Kiana_Kaslana said: it tends to happen like that around here....at least that's how i remeber it.AbuHumaid said: We got salty at each other, then tunneled and scumread each other for ridiculous reasons. Both of us were town. lol. did nobody else on the town help out to solve the issue? |
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AbuHumaid said: RE did, but at the end she gave up, and took Phraze's side. RIP. I have had a firsthand experience of how stubborn phraze can be, i'll leave it at that. rest assured if a similar event happens, i will take the side of the one who i feel is right and fair. so, if you are not in the wrong, i will have your back. |
AbuHumaid said: Kiana_Kaslana said: Thanks, let's try to not let that happen though.RIP. I have had a firsthand experience of how stubborn phraze can be, i'll leave it at that. rest assured if a similar event happens, i will take the side of the one who i feel is right and fair. so, if you are not in the wrong, i will have your back. what are your other reads on the other playeres atm? can you give a summary? |
| Anyone who talks about signaling the lost bunny from this point onward is insta scum. STOP |
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Mishukax said: Vote: logic340 Nothing extremely serious just yet but I have a few things to say about logic and I want to start with a vote to tie things up Those things are...? |
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AbuHumaid said: You seem too wolfy to be wolf, so a slight town read for now scum!yurkin gets nervous easily, and I think she handled you pressure calmly, so a lean town for now town lean on logic, because he felt the same way I felt about you, your first posts were really scummy, if you're town, it would be a lil hard for a scum to notice that, because they already know who the scum are. Mishu feels town, but this is mostly gut feeling, you said that one of his posts feels town, why is that? Phraze is my only scum lean the rest are null. i take offense to being called 'too wolfy to be a wolf', but i cant complain about a townread ./shrug |
LucianRoy said: Anyone who talks about signaling the lost bunny from this point onward is insta scum. STOP whats your thoughts about it? instead of issuing an ultimatum |
| Wtf did I miss Why are you all so afraid of the lost bunny and signaling Phraze is literally and blatantly open wolfing |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
| I kinda want to base my game around wisp rn. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
Kiana_Kaslana said: LucianRoy said: Anyone who talks about signaling the lost bunny from this point onward is insta scum. STOP whats your thoughts about it? instead of issuing an ultimatum ... |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| townreads: wisp lucianroy mishu townlean but need to be careful: abu yurkin scumreads: phraze logic |
i cant read your mind you know |
| Just woke up, gotta leave for class, will be back later, maybe? |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
_Wisp said: Just woke up, gotta leave for class, will be back later, maybe? is your vote already on phraze bro? put it on so we can get info while yo'ure at class |
LucianRoy said: idk about Kiana, I would have to reread the engage more thoroughly, yurkin is still town, her tone throughout the back and fourth was towny@_Wisp I know you have a read on Kiana vs. Yurkin, and I want to see if it's the same as mine. |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
| vote: Phraze |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
| you guys are using meta to read yurkin, right? i dont have that same privilege as you guys you know |
_Wisp said: LucianRoy said: idk about Kiana, I would have to reread the engage more thoroughly, yurkin is still town, her tone throughout the back and fourth was towny@_Wisp I know you have a read on Kiana vs. Yurkin, and I want to see if it's the same as mine. I'm leaning towards TvT. Given, my one scum game with Kiana was when she was v/la, and they were definitely twtbaw in that setting, but it doesn't sound similar here. |
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Mishukax said: @yurkin Okay, gonna try enlarging the picture here. Who are you voting for if not for me? You seem to like the idea of a Kiana-Mishu scumteam I like this post a lot. Good follow up from 384 |
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| Unvote |
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| Actually, I don't like that post as much as I thought I liked that post. |
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| i'll be frank with you, mishu's avatar is add townpoints |
logic340 said: After catching up yurkin looks more town for her interactions with kiana and mishu I'm still not liking Kiana but does mafia focus so much on the lost Bunny this early in the game? Mishu I'm leaving in neutral until i can take a closer look when i reread the thread. I really want to see a followup from this. |
