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Aug 20, 2022 1:59 PM
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Do you know why Dragon Ball Super isn't listed as a sequel of Dragon Ball Z on MAL ? I think it should be, maybe even more than DBGT which does not follow Toriyama's manga, but maybe I'm missing something and a reason it's only listed as a "side story" here
Aug 20, 2022 2:02 PM
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That's because it takes place before the final arc.
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Aug 20, 2022 2:06 PM
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Because it's an alternative storyline in Dragon Ball Z before the final arc not a continuation to the story.
Aug 20, 2022 2:10 PM
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Yeah you're right I almost forgot about this little arc at the end, guess it's fair enough to put it as a "side story" even if it can be a little confusing (this final arc apart it is the main sequel)
Aug 20, 2022 2:21 PM
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Because DBZ's ending took place years after the events of Dragon Ball Super. It makes sense to call it a side story really.
Aug 20, 2022 6:55 PM
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Mensualite said:
Do you know why Dragon Ball Super isn't listed as a sequel of Dragon Ball Z on MAL ? I think it should be, maybe even more than DBGT which does not follow Toriyama's manga, but maybe I'm missing something and a reason it's only listed as a "side story" here

Because the sequel to Z is GT. Super is its own thing, thank god it is, super follows another timeline where goku is less goku, retcons Z , retcons GT, and goes further than the aforementioned with less than desirable execution.

Super isn’t a sequel mainly because A.T stopped working with the series back in 1996.
(Or at least tried to)

Please refer to Totallynotmark’s video “the day dragonball died” for more in depth reasonings.

You’re not gonna find it here
Aug 20, 2022 11:30 PM
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You’ll do anything to make super non cannon ๐Ÿ’€
Aug 20, 2022 11:51 PM
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RequiemLo64 said:
Mensualite said:
Do you know why Dragon Ball Super isn't listed as a sequel of Dragon Ball Z on MAL ? I think it should be, maybe even more than DBGT which does not follow Toriyama's manga, but maybe I'm missing something and a reason it's only listed as a "side story" here

Because the sequel to Z is GT. Super is its own thing, thank god it is, super follows another timeline where goku is less goku, retcons Z , retcons GT, and goes further than the aforementioned with less than desirable execution.

Super isn’t a sequel mainly because A.T stopped working with the series back in 1996.
(Or at least tried to)

Please refer to Totallynotmark’s video “the day dragonball died” for more in depth reasonings.

You’re not gonna find it here

Probably super is more a sequel than gt. gt literally has been made from toei animation and Akira toryama didn't to anything. and it's also pretty bad.
Aug 20, 2022 11:53 PM
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RequiemLo64 said:
Mensualite said:
Do you know why Dragon Ball Super isn't listed as a sequel of Dragon Ball Z on MAL ? I think it should be, maybe even more than DBGT which does not follow Toriyama's manga, but maybe I'm missing something and a reason it's only listed as a "side story" here

Because the sequel to Z is GT. Super is its own thing, thank god it is, super follows another timeline where goku is less goku, retcons Z , retcons GT, and goes further than the aforementioned with less than desirable execution.

Super isn’t a sequel mainly because A.T stopped working with the series back in 1996.
(Or at least tried to)

Please refer to Totallynotmark’s video “the day dragonball died” for more in depth reasonings.

You’re not gonna find it here

Super is the actual sequel bruh. GT was a full filler series. Akira didn't even wrote it's storyline
Aug 20, 2022 11:54 PM
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Mensualite said:
Do you know why Dragon Ball Super isn't listed as a sequel of Dragon Ball Z on MAL ? I think it should be, maybe even more than DBGT which does not follow Toriyama's manga, but maybe I'm missing something and a reason it's only listed as a "side story" here

Well super takes place after Buu arc. That's why maybe but ya Super is the actual sequel of DBZ. DBGT is a filler series, author didn't contributed in its storyline at all
Aug 21, 2022 12:03 AM
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Apratim said:
RequiemLo64 said:

Because the sequel to Z is GT. Super is its own thing, thank god it is, super follows another timeline where goku is less goku, retcons Z , retcons GT, and goes further than the aforementioned with less than desirable execution.

Super isn’t a sequel mainly because A.T stopped working with the series back in 1996.
(Or at least tried to)

Please refer to Totallynotmark’s video “the day dragonball died” for more in depth reasonings.

