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Raff-Kun said:
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[spoiler/inabean62 though]
But she false. She love Hachiman because
https://www.reddit.com/r/OreGairuSNAFU/comments/gxh44z/why_do_people_not_like_yuigahama/

can you describe it? my web cant open it


Sorry too long,& this is contain spoiler for entire season 3 (and LN up to Volume 12). This is from Reddit user with username Inabean62, so thanks to him:
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playerSire said:
She is Yukinoshita. That's what's good about her.

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Yuu_Kanzaki said:
Yuigahama Yui is the best girl of the show (jokingly Totsuka ranks 1st). She is cute, has great attitudes, is kind toward Hikigaya, listens to his problem, willingly helps him, scolds him when he's in the wrong, and wants to be friends with almost everyone including Sagami. She just wants everyone to get along.

What's good about Yukinoshita, hm?

But Hikigaya had already fallen for her ever since the beginning, so resistance is futile. Go read the Yui novel or something.

filimaua13 said:
She's a yes girl for Hachiman just to keep him in her corner so that she doesn't come off as unlikable, despite knowing that what he does is wrong and mentally and emotionally unhealthy.

Lol, as a former Oregairu enthusiast and source material reader, I can not approve of this fanfiction. Have you read/watched the 7-8th novels or Ep3-6, since everything afterwards was just the stalling device for the author whilst he was doing nothing?

callmenoan said:
yui never let hachiman see her vulnerable side and she always had her facade put up.

Since I'm blinded, here is MAL's character description:
Yui is a cheerful, outgoing girl who becomes the Service Club's first "customer," asking them to help her bake cookies for "a certain someone." Her problems lie not with her personality, but with her inability to deal with issues by herself. She believes that talent is inborn, and often aspired to be like others until Yukino changed her way of thinking. Following her experience with the Service Club, Yui begins to attend Service Club sessions after school as well, despite Yukino's objections early on.

Also, do I have to mention her cat story in the 2nd novel, since the adaptation omitted it?

filimaua13 said:
She wasn't willing to talk to him a few times in the story cos of how she would look in front of the Hayama clique talking to a loner.

She changed her initial approach out of consideration, didn't she? Like since the 5th novel or something? Also, her reaction towards Sagami in the 5th seems off, since their relationship had been estranged, but it was still respectful towards others.

Yui wasn't a nice girl.

Why wasn't she a nice girl? There is an old saying of Maryl Streep in Into The Woods that "You're not good, you're not bad, you're just nice."

She didn't want something genuine, something her supposed beloved Hachiman wanted. All because she knew for a fact Hachiman had feelings for Yukino and not her. In season 3, she intentionally butts in with almost every alone time Hachiman has with Yukino.

Sorry for quoting you so many times, due to my laziness on the previous day, but it's fucking funny that you said she didn't want something genuine. She was put off like since the end of the 5th volume, and the Hachi freaking Hikigaya didn't give her any chance to express herself, so despite knowing it, she still wanted a proper answer. If Yukinoshita had taken her solution, she would confess, make their relationship clear, and hence, act accordingly. Everything could still be achieved that way, and that's what she wanted.

So, who was the superficial jerk is a matter to discuss. The guy that thought some girls liked him only with occasional exchanges of messages? Or the guy didn't act, but still held expectation of someone saying something genuine to him? It seems like past experiences had nothing to do with him, after all, and when that something eventually came on screen, the show was nearly over. Therefore, I couldn't call it decent 'character development'.
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SH_HEL said:
Yuu_Kanzaki said:
Yuigahama Yui is the best girl of the show (jokingly Totsuka ranks 1st). She is cute, has great attitudes, is kind toward Hikigaya, listens to his problem, willingly helps him, scolds him when he's in the wrong, and wants to be friends with almost everyone including Sagami. She just wants everyone to get along.

