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Mar 26, 2021 9:48 AM
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Antos_8 said:
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Wait, what do you think the reason was?

uh i have already stated the reason was fetish?



and thats y my friend, you dont read spoilers, without actually reading the story. just let it be now. You have already formed an opinion of the show, and considering you have read this spoiler, you must have read the others as well without actually seeing the journey that took place to get there.

its sad bro, real sad. anyways its not like you are gonna keep watching anyways, as the op of this thread said, maybe "filtering" was intentional.
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Mar 26, 2021 10:01 AM

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Antos_8 said:

uh i have already stated the reason was fetish?


I was a bit confused with "the reason that curse was used in the narrative" and "the reason the author choose to include that curse".

The "curse" actually serve as actual plot point several times during the story (and as weird as this might sound, not in a sexual way).

But yeah the reason the author want to include it in the first place might be fetish, maybe?

Also side note, rather than "ravaged by men", it more like she ravages them, the girl is just lustful in general.
Mar 26, 2021 10:09 AM
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rdturbo said:
Antos_8 said:

uh i have already stated the reason was fetish?



and thats y my friend, you dont read spoilers, without actually reading the story. just let it be now. You have already formed an opinion of the show, and considering you have read this spoiler, you must have read the others as well without actually seeing the journey that took place to get there.

its sad bro, real sad. anyways its not like you are gonna keep watching anyways, as the op of this thread said, maybe "filtering" was intentional.

I honestly impress with your ability to see this anything "deeper" than it actualy is , i asume you see the journey is actualy "wholesome" or "it represent whatever reallife condition" crap that you are able the squeeze out of that fetish
Maybe you are right, the author makes "filtering" so that he can attract only degenerage tha could appreciate his pretentious garbage
I was a fool to not see this "filt"
Mar 26, 2021 10:15 AM
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Altter said:
Antos_8 said:

uh i have already stated the reason was fetish?


I was a bit confused with "the reason that curse was used in the narrative" and "the reason the author choose to include that curse".

The "curse" actually serve as actual plot point several times during the story (and as weird as this might sound, not in a sexual way).

But yeah the reason the author want to include it in the first place might be fetish, maybe?

Also side note, rather than "ravaged by men", it more like she ravages them, the girl is just lustful in general.

huh, sound interesting, would rather wait for the h*ntai version tbh, at least it is honest
Mar 26, 2021 10:25 AM

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Somehow I feel happy that Wonderful Everyday didn’t get anime adaptation because that shit would literally break people beyong recognition compare to Mushoku Tensei. Especially the Looking-glass insect arc that shit break me, everytime I remembered it made me want to throw up and despise how much bully can drive people... One of the best philosophy mystery horror VN you’d ever find
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Honestly at this point, I have a strong feeling that the "haters" are indirectly promoting the show just by venting out bad the series is.

I am just going to take it as the author using a 200 IQ move and anticipated this would happen, so he purposely wrote the story and made the main character as ridiculous and controversial as possible.
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Mar 26, 2021 11:46 AM
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rdturbo said:
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Does he really? I heard from other that his pervertion is just tone down a bit and he has loli wife which does mean his preferent does not change, not only that he is also in poligamy relationship with 3 people. Me hearing about this just makes me disgust how much of reward the author give to the pedo. I really cannot comprehence the anount of justification you need to give in order to make me relate to a protagonist like this.


wtf no!!!

he does not have a loli wife. people who are saying that are just lying because they have even read the novels and only getting false second-hand information. as for the polygamy part, he doesn't set out to have polyamorous relationships. If you continue with the story, you will see as to what happens and why (...)
His perversion does return but only with people who consent to it and rather they force their perversions on Rudy themselves. (...)


Why the need to deny simple facts? In the anime the MC literally describes blue hair girl as a loli that looks like she hasn't grown pubic hair yet and explains that's his ideal type of woman and wants to marry her (episode 1 lol).

As expected from a lolicon fantasy, her character design includes not getting old and will look the same during the MC's lifeftime. Cool.

And for the rest of your post, yes, don't worry, we know Rudeus is never at fault *wink*. The excuse is always that he did what he did because the plot told him to.


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and thats y my friend, you dont read spoilers, without actually reading the story. just let it be now. You have already formed an opinion of the show, and considering you have read this spoiler, you must have read the others as well without actually seeing the journey that took place to get there.

its sad bro, real sad. anyways its not like you are gonna keep watching anyways, as the op of this thread said, maybe "filtering" was intentional.

