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Oct 27, 2009 2:47 PM
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I absolutely loved this extremely powerful episode.

Well, I guess I loved her bath scene first, it was so cute in her chibi form. What I adored most was the use most faded (probably not the correct term) colors when Yano and Yoshida confronted Sadako about their relationship. It kind of felt like the colors depended on either the situation or her mood to set the tone.

We also got to see more eye covering, which I found pleasant as well, sort of shot me in the heart when Sadako passed and ran away from Kazehaya.

Uuuuuu~
Sadako doesn't deserve such treatment, she's pure white. =[
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Oct 27, 2009 5:42 PM
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wow, if they continue like this in next ep, I will instantly drop this~ (it totally destroyed my good impression of the first 2 eps...)

well, nothing to say except sawako is extremely getting on my nerve this time around, but if she didnt I would have else fallen asleep i guess~ I truly hope in next ep we will get something different...

and again, the ed saved the day, somewhat...
Oct 27, 2009 6:38 PM
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wow, if they continue like this in next ep, I will instantly drop this~ (it totally destroyed my good impression of the first 2 eps...)

well, nothing to say except sawako is extremely getting on my nerve this time around, but if she didnt I would have else fallen asleep i guess~ I truly hope in next ep we will get something different...

and again, the ed saved the day, somewhat...
So what were you expecting from this anime?
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Oct 27, 2009 6:48 PM
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Sawako is happy and it shows in front of her family.

Full of rumors at school. Two of them are pissed, but not only don't believe but lol about Sawako starting the rumor.

Good things continues to happen to Sawako.

Really weird teacher for keeping Kazehaya. That weird teacher is afraid of Sawako.

The rumor expands...

Someone asked about the rumor, but she doesn't know and when she asked about Yano and Yoshida, who's also nearby and heard their conversation, she said they are not her friends, but both of the got taken away before listening to Sawako's explanation. She thinks that she haven't reached to the extend like both of them. She like them and wants to be friends like them. Yano is pissed.

They asked Sawako if she likes them. When she was trying to answer, Yano is disappointed before hearing the explanation.

Then she heard the rumor and saying bad things about Sawako. She is sad.

Even she didn't greet Kazehaya because the rumor includes Kazehaya.

Next day, Yano and Yoshida laughed at each other, but they began to suspect that she's the one who started the rumor.

Sawako apologized them for letting them sad.

Kazehaya saw Sawako crying during the class. Kazehaya asked for the reason.

Sawako begins to hide from three of them, but at the same time wants to be with them.

During Kimitodo, seiyuus of Sawako and Kazehaya appeared and commented. Namikawa-san even did Kimitodo's pose! There's a new seiyuu for next ep.
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Oct 27, 2009 6:49 PM
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vinesage said:
wow, if they continue like this in next ep, I will instantly drop this~ (it totally destroyed my good impression of the first 2 eps...)

well, nothing to say except sawako is extremely getting on my nerve this time around, but if she didnt I would have else fallen asleep i guess~ I truly hope in next ep we will get something different...

and again, the ed saved the day, somewhat...


Be patient. The anime has this kind of story. Full of up and down emotions.
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Oct 27, 2009 8:16 PM
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I am very sad for Sawako. I would try to help her if I could. The rumors are very unfair and disgusting. Sawako cannot defend herself due to her shyness and past isolation and I understand that. The comedy was good with those guys and Pin-san and when Sawako's father dropped the tea cup because he heard love. Powerful emotions around when Yano and Yoshida ate lunch with Sawako and Sawako made some notes for Yoshida. I still do not understand why, why, why would Sawako deny Yano and Yoshida being her friends after all that happened? Oh why? I have to go for farming being sad for Sawako. I would not let her down even if she pushed me off.
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I feel like crying now T_T. Looking forward to the next episode!

The unfairness is worth crying for. Being someone that I am deeply attached to I cannot express how much of a wish I have to help Sawako at the time that sad music at the end was playing.
tsubasalover said:
Sawako is happy and it shows in front of her family.

Yeah that was a nice part.
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Full of rumors at school. Two of them are pissed, but not only don't believe but lol about Sawako starting the rumor.

There is no way Sawako would do something like that and I did not believe she could. I curse Ume for that.
tsubasalover said:
Good things continues to happen to Sawako.

