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Aug 26, 2021 2:40 AM

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He's going to get fodderized by Shiki regardless so I don't see the point in building him up for anything.
Aug 26, 2021 3:49 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/246642322127716352/880399784043749376/1629972693351.jpg
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Aug 26, 2021 4:23 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/246642322127716352/880410422166036521/1629975681101.png
DAA pic
that ort chan
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Aug 26, 2021 4:49 AM

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>In regards to Nrvnqsr not being a thing anymore as of the remake; its likely because Jouji Nakata is retiring and TM wanted to honour him so they didn't want to recast Nrvnqsr's VA. Nrvnqsr is dead before the events of Tsuki remake according to Arcueid, but due to the Idea Blood, its heavily implied he has a "successor"

so no nero
but a successor thats prob relevant in sacchin or far route
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Aug 26, 2021 6:46 AM

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We full Fate now.
Aug 26, 2021 8:21 AM

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New Burial Agency Member

Boss Narvarek
1st Cardinal Noi Senatork Granpatema
2nd Andrea Godvivark
3rd Sister Kiara Kisshouin
4th Mr Dawn
5th Unknown (Probably Merem Solomon)
6th Agaleon
7th Ciel

Yeah, you got that right. She's here too.

Aug 26, 2021 8:48 AM

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-Sherou- said:
New Burial Agency Member

Boss Narvarek
1st Cardinal Noi Senatork Granpatema
2nd Andrea Godvivark
3rd Sister Kiara Kisshouin
4th Mr Dawn
5th Unknown (Probably Merem Solomon)
6th Agaleon
7th Ciel

Yeah, you got that right. She's here too.

lmao She's not even christian wtf
Aug 26, 2021 10:08 AM

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Full DA list

Mostly the same. Primate Murder might not be a DAA anymore. Nrvnqsr definitely still exists

Aug 26, 2021 10:20 AM

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Ciel CG overload:



And this is why Ciel is the coolest Tsukihime character, kids!
Aug 26, 2021 10:24 AM

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Also, considering the size of damage and destruction, yes, we Fate now.

AirConditioner said:
astroprogs said:


No. Noelle is a Genshin character.

Dammit.
Aug 26, 2021 10:27 AM

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astroprogs said:
Ciel CG overload:



And this is why Ciel is the coolest Tsukihime character, kids!


HNNNNNNNNG THOSE WEAPONS HNNNNNNNNG

Aug 26, 2021 10:37 AM

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Aug 26, 2021 10:38 AM

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Nrvnqsr is explicitly stated to be dead by Arcueid so he's not going to be appearing now or in the future, period. He has a ''successor'' because of how Idea Blood works so the power itself is probably going to be re-used. The idea was that they didn't want to replace Jouji Nakata as Nrvnqsr's VA since Jouji is retiring out of respect for him, which is a general Japanese thing. And Tsukihime Remake is deliberately written with sequels in mind (Nasu said as much in multiple recent interviews; its why DAAs have more importance in the Remake than the original, it's to create a delibarate continuity), so they can't have Jouji reprising his role for Nrvnqsr in the Remake or whatever importance he would have in the continuity so the best solution to that was to just replace him with a ''successor''.

Noel isn't a BA agent. She's sent to hunt down Roa alongside Ciel, but she's a normal (lol) executioner. Roa being a mid-boss is a 4chan shitpost that got posted a couple of hours after the game released, he's still the final boss of Arc route. Arc route follows the same structure as the original, it's just an expanded scenario but all the major scenes of the original play out in one way or the other. Ciel's route is the one that goes a lot more balls to the wall original, since her original route was 75% the same as Arcueid's, but it's still structurally similar and the major scenes of her route are, again, there in one way or another. Other than Arcueid going full Evangelion, of course.

Also the DAA list posted up there by Sherou is the old one. Vlov killed number 19 on that list and replaced him, for instance, so there's changes and stuff made on the list that isn't noted on the list they have in-game for whatever bizarre reason.
Aug 26, 2021 10:42 AM

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Shiki's theme (Video contains MAJOR spoiler CGs).