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| whats your read on abuhumaid and phraze pls |
yurkin said: I was asking how a nightkill would affect the lostI'm half asleep and for some reason thought conversion can happen through lynch, opening says dead and that's misleading @Phraze what was your issue with the mechanic again? |
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AbuHumaid said: that one was petty from ur end, u refused to explain ur stance to me and insisted my asking an explanation was scummy.@Phraze by the way, if you're town please don't lose your temper on me, let's not turn this into another petty back and forth between me and you like in previous games. AbuHumaid said: Phraze said: 1. why do u think ppl don't read through rvs? rvs is usually the stage town looks into more than not. mafia are usually the ones to try to skip rvs, when the 'guard is down' so they don't have to make mistakes. preemptive moves in rvs isn't likely, as u are suggesting. 2. I said something. I built a train. u said I did nothing? 🤔 1. Oh trust me, people ignore early game a lot, I've seen it countless times before. Just because you backread RVS, doesn't mean everyone does. 2. I mean building a train is nothing honestly, any mafia could have pulled that off like I said. And what did you do after building that train? Nothing, you didn't pressure logic, you didn't question me why I voted logic, etc. progression on your vote is what counts 1. so u see otherwise. we'll agree to disagree then. I've shown u proof how others, not just me, view rvs. 2. if scum can do that too, then it is NAI. I also do not see why I should pressure someone over an rvs vote. |
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Kiana_Kaslana said: yurkin said: The lost wolf is technically uninformed tpr/town until mafia make them aware about themselves, and use other means to further it. How do you hunt them on D1 explain this. Look at the lost wolf wincon They win with the mafia It doesn’t matter if they’re converted or not, they’re mafia team even tho they win with mafia, they act as a buffer to the nightkill. they're just problematic lynch fodder. |
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this. tho they aren't town in wincon, they're town in setup until shot. |
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Kiana_Kaslana said: why would u vote a lost suspect over scum suspect, then?yurkin said: So which one between Abu/phraze is more likely Abu is scum and phraze is lost wolf imo. I think your posts recently are more confusing than anything so I’m not sure if you’re scum anymore or just a weird townie :/ Putting you back in the sort pile |
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| I wish wisp stuck around to explain his perspective on Phraze, but that train looks mighty juicy. Kiana's in the mix too, and she's willing to push this to test their theory of phraze being lost bunny despite their Abu scumread, so this train only gets more interesting. Kiana_Kaslana said: whats your read on abuhumaid and phraze pls I thought Phraze town!pinged me earlier, but I'd be willing to take town!Abu over town!phraze here any day of the week. Plus phraze hasn't really been scumhunting from the looks of it, so that could be indicative, and they brushed off Abu's early sus on them as paranoia, and that only emboldened Abu to push. Abu's town pinged me several times early game, with his interactions with me, Phraze, and Kii notably. I still like his play so far. That said, I feel like with the way he's playing right now I wouldn't feel bad about applying the "is he dead yet" tell on him later, but that's preemptive. |
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Kiana_Kaslana said: AbuHumaid said: RE did, but at the end she gave up, and took Phraze's side. RIP. I have had a firsthand experience of how stubborn phraze can be, i'll leave it at that. rest assured if a similar event happens, i will take the side of the one who i feel is right and fair. so, if you are not in the wrong, i will have your back. correction. RE could see Abu's tunneling on me as something he would do as scum. the problem was in Abu's insistence that my questioning was unnecessary and scummy, which I never understood. |
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Vote: Phraze Ok, that's better. |
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_Wisp said: why do u think so? looks to me that my curiosity of the neutral led to everyone looking for reasons to suspect it. and yeah, why is everyone so afraid of the lost bunny and signaling? hence why I askedWtf did I miss Why are you all so afraid of the lost bunny and signaling Phraze is literally and blatantly open wolfing |
