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Mar 22, 2022 10:45 AM
#101
| There was no peaceful resolution for the conflict, thats the whole reasoning behind erens actions, he didn't want revenge, he wanted freedom and safety for his friends, he didnt do it for funsies, he concluded that it must be done and must be done by him, hes conclusion makes perfect sense given his personality and circumstances, he isnt a violent crazy murderer, we can dissect every decision and action he made and find a reasonable argument on why it was done,and rarely is it blind hatred or simple revenge, mikasa and eren were both driven to do what they did, eren took a more active role in his decision making, he created his path, while mikasa followed the hurd, but both did what had to be done EmmyMoomin said: There was no peaceful resolution for the conflict, thats the whole reasoning behind erens actions, he didn't want revenge, he wanted freedom and safety for his friends, he didnt do it for funsies, he concluded that it must be done and must be done by him, hes conclusion theOG_hope said: I’m not saying genocide is wrong. Where’d you get that idea from? My favourite character in all of animanga commits genocide and I agree with them in that case. EmmyMoomin said: There shouldn’t be. But anyway their peaceful plan didn’t work because of no fault of their own, so they hard to do it. There’s no justification for it, they just needed to. Unlike eren, they were pushed into a corner here. lmao, what, r u watching the show, bruh, eren also was pushed into a corner, he had a completely reasonable justification to every action he made, and spare me the genocide is wrong, no shit sherlock, if u cant see how the show gives perfectly solid argument to each side, perhaps stick to your harem shit and spare us Eren pushed himself into a corner. But he knows that, which is why he’s a great character. He knew that his actions would cause him to have no choice but to go with global genocide since he purposefully ruined chances of peacefully ending the conflict. Revenge is what he wanted, not peace, given he’d gladly kill people living in the walls to even summon the wall Titans proves that. If you think otherwise you’re completely missing the point of this masterful character arc. The alliance tried to avoid senseless killing. But they failed, and were forced to slaughter them. They also aren’t killing civilians. The jaegarists are soldiers. they know the risks, if they didn’t want to die they wouldn’t have chosen that job. It’s kinda backwards if you think they don’t deserve it but the billions of innocent civilians on the main land do. No one has a problem with eren using the rumbling to stop the main land countries governments and armies. It’s the innocent civilians that’s the problem with it. Also I don’t really see the point in bringing up harems. I don’t like harem anime that much. I’ll watch them on recommendation but I rarely enjoy them. Just seems like an excuse for your lack of a real counter argument. makes perfect sense given his personality and circumstances, he isnt a violent crazy murderer, we can dissect every decision and action he made and find a reasonable argument on why it was done,and rarely is it blind hatred or simple revenge, mikasa and eren were both driven to do what they did, eren took a more active role in his decision making, he created his path, while mikasa followed the hurd, but both did what had to be done |
Mar 22, 2022 10:49 AM
#102
XTente said: Alasco2002 said: Funny how you brought Eren as a way to justify Mikasa’s killing spree when the poster mentions ihow the Aot fandom does that.Also just because there are criminals going around and mass murdering people and having a kill count of 20 doesnt mean that the guy that only killed 1 will be justified.When Eren starts the rumbling and kills many innocent people: π When mikasa kills Yeagerist because she has to in order to stop a genocide: π‘ Lmao I’m not justifying anything I’m just showing how this fandom is full of hypocrites, they cheer for eren mass murder but when mikasa kills some ppl trying to kill her it is a whole problem |
Mar 22, 2022 10:58 AM
#103
theOG_hope said: There was no peaceful resolution for the conflict, thats the whole reasoning behind erens actions, he didn't want revenge, he wanted freedom and safety for his friends, he didnt do it for funsies, he concluded that it must be done and must be done by him, hes conclusion makes perfect sense given his personality and circumstances, he isnt a violent crazy murderer, we can dissect every decision and action he made and find a reasonable argument on why it was done,and rarely is it blind hatred or simple revenge, mikasa and eren were both driven to do what they did, eren took a more active role in his decision making, he created his path, while mikasa followed the hurd, but both did what had to be done EmmyMoomin said: There was no peaceful resolution for the conflict, thats the whole reasoning behind erens actions, he didn't want revenge, he wanted freedom and safety for his friends, he didnt do it for funsies, he concluded that it must be done and must be done by him, hes conclusion theOG_hope said: EmmyMoomin said: There shouldn’t be. But anyway their peaceful plan didn’t work because of no fault of their own, so they hard to do it. There’s no justification for it, they just needed to. Unlike eren, they were pushed into a corner here. lmao, what, r u watching the show, bruh, eren also was pushed into a corner, he had a completely reasonable justification to every action he made, and spare me the genocide is wrong, no shit sherlock, if u cant see how the show gives perfectly solid argument to each side, perhaps stick to your harem shit and spare us Eren pushed himself into a corner. But he knows that, which is why he’s a great character. He knew that his actions would cause him to have no choice but to go with global genocide since he purposefully ruined chances of peacefully ending the conflict. Revenge is what he wanted, not peace, given he’d gladly kill people living in the walls to even summon the wall Titans proves that. If you think otherwise you’re completely missing the point of this masterful character arc. The alliance tried to avoid senseless killing. But they failed, and were forced to slaughter them. They also aren’t killing civilians. The jaegarists are soldiers. they know the risks, if they didn’t want to die they wouldn’t have chosen that job. It’s kinda backwards if you think they don’t deserve it but the billions of innocent civilians on the main land do. No one has a problem with eren using the rumbling to stop the main land countries governments and armies. It’s the innocent civilians that’s the problem with it. Also I don’t really see the point in bringing up harems. I don’t like harem