| Gon's power up is like his Berserk mode. He gave up a chunk of his life to quickly gain a boost against Pitou out of pure rage and hatred. Honestly, this showed a completely different side of Gon that is more ruthless. Much like Guts in his dragonslayer armor. Characters such as Netero were already at their peak in terms of their nen powers. He already went over his prime and had nothing to lose for against Meruem. Hence him using the rose bomb on himself as a contingency plan. |
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CickNipolla said: RabbitBeardy said: Bro, Kite is like the father for Gon, he admire him from his childhood. Maybe you forget that Gon is technically still a Kid/teenagers, his denial of Kite Death and Self Hatred only amplified what's already there, his dark side were brought to surface. He grow more selfish, self center and disregard everything else except his revenge on Pitou. He's change of course after all the experience and emotions, it's called Character Development. the anime does not show this " kite father figure " at all. from what i understand the manga does a better job, but the anime does not paint that picture at all, which is why the chimera arc falls so flat. there is no build up so the reward is meaningless the manga does at the beginning of the story. That’s really one change that annoys me but you got a point on this one. |
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CickNipolla said: I feel like its obvious that I am talking about the Chimera Arc, as it tends to have the most problems out of any of the arcs. Towards the end of the arc, when Gon " gives up everything " to power up.... it creates a ridiculous and unrealistic precedent that doesnt make sense at all. If a strong nen user could just power up and become insanely powerful at the cost of their nen, then why wouldnt they all do it? Why didnt Netero do it to beat Mereum? Why doesnt Kite do it to not die to Pitou? Theres really no reason someone wouldnt do this move if they felt their life was at risk and they were losing to an opponent. Because they would give up their nen and almost die in the process. Gon did an extremely stupid thing just for revenge and almost died because of it. An experienced nen user would NEVER do such thing |
ScionOfCyan said: ven999s said: Btw Chimera Ant arc follow the manga direction ('99 adaptation follow manga direction too), where Kite is the one people who makes Gon whan to become a Hunter to find his dad, just like Shanks make Luffy want to be Pirate King. The event appears after Kite save Gon from the bear. That is one of the most important event in Hunter x Hunter series, whereas in Hunter x Hunter 2011 ver., it just a flashback (appears in Chimera Ant arc) You’re right, Killer-King helped me understand this. Killer-King said: I don't agree with you but thanks for writing this all 🤗🤗 I will read them later for better understanding. Man...no need to be toxic. They have their reasons for what they said. You should try to read their other posts for better context. Thanks 😊 Gon’s outburst of rage does seem a bit unwarranted, I will admit. He doesn’t really seem to know Kite all that much so I will give you that. Though for your other point of Gon being agreeable or disagreeable, I’m not so sure how I feel about that. I do have a similar thought process that if a introverted person suddenly becomes very sociable, I would also consider that objectively bad writing. It just doesn’t make sense. Though, on the other hand, what if they had a reason? An example could be that an introvert was forced to be in a sociable situation. If someone, either blackmailed or threatened them in some way, or heck maybe their friends encouraged them to be more outgoing. In Gon’s case it could be such reasons why he might seem like an inconsistent character. And it’s not just Gon, it’s lots of characters from anime, manga, tv shows, movies and etc. I believe that some characters are more complicated than just being “agreeable” or “disagreeable”. Look at Reiner from AOT, he is literally the embodiment of a complicated, well written character that can’t be described so easily. |
Abajur said: CickNipolla said: here is how I see it:If a strong nen user could just power up and become insanely powerful at the cost of their nen, then why wouldnt they all do it? first, it is said from basically the very beginning that Gon and Killua are extremely exceptional, Hisoka notes the potential in Gon from the get go and Wing says that Gon and Killua are one in ten million in terms of pure raw nen talent, so no, I don't think any hunter would be able to do that even if it is a life and death situation second, it is said a few times that nen pacts are stronger when they are specific and that they require a lot of personal emotional investment to make, Kurapika was able to make a nen pact to fight against The Phantom Troupe because he had a strong and deeply personal emotional reason for it, Gon was able to sacrifice everything to fight Pitou because he had a deep emotional connection with Kite (which is not made that clear in the 2011 anime), so even though Netero is arguably a one in ten million in terms of nen ability and his fight with Meruem was a life and death situation, he did not have a deep personal connection with Meruem or anyone specific in the Chimera Ant arc third, Gon is fucking nuts, he has always been, for example, Killua satisfies the conditions above if Alluka was killed: he's an extremely exceptional nen user and has a deep emotional connection with her, but given his personality I don't think he would ever lose himself to anger and just sacrifice literally everything to avenge her, of course Killua would try his damn best, but that wouldn't include (almost) killing himself fourth, narrative reasons, it makes sense that if that was to happen, it was going to happen to one of the protagonists, Togashi wanted it to happen and Gon is the best protagonist for the job, we are not going to see anything like that from Kurapika for example i aint reading all that lil bro |
ScionOfCyan said: I agree broadly. Everything involving “Gon’s revenge against Pitou” is the worst material of HxH. Gon’s character loses self-consistency in personality, personal philosophy, even aesthetic completely changes. He essentially becomes a completely different character in a split second because he lost somebody he barely knew. It’s a wild sequence. This whole portion is the epitome of Togashi understanding human personality and behavior poorly. Togashi is still GOATed tho, HxH is a class shounen. lol   there's also the comment made by Morel saying how Gon's waiting for an enemy to unleash all of his power at once on a worthy enemy ScionOfCyan said: He essentially becomes a completely different character in a split second because he lost somebody he barely knew. I hate the 2011 anime for doing this, in the manga, kite is the one who tells Gon that his dad is alive, he's the reason why he sets out to be a hunter. Gon doesn't forget about Kite. Gon being as mentally unstable as he is, sacrificing his life to kill Pitou because he feels guilt about Kite's death is understandable. |
ScionOfCyan said: not_Tserriednich said: lol there's also the comment made by Morel saying how Gon's waiting for an enemy to unleash all of his power at once on a worthy enemy I hate the 2011 anime for doing this, in the manga, kite is the one who tells Gon that his dad is alive, he's the reason why he sets out to be a hunter. Gon doesn't forget about Kite. Gon being as mentally unstable as he is, sacrificing his life to kill Pitou because he feels guilt about Kite's death is understandable. I should maybe edit that post for people who arrive in the future. You’re the third person who replied with a carefully sourced explanation of how I got the wrong impression of the story because of the 2011 anime’s carelessness on this topic. Gon’s construction does have significant issues but I have to be much more precise in how I describe them in order to explain it properly. What I said at first is totally wrong. As expected of HxH fans, I got a lot of constructive criticism with direct citations of the source material. Yeah sorry, saw this on my feed and replied without checking the other comments. |
| The arc is fantastic. But true you have a good point LOL, never thought about it that way |
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| there are flaws in this shit ever since episode 1, nothing surprises me about this garbage, I just watch it to finish it |
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