Yeah like Yano and Yoshida eating with her at lunch time. That was great.
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Really weird teacher for keeping Kazehaya. That weird teacher is afraid of Sawako.

Pin-san knows something about Kazehaya but is he like that with him is still weird like you say.
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The rumor expands...

Oh no that is terrible for Sawako.
tsubasalover said:
Someone asked about the rumor, but she doesn't know and when she asked about Yano and Yoshida, who's also nearby and heard their conversation, she said they are not her friends, but both of the got taken away before listening to Sawako's explanation. She thinks that she haven't reached to the extend like both of them. She like them and wants to be friends like them. Yano is pissed.

I wonder why would Pin do something like that suddenly out of nowhere even as a good excuse he might have.
tsubasalover said:
They asked Sawako if she likes them. When she was trying to answer, Yano is disappointed before hearing the explanation.

I was very disapointed too about her answer to Shino of not being friends with them.
tsubasalover said:
Then she heard the rumor and saying bad things about Sawako. She is sad.

Yeah very sad it was for me too.
tsubasalover said:
Even she didn't greet Kazehaya because the rumor includes Kazehaya.

That was really not right. Sawako should have more confidence somehow.
tsubasalover said:
Next day, Yano and Yoshida laughed at each other, but they began to suspect that she's the one who started the rumor.

They also had some heavy eyes for not getting enough sleep as I saw in their face.
tsubasalover said:
Sawako apologized them for letting them sad.

That was a good gesture but not sure if they understood it properly. I though maybe they took it more as it was her own fault for starting the rumors.
tsubasalover said:
Kazehaya saw Sawako crying during the class. Kazehaya asked for the reason.

I really did not like her crying in the middle of the class like that. It was very depressing
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Sawako begins to hide from three of them, but at the same time wants to be with them.

I think Sawako should talk about her honest feelings. I would also ask Yano and Yoshida to beat up Ume or teach her a lesson if only it was known that she did all that somehow. I am sure she is the culprit.
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Oct 27, 2009 10:44 PM
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I feel like crying now T_T. Looking forward to the next episode!
Oct 27, 2009 11:31 PM
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Sawako's sense of self worth is so amazing low that it almost tanks the show because it is borderline ridiculous, even for someone who was shunned like her. I like this show and it is one of the ones i look forward to watching every week, but it would be nice if Sawako became a more realistic character.
Oct 28, 2009 12:00 AM
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Finally, some much needed drama.
Oct 28, 2009 12:36 AM
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wow this was really well done. you really feel bad for Sadwako ;______;

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Sawako's sense of self worth is so amazing low that it almost tanks the show because it is borderline ridiculous, even for someone who was shunned like her. I like this show and it is one of the ones i look forward to watching every week, but it would be nice if Sawako became a more realistic character.
i agree but I think the anime made her seem a lot more self worthless than she originally was in the manga because they leave some details out.
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Oct 28, 2009 1:24 AM

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i was dead certain Yoshida and Yano would just stop hanging out with Sawako without asking for explanations. but the way it played out is much more powerful and dramatic, not to mention frustrating as hell! i really like how the comedic duo were given more of a personality than just sidekicks.
i actually wanted to cry when Sawako heard she was ruining it for those around her and decided to avoid them for their own good.

*sigh* just finished this epi and i'm already waiting like crazy for the next...hasn't happened since Lovely Complex. Good shojos are soooo hard to find.
Oct 28, 2009 1:34 AM

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another cliff hanger at the end... Good ep.
Oct 28, 2009 2:11 AM

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Fuck this shit, I...I can't hold on any longer! I'm going to read the manga. I wanted to just watch the anime since I'm too lazy to go read the manga, plus I love hearing Mamiko, but I need to know what happens next. I can't wait another week! The...wait... it's....painful!
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Sawako! We're all your friends dammit! T_T

After this anime is finished airing I gotta find something to restore my masculinity.
Oct 28, 2009 2:15 AM

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very deep emotions..
i just noticed,why are they wearing different uniforms? Their school's have different uniform to choose from? Omg..so nice!
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Falatorx said:
Sawako's sense of self worth is so amazing low that it almost tanks the show because it is borderline ridiculous, even for someone who was shunned like her. I like this show and it is one of the ones i look forward to watching every week, but it would be nice if Sawako became a more realistic character.