I honestly impress with your ability to see this anything "deeper" than it actualy is, i asume you see the journey is actualy "wholesome" or "it represent whatever reallife condition" crap that you are able the squeeze out of that fetish
Maybe you are right, the author makes "filtering" so that he can attract only degenerage tha could appreciate his pretentious garbage
I was a fool to not see this "filt"


It's basically like THIS.
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Mar 26, 2021 7:47 PM

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skysurf said:

Why the need to deny simple facts? In the anime the MC literally describes blue hair girl as a loli that looks like she hasn't grown pubic hair yet and explains that's his ideal type of woman and wants to marry her (episode 1 lol).

As expected from a lolicon fantasy, her character design includes not getting old and will look the same during the MC's lifeftime. Cool.

I fail to see the problem in the MC having a loli wife.
Mar 26, 2021 7:57 PM
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I fail to see the problem in the MC having a loli wife.


Perhaps you can read the whole conversation in context so you can read the arguments of the person who brought up the issue.
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Mar 26, 2021 11:45 PM
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No not the author but and Studio and people behind it could definitely be the case because a lot of those scenes are unnecessary but still in their I’m looking at you barn scene but I digress I think you are right to a extent like maybe 40%(filtered) 60% (not filtered) though this is only a guess oh and the unnecessary scene are like most of them including the prince and when Rudy does anything to Eris and the Grooming but that is it everything else is either not worth mentioning or actually need such as say the Rudy not knowing Silphy is a girl for not worth it and say Phillips motive to have Rudy marry Eris for scocial standing
Mar 27, 2021 3:11 AM
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skysurf said:
thewiru said:
I fail to see the problem in the MC having a loli wife.


Perhaps you can read the whole conversation in context so you can read the arguments of the person who brought up the issue.

There is none from what i read.
Mar 28, 2021 5:31 AM

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Sometimes, just unabashedly making what you want is the ultimate pleb filter. Regardless of the author's intent, it seems to have worked. Though I strongly suspect a lot of these hate watchers are going to be watching the second cour lmao.

Point is, you won't get a lot of moralfagging tumblrites or tradcath zoomers acting like Mushoku Tensei fans, running around with their profiles decked in its imagery, infesting regular discussion with their cancer. You know, like BNHA, Persona (particularly 5), Jojo, etc. It's a blessing few popular works are afforded.
Mar 28, 2021 11:39 AM
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im not really sure about filtering,but one thing for sure the author know how to write a story that is not half assed,like literally most anime/manga/LN out there,like "oh the main character is PERVERT,BUT NOT REALLY,HE JUST A SELF PROCLAIMED PERVERT BUT ACTUALLY A COWARD VIRGIN for self insert" like no,mushoku is a story of degenerate pervert scum who is a result for being a shut in a long time.

"mental age of an adult" old age =/= maturity,specially when that person have real problem,then u got what rudeus is,a "definitely not a normal,functional,respectable and responsible adult that part of society" reincarnated in fantasy world like a game he played all the time,hes serious at going for "better life" but not whether he change to a better or atleast decent person we need to wait it for the series to finish first.

TLDR the author going for the story and the character he want and not HALF ASSED about it just for the sake of sjw(thank you japan for lack of this kind of ppl),which is exactly why u got what happened here with this same "group" that probably by same person too that keep saying "this is show for pedophile why u like it and not hate it like me REEEE 1/10 HOW DARE YOU!!" lol
Mar 29, 2021 5:50 AM
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thewiru said:
"Filtering" is a term use when a certain thing has a mechanism to make people gatekeep themselves, and is used a lot in media.
For instance, the "Bell Gargoyles" boss battle in Dark Souls I (Or "the Pursuer" boss battle in Dark Souls II) are considered "filters", as one will not easily defeat them without learning certain mechanics the game expects you to. The logic of "filtering" is that "If one surpasses the filter, he will be able to go through the whole things. If one is filtered, it would have dropped it one way or another".
"Filtering" tends to be the best for of gatekeeping, as in the end the ones that are not filtered will not notice there was a filter, and the ones that were would distance themselves from their own volition.
For instance, many tropes and types of humor found in anime wouldn't bother the average "weeb", they wouldn't even notice that "something is weird" unless someone pointed them that, while at the same time they could make an average "normie" uncomfortable.

Mushoku Tensei has it's on genius on touching on a theme pretty much no western series touches , which isn't what i'm going to talk about. What i want to focus is that: Perhaps it's "filter" was intentional.
What i like to say is that "The good part of something indie is that the author can write whatever he wants. The bad part of something indie is also that the author can write whatever he wants".
Perhaps it was intentional to present something that would create a minor discomfort in some viewers (Which would make the most sensitive to it outright drop the series) as a signal that the author intents to go deeper in that subject and prefers that whoever wants to drop it to do it now. Made in Abyss works in a similar principle.