anime that much. I’ll watch them on recommendation but I rarely enjoy them. Just seems like an excuse for your lack of a real counter argument. makes perfect sense given his personality and circumstances, he isnt a violent crazy murderer, we can dissect every decision and action he made and find a reasonable argument on why it was done,and rarely is it blind hatred or simple revenge, mikasa and eren were both driven to do what they did, eren took a more active role in his decision making, he created his path, while mikasa followed the hurd, but both did what had to be done You ignored my point completely. Eren is doing it for revenge. If he didn’t he would go about this another way. His own bootlicker, floch, even thinks the rumbling wouldn’t actually solve anything. People will still fight and die, the only difference being that it would be considered infighting. Not to mention the jaegarists are just as corrupt as Marley is right now. The only change being made with the rumbling is that the eldians will now be oppressed by their own kind instead of an outside enemy. The jaegarists are authoritative. It’s like China. Or Russia. There’s no freedom there except for those at the top. Eren has no plans of stopping his own followers either. His freedom plan solves nothing. |
Mar 22, 2022 11:09 AM
#104
EmmyMoomin said: no, i didn't miss your point, i told u your point is wrong, lol, eren isnt doing it for revenge and i explained why, now on the topic of the flaws of his plan, theres plenty, the fact the yeagerist r violent nationalists, the fact the fight will continue between eldians, the fact the fight for the titans will continue, the fact that people wont suddenly become precious peaceful butterflies and stop killing each other, all of those r facts, armin actually pointed some of the flaws in erens extreme plan, but those facts have nothing to do with why eren is doing what he is doing, it was never about revenge for him, it was always about his idea of freedom even if his plan is doomed to cause nothing but more sufferingtheOG_hope said: There was no peaceful resolution for the conflict, thats the whole reasoning behind erens actions, he didn't want revenge, he wanted freedom and safety for his friends, he didnt do it for funsies, he concluded that it must be done and must be done by him, hes conclusion makes perfect sense given his personality and circumstances, he isnt a violent crazy murderer, we can dissect every decision and action he made and find a reasonable argument on why it was done,and rarely is it blind hatred or simple revenge, mikasa and eren were both driven to do what they did, eren took a more active role in his decision making, he created his path, while mikasa followed the hurd, but both did what had to be done EmmyMoomin said: theOG_hope said: I’m not saying genocide is wrong. Where’d you get that idea from? My favourite character in all of animanga commits genocide and I agree with them in that case. EmmyMoomin said: There shouldn’t be. But anyway their peaceful plan didn’t work because of no fault of their own, so they hard to do it. There’s no justification for it, they just needed to. Unlike eren, they were pushed into a corner here. lmao, what, r u watching the show, bruh, eren also was pushed into a corner, he had a completely reasonable justification to every action he made, and spare me the genocide is wrong, no shit sherlock, if u cant see how the show gives perfectly solid argument to each side, perhaps stick to your harem shit and spare us Eren pushed himself into a corner. But he knows that, which is why he’s a great character. He knew that his actions would cause him to have no choice but to go with global genocide since he purposefully ruined chances of peacefully ending the conflict. Revenge is what he wanted, not peace, given he’d gladly kill people living in the walls to even summon the wall Titans proves that. If you think otherwise you’re completely missing the point of this masterful character arc. The alliance tried to avoid senseless killing. But they failed, and were forced to slaughter them. They also aren’t killing civilians. The jaegarists are soldiers. they know the risks, if they didn’t want to die they wouldn’t have chosen that job. It’s kinda backwards if you think they don’t deserve it but the billions of innocent civilians on the main land do. No one has a problem with eren using the rumbling to stop the main land countries governments and armies. It’s the innocent civilians that’s the problem with it. Also I don’t really see the point in bringing up harems. I don’t like harem anime that much. I’ll watch them on recommendation but I rarely enjoy them. Just seems like an excuse for your lack of a real counter argument. makes perfect sense given his personality and circumstances, he isnt a violent crazy murderer, we can dissect every decision and action he made and find a reasonable argument on why it was done,and rarely is it blind hatred or simple revenge, mikasa and eren were both driven to do what they did, eren took a more active role in his decision making, he created his path, while mikasa followed the hurd, but both did what had to be done You ignored my point completely. Eren is doing it for revenge. If he didn’t he would go about this another way. His own bootlicker, floch, even thinks the rumbling wouldn’t actually solve anything. People will still fight and die, the only difference being that it would be considered infighting. Not to mention the jaegarists are just as corrupt as Marley is right now. The only change being made with the rumbling is that the eldians will now be oppressed by their own kind instead of an outside enemy. The jaegarists are authoritative. It’s like China. Or Russia. There’s no freedom there except for those at the top. Eren has no plans of stopping his own followers either. His freedom plan solves nothing. |
Mar 22, 2022 11:17 AM
#105
Spektral_Beast said: HyperL said: She's been kinda on edge since she is basically going against Eren at the moment. Oh my fucking god why is every other reply so retarded? These Mikasa stans will stop at nothing to prove her actions. Bitch, she's KILLING her own friends who she saved like 3-4 episodes ago. Did I ever say she was blameless? No, I just answered why she was being brutal, nothing more. |
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Mar 22, 2022 11:33 AM
#106