What's good about Yukinoshita, hm?
watch the anime again there you will find hachimans monologue on nice girls and as yukinoshita is a better in every thing if we compare her to yui, she doesn't tries to a fake person just to get a man, loves hachiman for who he is, and more importantly both of them are introverts & i am also a introvert

( Btw sensie is the best girl )
I don't see how Yukinoshita likes Hachiman for who he is, as she's the one who really wanted to make Hachiman to be a 'better' person. Though I do agree that she does show her affection in her own way; one I don't see how someone sees it as being understanding.
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Yuu_Kanzaki said:
SH_HEL said:
watch the anime again there you will find hachimans monologue on nice girls and as yukinoshita is a better in every thing if we compare her to yui, she doesn't tries to a fake person just to get a man, loves hachiman for who he is, and more importantly both of them are introverts & i am also a introvert

( Btw sensie is the best girl )
I don't see how Yukinoshita likes Hachiman for who he is, as she's the one who really wanted to make Hachiman to be a 'better' person. Though I do agree that she does show her affection in her own way; one I don't see how someone sees it as being understanding.
she likes hachiman for who he is and thats why she wants to make him a better person as we all know how hachiman was in the starting of the series. Yukino doesn't acts like a fake nice person in front of him they both are very similar and understand each other thats why they are perfect for each other, idk if i explained it properly of not in short yukino actually sees hachiman as a hachiman and has geniune feeling towards him while as for yui i can't think of any reason of why she loves hachiman so much
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filimaua13 said:
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yeah yui certainly was like that based on your biased headcanon. not sure why i expected a modicum of intelligence from an oregairu fan


Sure man. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself 👌
a response expected of an oregairu fan kek
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yahalost........
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filimaua13 said:
What does Yukino have?

She's kind, selfless and hard working. Her ice queen persona comes from a hardened resolve to prove herself to herself and her family. Despite being so blunt and rude in the beginning, she's only capable of doing that with strangers. With people she comes to love and be close with, she's weak and indecisive.

Yukino called out Hachiman's BS hypocrasy and self destructive methods for majority of season 2, something Yui was willing to ignore just to appear more likable to her "beloved" Hachiman. Yukino is the one who calls out Hachiman when he's out of line. You need someone like that in relationships. Someone who's able to speak their mind when you're doing something wrong.

Yukino was willing to give up her feelings for Hachiman, to make Yui happy. She cared about Hachiman and Yui, and wanted nothing but the best for them. Yukino sure has her flaws with her stubbornness and weak indecisive nature, but she's a good girl who cares about her friends and has the best of intentions for them.

A fellow Yukino fan/supporter 👏👏👏
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mans comparing a deredere to tsundere

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people seem to forget that hachiman wanted a genuine relationship. yui never let hachiman see her vulnerable side and she always had her facade put up. yukino was always genuine because of her bluntness. yui was never going to win in that regard it’s pretty simple.
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We all know Iroha best girl
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Yuu_Kanzaki said:
Yuigahama Yui is the best girl of the show (jokingly Totsuka ranks 1st). She is cute, has great attitudes, is kind toward Hikigaya, listens to his problem, willingly helps him, scolds him when he's in the wrong, and wants to be friends with almost everyone including Sagami. She just wants everyone to get along.

What's good about Yukinoshita, hm?

Which Yukinoshita are we talking about?
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Yuu_Kanzaki said:
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thats every rejected girl in a nutshell
Accurate but it's just weird how the one girl that loves the guy the most, loses. Take for example, Nisekoi.

my friend would say it's reality
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she is realistic
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ven999s said:
Yuu_Kanzaki said:
Yuigahama Yui is the best girl of the show (jokingly Totsuka ranks 1st). She is cute, has great attitudes, is kind toward Hikigaya, listens to his problem, willingly helps him, scolds him when he's in the wrong, and wants to be friends with almost everyone including Sagami. She just wants everyone to get along.

What's good about Yukinoshita, hm?

LN Readers: I'm your sure about that?


LN readers knows who Yui truly is as a person. The anime only screwed over it to favor one.




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filimaua13 said:
Yui wasn't a nice girl. That's the point. Hachiman's perception of both girls from the beginning turned out to be wrong.