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Also
-Sherou- said:
3rd Sister Kiara Kisshouin


Yeah, you got that right. She's here too.

astroprogs said:
lmao She's not even christian wtf


It's deliberately Kiara KIsshouin as opposed to Kiara SEsshouin so it's either not the same Kiara and Nasu is being a deliberate shithead or it's just Tsukihime world's version of Kiara where she somehow ends up Christian.
Aug 26, 2021 10:47 AM

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Here's the entirety of the OST
https://mega.nz/folder/Dbw0FZoS#1ZeNvJOLtgNMN3nF4hVHUg

You can listen to it on Mega. There seem to be insert songs.
Aug 26, 2021 10:49 AM

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AirConditioner said:
It's deliberately Kiara KIsshouin as opposed to Kiara SEsshouin so it's either not the same Kiara and Nasu is being a deliberate shithead or it's just Tsukihime world's version of Kiara where she somehow ends up Christian.

> Nasu being a deliberate shithead
> just Tsukihime world's version of Kiara

Can I say "probably both"?

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Here's the entirety of the OST
https://mega.nz/folder/Dbw0FZoS#1ZeNvJOLtgNMN3nF4hVHUg

You can listen to it on Mega. There seem to be insert songs.

Noooooice. Thanks for the link my man.
Aug 26, 2021 10:59 AM

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How are the dead ends in the remake? Are they as numerous as the original?
Aug 26, 2021 11:03 AM

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ShinsoPriest said:
How are the dead ends in the remake? Are they as numerous as the original?


3 Main Endings (Arcuid True, Ciel Good, Ciel True) and 21 Bad Ends.
Aug 26, 2021 11:03 AM

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ShinsoPriest said:
How are the dead ends in the remake? Are they as numerous as the original?

Not sure about the bad ends, but regarding the full endings
Aug 26, 2021 11:09 AM

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>Jouji Nakata is retiring

Oh nooooo TT. The end of an era o7

>Shiki's theme (Video contains MAJOR spoiler CGs).

Ooh I quite like it. There are some progressions that sound like SAO tho. Is this supposed to be Kajiura?

>Ciel CG overload:
Woow these are cool. Is that bow.... the whole thing is the bow? Damn why so big.


>3 Main Endings
Wait only Arc and Ciel? Is this all people have played up to or are there no other routes? Also roughly how long is the gameplay for that?
The sun is a deadly laser
Aug 26, 2021 11:13 AM

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It was announced a while ago. The remake has been split into 2 (maybe more?) parts. The released part is only the Near Side routes; Arc and Ciel's.

No news on when the rest will be released.

>Is this supposed to be Kajiura?

All KATE, the OG composer for Tsukihime and F/SN.
Aug 26, 2021 11:14 AM

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Shiki's theme sounds very Castlevania and it really pleases me
Aug 26, 2021 11:14 AM

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astroprogs said:
I've heard Ciel's route no longer has a "Good End" in the way it was in the original.


Correct. Her ''Good Ending'' in the Remake is just the original's True Ending, sort of. Her ''True Ending'', on the other hand, is literally End of Evangelion and Nasu on shrooms. Unironic KINO though.

mira-pyon said:
Wait only Arc and Ciel?


This was known for months, but yes. This Part 1 of the Remake, which has only the Near Side routes (Arcueid and Ciel). Far Side to be released in the future.

Also roughly how long is the gameplay for that?


Roughly 60 hours long. So Remake's Near Side is longer than the OG Tsuki in it's entirety and almost the length of FSN.

For reference, FSN is 3.6MB of text. Tsuki Remake Near Side is 3.2MB of text. The full thing will be more than double the length of FSN.

Also currently unknown if Satsuki will have a route or not. Nasu said yes half a decade ago, but he changes his mind as often as he changes his underwear.
Aug 26, 2021 11:18 AM

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Tho ig this is nice. The loredump of all the routes amongst all this new FGO stuff would've been too much imo.

>It was announced a while ago
>This was known for months, but yes
Guys pls u don't have to rub it in, I wasn't paying attention-

>Roughly 60 hours long
Wah that's a chunky boy. For reference how does LB6 compare? It's like my only reference for JP text
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Aug 26, 2021 11:19 AM

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AirConditioner said:
Roughly 60 hours long. So Remake's Near Side is longer than the OG Tsuki in it's entirety and almost the length of FSN.

For reference, FSN is 3.6MB of text. Tsuki Remake Near Side is 3.2MB of text. The full thing will be more than double the length of FSN.



That glorious bastard.
Aug 26, 2021 11:21 AM

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This is the most important question.

Is
In the remake?
Aug 26, 2021 11:24 AM

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wasn't that in the far side
"I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says.
I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby".
"She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other."
Aug 26, 2021 11:25 AM

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ShinsoPriest said:
For reference how does LB6 compare? It's like my only reference for JP text


I forget the exact text size of LB6, but they're roughly the same, I believe, in being around FSN-size.