Alasco2002 said: Funny how the second phrase in the original post is: "____ did way worse, why aren't you criticizing them?" Never did the poster mention anything or tried to justify Eren’s behavior and his mass genocide,so you bringing Eren into this has nothing to do with what the op wanted to know. He was talking only about Mikasa’s kills and how they should be criticized without mentioning once that he supported Eren. All you should have said from the beginning was that the people were trying to kill her so she protected herself. And I got to agree the fandom is shit.XTente said: Alasco2002 said: When Eren starts the rumbling and kills many innocent people: π When mikasa kills Yeagerist because she has to in order to stop a genocide: π‘ Lmao I’m not justifying anything I’m just showing how this fandom is full of hypocrites, they cheer for eren mass murder but when mikasa kills some ppl trying to kill her it is a whole problem |
Mar 23, 2022 5:19 AM
#107
mk_tb said: KKpanda said: evoniee said: KKpanda said: nuclearfridge said: People who are complaining about why mikasa blew up 2 soilders is because they need to destroy thunder spears because someone other can Alasco2002 said: When Eren starts the rumbling and kills many innocent people: π When mikasa kills Yeagerist because she has to in order to stop a genocide: π‘ Eren followed his future he saw in the Paths, which he didn’t really have a choice about, and Mikasa just straight up killed her own countrymen in the most bloodthirsty way possible. She blew up two guys who were already bleeding out, and created a kebab out of two others. Literally just going for doom glory kills with no regrets. Use them...... they already dead dude, you decpitate and stab someone, mikasa just love to cosplay mortal kombat scene We saw some yeagerists alive when magath was approaching them(then we know Keith came and killed them)... In season 1 ep 13 we saw jean using ODM gear of a dead soldier.....So it has took place before... Ok so by your logic eren has every rite to kill everyone in the world because if they have a slight life left they will attack paradise, if we’re going by your kill everyone who might pose a threat logic here mk_tb said: KKpanda said: evoniee said: KKpanda said: nuclearfridge said: People who are complaining about why mikasa blew up 2 soilders is because they need to destroy thunder spears because someone other can Alasco2002 said: When Eren starts the rumbling and kills many innocent people: π When mikasa kills Yeagerist because she has to in order to stop a genocide: π‘ Eren followed his future he saw in the Paths, which he didn’t really have a choice about, and Mikasa just straight up killed her own countrymen in the most bloodthirsty way possible. She blew up two guys who were already bleeding out, and created a kebab out of two others. Literally just going for doom glory kills with no regrets. Use them...... they already dead dude, you decpitate and stab someone, mikasa just love to cosplay mortal kombat scene We saw some yeagerists alive when magath was approaching them(then we know Keith came and killed them)... In season 1 ep 13 we saw jean using ODM gear of a dead soldier.....So it has took place before... Ok so by your logic eren has every rite to kill everyone in the world because if they have a slight life left they will attack paradise, if we’re going by your kill everyone who might pose a threat logic here How sad titanfolk....Kids..... Just using an argument for their benefit ...... Ok I will explain Let's get to reality ...If countries or community when fight with each other .... soilders kill each other's side people ..... That's reality...So that's why Nobody complained that why Eren beat Porco so brutally...Same should happen in Miaksa case as well Because a war is going on and everyone is fighting each other so it is about killing or getting killed. Now about Eren... he is commiting genocide ....It's not War ...Innocents are getting killed ...You are using a single line for balancing war and genocide.....Which are vast concepts And also they didn't tried to kill at first ...They simply wanted to escape.... But that didn't happen... My logic is simple ..War is last resort....And genocide is wrong...But In war you have to kill...It doesn't matter who your opponent is ... (I know what is Week's true plan as I am manga reader.. and I am with him because he has no choice ....And he is doing right from his pov it is not right thing ...But it is what it is) |
KKpandaMar 23, 2022 5:22 AM
Mar 23, 2022 5:30 AM
#108
| she said it herself if she doesnt kill rn the rumbling wont stop shes choosing to kill 10 people compared to eren killing a billion |
Mar 23, 2022 5:42 AM
#109
KKpanda said: πππ i want to start by thanking you for proving every point i made in the past 3 days right, because in fact i am not a yeagerist at all i believe both sides are equally as wrong and that fanboys from each side are cringe, and since you’re an alliance fanboy (and a mikasa stan judging by your pp) of course the second someone criticized your hypocritical logic you got all defensive and lost your mind and immediately assumed that i am a yeagerist, because indeed fanboys like yourself can’t accept the fact that their side is wrongmk_tb said: KKpanda said: evoniee said: That's problem with AOT fandom... Speed readers .... They are dead but not everyone is dead ....if a yeagerists has slight of a life left .... They will shoot at flying boat...KKpanda said: nuclearfridge said: People who are complaining about why mikasa blew up 2 soilders is because they need to destroy thunder spears because someone other can Alasco2002 said: When Eren starts the rumbling and kills many innocent people: π When mikasa kills Yeagerist because she has to in order to stop a genocide: π‘ Eren followed his future he saw in the Paths, which he didn’t really have a choice about, and Mikasa just straight up killed her own countrymen in the most bloodthirsty way possible. She blew up two guys who were already bleeding out, and created a kebab out of two others. Literally just going for doom glory kills with no regrets. Use them...... they already dead dude, you decpitate and stab someone, mikasa just love to cosplay mortal kombat scene We saw some yeagerists alive when magath was approaching them(then we know Keith came and killed them)... In season 1 ep 13 we saw jean using ODM gear of a dead soldier.....So it has took place before... Ok so by your logic eren has every rite to kill everyone in the world because if they have a slight life left they will attack paradise, if we’re going by your kill everyone who might pose a threat logic here mk_tb said: KKpanda said: evoniee said: That's problem with AOT fandom... Speed readers .... They are dead but not everyone is dead ....if a yeagerists has slight of a life left .... They will shoot at flying boat...KKpanda said: nuclearfridge said: People who are complaining about why mikasa blew up 2 soilders is because they need to destroy thunder spears because someone other can Alasco2002 said: When Eren starts the rumbling and kills many innocent people: π When mikasa kills Yeagerist because she has to in order to stop a genocide: π‘ Eren followed his future he saw in the Paths, which he didn’t really have