He believed Yukino to be a strong girl in the beginning, until her true side comes out. Yui wasn't a nice girl. She's greedy, selfish and manipulates for her own self interest. Did you completely miss the fact in the S2 finale where she openly tried to emotionally manipulate Yukino (her supposed best friend) to give up her feelings for Hachiman so she herself could get what she wants?

She wasn't willing to talk to him a few times in the story cos of how she would look in front of the Hayama clique talking to a loner. She's a yes girl for Hachiman just to keep him in her corner so that she doesn't come off as unlikable, despite knowing that what he does is wrong and mentally and emotionally unhealthy.

She didn't want something genuine, something her supposed beloved Hachiman wanted. All because she knew for a fact Hachiman had feelings for Yukino and not her. In season 3, she intentionally butts in with almost every alone time Hachiman has with Yukino.

Doesn't sound like a good loving "nice girl" to me. These are all heavily highlighted in the light novels which the anime (mainly season 2/3) brushed over or ignored just to give Yui and Yui fans the illusion of having a chance.


Agreed. Some people needs to read and watch rather than fulfilling their freaking desires.




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filimaua13 said:
Yui wasn't a nice girl. That's the point. Hachiman's perception of both girls from the beginning turned out to be wrong.

He believed Yukino to be a strong girl in the beginning, until her true side comes out. Yui wasn't a nice girl. She's greedy, selfish and manipulates for her own self interest. Did you completely miss the fact in the S2 finale where she openly tried to emotionally manipulate Yukino (her supposed best friend) to give up her feelings for Hachiman so she herself could get what she wants?

She wasn't willing to talk to him a few times in the story cos of how she would look in front of the Hayama clique talking to a loner. She's a yes girl for Hachiman just to keep him in her corner so that she doesn't come off as unlikable, despite knowing that what he does is wrong and mentally and emotionally unhealthy.

She didn't want something genuine, something her supposed beloved Hachiman wanted. All because she knew for a fact Hachiman had feelings for Yukino and not her. In season 3, she intentionally butts in with almost every alone time Hachiman has with Yukino.

Doesn't sound like a good loving "nice girl" to me. These are all heavily highlighted in the light novels which the anime (mainly season 2/3) brushed over or ignored just to give Yui and Yui fans the illusion of having a chance.

you spoke NOTHING but the truth amigo.
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offcrack said:
filimaua13 said:
What does Yukino have?

She's kind, selfless and hard working. Her ice queen persona comes from a hardened resolve to prove herself to herself and her family. Despite being so blunt and rude in the beginning, she's only capable of doing that with strangers. With people she comes to love and be close with, she's weak and indecisive.

Yukino called out Hachiman's BS hypocrasy and self destructive methods for majority of season 2, something Yui was willing to ignore just to appear more likable to her "beloved" Hachiman. Yukino is the one who calls out Hachiman when he's out of line. You need someone like that in relationships. Someone who's able to speak their mind when you're doing something wrong.

Yukino was willing to give up her feelings for Hachiman, to make Yui happy. She cared about Hachiman and Yui, and wanted nothing but the best for them. Yukino sure has her flaws with her stubbornness and weak indecisive nature, but she's a good girl who cares about her friends and has the best of intentions for them.

Stop writing fanfiction about the characters schizo

i mean,how delusional can you be to not notuce these things in the story???
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filimaua13 said:
What does Yukino have?

She's kind, selfless and hard working. Her ice queen persona comes from a hardened resolve to prove herself to herself and her family. Despite being so blunt and rude in the beginning, she's only capable of doing that with strangers. With people she comes to love and be close with, she's weak and indecisive.

Yukino called out Hachiman's BS hypocrasy and self destructive methods for majority of season 2, something Yui was willing to ignore just to appear more likable to her "beloved" Hachiman. Yukino is the one who calls out Hachiman when he's out of line. You need someone like that in relationships. Someone who's able to speak their mind when you're doing something wrong.