I think Sawako is a very realistic character actually. I know someone exactly like her back in high school who simply has less than 5% the self-confidence an average teenager should have, who always blames herself, who is extremely and frustratingly sensitive yet warmly considerate about her surroundings. For a person who had been shunned all her life to step out of her shell is a hard thing and when she does, every step is heavy and every step means thinking about what others think about her. So I don't think Sawako's characterization is ridiculous at all. When I deal with such a person, I do think it's annoying but sad at the same time.
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Oh my god, this episode made me so sad. I just felt SO bad for Sawako and was yelling at my monitor, "It's a misunderstanding, dammit!!!" But I know this had to happen. I just want it to be resolved already. :(
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Lepchin17 said:

After this anime is finished airing I gotta find something to restore my masculinity.


Same here, dammit.
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gahhhhhh how am I supposed to wait a full week for the next episode!!



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After this anime is finished airing I gotta find something to restore my masculinity.



Same here also :/

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Nameless_Hero said:
Fuck this shit, I...I can't hold on any longer! I'm going to read the manga. I wanted to just watch the anime since I'm too lazy to go read the manga, plus I love hearing Mamiko, but I need to know what happens next. I can't wait another week! The...wait... it's....painful!
Ouw..too much to handle? this is just the beginning XD
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Hehehe, 'i want to see his forehead again!'

Arggh, another week to wait again. I know the next episode is going to be ridiculously good though.
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I'm sure the next episode would bring me to tears. The manga made me cry, so why not the anime?

I love the great portrayal of emotions of the seiyuus. They're faithful to the manga huh?

Sawako is so caring and understanding to her friends. I love it.
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Does anyone know how long this series is? It kinda seems rushed with the drama already. I am hoping for more than 13 episodes.
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I hate rumors damn! Even in the real life.

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Another awesome episode that makes shake your emotions. Sawako doesn't know how to express herself, she was always being isolated even up since she was a kid and her surroundings didn't help at all, and due to this, she pushed herself away from Yoshida and Yano so she wouldn't hurt them, it's the most innocent choice to do, I don't see how some people in this topic doesn't understand that. She obviously care about them both, but she doesn't know what to do in order to let her feelings speak for itself to say that she likes them both.

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Fuck this shit, I...I can't hold on any longer! I'm going to read the manga. I wanted to just watch the anime since I'm too lazy to go read the manga, plus I love hearing Mamiko, but I need to know what happens next. I can't wait another week! The...wait... it's....painful!


...Lmfao, sadly I did read this arc 3 days ago, I just couldn't hold myself any longer as well.

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Does anyone know how long this series is? It kinda seems rushed with the drama already. I am hoping for more than 13 episodes.


I have a feeling that it's going to be 12 episodes.
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Nitre said:
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Does anyone know how long this series is? It kinda seems rushed with the drama already. I am hoping for more than 13 episodes.


I have a feeling that it's going to be 12 episodes.

That's a shame it could be a great 24+ series.
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It was sad for sure, but I actually found myself more frustrated than sad. I spent the first half of the episode smiling like an idiot (as per the other episodes), and the second half wanting to rip my hair out and yelling "NO!" at the screen. I was really hoping it would be resolved by the end of the episode, but now I'll have to wait till next week ;_;
Oct 28, 2009 9:29 AM

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First half was really funny, but in the second Sawako reverts to her old personality, which to me is a little annoying (Zero-Self-Esteem). Seriously Sawako, grow a pair!
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Hehehe, 'i want to see his forehead again!'

Could someone please explain this, didn't get this one. ;p
Couldn't find it in the manga either..
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desolato said:
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Hehehe, 'i want to see his forehead again!'

Could someone please explain this, didn't get this one. ;p
Couldn't find it in the manga either..
It's the scene when Kazehaya came late to the class..Sawako accidentally saw Kazehaya's forehead because his hair is messed up..
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desolato said:
Nitre said:
Hehehe, 'i want to see his forehead again!'

Could someone please explain this, didn't get this one. ;p
Couldn't find it in the manga either..


It's definately in the manga. I remember having the same "wtf?!" moment when reading the manga as i did watching this ep. What is with the forehead thing? Don't get why she was so obsessed with it lol.

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I am SO glad I am not the only one who noticed the HUGE change in her self worth from the manga. Shes seems.... More doubtful of herself than she was in the manga and its bothering me A LOT.