a choice about, and Mikasa just straight up killed her own countrymen in the most bloodthirsty way possible. She blew up two guys who were already bleeding out, and created a kebab out of two others. Literally just going for doom glory kills with no regrets. Use them...... they already dead dude, you decpitate and stab someone, mikasa just love to cosplay mortal kombat scene We saw some yeagerists alive when magath was approaching them(then we know Keith came and killed them)... In season 1 ep 13 we saw jean using ODM gear of a dead soldier.....So it has took place before... Ok so by your logic eren has every rite to kill everyone in the world because if they have a slight life left they will attack paradise, if we’re going by your kill everyone who might pose a threat logic here How sad titanfolk....Kids..... Just using an argument for their benefit ...... Ok I will explain Let's get to reality ...If countries or community when fight with each other .... soilders kill each other's side people ..... That's reality...So that's why Nobody complained that why Eren beat Porco so brutally...Same should happen in Miaksa case as well Because a war is going on and everyone is fighting each other so it is about killing or getting killed. Now about Eren... he is commiting genocide ....It's not War ...Innocents are getting killed ...You are using a single line for balancing war and genocide.....Which are vast concepts And also they didn't tried to kill at first ...They simply wanted to escape.... But that didn't happen... My logic is simple ..War is last resort....And genocide is wrong...But In war you have to kill...It doesn't matter who your opponent is ... (I know what is Week's true plan as I am manga reader.. and I am with him because he has no choice ....And he is doing right from his pov it is not right thing ...But it is what it is) |
mk_tbMar 23, 2022 6:08 AM
Mar 23, 2022 6:00 AM
#110
Squiyn said: Levi did way worse. Don't recall Levi ever basking in the blood after brutally murdering former comrades. |
Mar 23, 2022 6:12 AM
#111
mk_tb said: then prove me wrong..Saying fanboy is simple ...Prove me wrong if you canKKpanda said: πππ i want to start by thanking you for proving every point i made in the past 3 days right, because in fact i am not a yeagerist at all i believe both sides are equally as wrong and that fanboys from each side are cringe, and since you’re an alliance fanboy of course the second someone criticized your hypocritical logic you got all defensive and lost your mind and immediately assumed that i am a yeagerist, because indeed fanboys like yourself can’t accept the fact that their side is wrongmk_tb said: KKpanda said: evoniee said: That's problem with AOT fandom... Speed readers .... They are dead but not everyone is dead ....if a yeagerists has slight of a life left .... They will shoot at flying boat...KKpanda said: nuclearfridge said: People who are complaining about why mikasa blew up 2 soilders is because they need to destroy thunder spears because someone other can Alasco2002 said: When Eren starts the rumbling and kills many innocent people: π When mikasa kills Yeagerist because she has to in order to stop a genocide: π‘ Eren followed his future he saw in the Paths, which he didn’t really have a choice about, and Mikasa just straight up killed her own countrymen in the most bloodthirsty way possible. She blew up two guys who were already bleeding out, and created a kebab out of two others. Literally just going for doom glory kills with no regrets. Use them...... they already dead dude, you decpitate and stab someone, mikasa just love to cosplay mortal kombat scene We saw some yeagerists alive when magath was approaching them(then we know Keith came and killed them)... In season 1 ep 13 we saw jean using ODM gear of a dead soldier.....So it has took place before... Ok so by your logic eren has every rite to kill everyone in the world because if they have a slight life left they will attack paradise, if we’re going by your kill everyone who might pose a threat logic here mk_tb said: KKpanda said: evoniee said: That's problem with AOT fandom... Speed readers .... They are dead but not everyone is dead ....if a yeagerists has slight of a life left .... They will shoot at flying boat...KKpanda said: nuclearfridge said: People who are complaining about why mikasa blew up 2 soilders is because they need to destroy thunder spears because someone other can Alasco2002 said: When Eren starts the rumbling and kills many innocent people: π When mikasa kills Yeagerist because she has to in order to stop a genocide: π‘ Eren followed his future he saw in the Paths, which he didn’t really have a choice about, and Mikasa just straight up killed her own countrymen in the most bloodthirsty way possible. She blew up two guys who were already bleeding out, and created a kebab out of two others. Literally just going for doom glory kills with no regrets. Use them...... they already dead dude, you decpitate and stab someone, mikasa just love to cosplay mortal kombat scene We saw some yeagerists alive when magath was approaching them(then we know Keith came and killed them)... In season 1 ep 13 we saw jean using ODM gear of a dead soldier.....So it has took place before... Ok so by your logic eren has every rite to kill everyone in the world because if they have a slight life left they will attack paradise, if we’re going by your kill everyone who might pose a threat logic here How sad titanfolk....Kids..... Just using an argument for their benefit ...... Ok I will explain Let's get to reality ...If countries or community when fight with each other .... soilders kill each other's side people ..... That's reality...So that's why Nobody complained that why Eren beat Porco so brutally...Same should happen in Miaksa case as well Because a war is going on and everyone is fighting each other so it is about killing or getting killed. Now about Eren... he is commiting genocide ....It's not War ...Innocents are getting killed ...You are using a single line for balancing war and genocide.....Which are vast concepts And also they didn't tried to kill at first ...They simply wanted to escape.... But that didn't happen... My logic is simple ..War is last resort....And genocide is wrong...But In war you have to kill...It doesn't matter who your opponent is ... (I know what is Week's true plan as I am manga reader.. and I am with him because he has no choice ....And he is doing right from his pov it is not right thing ...But it is what it is) Your language is just of yeagerists....That's why I assumed ...my bad ...And I think you didn't realized that what I wrote In last line ok never mind....Try to get me I am Not saying yeagerists are villain ...both sides have something wrong and right in them...But the fact is Alliance is escaping the forest ....(forest which is said by Sasha father). ... yeagersits and Marleen govt. are trapped in forest .... And it's not their fault..In real world also, most of the people are trapped in forest...So alliance is in The highlight because....They are going with theme....To escape the forest...To not judge sides...To talk it through...To stop this endless slaughter They haven't skipped completely ...But they are trying ....Nobody is right or wrong...But show has theme.......That should be followed You must be feeling that I am just getting defensive ...But that's my true thought... |