You’re not gonna find it here

Super is the actual sequel bruh. GT was a full filler series. Akira didn't even wrote it's storyline
no GT is, it literally picks up from Z, Super picks up from kid buu’s defeat and goes a completely different direction to promote movies, be its own thing, promote movies, then decide to be it’s own thing and commit to it.

GT is controversial but it is an actual sequel, just someone else directing it since toriyama decided to step down during its production, the same cant be said for super since toriyama was involved with the movies and nothing anime related.
Aug 21, 2022 12:21 AM
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Gerry500 said:
RequiemLo64 said:

Because the sequel to Z is GT. Super is its own thing, thank god it is, super follows another timeline where goku is less goku, retcons Z , retcons GT, and goes further than the aforementioned with less than desirable execution.

Super isn’t a sequel mainly because A.T stopped working with the series back in 1996.
(Or at least tried to)

Please refer to Totallynotmark’s video “the day dragonball died” for more in depth reasonings.

You’re not gonna find it here

Probably super is more a sequel than gt. gt literally has been made from toei animation and Akira toryama didn't to anything. and it's also pretty bad.
just because toei green lights it doesn’t mean its a sequel, super wasn’t handled by toriyama outside the movies, so your point kinda dies there.

Sequels aren’t what if stories, super retcons both Dragonball Z and Dragonball GT and goes in a completely different direction, which again can be explained in a video called “the day dragonball died”, toei took a gamble with super and somehow it worked but that doesn’t make it a sequel.

Id rather have Dragonball GT over super tbh, super entertains don’t get me wrong, however, it takes more than entertaining for a series to be a sequel or good, which super is not the best Dragonball has to offer but if we get to see goku and co. again who gives a fuck.

Notice how I haven’t said Dragonball super, because THIS IS NOT DRAGONBALL, it has the foundation Dragonball has built over the years but it builds something different and modern, Dragonball, Dragonball Z and Dragonball GT were all great and super had a chance to be great but chose to be something else……
WHICH IS WHY SUPER IS NOT A SEQUEL.
Aug 21, 2022 5:09 AM
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More than a sequel, I see dbs as a alternate universe. The events happen before the end of Z and most likely it’ll retcon many things that Z did (most importantly the ending of Z). So it’s better to think of it as a alternate universe.

GT in the other hand does pick up after the end of Z and expands on what the end of Z was working on. It’s problem? It’s non canon. Toriyama himself though has stated that you can see GT as a different timeline as well, all in all.. DB has no real sequels, but only alternative timelines.


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Aug 21, 2022 11:57 AM
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All these people saying Super is from some different timeline are completely wrong. Technically Super follows after Z and has not reached the GT timeline as of yet. They can all be counted as canon until Super surpasses GT.
Also Super has a Manga so thats more proof to be the actual Canon story.
Aug 21, 2022 11:58 AM
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King_common said:
You’ll do anything to make super non cannon ๐Ÿ’€

Dummies. That's all they are. This thread is full of em.
Aug 21, 2022 12:00 PM
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RequiemLo64 said:
Apratim said:

Super is the actual sequel bruh. GT was a full filler series. Akira didn't even wrote it's storyline
no GT is, it literally picks up from Z, Super picks up from kid buu’s defeat and goes a completely different direction to promote movies, be its own thing, promote movies, then decide to be it’s own thing and commit to it.

GT is controversial but it is an actual sequel, just someone else directing it since toriyama decided to step down during its production, the same cant be said for super since toriyama was involved with the movies and nothing anime related.

He was involved with the Manga which the anime is based on sooooo I'd say he has part in it. Just doesn't want to spend his life drawing it anymore.
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trulymystique said:
Because it's an alternative storyline in Dragon Ball Z before the final arc not a continuation to the story.

Why just make stuff up? No one here can link an official statement saying super is an alternate timeline.
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DayRivia said:
trulymystique said:
Because it's an alternative storyline in Dragon Ball Z before the final arc not a continuation to the story.

Why just make stuff up? No one here can link an official statement saying super is an alternate timeline.


If you have seen Dragon Ball Z and also some of Dragon Ball Super you could clearly tell dbs isn't a sequel. I can't say if it's the new main story of not but it's not a sequel to dbz I'm not making anything up.
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trulymystique said:
DayRivia said:

Why just make stuff up? No one here can link an official statement saying super is an alternate timeline.