Yukino was willing to give up her feelings for Hachiman, to make Yui happy. She cared about Hachiman and Yui, and wanted nothing but the best for them. Yukino sure has her flaws with her stubbornness and weak indecisive nature, but she's a good girl who cares about her friends and has the best of intentions for them.

right from the tip of my tongue,i was actually going to say that.
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offcrack said:
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Sure man. Whatever makes you feel better about yourself 👌
a response expected of an oregairu fan kek

i mean,what does any of this have to do with being an oregairu fan???you basically couldn't come with a better argument to counter his point so you jusr shit on him and on the fan base,can you stop???you're just humiliating you self.
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Yuu_Kanzaki said:
IbrahimQ said:

thats every rejected girl in a nutshell
Accurate but it's just weird how the one girl that loves the guy the most, loses. Take for example, Nisekoi.

more like,she just had a crush on him cuz he saved he dog,that's basically it.
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Wolf_Dragon said:
offcrack said:
a response expected of an oregairu fan kek

i mean,what does any of this have to do with being an oregairu fan???you basically couldn't come with a better argument to counter his point so you jusr shit on him and on the fan base,can you stop???you're just humiliating you self.
you dumb ESL motherfucker he didn't provide a single argument against what I said except his headcanon about what a character must have "truly" felt which was stated nowhere in the LN nor the anime
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offcrack said:
Wolf_Dragon said:

i mean,what does any of this have to do with being an oregairu fan???you basically couldn't come with a better argument to counter his point so you jusr shit on him and on the fan base,can you stop???you're just humiliating you self.
you dumb ESL motherfucker he didn't provide a single argument against what I said except his headcanon about what a character must have "truly" felt which was stated nowhere in the LN nor the anime

Why so angry???dude chill out,it's just an argument about a fictional character,as i said earlier you're embarrassing yourself,it's not a headcanon,it's just that in this story you need to read between the lines to understand things that're left unexplained but have been hinted out on multiple occasions,you just need to focus on it with an open mind not a closed one and try to catch the real hidden meaning before jumping into conclusions.
+wym by ESL???
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Wolf_Dragon said:
offcrack said:
you dumb ESL motherfucker he didn't provide a single argument against what I said except his headcanon about what a character must have "truly" felt which was stated nowhere in the LN nor the anime

Why so angry???dude chill out,it's just an argument about a fictional character,as i said earlier you're embarrassing yourself,it's not a headcanon,it's just that in this story you need to read between the lines to understand things that're left unexplained but have been hinted out on multiple occasions,you just need to focus on it with an open mind not a closed one and try to catch the real hidden meaning before jumping into conclusions.
+wym by ESL???
you don't even understand the language you're trying to communicate in yet speak about reading between the lines kek dumbass
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offcrack said:
Wolf_Dragon said:

Why so angry???dude chill out,it's just an argument about a fictional character,as i said earlier you're embarrassing yourself,it's not a headcanon,it's just that in this story you need to read between the lines to understand things that're left unexplained but have been hinted out on multiple occasions,you just need to focus on it with an open mind not a closed one and try to catch the real hidden meaning before jumping into conclusions.
+wym by ESL???
you don't even understand the language you're trying to communicate in yet speak about reading between the lines kek dumbass

How pathetic,did you really just tried to iritate me cuz i asked you about some random af letters you put there???go to your room kid,this isn't the right place for you.
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You have to distinguish Yui from the LN and the anime. In the original, she was a pretty bad person. She knew that Hachiman was in love with Yukino and had already made up her mind. She also knew that he has a social disorder and could never give her a straight rejection. Yet she forced herself on him.

Besides, Yukino loves Hachiman for who he really is. I always had the feeling Yui was thinking: deep down, Hachiman is a good guy, I just need to help him a little and he would be perfect for me.
She was never able to communicate with the original Hachiman and when one of them has to change to make the relationship work, there is always a problem sooner or later.
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nothing is good about yukinoshita
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Yuu_Kanzaki said:
Yuigahama Yui is the best girl of the show (jokingly Totsuka ranks 1st). She is cute, has great attitudes, is kind toward Hikigaya, listens to his problem, willingly helps him, scolds him when he's in the wrong, and wants to be friends with almost everyone including Sagami. She just wants everyone to get along.