ShinsoPriest said:
This is the most important question.

Is
In the remake?


Yes.
Aug 26, 2021 11:29 AM

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Aure0lin said:
wasn't that in the far side

It's definitely in Arc and Ciel's routes.
Aug 26, 2021 11:33 AM
Aug 26, 2021 11:35 AM

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Shame, when I saw the imgur mosaic one I thought we were getting real raw naked booba.
Astro deffo seems to be having fun w/ the remake. Now to wait for his pp and sig to change to Ciel╰( ̄ω ̄o)
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Aug 26, 2021 11:37 AM

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Noice.

The original for comparison
Aug 26, 2021 11:40 AM

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About Roa

mira-pyon said:
Shame, when I saw the imgur mosaic one I thought we were getting real raw naked booba.
Astro deffo seems to be having fun w/ the remake. Now to wait for his pp and sig to change to Ciel╰( ̄ω ̄o)

It's like a year worth of snow days for me lol.

And yes, I planned on changing my sig to my OG favorite Tsukihime character.
Aug 26, 2021 11:45 AM

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astroprogs said:
About Roa


Aug 26, 2021 11:48 AM

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Btw

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astroprogs said:
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wasn't that in the far side

It's definitely in Arc and Ciel's routes.
thought it was kohaku's but i still havent progressed beyond the beginning of arc's route in the original vn lul
"I like young-girl sexual creations, Lolicon is just one hobby of my many hobbies," he says.
I ask what his wife, standing nearby, thinks of his "hobby".
"She probably thinks no problem," he replies. "Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other."
Aug 26, 2021 11:56 AM

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This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway. This hallway.



And we canonically now have the placement of the cuts Shiki made. It's a trivial thing but I like that they thought of including it.



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Btw

And it looks GLORIOUS!

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About Roa



Yup. People are really hyping this ending.
Aug 26, 2021 11:58 AM

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Understandably why. Nasu really went all out on Ciel's route, especially the True End.
Aug 26, 2021 12:07 PM

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Btw

Whoa.

Wait why
Aug 26, 2021 12:12 PM

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Can't wait for Hollow Moon to ruin this too.



She gets it back in the final fight of Ciel's True Ending, which is the finale of Near Side.
Aug 26, 2021 12:16 PM
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AirConditioner said:


She gets it back in the final fight of Ciel's True Ending, which is the finale of Near Side.

I mean what's the significance of it plot-wise outside of it being a nod to the original Arcueid design?

Does the length of it represent how much power she's using? lol
Aug 26, 2021 12:28 PM

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ShinsoPriest said:
Does the length of it represent how much power she's using? lol


Actually unironically yes.



Here's an assortment of CGs from the final fight.


And that's putting aside the part where they do the retarded move of



Aug 26, 2021 12:29 PM

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AirConditioner said:

Can't wait for Hollow Moon to ruin this too.

What happened with Hollow Moon other than them taking extremely long to retranslate the parts McJon already translated?

Aug 26, 2021 12:36 PM

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-Sherou- said:
What happened with Hollow Moon other than them taking extremely long to retranslate the parts McJon already translated?


Nothing in particular. They're just a handbook example of attention seekers.

The TL project started by the French guy was originally created with the intent to finalize Mahoyo TL after McJon decided to quit (due to assorted harassment from 4chantards and Twittertards shitting themselves over his ''imperfect'' translation quality) because the TM community's been suffering through constant discontinued/failed Mahoyo TL projects, but has since devolved back into them holding the translation hostage until they finish re-translating McJon's part, citing supposed ''poor TL quality'' as the excuse, because god forbid they have to share credit for Mahoyo's translation with McJon.

If you couple that with them rushing to magnanimously announce they were gonna translate Tsukihime Remake and port it over to PC day 1 of it's announcement back on NY, it raises some eyebrows. Especially when you consider Tsuki remake is considerably longer and they have no prior TL to work off on. If it's taking them years to finalize Mahoyo's TL, it should give you an idea on how long it'll take for Tsuki remake. I wouldn't be surprised if they asked the FGO Mod guy to discontinue his TL because they're gonna translate it for realzzz with good TL quality and port it over to PC, only to sit on the project for years on end.
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AirConditioner said:
ShinsoPriest said:
Does the length of it represent how much power she's using? lol


Actually unironically yes.



Here's an assortment of CGs from the final fight.

I'm fine with this. At least she'll have the objectively better design in the FGO collab.

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And that's putting aside the part where they do the retarded move of


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About Arc's new power level. Take this with a grain of salt for now.

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