If you have seen Dragon Ball Z and also some of Dragon Ball Super you could clearly tell dbs isn't a sequel. I can't say if it's the new main story of not but it's not a sequel to dbz I'm not making anything up.
Did you not Watch Super? ITA CLEARLY PICKING UP POST BUU SAGA. I'm theory leading up to the point at the very end of Z. I've never heard this even debated until today.
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DayRivia said:
trulymystique said:


If you have seen Dragon Ball Z and also some of Dragon Ball Super you could clearly tell dbs isn't a sequel. I can't say if it's the new main story of not but it's not a sequel to dbz I'm not making anything up.
Did you not Watch Super? ITA CLEARLY PICKING UP POST BUU SAGA. I'm theory leading up to the point at the very end of Z. I've never heard this even debated until today.
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DayRivia said:
trulymystique said:


If you have seen Dragon Ball Z and also some of Dragon Ball Super you could clearly tell dbs isn't a sequel. I can't say if it's the new main story of not but it's not a sequel to dbz I'm not making anything up.
Did you not Watch Super? ITA CLEARLY PICKING UP POST BUU SAGA. I'm theory leading up to the point at the very end of Z. I've never heard this even debated until today.

The Ending of Dragon Ball Z and the the start of Dragon Ball Super are clearly different storylines bro
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DayRivia said:
trulymystique said:


If you have seen Dragon Ball Z and also some of Dragon Ball Super you could clearly tell dbs isn't a sequel. I can't say if it's the new main story of not but it's not a sequel to dbz I'm not making anything up.
Did you not Watch Super? ITA CLEARLY PICKING UP POST BUU SAGA. I'm theory leading up to the point at the very end of Z. I've never heard this even debated until today.

Also , if Dragon Ball Super was a sequel to the Ending of Dragon Ball Z we would see Uub or hear a mention of him
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DayRivia said:
RequiemLo64 said:
no GT is, it literally picks up from Z, Super picks up from kid buu’s defeat and goes a completely different direction to promote movies, be its own thing, promote movies, then decide to be it’s own thing and commit to it.

GT is controversial but it is an actual sequel, just someone else directing it since toriyama decided to step down during its production, the same cant be said for super since toriyama was involved with the movies and nothing anime related.

He was involved with the Manga which the anime is based on sooooo I'd say he has part in it. Just doesn't want to spend his life drawing it anymore.
thats the funny funny part, last i checked the anime finished right as that one goat guy’s arc started or even a little beforehand so feel free to try again or don’t, i’ll be here .
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trulymystique said:
DayRivia said:
Did you not Watch Super? ITA CLEARLY PICKING UP POST BUU SAGA. I'm theory leading up to the point at the very end of Z. I've never heard this even debated until today.

Also , if Dragon Ball Super was a sequel to the Ending of Dragon Ball Z we would see Uub or hear a mention of him

Uub was mentioned in Super. Referenced to how he is still a small child and not ready to be trained. I'm pretty sure he is shown at some point when they were showing characters around earth. Can't remember what arc.
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RequiemLo64 said:
DayRivia said:

He was involved with the Manga which the anime is based on sooooo I'd say he has part in it. Just doesn't want to spend his life drawing it anymore.
thats the funny funny part, last i checked the anime finished right as that one goat guy’s arc started or even a little beforehand so feel free to try again or don’t, i’ll be here .

idk what you're even talking about now. Super picks up right after the buu Saga. That's not debatable.
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DayRivia said:
RequiemLo64 said:
thats the funny funny part, last i checked the anime finished right as that one goat guy’s arc started or even a little beforehand so feel free to try again or don’t, i’ll be here .

idk what you're even talking about now. Super picks up right after the buu Saga. That's not debatable.
if you don't even know what i’m talking about then you’re right this isn’t a debate, super is not a sequel, bro what school you go to, what dictionary at your local library backs up your claim? You realize where buu saga ends right? Super continues right after the fight with buu and retcons Z and GT and goes in its own direction.

If you think this is a sequel to anything Dragonball then you buggin hard my guy.
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Because it is not a sequel but a side story taking place in the 10 year timeskip. The only sequel Dragon Ball has so far is GT. And it has Father of Goku as a prequel.

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