Mar 23, 2022 6:24 AM
#112
KKpanda said: i’ll tell you what i think is wrong with the actions of the alliance and by alliance i mean the paradise part( armin mikasa and the rest) the warriors have every rite to act the way they did because they are trying to save their homes and families, the same cannot be said about armin and the rest because by their actions they are indeed dooming their entire race along the way i have no problem with them trying to stop eren but not the way their doing it right now, because they just teamed up with their killers went along with their plan, killed a lot more yeagerist than they need which will leave paradise totally defenseless because they just took down most of the military and to put the final nail in the coffin of the people in paradise they are going to stop eren with no backup plan whatsoever so the problem is not them trying to save the world, the problem is that as things stand they have absolutely 0 cares for millions of their own people, and i can now list everything wrong that eren did as well because again i’m not taking any sides heremk_tb said: then prove me wrong..Saying fanboy is simple ...Prove me wrong if you canKKpanda said: mk_tb said: KKpanda said: evoniee said: That's problem with AOT fandom... Speed readers .... They are dead but not everyone is dead ....if a yeagerists has slight of a life left .... They will shoot at flying boat...KKpanda said: nuclearfridge said: People who are complaining about why mikasa blew up 2 soilders is because they need to destroy thunder spears because someone other can Alasco2002 said: When Eren starts the rumbling and kills many innocent people: π When mikasa kills Yeagerist because she has to in order to stop a genocide: π‘ Eren followed his future he saw in the Paths, which he didn’t really have a choice about, and Mikasa just straight up killed her own countrymen in the most bloodthirsty way possible. She blew up two guys who were already bleeding out, and created a kebab out of two others. Literally just going for doom glory kills with no regrets. Use them...... they already dead dude, you decpitate and stab someone, mikasa just love to cosplay mortal kombat scene We saw some yeagerists alive when magath was approaching them(then we know Keith came and killed them)... In season 1 ep 13 we saw jean using ODM gear of a dead soldier.....So it has took place before... Ok so by your logic eren has every rite to kill everyone in the world because if they have a slight life left they will attack paradise, if we’re going by your kill everyone who might pose a threat logic here mk_tb said: KKpanda said: evoniee said: That's problem with AOT fandom... Speed readers .... They are dead but not everyone is dead ....if a yeagerists has slight of a life left .... They will shoot at flying boat...KKpanda said: nuclearfridge said: People who are complaining about why mikasa blew up 2 soilders is because they need to destroy thunder spears because someone other can Alasco2002 said: When Eren starts the rumbling and kills many innocent people: π When mikasa kills Yeagerist because she has to in order to stop a genocide: π‘ Eren followed his future he saw in the Paths, which he didn’t really have a choice about, and Mikasa just straight up killed her own countrymen in the most bloodthirsty way possible. She blew up two guys who were already bleeding out, and created a kebab out of two others. Literally just going for doom glory kills with no regrets. Use them...... they already dead dude, you decpitate and stab someone, mikasa just love to cosplay mortal kombat scene We saw some yeagerists alive when magath was approaching them(then we know Keith came and killed them)... In season 1 ep 13 we saw jean using ODM gear of a dead soldier.....So it has took place before... Ok so by your logic eren has every rite to kill everyone in the world because if they have a slight life left they will attack paradise, if we’re going by your kill everyone who might pose a threat logic here How sad titanfolk....Kids..... Just using an argument for their benefit ...... Ok I will explain Let's get to reality ...If countries or community when fight with each other .... soilders kill each other's side people ..... That's reality...So that's why Nobody complained that why Eren beat Porco so brutally...Same should happen in Miaksa case as well Because a war is going on and everyone is fighting each other so it is about killing or getting killed. Now about Eren... he is commiting genocide ....It's not War ...Innocents are getting killed ...You are using a single line for balancing war and genocide.....Which are vast concepts And also they didn't tried to kill at first ...They simply wanted to escape.... But that didn't happen... My logic is simple ..War is last resort....And genocide is wrong...But In war you have to kill...It doesn't matter who your opponent is ... (I know what is Week's true plan as I am manga reader.. and I am with him because he has no choice ....And he is doing right from his pov it is not right thing ...But it is what it is) Your language is just of yeagerists....That's why I assumed ...my bad ...And I think you didn't realized that what I wrote In last line ok never mind....Try to get me I am Not saying yeagerists are villain ...both sides have something wrong and right in them...But the fact is Alliance is escaping the forest ....(forest which is said by Sasha father). ... yeagersits and Marleen govt. are trapped in forest .... And it's not their fault..In real world also, most of the people are trapped in forest...So alliance is in The highlight because....They are going with theme....To escape the forest...To not judge sides...To talk it through...To stop this endless slaughter They haven't skipped completely ...But they are trying ....Nobody is right or wrong...But show has theme.......That should be followed You must be feeling that I am just getting defensive ...But that's my true thought... |
Mar 23, 2022 12:04 PM
#113