What's good about Yukinoshita, hm?

Speedwatcher moment
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totsuka saika is the best girl
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Yuu_Kanzaki said:
Yuigahama Yui is the best girl of the show (jokingly Totsuka ranks 1st). She is cute, has great attitudes, is kind toward Hikigaya, listens to his problem, willingly helps him, scolds him when he's in the wrong, and wants to be friends with almost everyone including Sagami. She just wants everyone to get along.

What's good about Yukinoshita, hm?

Haruno is the best girl in the show.
She is the smartest of all the girls in the show. She is fun and mysterious and full of surprises. Actually, Haruno has more more character development in the few episodes she was on than Yuki and yui combined.
Haruno can understand hikigaya like no one else can. She can also read society like he does.
Haruno was the only one who never tried to change hikigaya. She excepted him for who he was from the start. She was also the only one to ever compliment him.
The only time she was upset with him was when he gave up on his real personality.
Let's not forget she is also the prettiest one of them all.

With all of that being said, Haruno is also the most dangerous girl in the show.
She likes to play with the world and with boys specifically.
girls like her are the reason that hikigaya became the lonely ass introverted he is.
(I would know, I'm much of hikigaya myself.)
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filimaua13 said:
Yui wasn't a nice girl. That's the point. Hachiman's perception of both girls from the beginning turned out to be wrong.

He believed Yukino to be a strong girl in the beginning, until her true side comes out. Yui wasn't a nice girl. She's greedy, selfish and manipulates for her own self interest. Did you completely miss the fact in the S2 finale where she openly tried to emotionally manipulate Yukino (her supposed best friend) to give up her feelings for Hachiman so she herself could get what she wants?

She wasn't willing to talk to him a few times in the story cos of how she would look in front of the Hayama clique talking to a loner. She's a yes girl for Hachiman just to keep him in her corner so that she doesn't come off as unlikable, despite knowing that what he does is wrong and mentally and emotionally unhealthy.

She didn't want something genuine, something her supposed beloved Hachiman wanted. All because she knew for a fact Hachiman had feelings for Yukino and not her. In season 3, she intentionally butts in with almost every alone time Hachiman has with Yukino.

Doesn't sound like a good loving "nice girl" to me. These are all heavily highlighted in the light novels which the anime (mainly season 2/3) brushed over or ignored just to give Yui and Yui fans the illusion of having a chance.

well we don't care. because Yui was nice to *him*. I wish I could say the same about Yuki.
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offcrack said:
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Your bias is showing. You clearly just hate Yukino. Yui may have said some words of disapproval but she really didn't mind as long as Hachiman liked her. If she truly cared about Hachiman, she would have had the same strong will against his actions as Yukino but she didn't.

Just stop being petty over Yukino winning Hachiman's heart. Sorry Yui but you just weren't good enough. Its just how it is.
cope, I hate both of them. Not only are you backpedalling now, you're also inserting your headcanon about how yui "didn't really mind" which you're pulling out of your ass, as well as measuring their feelings through that same headcanon? Are you sure I'm the one who's biased here dumbo

who is your best girl bro?
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filimaua13 said:
Yui wasn't a nice girl. That's the point. Hachiman's perception of both girls from the beginning turned out to be wrong.

He believed Yukino to be a strong girl in the beginning, until her true side comes out. Yui wasn't a nice girl. She's greedy, selfish and manipulates for her own self interest. Did you completely miss the fact in the S2 finale where she openly tried to emotionally manipulate Yukino (her supposed best friend) to give up her feelings for Hachiman so she herself could get what she wants?

She wasn't willing to talk to him a few times in the story cos of how she would look in front of the Hayama clique talking to a loner. She's a yes girl for Hachiman just to keep him in her corner so that she doesn't come off as unlikable, despite knowing that what he does is wrong and mentally and emotionally unhealthy.