The next episode has the best scenes in it, but that also means its closer to Kurumi coming it for good.

This is getting intense, I love it!
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Nameless_Hero said:
Fuck this shit, I...I can't hold on any longer! I'm going to read the manga. I wanted to just watch the anime since I'm too lazy to go read the manga, plus I love hearing Mamiko, but I need to know what happens next. I can't wait another week! The...wait... it's....painful!


i feel the exact same way. i think i'm gonna pick up reading the manga because i love this so much and the cliffhangers are relentless! gah!

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this anime makes me smile and then feel so down:) but this ep was so sad of course. when i was reading manga i was like yoshida crying and saying dont misunderstand thins sadakoo T_T
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man I feel so sorry for her, this anime really makes you wanna marathon the manga.
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Poor Sadako!!!! She's too sweet for this crap!!!
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i feel the exact same way. i think i'm gonna pick up reading the manga because i love this so much and the cliffhangers are relentless! gah!


I'm pretty much set on buying the manga once the series is finished.
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the many faces of the characters in this anime are just too rich hehe. especially her face.
Oct 28, 2009 12:26 PM

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Poor Sawako, she doesn't deserve that in any way TT_TT It's not your fault, Sawako!

But Yano & Yoshida were awesome in this ep. And Kazehaya ofc too =3
I really liked the coloring and the music, just beautiful <3


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Aww poor sawako :(
It's all a big misunderstanding, but none of them seem to realise...
Aren't rumour spreading teenage girls the worst?
It's so cute how she puts everyone before herself, all of the time. And thinks so highly of everyone

and this scene


made me aww :)
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This whole misunderstanding episode annoys me to no end. In fact, it is all Yano and Yoshida's fault they didn't hear what Sawako had to say in the first place. Anyway, I still love them all and I hope we skip this to a better stage in the plot.

Also, I can't stop drooling over the backgrounds and tones in this anime. Production I.G. takes my breath every week with this. It's amazing really.
Oct 28, 2009 1:46 PM

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This episode almost made me cry.
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loved this ep., specially the mini-people running around the saucer LOL, and poor sawako getting blamed for all this #@$% that she didn't do and ends up "losing" her friends but hopefully everything will be resolved in the next ep.
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Even though I totally disagree with the decision to add uneeded drama (in this way), the execution of this episode was a whole lot better than I expected. Sawako was given very solid reasons for all of her thoughts, and the other two did as well. No one's mad at each other, they're just all hurt, and too uncomfortable to say anything directly. That's high school.

I'm hoping that the show isn't so contrived in the future, even if it is well executed. I'd like for this show be more different than that. I think that will be the difference between the show getting a 7 and an 8 or 9 from me.

Still liked the episode though.
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Lepchin17 said:

After this anime is finished airing I gotta find something to restore my masculinity.


Same here, dammit.


Allow me to recommend either TTGL or Needless for that :)

Anyways so far I'm liking this show, but it seems to be a shitload more misunderstandings than one would think possible, if you ask what she thinks then atleast wait til she finishes dammit!! With that said I look forward to seeing what will happen next.
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Wow, so many misunderstandings. God damn cliffhangers <_<

I felt like I wanted to cry but I didn't lol, but an amazing ep still.
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What a depressing atmosphere >: Can't wait for episode 5
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Aww poor sawako :(
It's all a big misunderstanding, but none of them seem to realise...
Aren't rumour spreading teenage girls the worst?
It's so cute how she puts everyone before herself, all of the time. And thinks so highly of everyone

and this scene

I agree completely and I would rather die than hate a girl like Sawako. Love you till death if ever find one like you Sawako in real life. *Maybe going to Japan might be a way*

made me aww :)

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Oh my.

This was a very powerful episode, and one that is definitely incredibly sobering compared to the last three. I am honestly so impressed with this series that I can barely put it into words.

It's such a delicate, sweet approach to a type of series that could easily end up being boring and cliche. Sawako is undeniably kind and sweet, but her self-worth is so low that I actually feel like I'm back in high school, being made fun of and disliked for stupid reasons.

It was nice to see Yano and Yoshida gain some more depth. I really, really love them, seperately and as a pair. Kazehaya is just charming and so perfect, and there should be more people like him in the world. X3

I cannot wait for a new episode.

Actually, I feel like a total nooblet, but I think I am going to start the manga tonight. X3
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