mk_tb said: It's good you are not taking sides...KKpanda said: i’ll tell you what i think is wrong with the actions of the alliance and by alliance i mean the paradise part( armin mikasa and the rest) the warriors have every rite to act the way they did because they are trying to save their homes and families, the same cannot be said about armin and the rest because by their actions they are indeed dooming their entire race along the way i have no problem with them trying to stop eren but not the way their doing it right now, because they just teamed up with their killers went along with their plan, killed a lot more yeagerist than they need which will leave paradise totally defenseless because they just took down most of the military and to put the final nail in the coffin of the people in paradise they are going to stop eren with no backup plan whatsoever so the problem is not them trying to save the world, the problem is that as things stand they have absolutely 0 cares for millions of their own people, and i can now list everything wrong that eren did as well because again i’m not taking any sides heremk_tb said: KKpanda said: πππ i want to start by thanking you for proving every point i made in the past 3 days right, because in fact i am not a yeagerist at all i believe both sides are equally as wrong and that fanboys from each side are cringe, and since you’re an alliance fanboy of course the second someone criticized your hypocritical logic you got all defensive and lost your mind and immediately assumed that i am a yeagerist, because indeed fanboys like yourself can’t accept the fact that their side is wrongmk_tb said: KKpanda said: evoniee said: That's problem with AOT fandom... Speed readers .... They are dead but not everyone is dead ....if a yeagerists has slight of a life left .... They will shoot at flying boat...KKpanda said: nuclearfridge said: People who are complaining about why mikasa blew up 2 soilders is because they need to destroy thunder spears because someone other can Alasco2002 said: When Eren starts the rumbling and kills many innocent people: π When mikasa kills Yeagerist because she has to in order to stop a genocide: π‘ Eren followed his future he saw in the Paths, which he didn’t really have a choice about, and Mikasa just straight up killed her own countrymen in the most bloodthirsty way possible. She blew up two guys who were already bleeding out, and created a kebab out of two others. Literally just going for doom glory kills with no regrets. Use them...... they already dead dude, you decpitate and stab someone, mikasa just love to cosplay mortal kombat scene We saw some yeagerists alive when magath was approaching them(then we know Keith came and killed them)... In season 1 ep 13 we saw jean using ODM gear of a dead soldier.....So it has took place before... Ok so by your logic eren has every rite to kill everyone in the world because if they have a slight life left they will attack paradise, if we’re going by your kill everyone who might pose a threat logic here mk_tb said: KKpanda said: evoniee said: That's problem with AOT fandom... Speed readers .... They are dead but not everyone is dead ....if a yeagerists has slight of a life left .... They will shoot at flying boat...KKpanda said: nuclearfridge said: People who are complaining about why mikasa blew up 2 soilders is because they need to destroy thunder spears because someone other can Alasco2002 said: When Eren starts the rumbling and kills many innocent people: π When mikasa kills Yeagerist because she has to in order to stop a genocide: π‘ Eren followed his future he saw in the Paths, which he didn’t really have a choice about, and Mikasa just straight up killed her own countrymen in the most bloodthirsty way possible. She blew up two guys who were already bleeding out, and created a kebab out of two others. Literally just going for doom glory kills with no regrets. Use them...... they already dead dude, you decpitate and stab someone, mikasa just love to cosplay mortal kombat scene We saw some yeagerists alive when magath was approaching them(then we know Keith came and killed them)... In season 1 ep 13 we saw jean using ODM gear of a dead soldier.....So it has took place before... Ok so by your logic eren has every rite to kill everyone in the world because if they have a slight life left they will attack paradise, if we’re going by your kill everyone who might pose a threat logic here How sad titanfolk....Kids..... Just using an argument for their benefit ...... Ok I will explain Let's get to reality ...If countries or community when fight with each other .... soilders kill each other's side people ..... That's reality...So that's why Nobody complained that why Eren beat Porco so brutally...Same should happen in Miaksa case as well Because a war is going on and everyone is fighting each other so it is about killing or getting killed. Now about Eren... he is commiting genocide ....It's not War ...Innocents are getting killed ...You are using a single line for balancing war and genocide.....Which are vast concepts And also they didn't tried to kill at first ...They simply wanted to escape.... But that didn't happen... My logic is simple ..War is last resort....And genocide is wrong...But In war you have to kill...It doesn't matter who your opponent is ... (I know what is Week's true plan as I am manga reader.. and I am with him because he has no choice ....And he is doing right from his pov it is not right thing ...But it is what it is) Your language is just of yeagerists....That's why I assumed ...my bad ...And I think you didn't realized that what I wrote In last line ok never mind....Try to get me I am Not saying yeagerists are villain ...both sides have something wrong and right in them...But the fact is Alliance is escaping the forest ....(forest which is said by Sasha father). ... yeagersits and Marleen govt. are trapped in forest .... And it's not their fault..In real world also, most of the people are trapped in forest...So alliance is in The highlight because....They are going with theme....To escape the forest...To not judge sides...To talk it through...To stop this endless slaughter They haven't skipped completely ...But they are trying ....Nobody is right or wrong...But show has theme.......That should be followed You must be feeling that I am just getting defensive ...But that's my true thought... I think I explained you what is alliance basically.... Now Lets come on paradise side I have seen alot of people ....who are saying that they will doom Paradise... You think they don't know about them....they have talked countless times about it....But..But....but.... That doesn't justify genocide.....And like hange said that "Most soilders died without knowing that there is outside world... they devoted their hearts ...and Only this island is all that matters to us....do you think any of them will be so selfish to say that...." "This is our last chance to stop this slaughter" And they just not want to kill Eren.....They want to stop him....because he is still their friends ......and they also