and switch. But not entirely since there already was a killed character early on with a mystery killer still lurking around so, some mystery stuff should've been expected in the first place. But then they killed off that killer and now the focus is on who might be the mastermind which is, IMO, less interesting without the "Hosino Ai" character around. With that being said, that was a pretty good prologue that gave this Anime some uniqueness to it. Hopefully, it does end up being a Tensei/Tantei Anime of its own to the end. |
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I assumed as much from other replies, it can turn out quite good as-is without being a mystery plot. But there's more anime like that and I feel like the plot will become more of a weakness as some people here already commented about the next arcs and their less than perfect writing. It would have been nice to have an anime about the idol industry with someone like Hoshino Ai, that's why I think the author just threw away what was unique and interesting about the initial setting. Ofc, this doesn't mean the anime can't be good overall. Seems like people in MAL read the title and nothing else. I greatly enjoyed ep1 and currently have it as 9/10. The animation was great and the plotholes on ep1 were a bit bad but forgivable in the setting. Less than perfect writing is fine in plots that are character driven. But I can't ignore that imo killing off Hoshino Ai was a missed opportunity to do something greater, and for that, I will continue to be disappointed on it. |
Qxujevoz said: 1- It's just a matter of opinion at this point. In my opinion you have to learn to accept some illogical action once in a while. It's fine to criticize it when it happens often but not when it's rarely used. Have to agree to disagree, the rest of the episode is not filled with those anyway. Thai777 said: 1 to 5. Yes, illogic is realistic but it doesn't mean creators should keep relying on the most unwise of unwisdom for conflict. 1- Fair point but human don't always act logical. Gorou was visibly rattled that Ai's secret was revealed and went with the flow to follow the guy. Not unrealistic. 2- Why would they suspect? Gorou know Sarina died long ago, Ai has as lot of fan. Ruby admiration for Ai only reminded him of someone he once knew, he has no reason to think Sarina who died years ago reincarnated into Ruby. Does it never happen that someone remind you of a past acquaintance? Ruby has literally 0 reason to think it's Gorou, she doesn't even know he is dead and has no reason to think so. 3- Why? This premise assume that Aqua is fine mentionning his past life to Ai. They were already taking measurement, hence "recently moved to another house" just before Ai's muder. 4- Fair point. But the stalker is still there with his knife held in front of Aqua and Ai. Maybe it's safer to call an ambulance when you are not immediately in danger? 5- The stalker is dead. What plan to make about Ryousuke? Go piss on his grave? Lol Hope this help you a bit, I don't think those point should be considered plothole. 2. After dealing with each other as twins, Ruby thought of Gorou & Aqua thought of Sarina. After experiencing magic 1sthand, it's quite contrivedly arbitrary to not @ least ask if the other knows Gorou or Sarina out of curiosity. 3. Utterly shortsighted since the stalker is still @ large. 4. Ruby could've called too. & even Ai mentioned her folly of not using door-chain. & even if Ai has no 1st hand experience, it should be common knowledge for celebs to be wary of stalkers ergo being extra cautious. 5. Sorry, that should be Ryousuke's accomplice. 2- You only think so because you have a third person perspective with more information than them. Put yourself in their shoes, they have no reason to assume the other is Gorou/Sarina, their situation (reincarnation) is already quite unlikely. I'll repeat that Sarina died 4 years before so Gorou and Sarina doesn't even know Gorou died. To make it worse Ruby made it clear she doesn't want to talk about their past life in kindergarten. 3- Again... if Ai never called the father the stalker would have never found Ai. You are using hindsight for this argument, Aqua is risking his whole life with Ai if he reveal he is reincarnated just to be slightly more careful when they already are. Like if Aqua had some hint that Ai would be in danger I can see it happening, but him just revealing himself randomly? That would be way weirder. 4- Ruby didn't know anything was happening so no call, she came late. Did it happen to make it dramatic? Yes. Does it contradict the plot? No. Now this is a completely different argument with Ai. I will just agree to disagree, she just had a lapse of judgement probably because she was taken by surprise. Ai is young, lived in an orphanage and is kinda sheltered(just look at every house we see in the first ep, they are fancy), if that explanation isn't enough to convince you then it is how it is. 5- First episode is already really really long, it's fine to leave a bit for after it you know. Just keep watching. Again, I don't think those are plothole. Just your opinion on some of the events. A real plothole would be why no one question how the Twins use cellphone while being toddler and how good they are at using it. Someone also has to pay their plan for it and I see no logical person pay for 2 cellphone plan for toddler <4 years old. I hope a gave you another perspective that help, it's just a bit disappointing that those point bothered you when in my eyes they are not a problem. |
flygon727 said: Oshi can be both the person you support or a hard-core supporter. So 推しの子 can mean "The child who supports me" [or child who is a hard-core fan] as well, lol. I'm pretty sure the Ko in Oshi no Ko can mean both child and girl based on context. So Oshi no Ko could be "child of my favorite idol" or "my favorite idol" . Edit: was meant to be a reply to |
| I was also disapointed but that might have been my fault. I had normal expectations at first bc all the mangatubers i watched did like the first volume but wasnt going crazy about it but then i saw that the first episode got 1 rating and that people were calling it like dark and serious and an interesting look into the idol industry so my expeectations went big. i wasnt that surprised that Ai died so i was kinda waiting for the thing/moment that had people so into it? lI dunno maybe its just bc i suck watching movie lenght stuff. im glad others like it |
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| I wouldn't say I'm disappointed because I had no expectations, but I will say I thought the first episode was just "fine". The twist ending was very good and it creates a great hook. But the first hour and 10 minutes was rough to get through. |
| so... as a rule of thumb, if you as a writer are planning to make an entire arc about a certain character that ends in her death, you are probably going to make that character the most interesting in that section. of course she was the best character of this episode, she was the main focus. give it a little time, and if it can't make you care about the others just as much, then this is a valid complaint. |
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| nah, I think ep 1 is a masterpiece... I like these prologue |
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| Me too, though I was only disappointed at the part where Ai got stabbed. |
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aenews said: When Ai's bra was about to slip at a point, Aqua also fixed it. If anything, I felt Aqua's characterization here was calling out other series (e.g. Jobless Reincarnation) There's no callout there, why would you want the boobs of your mother to be visible to other people? Rudeus from Mushoku Tensei would do the same in this situation. You are basically reading too much into the situation Apolygon2 said: so... as a rule of thumb, if you as a writer are planning to make an entire arc about a certain character that ends in her death, you are probably going to make that character the most interesting in that section. of course she was the best character of this episode, she was the main focus. give it a little time, and if it can't make you care about the others just as much, then this is a valid complaint. Ep2 is out, plot is slow and meh, and there's no interesting characters and animation also dropped. The next eps will go into romance and more slice of life, which is fine, but it's a way worse plot than it would be with Hoshino Ai. I can bet I can ping you at the end of the anime and still hold the exact same opinion. |
belial said: maybe, idkEp2 is out, plot is slow and meh, and there's no interesting characters and animation also dropped. The next eps will go into romance and more slice of life, which is fine, but it's a way worse plot than it would be with Hoshino Ai. I can bet I can ping you at the end of the anime and still hold the exact same opinion. I'm anime only... but give it time to build up a new plot line. looking at the favorites from manga readers AI is not even the fan favorite character. |
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