I still find baffling that some people would consider themselves "critics" while being extremely unprofessional to the point of badmouthing the anime for presenting something that isn't really that bad, but i do not find faults in people deciding to drop the anime, in case the "filter" was intentional.

That being so, i wanna hear your opinion: Was that an "intentional filter" from the start or maybe I'm overthinking stuff?


What filter are you talking about? The enemy is great i just finished it in one setting, but i guess that proves your point, i didn't notice any filter. In fact, i have encountered most of the ideas in this anime in others. Overall, it's a great anime with great mixing of ideas!
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rdturbo said:
Antos_8 said:

Does he really? I heard from other that his pervertion is just tone down a bit and he has loli wife which does mean his preferent does not change, not only that he is also in poligamy relationship with 3 people. Me hearing about this just makes me disgust how much of reward the author give to the pedo. I really cannot comprehence the anount of justification you need to give in order to make me relate to a protagonist like this.


wtf no!!!

he does not have a loli wife. people who are saying that are just lying because they have even read the novels and only getting false second-hand information. as for the polygamy part, he doesn't set out to have polyamorous relationships. If you continue with the story, you will see as to what happens and why. And as for multiple wives, in this society, it is the norm for nobles to have 2 or 3 wives. Rather it is only one continent, from where Zenith comes, where monogamy is enforced.

Honestly, don't read spoilers especially from people who just look at wiki and come to their own conclusion as to how the story got there without actually reading the novels.

As for the perversion part, his perversion is already toned down compared to what you saw in early half of season 1. And very soon, maybe at the end of the next cour, or start of season 3, he will go through a whole depression arc where he cant even think about sex due to a mental trauma.

His perversion does return but only with people who consent to it and rather they force their perversions on Rudy themselves.

And I have read the story, so I know what I am writing

I commend your effort but I’m pretty sure he’s a troll. Part of the Anti Mushoku Association. He just cannot like the show and rudy which is fine. Also roxy has been stated to have the body of a middle schooler and she sits in his lap like one a lot. I think it’s safe to say she’s an old loli.
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wtf no!!!

he does not have a loli wife. people who are saying that are just lying because they have even read the novels and only getting false second-hand information. as for the polygamy part, he doesn't set out to have polyamorous relationships. If you continue with the story, you will see as to what happens and why. And as for multiple wives, in this society, it is the norm for nobles to have 2 or 3 wives. Rather it is only one continent, from where Zenith comes, where monogamy is enforced.

Honestly, don't read spoilers especially from people who just look at wiki and come to their own conclusion as to how the story got there without actually reading the novels.

As for the perversion part, his perversion is already toned down compared to what you saw in early half of season 1. And very soon, maybe at the end of the next cour, or start of season 3, he will go through a whole depression arc where he cant even think about sex due to a mental trauma.

His perversion does return but only with people who consent to it and rather they force their perversions on Rudy themselves.

And I have read the story, so I know what I am writing

I commend your effort but I’m pretty sure he’s a troll. Part of the Anti Mushoku Association. He just cannot like the show and rudy which is fine. Also roxy has been stated to have the body of a middle schooler and she sits in his lap like one a lot. I think it’s safe to say she’s an old loli.

Oh, so anyone who don't like the show is labeled a troll now?
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Antos_8 said:
StoneFreee said:

I commend your effort but I’m pretty sure he’s a troll. Part of the Anti Mushoku Association. He just cannot like the show and rudy which is fine. Also roxy has been stated to have the body of a middle schooler and she sits in his lap like one a lot. I think it’s safe to say she’s an old loli.

Oh, so anyone who don't like the show is labeled a troll now?
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If I understand correctly your premise is that the author uses common tropes found in Anime to gatekeep certain groups of people from enjoying the show?

If that's the case I'm gonna have to disagree with you there buddy.

There's no dogma that the show is trying pushing and nothing to imply there's any moral grandstanding. No matter how you slice it up it's simply a show trying to tell a convincing isekai story.

Also a newsflash; to be convincing is to be accurate.
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Why are the anti-Mushoku tensei people still commenting under Mushoku Tensei threads? The anime's been over for a week now. We get it, you don't like the show. Seriously, what's with the amount of butthurt idiots who's only read spoilers trying so hard to belittle people who enjoy the show? To all you anti-Mushoku Tensei-ers who have never even read the LN, yet have the gall to insult the readers for liking this piece of fiction, do better. Or, you know, log off of the computer and have some fresh air.
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