know that killing Eren is not only choice..but if they fail to talk it through....then they hage to kill Eren ....because they just can't let that mistake repeat....another reason that Mikasa said "I don't want Eren to slaughter anymore life.....even if its for our sake ...." Armin said" That this is not right solution ....this is not gonna solve the problem of inheritance of nine titans... Jean said that"I would have run away but those ashes would have not forgiven me" Connie said" I want to become a good soilder....so lets help the people who are in need" Levi (Later in manga) said that " When you all devoted your heart was it to trample over hearts of other" "No it was an idealistic dream ,a world without titans" They all have their reasons ....they don't want paradise to be destroyed .....they will talk this through....as marco said "We haven't even talked about it "....they failed once , I agreed but nothing was wrong in their decision......And they will try again ........again and again (Manga spoilers below) The alliance don't know eren's plan of end of Titan powers ...so even if they stop eren they will have their Titans to protect the country...(wall Titans) and it will be just like 50 year plan If they had to kill Eren then also they will be heroes who saved the world ...People will want to listen...Them.... In the ending both alliance tactics and Eren plan , end of Titan powers all came together.... If you have any queries you can reply me and if you are manga reader then I will suggest you ig account @petraral.snk |
Mar 23, 2022 12:10 PM
#114
KKpanda said: nah man i’m an anime only and again just like i told you before i know that eren is 100% in the wrong just like the others, there are a lot of alternatives to killing the entire population of the world, anyway it was a nice good conversation and it’s nice that we understand each other nowmk_tb said: It's good you are not taking sides...KKpanda said: mk_tb said: then prove me wrong..Saying fanboy is simple ...Prove me wrong if you canKKpanda said: πππ i want to start by thanking you for proving every point i made in the past 3 days right, because in fact i am not a yeagerist at all i believe both sides are equally as wrong and that fanboys from each side are cringe, and since you’re an alliance fanboy of course the second someone criticized your hypocritical logic you got all defensive and lost your mind and immediately assumed that i am a yeagerist, because indeed fanboys like yourself can’t accept the fact that their side is wrongmk_tb said: KKpanda said: evoniee said: That's problem with AOT fandom... Speed readers .... They are dead but not everyone is dead ....if a yeagerists has slight of a life left .... They will shoot at flying boat...KKpanda said: nuclearfridge said: People who are complaining about why mikasa blew up 2 soilders is because they need to destroy thunder spears because someone other can Alasco2002 said: When Eren starts the rumbling and kills many innocent people: π When mikasa kills Yeagerist because she has to in order to stop a genocide: π‘ Eren followed his future he saw in the Paths, which he didn’t really have a choice about, and Mikasa just straight up killed her own countrymen in the most bloodthirsty way possible. She blew up two guys who were already bleeding out, and created a kebab out of two others. Literally just going for doom glory kills with no regrets. Use them...... they already dead dude, you decpitate and stab someone, mikasa just love to cosplay mortal kombat scene We saw some yeagerists alive when magath was approaching them(then we know Keith came and killed them)... In season 1 ep 13 we saw jean using ODM gear of a dead soldier.....So it has took place before... Ok so by your logic eren has every rite to kill everyone in the world because if they have a slight life left they will attack paradise, if we’re going by your kill everyone who might pose a threat logic here mk_tb said: KKpanda said: evoniee said: That's problem with AOT fandom... Speed readers .... They are dead but not everyone is dead ....if a yeagerists has slight of a life left .... They will shoot at flying boat...KKpanda said: nuclearfridge said: People who are complaining about why mikasa blew up 2 soilders is because they need to destroy thunder spears because someone other can Alasco2002 said: When Eren starts the rumbling and kills many innocent people: π When mikasa kills Yeagerist because she has to in order to stop a genocide: π‘ Eren followed his future he saw in the Paths, which he didn’t really have a choice about, and Mikasa just straight up killed her own countrymen in the most bloodthirsty way possible. She blew up two guys who were already bleeding out, and created a kebab out of two others. Literally just going for doom glory kills with no regrets. Use them...... they already dead dude, you decpitate and stab someone, mikasa just love to cosplay mortal kombat scene We saw some yeagerists alive when magath was approaching them(then we know Keith came and killed them)... In season 1 ep 13 we saw jean using ODM gear of a dead soldier.....So it has took place before... Ok so by your logic eren has every rite to kill everyone in the world because if they have a slight life left they will attack paradise, if we’re going by your kill everyone who might pose a threat logic here How sad titanfolk....Kids..... Just using an argument for their benefit ...... Ok I will explain Let's get to reality ...If countries or community when fight with each other .... soilders kill each other's side people ..... That's reality...So that's why Nobody complained that why Eren beat Porco so brutally...Same should happen in Miaksa case as well Because a war is going on and everyone is fighting each other so it is about killing or getting killed. Now about Eren... he is commiting genocide ....It's not War ...Innocents are getting killed ...You are using a single line for balancing war and genocide.....Which are vast concepts And also they didn't tried to kill at first ...They simply wanted to escape.... But that didn't happen... My logic is simple ..War is last resort....And genocide is wrong...But In war you have to kill...It doesn't matter who your opponent is ... (I know what is Week's true plan as I am manga reader.. and I am with him because he has no choice ....And he is doing right from his pov it is not right thing ...But it is what it is) Your language is just of yeagerists....That's why I assumed ...my bad ...And I think you didn't realized that what I wrote In last line ok never mind....Try to get me I am Not saying yeagerists are villain ...both sides have something wrong and right in them...But the fact is Alliance is escaping the forest ....