She didn't want something genuine, something her supposed beloved Hachiman wanted. All because she knew for a fact Hachiman had feelings for Yukino and not her. In season 3, she intentionally butts in with almost every alone time Hachiman has with Yukino.

Doesn't sound like a good loving "nice girl" to me. These are all heavily highlighted in the light novels which the anime (mainly season 2/3) brushed over or ignored just to give Yui and Yui fans the illusion of having a chance.

well we don't care. because Yui was nice to *him*. I wish I could say the same about Yuki.


Hachiman enjoyed the sassy talk and witty banter. Can't say the same for him being comfortable with Yui's "kindness."

He was smitten hard, and Yukino became gentler and more flirty with Hachiman. Soo.. you must be blind if you think Yukino was never nice to Hachiman.
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well we don't care. because Yui was nice to *him*. I wish I could say the same about Yuki.


Hachiman enjoyed the sassy talk and witty banter. Can't say the same for him being comfortable with Yui's "kindness."

He was smitten hard, and Yukino became gentler and more flirty with Hachiman. Soo.. you must be blind if you think Yukino was never nice to Hachiman.
she is just cold she didn't mean to be nice to him. Yui is absolutely nicer. I don't even understand how could you say something else.
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avishayvazan said:
filimaua13 said:
Yui wasn't a nice girl. That's the point. Hachiman's perception of both girls from the beginning turned out to be wrong.

He believed Yukino to be a strong girl in the beginning, until her true side comes out. Yui wasn't a nice girl. She's greedy, selfish and manipulates for her own self interest. Did you completely miss the fact in the S2 finale where she openly tried to emotionally manipulate Yukino (her supposed best friend) to give up her feelings for Hachiman so she herself could get what she wants?

She wasn't willing to talk to him a few times in the story cos of how she would look in front of the Hayama clique talking to a loner. She's a yes girl for Hachiman just to keep him in her corner so that she doesn't come off as unlikable, despite knowing that what he does is wrong and mentally and emotionally unhealthy.

She didn't want something genuine, something her supposed beloved Hachiman wanted. All because she knew for a fact Hachiman had feelings for Yukino and not her. In season 3, she intentionally butts in with almost every alone time Hachiman has with Yukino.

Doesn't sound like a good loving "nice girl" to me. These are all heavily highlighted in the light novels which the anime (mainly season 2/3) brushed over or ignored just to give Yui and Yui fans the illusion of having a chance.

well we don't care. because Yui was nice to *him*. I wish I could say the same about Yuki.

what???so you're just gonna disregard everything else that she ever done just because she was "nice" to him???......and you don't see any priblem with that sentence???
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avishayvazan said:
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cope, I hate both of them. Not only are you backpedalling now, you're also inserting your headcanon about how yui "didn't really mind" which you're pulling out of your ass, as well as measuring their feelings through that same headcanon? Are you sure I'm the one who's biased here dumbo

who is your best girl bro?
having to pick one from the series it'd be komachi but I have little positive to say about any of the characters in this show as a whole
yukinoshit is just the worst offender of them all
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watch season 1 ep 1 before yui show up,then watch yukino and hachiman when just the two of them,yukino is great,ppl like yui because she is the basic "genki girl" that most ppl love,while yukino is the opposite.

yukino is what every WEEB/OTAKU hate,because yukino will tell them to touch grass and get off of their fantasy and try to be better in life and teach them how to do it,the results? they hate yukino for it.

yui on the other side will praise and say its ok to be a dumb delusional otaku/weeb,dont even try to actually "change" ppl to be better,the results? weeb/otaku LOVE YUI.

thats why if hachiman with yui,he will never be a better person which is a bad thing,and hachiman knew this,thats why he choose the "genuine" one,yukino.

TLDR yukino is the "GENUINE/HONEST" girl that will roast you but change for the better,while yui will praised and shower you with sweet words but you will always become trash like hachiman in the start of series.now get it?
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