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| I'll just let the gamestate speak for itself @LucianRoy and, I'm still on rvs vote. questions towards me are also about my rvs. no point to scumhunt if I'm stuck explaining my rvs and question about the neutral. |
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Phraze said: I have an idea!Kiana_Kaslana said: RIP. I have had a firsthand experience of how stubborn phraze can be, i'll leave it at that. rest assured if a similar event happens, i will take the side of the one who i feel is right and fair. so, if you are not in the wrong, i will have your back. correction. RE could see Abu's tunneling on me as something he would do as scum. the problem was in Abu's insistence that my questioning was unnecessary and scummy, which I never understood. @AbuHumaid don't u think questioning my rvs is unnecessary? looks scummy. /s |
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Phraze said: I'll just let the gamestate speak for itself @LucianRoy and, I'm still on rvs vote. questions towards me are also about my rvs. no point to scumhunt if I'm stuck explaining my rvs and question about the neutral. So basically you're saying you're still stuck in rvs? How do you expect people to read you town if you don't progress your reads and change your vote? I think just about every current poster is past it. |
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Phraze said: Kiana_Kaslana said: why would u vote a lost suspect over scum suspect, then?Abu is scum and phraze is lost wolf imo. I think your posts recently are more confusing than anything so I’m not sure if you’re scum anymore or just a weird townie :/ Putting you back in the sort pile ehh.. this seems like a good reason to suspect Kiana. tho Kiana is a strange player so goes either way. noted |
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Phraze said: Abu is not scum here try something else.Phraze said: I have an idea!correction. RE could see Abu's tunneling on me as something he would do as scum. the problem was in Abu's insistence that my questioning was unnecessary and scummy, which I never understood. @AbuHumaid don't u think questioning my rvs is unnecessary? looks scummy. /s |
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LucianRoy said: basically. if ppl wanna help, they could defocus on the rvs topic, or overthinking my question.Phraze said: I'll just let the gamestate speak for itself @LucianRoy and, I'm still on rvs vote. questions towards me are also about my rvs. no point to scumhunt if I'm stuck explaining my rvs and question about the neutral. So basically you're saying you're still stuck in rvs? How do you expect people to read you town if you don't progress your reads and change your vote? I think just about every current poster is past it. as I'm the one who knows my standing (that it was rvs and a general question), reads from anyone who's overthinking it would be inaccurate or lead to wrong reads. topics atm seem centered around that. I could ask questions otherwise, but that may not be responded to or bring up the issue again. it's best to resolve this now. |
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logic340 said: Phraze said: Abu is not scum here try something else.I have an idea! @AbuHumaid don't u think questioning my rvs is unnecessary? looks scummy. /s it was sarcasm. but a real question, why overthink my rvs when u wanted the same before |
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| @lucianroy Phraze isn't looking for scum, she's looking for reasons to call someone scum, stuff that sticks, which is apparent in #493 Also, I'm more inclined to believe that yurkin/Kiana are in fact v/v Also @abuhumaid This is trivial, but Kiana was the first person to suggest Phraze being the lost wolf... And again I don't understand why we are afraid of suggesting this... Worst case mafia NK town that looks wolfy, which isn't even that bad, but it moves the nk away from obvious town, or no one dies, and then we can play around with what may or not have happened during the night |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
| correction: I only suspect Kiana's inconsistency when proposing to lynch a 'neutral' over 'scum'. tho that is also a reason. |
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Phraze said: no, because I don't see it as a neutral, I see it as potential scum, that both the town and wolves are looking for, we want to Lynch them and mafia want to NK them. If we get them out now, we don't have to worry about them ever being in the equation in the case of no nk@_Wisp u also agree that Kiana suggested I could be the neutral. from a town pov, wouldn't such a suggestion be susp? u still haven't explained why I could be 'openly wolfing' |
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