(forest which is said by Sasha father). ... yeagersits and Marleen govt. are trapped in forest .... And it's not their fault..In real world also, most of the people are trapped in forest...So alliance is in The highlight because....They are going with theme....To escape the forest...To not judge sides...To talk it through...To stop this endless slaughter They haven't skipped completely ...But they are trying ....Nobody is right or wrong...But show has theme.......That should be followed You must be feeling that I am just getting defensive ...But that's my true thought... I think I explained you what is alliance basically.... Now Lets come on paradise side I have seen alot of people ....who are saying that they will doom Paradise... You think they don't know about them....they have talked countless times about it....But..But....but.... That doesn't justify genocide.....And like hange said that "Most soilders died without knowing that there is outside world... they devoted their hearts ...and Only this island is all that matters to us....do you think any of them will be so selfish to say that...." "This is our last chance to stop this slaughter" And they just not want to kill Eren.....They want to stop him....because he is still their friends ......and they also know that killing Eren is not only choice..but if they fail to talk it through....then they hage to kill Eren ....because they just can't let that mistake repeat....another reason that Mikasa said "I don't want Eren to slaughter anymore life.....even if its for our sake ...." Armin said" That this is not right solution ....this is not gonna solve the problem of inheritance of nine titans... Jean said that"I would have run away but those ashes would have not forgiven me" Connie said" I want to become a good soilder....so lets help the people who are in need" Levi (Later in manga) said that " When you all devoted your heart was it to trample over hearts of other" "No it was an idealistic dream ,a world without titans" They all have their reasons ....they don't want paradise to be destroyed .....they will talk this through....as marco said "We haven't even talked about it "....they failed once , I agreed but nothing was wrong in their decision......And they will try again ........again and again (Manga spoilers below) The alliance don't know eren's plan of end of Titan powers ...so even if they stop eren they will have their Titans to protect the country...(wall Titans) and it will be just like 50 year plan If they had to kill Eren then also they will be heroes who saved the world ...People will want to listen...Them.... In the ending both alliance tactics and Eren plan , end of Titan powers all came together.... If you have any queries you can reply me and if you are manga reader then I will suggest you ig account @petraral.snk |
Mar 23, 2022 3:50 PM
#115
SkyhighCFC said: Squiyn said: Levi did way worse. Don't recall Levi ever basking in the blood after brutally murdering former comrades. Why does basking in blood make the same action worse? Also I was responding as a joke to OP when they said "Don't say [character] did way worse." But I do genuinely want to know your response. |
Mar 23, 2022 4:10 PM
#116
Squiyn said: SkyhighCFC said: Squiyn said: Levi did way worse. Don't recall Levi ever basking in the blood after brutally murdering former comrades. Why does basking in blood make the same action worse? Also I was responding as a joke to OP when they said "Don't say [character] did way worse." But I do genuinely want to know your response. Well for me, it has to do with the fact that in the previous episode, they made this big deal about how they didn't want to kill their fellow islanders/former comrades. Even in this episode. But then they go on to depict her in that scene almost glorifying her brutal methods of killing them. The scene comes off like she doesn't actually care and makes her seem a lot more cold than she truly is at this point (the manga didn't depict her like that in this sequence...it was an anime only scene). That's why I didn't like it. Not because she killed them. I had no problem with that aspect. Levi when he kills, doesn't take glory in it. |
Mar 23, 2022 4:23 PM
#117
| Hm...looks like someone just didn't watch and/or paid attention to the Anime and/or the latest episodes, to me.... uh....rewatch, I guess. That'll help...I think. Maybe not. Is the problem them fighting each other or.....? Cause that's explained pretty well ,by the Show, I think. Including Mikasa (and the others) overcoming the feeling of having to go all out against former comrades. Maybe you have issues with Mikasa beeing strong/badass then?....Don't know....She pretty much is, since season 1... Moving on |
Merve2LoveMar 23, 2022 4:29 PM
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Mar 24, 2022 1:31 AM
#118
SkyhighCFC said: Squiyn said: SkyhighCFC said: Squiyn said: Levi did way worse. Don't recall Levi ever basking in the blood after brutally murdering former comrades. Why does basking in blood make the same action worse? Also I was responding as a joke to OP when they said "Don't say [character] did way worse." But I do genuinely want to know your response. Well for me, it has to do with the fact that in the previous episode, they made this big deal about how they didn't want to kill their fellow islanders/former comrades. Even in this episode. But then they go on to depict her in that scene almost glorifying her brutal methods of killing them. The scene comes off like she doesn't actually care and makes her seem a lot more cold than she truly is at this point (the manga didn't depict her like that in this sequence...it was an anime only scene). That's why I didn't like it. Not because she killed them. I had no problem with that aspect. Levi when he kills, doesn't take glory in it. Understandable, have a nice day. |
Mar 24, 2022 1:50 AM
#119
| There will never be justification. They are the same like the yeagerists but with a different goal |
Mar 24, 2022 4:38 AM
#120
| Were Mikasa's killings brutal? Yes. But, after all, killing is killing no matter the method. Plus, you could argue that Mikasa gave them a less painful death by decapitating and blowing some of yeagerists, rather than letting them bleed out |
_Edw_Mar 24, 2022 4:47 AM
Mar 25, 2022 12:43 AM
#121
| Great, but will we have a discussion like this, after ch131 gets adapted for ppl to justify eren's actions? |
Mar 25, 2022 1:31 AM
#122
| her only talent is killing, what did you expect? Floch should have talked with her before in order to convince her, he took her for granted because she was Eren's girlfriend, should've talked though. Now it's hard to stop her, being on the other side and all |
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Mar 25, 2022 5:31 PM
#123
| The story is shit. The characters are shit. They are there for fanservice and sakuga. Turn off your mind. |
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